Nobody had anything else to do. There was no Netflix back then

@@enigma9971 exactly

It was another level then. Way beyond and deadly!

in modern terms he wins an easy 12 round decision here

@@grawakendream8980 True He Was Pretty Beating Willard Up For The 12 Rounds

Even better by Willard

@@brileyvandyke5792 Sure. My favorite Willard performance is against Jack Dempey. He showed he could take a nice proper beating.

maybe he shouldn’t have done that

@@grawakendream8980 nah he was a warrior he did what he wanted to do

@@blixkyjr.254 how do you rate willard, in your opinion

Taking a beating like Dempsey did to him so many years ago I'm not surprised old Willard did that.

Liar. Not you, him.

Willard was no where near as skilled as Johnson, but he was huge and in shape, something Johnson obviously wasn't. You can tell by the way Jonson moves in the later rounds that he was gassed out. He just didn't have the will to train after his years in exile.

Plus, it's obvious that Willard had studied Johnson's style. Notice how their movements are almost mirror images of each other. There was no way Johnson could win given his lifestyle and age, as others have pointed out. Had he saved his money, he could have just retired and lived abroad to a ripe old age. But then I'm just dreaming lol

+Dicedude I agree. Johnson should have changed tactics when he saw how ineffective his style worked against Willard. He should have worked the angles like Dempsey did a couple months later.

the only thing that happened is that Johnson had a poor technique, but better than none, which was what most fighters had back in the day. That's why he defeated Jeffries, but couldn't handle Willard. And of course, when he lost he came up with all sorts of excuses. And he was still arrested by the Mann Act case five years later when he came back to the States.

+Solomon O'Neill So? Maybe he was fighting tomato cans.

@@JoshDone some where some weren't not all were good not all bad.

Not sure what you're talking about.

Being able to move in and out of punching range seems to require quick and intricate foot movement and is probably what separates the better boxers from the rest of the pack. Johnson and Willard both seem to do this rather well, which is probably why the fight lasted 26 rounds.

Jack was 4 years older than Jess, 4 years! If Jack was passed his prime so was Jess. Jess also boxed as a hobby, he was a farmer full time, and started much later than Jack. They were pretty much the same age. What puzzles me is if Jack was such a great fighter where were the skills? For the first time in his career, he fought a big man and got his ass whipped. It was not close, Jack could not man handle Jess like he did the smaller men. And if you see at the end of round 16, Jess patted Jack on the shoulder, some felt he was letting Jack know there was no way to with. Jess had a brilliant strategy and followed it to the end. And with 1 punch ended the fight. Knocked cold, by the man who like Jack was out of his prime, hell, he never had a prime,LMAO Jack just did not have the skills............. The ref was probably being kind. Jess had won at least half of the rounds. He defended Jacks wild punches just by putting his arms up. There are no facts to support your comment.

The Willard who fought Dempsey- wasn't the same Willard who fought Johnson. Willard only defended the title once in the 4 years that he held it. He mostly fought exhibitions. He was overconfident against Dempsey- who was much smaller. You can see the difference in his conditioning when he fought Dempsey. He was soft around the middle. Compare him to his condition in this fight.

Jack didn’t train for the fight.

@@vgr112261 how utterly stupid

Dempsey hands were wrapped in bicycle tape which hardened when wet. In no other fight did Dempsey come close to inflicting the kind of damage that he unleashed on Willard. Willard was incredibly brave to keep fighting after that first round.

@@stuartperry1047 Spot on.

Give JJ credit for trying for 25 rounds but he could not outpunch Willard's reach and stamina. While Jeffries' crouch forward style was custom made for JJ's uppercut, Willard leaned back and used his reach to keep JJ off of him. Willard's style in this fight actually was very similar to JJ's.

Hey Bro, Jack was 4 years older than Jess. they were almost the same age. Jess boxed as a hobby; Jack was a full-time boxer. Jess was the first big man Jack fought. Jack was overrated. When a basic amateur can beat a world champ, that champ is really lacking. Jack was unskilled and mostly fought smaller men. And he never gave a Black fighter a title shot after winning the title. Jess flat out kicked his ass. Jack hit Jess with everything and could not hurt him, Jack tried to manhandle Jess and could not. Jess was considered mediocre at best. If Jack was so great a fighter, he should have easily won.

Do some homework. Jack was 4 years older than Jess. That is pretty much the same age. It was the first time Jack fought a big man. I think round 16 Jess patted Jack on the shoulder when the round ended. Jack could not man handle Jess. And when he tried, Jess just grabbed hold of him and stopped Jack in his tacks. And with 1 shot the over rated JJ hit the deck for good.

Jess should have defended against him

@@devilface97 Jack was 4 years older than Jess, 4 years! If Jack was passed his prime so was Jess. Jess also boxed as a hobby, he was a farmer full time, and started much later than Jack. They were pretty much the same age. What puzzles me is if Jack was such a great fighter where were the skills? For the first time in his career, he fought a big man and got his ass whipped. It was not close, Jack could not man handle Jess like he did the smaller men. And if you see at the end of round 16, Jess patted Jack on the shoulder, some felt he was letting Jack know there was no way to with. Jess had a brilliant strategy and followed it to the end. And with 1 punch ended the fight. Knocked cold, by the man who like Jack was out of his prime, hell, he never had a prime,LMAO Jack just did not have the skills.............

@@hdvictoryford5329 jack had been fighting for a decade and a half longer than jess and boxed long after. Had some 70 fights before he fought jess, you're being dishonest and you know it trying to pretend jack was in his prime. Mcvey was Willard's age why didnt he defend against him instead of moran? Quit moving the goalposts find some new material in your johnson hate campaign we been through this already.

Correct on Willard pushing Johnson, Big George Foreman utilized the same with Joe Frazier. Pushed him back and kept Joe's hook out of range, but in range for George's bombs.

Why would he be shocked when he already fought men such as sam mcvey prior to holding the belt? Men willard never had to go through first.

@@devilface97 in terms of size Sam McVey and Jess Willard are worlds apart. McVey was 5'10"/11" at around 200 lbs whereas Willard was 6'6" at around 270 lbs. At the time Willard fought Johnson I can't see how McVey would have faired any better.

@@Freddie1980 mcvey was closer to 215lbs in his prime and brute strength was his best assets. Willard was 245lbs in his prime. They were closer in strength especially considering willards extra weight was never muscle mass especially when he got fat for Dempsey. He also refused to fight mcvey.

Spot on. Styles make fights and Johnson could not figure out Willard's defense.

I counted it with my stop watch and it was a full 10 seconds so shut the fuck up you idiot.

They could have counted to 100 and it wouldn't have mattered. You can make up any story you want, the film still ends the same way. In this day and age, I'm not sure why it would, but if it butt hurts you that a white man beat beat a black man, then don't look at any Marciano fights.

Johnson put that line out until the film surfaced then he shut up because he was found out to be a lying sore loser.

@@rapier1954 he was threatened with a lawsuit for lying saying he threw the fight, and then he changed his mind and told the truth. johnson was a dirty dishonest fighter. johnson knew that the fight was on film, but for some stupid reason the film was not allowed to be shown in the USA for years.

Nah, he got beat, you can see that. He lost. Obvious excuse, nothing more. Johnson, lost 11, drew 11, and 3 no contest. He also lost early, in 1901, to Joe Choynski, who knocked him out in round 3.

No Doubt those white people was on him he had to throw it he had to give it back to them you had no choice to have any type of normalcy in his life do you have to let them have the fight you had to throw it

@@blackamore1826 No mate he lost, all I hear is excuses

....... I don't think so ... that was the flat footed era of boxing this is why bouts were 25 and more rounds ..... Dempsey came along with more foot work and lateral movement hence Willard was hurt very badly ... watch kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNxze86Q0LHUhn0.html have a good day

@@thomasjones7115 bruh dempsey and klitschko dont fight alike ...yall gotta stop viewing boxign thru modern lens and thinking its technology and not a trade!

He was the biggest heavyweight in history for a long time. You figure JJ was a shade over 6' tall and look how much bigger Willard was. I know many people still believe JJ threw this fight but look at the punch he took from Willard right in the jaw. 6'5" and 245pounds? Even if he wasn't the best boxer around he was very strong.

No Jack intentionally lost the fight, because he wanted to lose because he threw the fight because he bet for him to lose he took a drive

@@silenceassassin5565 If he was going to throw the fight, he'd have done it long before round 26 on such a hot day.

+scan Maybe "out of shape" was a poor description, but the Jack Johnson of 1915 doesn't look nearly as lean or sharp as he was in 1908 when he beat Tommy Burns or in 1910 when he beat James Jeffries. Age caught up with Johnson in this fight. Willard wasn't a great fighter but he didn't have to be. Stamina was the key to his victory here.

It was planned period. The white govt. Would reduce his sentence to only 1 year. Jack made sure to kick Jess Willard's ass before taking a dive. Please to say he was better than jack on true merit is a joke. In addition, he did not even train for that fight.

That is nonsense. Willard won fair and square. But Johnson fought well until then. He was getting tired, Willard spotted an opportunity and took it. In pure skill Johnson was the better fighter. Willard had youth and size going for him. In his prime Johnson was obviously better. But this fight was legit and the result was fair.

@@panama8009 Always the white boogeyman, right? Sometimes a guy loses because a 6'5" 250 lb man hits him in the head, regardless of color.

@@panama8009 You again? Psssh.

fuck

Happy huWhite Man jj beat fitzimmons Langford mvvey and jennete all atg and Hof.

@Happy Man bro that is horseshit and you know it

@@WisdomTooth1987 Actually the win over Langford was controversial and Johnson ducked him forever after.

@@WisdomTooth1987 Bob was 44 Langford controversial Neither Mcvea or Jennette were even close to their prime.

Johnson's technique was used by later champions

Yes- it was. You can also see him at ringside in some of the shots. Good eye.

He was in his corner during this fight! They sparred the previous day!

Yes it was, and he was a bada$$ fighter himself.

Could have counted to 100. Johnson was through.

why the man always deserves credit for their losses? To did Day!!

Jack was 4 years older than Jess, 4 years! If Jack was passed his prime so was Jess. Jess also boxed as a hobby, he was a farmer full time, and started much later than Jack. They were pretty much the same age. What puzzles me is if Jack was such a great fighter where were the skills? For the first time in his career, he fought a big man and got his ass whipped. It was not close, Jack could not man handle Jess like he did the smaller men. And if you see at the end of round 16, Jess patted Jack on the shoulder, some felt he was letting Jack know there was no way to with. Jess had a brilliant strategy and followed it to the end. And with 1 punch ended the fight. Knocked cold, by the man who like Jack was out of his prime, hell, he never had a prime,LMAO Jack just did not have the skills.............

Team Pour It Up Jack Johnson ended up surrendering to US federal authorities and did a year in jail. When he got out of jail he fought sporadically until the age of 50. Johnson died in a car crash in 1946. Jess Willard made one successful title defense then got a terrible beating from Jack Dempsey. Willard had a long life and died at the age of 87 in 1968.

Team Pour It Up you know about the documentary Unforgivable blackness?

Wisdom Tooth Yes, I watched it on PBS when it was first made by Ken Burns. I have it on DVD.

remember he was arrested soon there after in mexico and challenged Jack Dempsey for the title but Jack drew the color line.

Jack Dempsey refused to fight him. Don’t tell me that that matchup wouldn’t have sold tickets. Johnson was as deserving of a shot at Dempsey’s title as some of the other fighters who were given a chance. That would have been so epic.

Dah!

I would like to know too, it's a crime.

+Rasta Thug - It's not because of improved training methods or experience, knowledge and technique passed down through generations but because Boxing has changed immeasurably as a sport in the last 150 years. A high guard and combination punches do not work in bareknuckle fights or even early gloved matches. The high guard doesn't adequately protect the face in bareknuckle and repeated combination punches aren't possible in bareknuckle either because you'd break your hands. The guard in bareknuckle (left hand stretched outward if orthodox) was designed to parry and block diagonal punches because guarding close to the face doesn't work. However, diagonal punches in current ring boxing are useless and that's why the straight punch allied with combinations is what all fighters in ringed boxing use. What you're watching here is the transition from bareknuckle to conventional gloved boxing. At this point, fighters wore 4oz gloves so couldn't combination punch to the degree that they do now without hurting their hands and the 4oz gloves also wouldn't offer an adequate guard like a 10oz-12oz does. Place any champion from today, fighting in early 1900 or even up to 1915 rules or earlier bareknuckle and they'd be totally ill-equipped. The same is likewise. Boxing was a fundamentally different sport to what it is now.

Evander Holyfield once stated that if videotape had existed when Joe Louis was champion that there was no way he could have recorded 25 successful title defenses. Max Schmeling had access to films of Louis’ earlier fights and noticed that he dropped his left hand after a jab and used this knowledge to repeatedly nail Louis with hard right hands. Nowadays modern fighters can study all the fighters from the past on KZfaq which gives them a tremendous advantage, making comparisons between fighters of different eras essentially meaningless, as it would not be a level playing field.

"Lucky" shot after wearing the smaller man down for 25 rounds. Gotcha.

He didn't deserve another title shot and honestly would've been destroyed by Dempsey an schooled by Tunney. He clearly was demolished by Willard so yeah he was never getting that title back.

Johnson was admired by many, he had a great defensive style and his physique in his prime was phenomenal, look at films of when he fought Burns. He looked like he could play linebacker for the Steelers. But, Johnson was typically not good offensively until he wore his opponents down, or manhandled them. Big Jess was having none of that. He pushed around Johnson and tied him up, nobody did that to Johnson before. Probably broke Johnson's spirit after about round 20. Then, that big straight right......

Jack was 4 years older than Jess, 4 years! If Jack was passed his prime so was Jess. Jess also boxed as a hobby, he was a farmer full time, and started much later than Jack. They were pretty much the same age. What puzzles me is if Jack was such a great fighter where were the skills? For the first time in his career, he fought a big man and got his ass whipped. It was not close, Jack could not man handle Jess like he did the smaller men. And if you see at the end of round 16, Jess patted Jack on the shoulder, some felt he was letting Jack know there was no way to with. Jess had a brilliant strategy and followed it to the end. And with 1 punch ended the fight. Knocked cold, by the man who like Jack was out of his prime, hell, he never had a prime,LMAO Jack just did not have the skills.............

There was not much difference in age between the two fighters less than 3 years. Willard was losing on points but wore Johnson down with brutal body shots.

That fight was ridiculous

wheelinthesky300 Jack Dempsey should have gone to jail for what he did to Willard. In no other fight did Dempsey inflict anything close to the damage that he inflicted on Willard. Jimmy DeForest claimed to have used a special kind of bicycle tape on Dempsey’s hands that hardened when saturated with sweat. When dry the tape did not appear suspect, so Willard, even though he personally inspected Dempsey’s hands being wrapped, had no reason to be suspicious. The damage to Willard was horrendous, far greater than any of Dempsey’s other opponents suffered.

Willard was a great boxer what are you on about? He only had 5 losses that is less than Johnson when he KOed him. Everyone underestimated Dempsey, he's famous for a reason he crated a new style an technic of boxing, hence why it's named after him. I mean have you never heard of the Dempsey roll? It's fundamental in boxing training now for throwing power into hooks. Just look at Mike Tyson he styled himself off Dempsey, if you need a modern look at the style. It's quite devastating.

Wrong, JD used loaded gloves to beat Jess. He cheated to get the title.

He wasn't tired of being champ.

He want old nor fat, he wasn't even 40 yet. I mean seriously George Foreman proves the age myth wrong.

@@tylerrobbins8311 Damn straight foreman was 45 when he took the heavy weight title back

@@tylerrobbins8311 "The Age myth" lol

Must've made sense, otherwise u wouldn't have gotten all riled up about it! Just face it, white men can fight also!

If age doesn't matter then Sugar Ray Leonard should be able to get in the ring and become a champion again. You're logic is flawed. When people reach their mid to late 30's their reflexes slow down as their brains are not the same as they once were. On top of that, if they take too many punches in their career the brain damage they accumulate weakens their skills. Roy Jones Jr. for example doesn't have the reflexes he once had. He isn't fast enough and can't react fast enough to fight at a high level. Many fighters say that they can see the punches coming, but can't get out of the way of them.

Two cherry picked examples don't mean you're correct. Actual statistics show that age is a big factor in boxing.

@@nickleback3695 And how do you explain the legendary Joe Louis or Jersey Joe Walcott? How about Wladamir and Vitali Klitschko? Or what of Pulev, Povetkin, and Valuev? Parker or Chizora? Ortiz? I can keep going for examples of old boxers still boxing or who were still at the top in their late 30s going into 40s.

@@tylerrobbins8311 Joe Louis was far from his best at 37.

There comes a time when the boxing authorities won't let fighters dodge fights.

David... My theory? Jack was dead broke. Remember, he was a fugitive. Europe treated him as badly as the USA. Then WWI broke out. Jack was screwed.

@@rapier1954, Dodge fights? What part of shortening a 45 round fight is “dodging” the fight?

Johnson's fight against Jeffries was also 45 rounds.

Era variavel .A luta em questão estava prevista para 45 rounds .

If .. if... If... Jess woulda kicked Jack's ass regardless.

@@TheBatugan77 lol you're mad?

@@DominiqueWilliams-ue3rx No he's right, if there were less rounds Jess wouldn't need to pace himself and could easily throw more power in his punches. He was jabbing his body the whole fight to gas him.

Not to mention that a lot of those fighters had regular jobs as they could not sustain themselves financially just by fighting. This was true even in the 1960’s. Joe Frazier once defended his title against a bagel salesman who went to deliver bagels to stores after getting knocked out in the first round.

Sam Ting.

Heywood J'Blowmi

Johnson would get destroyed by most boxers today, first off he is average to small by modern size, being 6'2 and 215lb that is more a cruiser weight. Second Tyson Fury would completely destroy just about every previous champion. There are a few who would be good fights, but most wouldn't stand a chance. Fury is arguably the most skilled heavyweight champion of all time as well as the largest. At 6'9 and 270lb he is already several weight classes larger than even most heavyweights from the 80s let alone the early 1900s. You really think Johnson would be able to win against modern boxers like Joshua, Wilder, Pulev, Ruiz and Uysk? Don't be foolish.

@@tylerrobbins8311 you no they say Jim jones was the greatest running back of all times because he broke the 2000 yd rushing records etc only in 8 games not 16 games he was only a 4.7, 4.6 sprinter they asked could he do that in today's time period with the defense as fast as they are today etc..the respones was if he had the same 🏋 training and diet and supplmemt these guys take then it would be the same he will be the greatest still of all times also these things apply to all the great running backs Walter Payton OJ Simpson etc same thing with track n field bob hayes was they say the fastest man ever walk on a track he ran a 9.9 on a dirt track..lol bolt is running it on a almost rubber turf track bob hayes would run a 9.5 every race if he had the same trainers and diets these guys have and most of these guys are on PDs furry and his brothers both have got caught look up tyson furry and brother caught using PDs he paid the ppl to keep that a secret when he fail the test, because they wanted klicko brothers out of boxing because the fights was so boring and wasn't doing good 🎟 sales..super stars back then would be super stars now if they had the same training that all your greats had most ppl dont think of it that way but this is a fair way to look at thing jack Johnson in todays time would be 230lbs bench pressing houses and squatting airplanes

@@drismooreful You spoke a whole lot of nonsense. I tend to favor the older boxers than most, and Jack Johnson is not nearly as good as people make him out to be. He literally was just a big boxer, he would have been schooled by the likes of Tunney or Greb had they fought. If you want a former black champion who would arguable do well today you should look up Joe Louis, the fact you ignore how much better he was compared to Johnson shows your bias. You want to hype up the man simple because he's black, he want even the best black fighter of the day he ducked all of them.

What in the 🌎 black has to do with this topic 😵😳😳😣😖😧😮😕😐we are talking about tyler you trolling and bored now..lmbo.. sounds like your more concerned and offended because most of the ppls he fought was white im not ..i even made a comparison to the great speedy wide receiver bob hayes could also be said one of the fastest men ever walked everyone say (usain bolt) is because he broke the record that was set by the old guys..i said to if these older guys who was great even if they was Orange and yellow if they had the updated equipment and diets and styles of 2020and coaching then they will still be great today thats including all great sports players now everyone seem to understand this perfect answer i gave the first time and will say well spoking brother i never looked at it from that side of things i was only judging it from there area only not looking at if they had real gyms and trainers like tyson and A.J etc then we can even out the playing fields they would all have some what the same styles and skills even the worst fighters nowadays don't have these old school boxing styles..lol so brah just say you right i didn't look at it from that point of view..you are caught up in the rascist back drop of this youtube story of Jack with him beating all those White boxers up who they brought out of retirement and he smashed there faces in plus he loved sleeping with only white women to add salt to the wound of the racsit boxing world of White's it was his protest basically towards White supremacy who made the rules at that times saying blacks could never beat a white man in anything (specific fighting) when he did it crushed the white brainwashing they gave there culture such a hard life for them at that time to accept a blk guy could be there 🏆 after all they did to try to keep him down it still failed goes to show you no matter what color you are God always has a plan to crush racist and injustice in do time such a shame the man couldn't live a normal life like me and you with freedom and respect and not fight for his skin color to be accepted..crazy for ppl to still have this same outlook now in todays time

Life was harder,tougher back then. You worked hard from your youth until you died

These guys were sloppy and hugged the whole damn fight.

@@nickleback3695 👈👺 You're sloppy and sucked that whole damn comment.

Hands low, body leaning back, not a lot of movement, attack with one or two punch attempts, clinch.

Seems like they throw about 10 punches a round

Well, one did.

How so?

@@deshymwilliams1390 You're a fool.

Yes, you can clearly see the fake punch in the head Johnson took from a 6'5" 250 pound Willard that shook his whole body.

in your dream Willard was a true figher

Johnson was tailor made for Willard. Willard was bigger, stronger, had a much larger reach. Willard pushed Johnson around the ring like he was a child. Johnson might have very well decided not to get up, but he made that decision when he was laying on his back and the birds were chirping in his head like the Three Stooges. Hey Moe, where's da boidies? nyuk nyuk nyuk

ladyboy... You talk like shit. 💩 You're full of shit. 💩

No

pongespob modern fighters can’t be compared to old fighters, they were much better than these so called advanced modern fighters.

@@hammad9091 forreal boxing transitioned from battle proven martial art and science. To a sport.

Talon Higgins exactly, and all these guys talking of the “advancement” of boxing don’t know how many effective old school techniques are being left out. Look at Jack Dempsey, these moderns guys would call him unsophisticated by today’s standards, yet in his book there is much forgotten knowledge of the sweet science. For example the falling step, how many fighters you see today utilizing this simple but highly effective technique? Look at the art of shifting, largely forgotten except for GGG. The art of in fighting like Henry Armstrong and Roberto Duran, with exceptions like Andre Ward and sometimes Floyd Mayweather, its largely forgotten too. See all this talk that boxing now is much more advanced, if a little scrutiny is made in these claims, as I have done, it shows just how inaccurate these guys are. Old School was and is the best. Modern Day Boxers are like University Professors, good, taking nothing away from them, but the Old School Boxers were like Da Vinci and Einstein. That’s the truth.

Please, do yourself a favor and go and get your head examined.

Excuses

You Know Jack Johnson kick that ass stop playing

I disagree Willard looks decently nimble for a big guy. He was jabbing throwing the right to the body and head. He looked like he could throw full bodywieght behind his punches. Willard got koed by Dempsey because Dempsey was to nimble and smart enough not to get clinched while he punched. Dempsey was also using alot of upper body movement and lateral movement to make Willard re position.

Cut the bullshit Jeff. Johnson's fight with Jeffries was also 45 rounds. Nobody made excuses then. Both guys knew it was 45 rounds going in.

@@yourdedcat-qr7ln You're correct. Jeff is stoned.

I hope you realize Johnson would fight for decades after this, like seriously this was towards the middle of his career.

@@tylerrobbins8311 but this was past the end of his fighting prime nonetheless

Well obviously. You can't expect them back in the day to go fast paced especially if it's 45 rounds+.

roger rehberg Jack Dempsey beat the crap out of Jess Willard!

sounds like you just hate Johnson! What about Ali? you must hate him even more considering you were able to hear his mouth. Dude, take it easy, it's all just hype for promotion purposes. Always has been. The way I see it, Johnson was supposed to lose that fight and could've won anytime he wanted. i noticed that all through the fight. That punch was not all that! Funny how the film was fogged in that part where Johnson lay down. He didn't even bother to try and to get up. I'm not making this up. I've read something about that once.

@@hx-flixblog4569 No mate he lost and made excuses later, that's all that happened. For once he fought someone who was bigger than him who he couldn't man handle, he tired out from the clinching and body shots. Willard won.

Johnson was way past his prime here. Also, Johnson had fought someone that was the same height as him before.

@@SimplyThatGuy12 Jack was 4 years older than Jess, 4 years! If Jack was passed his prime so was Jess. Jess also boxed as a hobby, he was a farmer full time, and started much later than Jack. They were pretty much the same age. What puzzles me is if Jack was such a great fighter where were the skills? For the first time in his career, he fought a big man and got his ass whipped. It was not close, Jack could not man handle Jess like he did the smaller men. And if you see at the end of round 16, Jess patted Jack on the shoulder, some felt he was letting Jack know there was no way to win. Jess had a brilliant strategy and followed it to the end. And with 1 punch ended the fight. Knocked cold, by the man who like Jack was out of his prime, hell, he never had a prime,LMAO Jack just did not have the skills.............