lot of drum schools , fb groups and teachers but james is the only one who goes into the details as no one Does.

Just to make it clear, to create this movement, it is necessary to engage both the calf muscle and the shin muscles. The shin muscles are responsible for flexion (raising the foot) and the calf muscles are responsible for extension (lowering the foot) you can't do an up and down, pushing and pulling motion without engaging both muscle groups. In order to get full potential out of the motion, it is best to train both muscle groups to work together. This will increase range of motion in the movement, thus increasing power of the stroke.

I've noticed a huge improvement to left foot independence after working on this approach. This exposed bad form and range-of-motion. Thank you for the dedication to teaching, James.

I've noticed after taking 8 years off I am having to learn this from scratch and it helps the most.

Seeing you demonstrate the technique is reminiscent of Dave Lombardo, one of my favorite drummers! You are an amazing double bass resource dude!

Thanks a lot James. Cheers!

Gracias!!! practicing it right now!!!

Your anatomical muscle explanations are so on point! Everything makes sense, plus I feel that your approach to relaxed, instead of tense double bass drumming, is really the way to go. Can't thank you enough man

Another brilliant video. 👌🙂

Again James, thank you a lot for sharing your wisdom and experience so that we all may improve our drumming. As always and ever since I watch your videos, you have benn a huge help on me being able to develop my drumming. Your information is really making miracles, although I don't have the time I wish to practice every day. Thanks for these "golden" lessons!!!! All the best!!!!! JR-PORTUGAL

Thank you so much, James! My personal feeling is that compared to the technique that only use the calf muscle, using the shin muscle gives me more energy and control over the pedal. The sound is solid enough even without a trigger.

Thanx for the great advice man! 🤘

Good video

Very cool video, that helps me pursue the “heel down”, wide motion exercises I’m currently doing. I’ve slowed down in BPM whilst doing it (compared to heel up, calf muscle), and it burns, but I can feel something good happening in the feet and legs.And thank you James, another reminder to relax! damn, it’s hard to relax sometimes. :-)

"More Mental Space" how important is that concept...Thanks A lot #JamesPayne for such important information 👏..I've been developing calf technique for couple of years.. yes I've been able to reach 250+bpm but I felt there was something..on this technique...now I know..👍🏿👍🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🍻 cheers man!!

👌👌👌 i like your videos!!

I've been playing drums for about 20 years, but never ventured much into the extreme metal scene (just because I was mostly a casual basement drummer) - but I recently joined a black metal project, and after watching your videos, my double bass BPM (consistent play for an entire song) is up to 180bpm, and I can also now blast beat at 200bpm (two feet) nonstop and completely cleanly. Something about the way you explained controlling our muscles through practice in this video made it click for me, and I was able to feel the motion needed to achieve these things rather than focus so hard on every single stroke. It's like I move my entire body as one with the beat, rather than focusing on every single individual limb and stroke. Idk, something about this video helped me a lot and thank you. What is the best way to support you?

Thank you for the nice video! I used to do 180 using shin muscle technique only 25 years ago . I recently wanted to start playing again after all this years but realized I totally lost my ability to do it. I can do 130 bpm for 10 min no problem but trying for a month spending an hour to practice every day still no improvement. Do you have any suggestions how to recover and go back to 180 without struggling.

Developing the movement of the ankle motion, my calf muscles do not hurt, as I have already read a thousand times in the comments, apparently I somehow unconsciously choose to play like you, James, with the muscles of the lower leg

Hi James! I've recently started to deal with the ankle technique after watching your vids. Thanks a lot, they are all very helpful. Now I'm able to play with ankle technique with controll at max 130 bpm, I'm relaxed and my motion is synchronized with the pedal. So I think I understand the substance of the technique. My problem is that I'm still much slower with this technique than with full leg motion. Do you think that I'm doing something wrong, or I should be patient, keep practicing and speed will come with time? Thanks a lot! Adam

help me a lot

@jamespayne thank you so much! For you what is a minum speed (without the pedal) to reach that allows me to start a use a pedal without the spring? thank you

I’d love to start using the shin muscle but can’t stop it burning and I’ve been playing drums years.

Thanks a lot! Do you recommend working on it without the spring ?

Hey man. Loving your videos. I've really been trying to work on playing without a spring (using tama dyna-sync) but I'm still finding it almost impossible. The pedal just gets stuck at the bottom (I'm good at not burying the beater, but all the moment dies at the bottom of the stroke before I get any more notes happening. I'm amazed you can control it so well.

Thanks James. I have a question about the heel up ankle technique. You have mentioned that you need to free the ankles to perform this motion, in order to do this does the thigh have to be parallel to the hip or slightly lower?

Is it just a matter of time and repeated practice before your shin muscles stop burning or is the fact that I can’t play this way for very long more of a bad technique thing?

I think I play with shin muscles and never noticed. I’m just curious, are you saying with this technique you must use swivel when reaching tempos like 230 or not necessarily?

James, Playing in Max tension ?

Its true... but really not that easy to achieve the necessary control with the weaker foot, I work on it for ages 😊

You're Marthyn jovanovic's dark alter ego. You even look a bit like him but promote the opposite technique. Honestly what I would like to know is how do you gain enough stamina with the shin muscle because for me control is good but the muscle dies on me in a few seconds. It just burns too much. Is it possible for everyone to reach a point where you can last a long time using it?

"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham