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Janus Cycle

Janus Cycle

Күн бұрын

Testing the capability of a phone with an Intel Atom Z600 CPU and onboard GPU with a TDP of only 1.3 Watts. Despite the tiny CPU, this phone gets hot and drains the battery. But can it run software such as games? Benchmarking with PCMark7 and 3DMark03 reveals the ability of using the Fujitsu F-07C running on an x86 CPU.
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F-07C Overclocking Guide
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MANTANTV - Windows7ケータイ「F-07C」 ドコモ2011夏モデル紹介
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Fujitsu Introduces Windows® 7 F-07C Mobile Phone
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@georgeadrianstefan1676
@georgeadrianstefan1676 Жыл бұрын
Watching this on a handheld device that has 12GB of RAM, 128GB storage, an octa-core 2.9GHz CPU, just thinking how much computers evolved all these years.
@juliusveneziani9455
@juliusveneziani9455 Жыл бұрын
What is it
@bezkonserwantow3392
@bezkonserwantow3392 Жыл бұрын
@@juliusveneziani9455 poco f4 gt
@AppleSmashLive
@AppleSmashLive Жыл бұрын
Besides, all these specs are kinda useless unless you run a real os
@NikhilSingh-007
@NikhilSingh-007 7 ай бұрын
What phone are using, George?
@georgeadrianstefan1676
@georgeadrianstefan1676 7 ай бұрын
@@NikhilSingh-007 Samsung S20+ 5G
@Ithirahad
@Ithirahad 2 жыл бұрын
Wacky device concept, but the aesthetic design is seriously on point. Early 2000's cheese was gone, but mid 2010's boring hadn't crept in yet. Can we get this again?
@pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776
@pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776 Жыл бұрын
hopefully not
@YS_Production
@YS_Production Жыл бұрын
@@pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776 ok zoomer
@unknown_codec_404
@unknown_codec_404 Жыл бұрын
@@pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776 We need more crazy designs
@pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776
@pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776 Жыл бұрын
@@unknown_codec_404 sure, we do! But in this year and age, a device like that looks just bad ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
@d9zirable
@d9zirable Жыл бұрын
late frutiger aero era
@artblanchard9555
@artblanchard9555 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I remember seeing ads, commercials on the web and on magazines of the F-07C and I remember wanting one but since they were from Japan, when they came out I thought they were a bit out of my price range. Thank you very much for this great review. I must admit is the first time I seen this phone in action.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I want to try out more things with this phone. Especially other operating systems. There will be a teardown soon. Then I'll take a break and make some other videos. Before coming back to this in the future.
@SOTP.
@SOTP. Жыл бұрын
Looking back at this, the phone was wayyyyy ahead of its time. Now we got stuff like samsung dex, and even i think this phone is better than something like samsung dex, if it was done correctly, simply due to it running an actual desktop os.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really like this phone. It's a crazy idea and shouldn't have worked. But used within it's limitations it works really well.
@SOTP.
@SOTP. Жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle true.
@randt0l123
@randt0l123 11 ай бұрын
wanted one of these for years. hard to find. had one awesome advantage. its compact size for its times.
@give_me_my_nick_back
@give_me_my_nick_back Жыл бұрын
WOW I'd have totally bought it back then! What an awesome idea! Just imagine how many xp or 98 era games and software it could run :D - I assume native win7 software would most likely be way to heavy to run well.
@umangmalik
@umangmalik 2 ай бұрын
honestly i would love to see something like this with modern hardware and Windows on ARM
@n64ever
@n64ever 2 жыл бұрын
Desktop OS on my mobile phone would be stellar, imagine one of these things with an AMD APU or an Intel 7Y75... 🥵
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi 8 ай бұрын
You could probably get an Intel N50 or N100 down to low enough power for a phone. 6W TDP and sub-watt idle at stock, but I recon you could slash the clocks down and drop the voltage a bit to get a 3-4W TDP chip.
@OSXMatrixMoDs
@OSXMatrixMoDs 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like even now this idea is still in the BETA stages. With Samsung DEX, and android 11’s built in desktop mode being the two biggest examples. We have the hardware. It’s just the overall software execution and advertising it to the user that it exists that’s done extremely poorly. Cross consumer and company adoption will never reach maturity if it continues and it’s sad. Because I personally think the concepts are really cool. Especially for school or in home use cases.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great analysis. I remember Windows 10 Mobile also tried a desktop mode and failed. Thank you for that comment.
@lalithrs
@lalithrs Жыл бұрын
The asus zenfone 5 used an intel atom x86 cpu with android... One of the best phones ive had and also really good for rooting... But bad battery life and heating
@MainAvel
@MainAvel 2 жыл бұрын
DAMN that's cool... I kinda really want one now
@MASA-ARRI
@MASA-ARRI 2 жыл бұрын
Believe me you don't... I've owned one and it's terrible at pretty much everything...
@MainAvel
@MainAvel 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the kind of useless shit I like to collect.
@MASA-ARRI
@MASA-ARRI 2 жыл бұрын
@@MainAvel yeah I went through that part of my life... Collecting things I couldn't afford back in the day...
@wolf3dv
@wolf3dv Жыл бұрын
I remember reading about it back in the day. I still kinda want it, even if I know I would have no practical use for it
@englishwithphil42
@englishwithphil42 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic!
@samwilliamson4715
@samwilliamson4715 2 жыл бұрын
I liked your touring voyager- yes I think you wouldn't be thr first trekky fan whos wanted to "bump into" 7 of 9 :) I thought maybe you'd head for the Holodeck ? Nice video, cool little phone/PC thing.. also liked your thermal imaging app and dongle (?)
@diomaiaal
@diomaiaal Жыл бұрын
Playing pc games on a phone, at the time sure will have blown my mind away.
@gparyani
@gparyani Жыл бұрын
I wonder what happens if you get a phone call while running Windows 7.
@jeremybeaverson7167
@jeremybeaverson7167 Жыл бұрын
That’s actually a really good question
@SOTP.
@SOTP. Жыл бұрын
I wonder if u can use the built in dialer to call
@LBSiUK
@LBSiUK 2 жыл бұрын
So where on earth did you get one of these? I've kind of been looking for one and have been almost entirely inconclusive.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
From the Japanese Yahoo auction site. There are proxy companies that translate everything and arrange payment and intentional shipping for a fee. They appear on there regularly and every couple of months you can find one at a more decent price level, even including the dock. I spent ages checking regularly and bidding on different listings until I scored this one. It wasn't cheap, especially with the proxy fee, but affordable enough. Tip: search for just the model number 'F-07C'.
@LBSiUK
@LBSiUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle How much did you spend on this one? They seem to go for around £160 - £200 (excluding postage).
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
@@LBSiUK This one was around the upper end of that range, but also included the dock and that estimate included all fees I believe. It can be hard checking and waiting for the right listing to appear. I keep myself going by having a list of items that I'm interested in, and switching my search routine around to different items regularly.
@MayankGautam2004
@MayankGautam2004 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel man ♥️☕🕊️
@acid_flash
@acid_flash 3 ай бұрын
0:47 The LCD is similar to the Sony Ericsson Xperia X5 Pureness (2009). But SE has monochrome.
@fbkensarhd5279
@fbkensarhd5279 Жыл бұрын
Both Symbian and Windows are incredible.
@michaelwalker8250
@michaelwalker8250 8 ай бұрын
absolutely.
@World_of_OSes
@World_of_OSes Жыл бұрын
I think it would be good if they put a full-size USB-A port on the phone.
@SOTP.
@SOTP. Жыл бұрын
Yeah... u have to use the dock
@DuCarrLangTu
@DuCarrLangTu Жыл бұрын
Hope that this phone'll got the techs of nowdays. With a CPU that runs over 2.0Gigahert and a more decent memories of 4, 8 or even 12, it might be usable, with Windows 10 of course.
@C00L3R
@C00L3R Жыл бұрын
just get a steam deck at this point
@FizzyS0da
@FizzyS0da 6 ай бұрын
I wish you showed web browsing and video playback eg (youtube, wikipedia, twitter, crunchyroll) and more games running on the windows 7 phone (AAA games from early 2000s or Indie games from 2000s or 2010s) I wasn't as interested in the technicalities or the setting up process. Please make a new video with the phone showing web browsing, video playback in the browser, and games from 2000s and 2010s. Although i wasn't as interested, I must say, excellent job in setting up the phone as it was in a different language and for showing videos of other prototypes and the historical videos and article's of this phone. Good work. Video liked for the effort.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your suggestions, I would like to return to this phone one day.
@user-kl6qj9lc5y
@user-kl6qj9lc5y 8 ай бұрын
I wish there were more x86 phones honestly
@reiisthebestgirl
@reiisthebestgirl Жыл бұрын
Man this is sweet. Almost like Pinophone with keyboard case and less jank.
@Cyba_IT
@Cyba_IT Жыл бұрын
So cool! I love gadgets like this. :)
@MisterPikol
@MisterPikol 3 ай бұрын
I'd lose my marbles having that phone back in my days
@jarifazmain5170
@jarifazmain5170 Жыл бұрын
So basically the phone has multiple personality disorder
@dotnickcommaone
@dotnickcommaone 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting…it works like a HTC Shift,but at a smaller form factor
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
The Shift was also an interesting design, more tablet than netbook.
@PScool3590YT
@PScool3590YT Жыл бұрын
amazing device
@SeanGeraldo
@SeanGeraldo 6 ай бұрын
I like the idea of that phone. I am the 121st person to comment this video.
@vihan4335
@vihan4335 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, very interesting device, if they make upgraded version with now technology, it will be perfect.
@gt8200-0
@gt8200-0 Жыл бұрын
I would buy it
@voltare2amstereo
@voltare2amstereo Жыл бұрын
I'd love my phone to be able to run windows full blooded. There's some things android sucks at. 4 digit atom chips are much better than 3, but this concept died too quickly
@raphaelkhoury218
@raphaelkhoury218 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.... Althought Android is getting better and better over time, and you can run linux on it, without rooting, from an app... I haven't tried it, but i imagine performance to be bad thought.... I am dreaming of being able to run windows on my phone one day thought....
@scalamasterelectros3204
@scalamasterelectros3204 2 жыл бұрын
God this is fantastic i wish more manifacturars did this
@SimSimsTECHcrunch
@SimSimsTECHcrunch 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if getting a light Linux distro or even Windows XP running would yield better results.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
It's certainly worth trying. I'm looking for some live CD ISOs to try out with booting them first. Installing onto the internal eMMC based flash drive will be challenging. Windows XP especially may be impossible to install on this eMMC.
@ihadnogoodideasforanamelmao
@ihadnogoodideasforanamelmao 4 ай бұрын
someone should try make one of these now with modern hardware
@mrdufenshmirtz1139
@mrdufenshmirtz1139 Жыл бұрын
10 years ago i dreamt of such device
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@mariob4735
@mariob4735 5 ай бұрын
Hello Janus, is there any chance for you to share eMMC backup of it (or recovery image of this... thing). Thank you!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 5 ай бұрын
It's 20GB compressed. If you can provide somewhere for me to upload
@adblocker1404
@adblocker1404 3 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycle Please upload it to the Internet Archive.
@mr.technologysilva8856
@mr.technologysilva8856 Ай бұрын
When will they make a new version, I'd still love windows 7 phone, or even windows 8, 10, or 11, but like maybe with the new devices that are able to jam core i7 in, I want an i7 phone with windows, windows 11 has a dialer app now, and it would legit be a good phone operating system, especially if they add android app support with the play store, it would be an unstoppable phone for productivity users, pair it with the cameras of an s24 ultra and the s pen, that would be a cool phone, maybe with a slide out keyboard like the f-07c or maybe like a blackberry priv, maybe a phone like the blackberry key2, also they are making powerful arm processors, maybe we can add better cooling with a little fan and heatsink and make it powerful, and even those can run windows decently, I just want a cool phone, I have a galaxy s24, it's nice but not anything that special
@alexandermirdzveli3200
@alexandermirdzveli3200 Жыл бұрын
The Hynix chip might be the 8GB recovery partition
@piotralex5
@piotralex5 Жыл бұрын
htc shift was a similar concept but more of a tablet size: it ran vista and windows mobile in parallel
@gergbowering
@gergbowering 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Where can I get that awesome Drempels screensaver?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Drempels is free and easy to find. The problem is it works best with older systems such as Windows XP. Due to incompatibilities with newer graphics hardware it's very hard to run on new systems.
@Zer01neBDTDev
@Zer01neBDTDev 6 ай бұрын
Try to installe a lightweight version of Windows 7 and try running Games on it, would be fun.
@bazzeil
@bazzeil 4 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Half Life 2 on this thing. Probably a slideshow, but still...
@Basti-7832
@Basti-7832 Жыл бұрын
"Fake Call" Got me lol😂
@rodanemontaque8499
@rodanemontaque8499 Жыл бұрын
We need a windows phone to come back, every new release of android gets restrictive like the iphone, there are certain things you just can't do without root and rooting is difficult
@Raptor50aus
@Raptor50aus 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the Star Trek Voyager game will run on your Sony Vaio UX running windows 7?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and no only run on the UX, but I expect it will run better on the UX. This is despite the UX releasing many years earlier that this phone. The VAIO UX uses a more powerful Core Solo CPU compared to the Atom CPU used in this phone and in many Netbooks at the time. Thanks, I'll have do a comparison at some point to confirm if this is correct.
@Raptor50aus
@Raptor50aus 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle Where did you get the star Trek Voyager game from?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raptor50aus I've had this game for a long time. I've noticed that it's recently been released on GOG. But you can also find it on abandonware sites with titles such as 'Star-Trek-Voyager-Elite-Force_Win_EN_Pre-Installed'. If you just want to test it out briefly, rather than play the game, then the abandonware sites are possibly justifiable to use. I did have to download and use the No-CD patch to get this running on the phone. venturebeat.com/2021/09/08/gog-adds-elite-force-and-other-classic-star-trek-games/
@Raptor50aus
@Raptor50aus 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle yep found it and DL now
@Raptor50aus
@Raptor50aus 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle I installed it on my Vaio UX and it plays excellent very smooth
@_gelon
@_gelon 8 ай бұрын
According to the Fujitsu webpage, Windows 7 actually operates at half speed.
@jun_suzuki42
@jun_suzuki42 Жыл бұрын
I have some sales brochures of it. Kinda expensive so only attracts business people. This is indeed a crazy device.
@EduardoAO
@EduardoAO 2 жыл бұрын
I have one :) greetings from mexico!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Very cool.
@HiR3x
@HiR3x 2 жыл бұрын
What version of symbian does this use ?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a heavily customised version of Symbian for the Japanese market. I’ll look through and see if I can find some version numbers.
@SchioAlves
@SchioAlves Жыл бұрын
So they really tough a smartphone with no Wi-Fi was acceptable in 2011?
@TheStanHill
@TheStanHill Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it’s possible to create a portable Wi-Fi Hot-Spot on the Android side and then connect to it from the Windows side.
@monikabixho7752
@monikabixho7752 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't run Android
@Connie_TinuityError
@Connie_TinuityError 2 жыл бұрын
What phone was at at 5:12
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
That's a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact with a Seek Thermal Camera plugged into the USB port.
@xxx-lq7ho
@xxx-lq7ho 8 ай бұрын
they should make Window 10 Mobile with Android system then very gpu synap dragon 10k w battery 16b ram
@belairrbx
@belairrbx Жыл бұрын
Try upgrading it to windows 10 or 11 mini
@SOTP.
@SOTP. Жыл бұрын
11 is 64 bit only so no way to get it working
@remondobriyard1
@remondobriyard1 4 ай бұрын
Now We have Android powerful than others old devices 😢 But I wish I could enjoy those When I was 5/6/7 😢😢 Whatever we have Windows Emulator now...
@BushidoBrownSama
@BushidoBrownSama 6 ай бұрын
Can this take an upgrade to 10?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 6 ай бұрын
I tried 10 in another video, very slow. Maybe I should try Win 10 Lite.
@BushidoBrownSama
@BushidoBrownSama 5 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycle yeah, if so let us know how that goes
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 5 ай бұрын
@@BushidoBrownSama Hopefully there will be another trilogy of videos with many more aspects about this phone.
@FireFoxDestroyer
@FireFoxDestroyer Жыл бұрын
This is basically Continuum before Windows Phone 10
@lautaro7958
@lautaro7958 Жыл бұрын
Can you install Windows 8.1?
@tanakayoshitake655
@tanakayoshitake655 10 ай бұрын
iPhone4Sと同じ年にこれを出す勇気
@daveit1337
@daveit1337 Жыл бұрын
Can you run CS 1.6 on it?
@AinMaliki
@AinMaliki Жыл бұрын
can you run windows XP on that?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
It's said to be impossible. I want to find out why one day.
@SOTP.
@SOTP. 2 жыл бұрын
How old is this phone?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
this phone is 10 years old!
@bladeskygd
@bladeskygd Жыл бұрын
get my friend one of those
@SOTP.
@SOTP. 2 жыл бұрын
You can actually get windows 10 running on a lumia 950.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try that one day.
@SiddharthLh
@SiddharthLh 8 ай бұрын
damn, norton antivirus on everything
@remondobriyard1
@remondobriyard1 4 ай бұрын
And I have 3.19 GhZ + 2.80 Ghz Still I think I Don't have powerful device
@djtomoy
@djtomoy Жыл бұрын
If my employer gave me that to work on I’d cry
@bogganalseryd2324
@bogganalseryd2324 Жыл бұрын
you should be able to run android on it?
@SOTP.
@SOTP. Жыл бұрын
Android x86 maybe?
@williama29
@williama29 2 жыл бұрын
this phone is odd of course i never seen this
@WinXP_SP1
@WinXP_SP1 7 ай бұрын
Would have played Runescape on this.
@_EyeOfTheTiger
@_EyeOfTheTiger Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the day when M1 comes to the iPhone and they copy dex mode but instead it’s full blown macOS
@poklik1
@poklik1 Жыл бұрын
UX280 на минималках
@edgarplayz1021
@edgarplayz1021 3 ай бұрын
get it to run minecraft 😂😅
@saisaitun2po4
@saisaitun2po4 Жыл бұрын
In Windows 7 fake phone
@radishattitude
@radishattitude Жыл бұрын
Who wants to play roblox on that thing
@dorkydicken
@dorkydicken 6 ай бұрын
Here's a good test for you kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5mBnpaUtZrPoI0.html it's Windows 2000 fooled into thinking it's XP and running XP with KernelEx I still wanna get one to try and throw ReActOS at.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 6 ай бұрын
Really cool video thanks! The problem with this phone is the eMMC drive has no known way to boot XP or before. Maybe not even Vista. I do want to try though.
@SOTP.
@SOTP. 3 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycleyou can probably port the drivers somehow, enderman for example did weird stuff with usb drivers to get xp onto a usb drive.
@SOTP.
@SOTP. 3 ай бұрын
@@JanusCyclealso vista should run
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 ай бұрын
@@SOTP. I want you to know that I really do want to make more videos about this phone. It's very important to me. I was talking to someone about BIOS modding these. But that process is still ongoing. Please keep sharing any thoughts you have. Every little bit helps.
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