@Easy Way Out He's not a chimp.

He hated humans long before that, his old owner brutalized him.

@@thathunter5000 they turned him into a monster

@Easy Way Out he looks like a bonobo, just look up bonobo vs chimpanzee and you can see the differences

@Easy Way Out well, there was a fan movie fact talking about Koba being bonobo. From what I heard, the bonobo species dont display much aggression and violence than chimp. For Koba to regress into such a state of violence and aggression, it must be reallyx2 bad.

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Koba became sapient thanks to the virus and suddenly had to deal with a lifetimes worth of lab experiments and trauma, honestly its a wonder he's the only ape the turned out to be a psychopath

It was not the virus, he got abused and tortured really bad before

Yeah I really doubt he was harmless before this gas, it just gave him the means to act out his revenge.

Me gustaría ver a koba como era antes de todo lo malo que le pasó😢

@@Bucko_BillBonobos won’t really hurt you

Tbh it was the humans fault though . Will at least admitted it.

While nothing justifies Koba’s actions, there’s also no justification for what was done to him.

That would not be enough for him he would want all humans dead.

@@birdman6427 I would too after all that

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Kind of interesting though how the new antagonist for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Proximus, is also a bonobo. A descendant or at least a follower of Koba, perhaps?

​@@dracodracarys2339im pretty sure the upcoming movie takes place LONG after the other 3 movies. To the point where they have nothing to do with any of the main cast anymore.

There’s nothing “subtle” about that tho

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The pilot Caesar bit was who spreaded the virus

@@Aptoxe it’s probably one of the better reboot franchises out there. I hope Kingdom doesn’t ruin it.

@@issacforman5069 no. The flu itself wasn’t on Caesar nor the other apes at the time. At the lab they were working on a cure for alzheimers called 112. They tested 112 on the chimps, including Caesar’s mother, whom both gained significant intelligence as a side effect. Will used the same cure for his dad who was suffering from the disease. It worked but only for a few years. So Will made another variant called 113, it was able to fend off anti bodies. He tried to test it on his dad, but he refused on his deathbed. Later on, 113 was being used extensively on the other apes because the CEO was impressed by the effects of 112. It made the apes even more intelligent. The scientist guy, Robert, was patient zero. He was drug testing on Koba, Koba reacted violently breached containers with the 113 drug and knocked off his mask which exposed him to it. Later on Robert sneezed on the pilot and died in his sleep at home. That’s how the pilot spreaded it to his passengers which caused the outbreak, and no doubt the paramedics had no clue what he died of so they and the hospital staff were probably infected as well. They all it the Simian Flu not because it was spreader by apes, but because it was being used on Apes and initiated during the Rise, they named it that instead.

Wasn't exactly his fault tho

Really? Well I guess it was humans fault but

Still the doc was an idiot

Just like the chinese doing experiments they in a biological weapons lab on animals in 2019. Does that make it the animals fault?

Can you explain it to me? I'm not sure if I missed it from the movie

@@JohnnySack16 Yeah. Some humans deserve it. Animals don't.

@@JohnnySack16 some humans deserve it

@@JohnnySack16 Typical Johnny Sack, there must have been free tokens at the tunnel

​@@JohnnySack16 If they're convicted of strictly heinous crimes, such as murder, rape, human trafficking, genocide, pedophilia etc then yes. I think at that point they ought to pay society back for the people they hurt.

Not just chimps. Dogs, rabbits, mice, cats monkeys , rats etc . The list goes on and most of the world hasn't even banned cosmetics testing on animals and honestly I think one must truly lack empathy or humility if they think they can torture an innocent creature for curiosity .

Ye he looked so innocent

I think it makes his rise to power even better, because he used both respect(for the big gorilla) and forcetfear(for the one that bullied him) to gain submission

I'm not entirely convinced he would've stayed nonviolent had it not been for the gas. I think Koba just knew how to placate humans (just enough) because they were the ones in control. He knew the horrendous capabilities of humans and wanted to beat them to the punch.

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The tragic irony of it all

I think Koba was already able to comprehend what was done to him. He already showed signs of PTSD and chimps, with or without super human intelligence, have already been shown to be sentient. In fact while I hate animal testing period, I will say that even some scientists who are pro animal testing draw the line with great apes as they see it as too close to using humans and using apes has been banned in the UK for that reason.

Ikr? 😂

Lol

Not his fault he was put in that position though

@@antx8563 true

Ape school

That's your father in cgi

@@MikasaeaAaah_Aahkercmoan no way

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@@funguy29 yes way🤣

Yeah I dont know what Will was thinking when he saw Franklin exposed.

Franklin should’ve come forward about his symptoms!

@@alexwilson9886 to his credit, he tried to when he went to go see Will at his house but since everybody else was present at the time of the experiment with masks on, they should have known better and forced him into quarantine.

​@@ianchaille997Pretty stupid of Franklin to leave his house when he knew he was infected with a dangerous virus. All he had to do was make a phone call whilst keeping himself isolated. Then again if he did that, we wouldn't have a movie! 😂

Dude koba killed a comrade because he wouldn't kill a human. That's evil.

Or if they ever had Quarantined him

You can see that among the other, he didn't attach all his strings in his mask

Blame the humans

No ones hates you....

I like # 2 best...still had OK human characters, but # 3? The story and plot were so broken and illogical. Tried to watch it twice, couldn't get through it. I find it just too dumb. So I guess even POTA suffered the sequel curse.

Clearly the only thing they had planned throughout the series were the relationships between Caesar/Koba, the Bonobo etc.., That and the "virus", but even that wasn't really explained all that well. All you see is the fat guy get sick and you sort of have to make the connection that guy killed the whole planet... while you're watching the second movie... I don't know. They really had a great vision for this first movie and then... something must have happened during the planning phases of the next two movies. They did not feel like direct, connected movies with each other.

@@tomatoesofdoom I really loved James Franco and Cesar's relationship. And Franco did an amazing job.

@@tomatoesofdoom And as I always say Rotten Tomatoes is crap. Here is proof again, the sequels are having 90% above ranking! What bullshit!

For swallowed sedatives they give you at the hospital? Sure. But for ones intended to knock out or incapacitate animals or people? A second to 10 depending on what's used. When going under for surgery you cant even count to 5.

No they don't 🤣 it's almost instantly

@@deviousraptor5078 Yeah I just realized that, but I meant that on the movies it’s always like 1 second and it quicks in. When in reality it’s more like 5 min or less.

@Steezy Oh shit I just realized that 😂

There’s also apes talking English in this movie when in real life they don’t 🤯

Technically he was already scarred before Gen Sys started testing on him

@@tierefuerimmer9635 That's the point, it was doubled down on, which makes it significantly worse.

Luka then replaced buck

@@Dolojit223yeah because buck died

Bro wtf😂🫵

And He failed 😦

Same

It’s not about age, after this movie and before the second, most people on earth died from the virus. I wish Franco was in them too but it makes sense

@@hairyrichard2609 I literally just said he could’ve survived. It’s because all them sexual assault allegations at the time

@@MessyGs-fq1eo yeah you said he could’ve survived because he wasn’t that old. I was just telling you that age doesn’t matter with that virus

@@hairyrichard2609 Hollywood got "woke", JF had an accusations against him at this moment. So no, they write the script without that character

@@topbadgun oh my god. Yes I know. But it makes sense in the story that he could die

Yes. The second movie is an allegory for Stalin’s violent reign.

Better yet use ppe that won't slip off easy like a suit. And Will saw Franklin exposed so they should have done the smart thing and quarantined him. But now humanity has been crippled and the apes have taken over the world.