Listening to 274 after 273 and how Herbert continued to get after it, the following viking proverb comes to mind: "Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young."

I love when it’s just you & echo reading a book.

Jocko please interview more ww2 vets before they are all gone. I’ve searched for something like your podcast all my life. Thank you for all you do. True American hero!

Jocko: *gives 15 minute lecture on war crimes and the Geneva Conventions Echo: “Ever see Cobra?”

“Put your ego aside and build relationships with people.” That’s a great way to put it. The challenge of leadership is such a difficult one, especially in the military and in combat.

I really appreciate Echo's questions. Every one is one I had. He's the perfect co-host.

If you want an extraordinary life, you can't be doing the ordinary.

Was waiting for this, the first one had me riveted. insane what he went through and even more was his attitude the whole time.

This guy Herbert is so damn cold moraled steel. I wonder if anyone of that breed is left

The ones who disliked this video are the last survivors of Ramadi still mad at Jocko

My best friend is from South Vietnam, I trust the guy more than any human alive. He loves America more than most of us lol... but, you should hear his version of what we were doing there, his patents stories, his grandfathers stories. Radically changed my perspective and they will start with me for the rest of my life. The first thing his grandfather said? "Our government lied to us, and your government lied to you." That statement was incredibly important because, he wasn't biased. He wasn't mad. He wasn't mourning. He was just being honest... and his account made me cry myself to sleep for the only time in my adult life.

*Don't compare your 2. Chapter to someome elses 20. Chapter. Compare yourself to just your yesterday. And if you constantly see an improvement that means you are on the right track.* I hope you have an amazing day. 🖤

Good midnight to all you early listeners..you magnificent bastards!! Loved episode 273 n startin this follow up at midnight...cant wait to hear Herbert's story as told by Jocko. Lets get after it!!

Can only imagine it must be a kick in the guts when Jocko comes across these tales and realises he just missed being able to interview the legend behind it

I recommend reading "Herbert's War" for more information about the investigation and LTC (Ret) Herbert's earlier childhood. It is an excellent book.

The only path is against the grain

Eckoh Unlimited: Ill watch platoon, you watch cobra. JÖCKÖ: No. Not deal.

I'm glad you continued with this guys crazy badass story.

Interesting Difference: in Germany the Generalinspekteur is the single highest military rank possible and the direct connection to the ministry of defense

Jocko's book reviews never disappoint! Both of these had me on the edge of my seat!

Great episodes both 273 and 274. Non of these book are available in my country, actually I cant even find them on amazon but I'm glad Mr. Jocko covered them. Great stories, great life lessons.

Thanks for these brothers, really helping me push on at work while having that poopy pants mentality haha can't wait to get in so I can listen to the rest!

Lt. Col. A. Herbert was a modern man for all seasons.

I served in the PA guard for 12 years and never heard of this guy. What the fuck he's a legend.

Well looks like I won't be getting much sleep tonight

The disdain in his voice when he said "snapchat" had me dying. This podcast was a crazy lesson on the implications of leadership and the risks you face when drawing a line in the sand. I'll have to listen to this and 273 again to absorb it all.

I'm sorry but Jocko's delivery made me laugh out loud despite the fact there is nothing funny about a bayonet breaking in anyone's chest.

Like many climbing arborists at times I reascue cats stuck up trees...I like to think Jocko includes us in his closing gratitude speach..risking our lives to rescue people's beloved pets....💪🇺🇸🇬🇧

Great Book!! Love the show brother! Keep up the great stuff!

Have been thinking about the last episode all week.

Love when he does these readings! I would pay to have him read more. Please keep doing more of these.

when jocko finds out echo hasnt seen Platoon at 48:46 , that "WHAT?" is hilarious

Love Jock, man you changed me

Fantastic and revealing story. What can we learn from it? That the collective powers in control will create their own narrative and their outcomes. However, the strength of one's own values and morality succeeds and at the end of his life Lt. Col. Herbert died in peace and in sincerity. That's a man, a soldier and a great human who came from humble beginnings and lived a life of service, value and goodness. It matters not that the powers that be lied, cheated and absconded their moral responsibilities. Herbert lived a visceral life of courage and a life of value. He answered to no one but his own strong character. The cumulative truth is really of no consequence because the life he lived was of consequence only to himself and those that knew and loved him.

*If you are reading this, never ever give up. We will succeed. I'm cheering for you!* Have a great day! 🖤

Searched for this after the joe Rogan podcast. Glad you went through with it ✊

"I thought I would win. I still had faith in the system."

These are scenes from Charlie’s sheens “platoon”

273/274 have been sick! Jocko 2024

fuck me, another 3 hours of this amazing podcast, here we go again

Best example off the top of my head of requesting court martial because you’re innocent is Dick Winters of easy company under Captain Sobel. He knew he was being set up and appealed to a court martial and it paid off

Jocko- love the podcast. Could yall pls do an episode on Francis Marion or John S Mosby?

I think Jocko's reading of _"Soldier"_ , drove the price of this (out-of-print) book to the moon... or at least waaay beyond my reach @ *$ 902.81 USD* for a paperback copy.

@2:04:55 "The Viet's knees" The author recognizing saying "the Vietnamese's knee's" would've sounded funny lol

Thank You!

Jocko, you're right to qualify his opinions as, his opinions, but I think after 40 years of hindsight on the Vietnam war, Anthony Herbert's recollections seem to have a great deal of verisimilitude. It is unfortunate, and embarrassing to know the Military I loved for 20 years acted that way at any time. I spent so much time studying SOG missions, that this was a rude awakening back into the world of the regular infantry of the Vietnam war. What stood out to me was how complimentary he was of the average Joe. "The best raw material in the world." I agree. When a leader is willing to punch up the chain of command, that to me is a real leader. Clearly, from his writings, he was no anti-Military dissident looking to took advantage of the anti-war sentiment to gain attention. I'm actually surprised by the treatment he received by the media at the time. Maybe they were just looking for military members to turn on each other for ratings. You'd have thought his story would be just the kind of ammo they were looking for in 1972. Anyway, great and humbling, as well as heartbreaking podcast, sir.

This was an intense one

Extremely interesting.

It's easy for many to believe that the wrecked morale of the U.S. military in the years after Vietnam was due mainly to the outcome of that war. But I have to think that if everything was really squared away, as officers like Barnes and Franklin maintained, there's no way such a nosedive could have occurred.

There's your slogan: "There's a lot of benefits to hats."

About present day fragging: Pat Tillman comes to mind. Such an interesting topic being brought to light here in this episode. And watch platoon, Echo.

I wish more people really understand what it is to be truthful and right. I think what it comes down to is a moral obligation to yourself. Right is right after all

I'm genuinely confused by the skepticism over Herbert's claims. He clearly wasn't acting in his own self-interests; all of the financial incentives point to a cover-up. That's not "proof," but the reason that the expression "follow the money" exists is because it very often points to the truth.

Love to hear a podcast with a former gurkha warrior

The reason leaders and ppl in charge need to hold the line when it comes to right and wrong is because if you break the law once and get away with it (especially with the approval of leaders), the line for right or wrong moves and before you know it your actions or your organization is completely immoral because those immoral acts are constantly just swept under the rug.

“You can do the right thing the wrong way”-

Anonymous Samurai Poem I have no parents: I make the heavens and earth my parents. I have no home: I make awareness my home. I have no life or death: I make the tides of breathing my life and death. I have no divined power: I make honesty my divine power. I have no means: I make understanding my means. I have no magic secrets: I make character my magic secret. I have no body: I make endurance my body. I have no eye: I make the flash of lightning my eyes. I have no ears: I make sensibility my ears. I have no limbs: I make promptness my limbs. I have no strategy: I make "unshadowed by thought" my strategy. I have no designs: I make "seizing opportunity by the forelock" my design. I have no miracles: I make right-action my miracles. I have no principles: I make adaptability to all circumstances my principles. I have no tactics: I make emptiness and fullness my tactics. I have not talents: I make ready with my talent. I have no friends: I make my mind my friend. I have no enemy: I make carelessness my enemy. I have no armor: I make benevolence and righteousness my armor. I have not castle: I make immovable-mind my castle. I have no sword: I make absence of self my sword. -Anonymous Samurai, 14th century

You come into this life with only one accountability: your own conscience, your own ideals. That's the only path you will ever be on.

NOTE: A newer better version of vise grip is being made in America again! Its still fresh but just bought some off my snap on guy. Only 2 sizes out now but they are true to form and nice. They got the old molds from Dewitt NE. Stop buying harbor freight buy American unless you have no choice please!

Finishing Extreme Ownership now. Read the three Warrior Kid books with my kids. Getting after it for the past while. I believe Herbert's account. Yes Jocko is right he could have approached it a different way.......but then he may have had to pay with his soul.

About to go to sleep. Good. Stay awake. Listen to Jocko.

Jocko, where can I find the master list of the books you cover in the podcast? Thanks

Love the direction Jacko's going with this podcast, glad I subscribed, therapeutic for me

the consequences of not going against the grain can be to horrific to imagine.

We had a fragging in 2006 at FOB Danger. LT1 and COL died

interested on reading this book 🤔

Wow, the unsettled Jocko at the end of this podcast is ominous

Afrotc cadet, question goes to anyone; What would you say is the most important thing(s) I need to check myself on in order to ensure enlisted are the priority? In other words how can I put my focus in the mission and make sure my ego doesn’t get in the way?

where do you find "the making of a soldier" book? I've literally checked everywhere.

Jocko, I am a retired Naval Aircrewman, a first class. I have something to say. Are you interested in a Aircrewmans story? Or is that too ghetto for you? Am I just a low class Aircrewman?

stories of the wreck...alive we are and we shall tell them...

Hello jocko I’m thinking about going into the navy seal training program and I’ve been doing a lot of research on buds and I was wondering if you had any tips for me. Also I’m only 14 years old and I’ve made my mind up on what I want to do in life and that is to become a navy seal.

What!!!! Empty feeling I agree. He seems so moral and just, yet it appears that he had no backing for doing the right thing. OMG what would you have done faced with the same situation Jocko? I understand that making enemies isn’t going to help , but how should it of been dealt with? It pains me to think that if this is how it was, that a man who fought so bravely and gallantly for his country was treated so bad for doing what was right ! How could it be no one was prepared to back him yet he had the respect of his men? How come the truth is so hard to uncover? So so many questions.

RIP Tony herbert.

Perfect

"It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, are of a different opinion, it is because they only know their own side of the question." The Philosopher's long-game ends long after their death. The Spartan victory outlasts the Spartan. That kind of win is not won for the player.

If Herbert's account is true, I can't see how to appropriately navigate alongside corrupt individuals in leadership. It's a mess. His righteousness and effectiveness only reminded them of their own corruptness.

Seems like the enemy is as much within as without us

I definitely need this. Thanks!

I am waiting for Your interpretation of the hiring of Richard Torres-Estrada as the Special Operations Chief of diversity and inclusion. My understanding is that the Military programs as they are do a good job of selecting for the best candidates, regardless of political ideology.

I’m just 21 yes old been watching for a while soaking up All this knowledge I feel a lil bit more cultured

Still waiting on the Rogue Warrior episode 😂😂😂

““Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Won’t he first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭14:31-33‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Colonel Herbert’s strand was missing for allowing someone to trust equipment he knew was faulty.

Vietnam was a Trainwreck, but we learned and improved, and became the strongest Military in the world.

1:15:30 did jocko just say what I think he said

34:57 About a good soldier not wearing sunglasses, why is that? Does it create some sort of flash the enemy can see a mile away?

Echo Charles, you should make Hawaiian hoodies a thing!

Just because you're right doesn't mean you have to be

Was LTC Herbert a Lithuanian descent? Or I misheard that in 1:00:00? Listening this podcast as Lithuanian officer it was a great surprise for me.

I feel like a kindergarten kid listening to a story read by Jocko and I am the only kid that didn't fall asleep as he read...😂

They used to call it ticket punching getting your 6 months of command so you could get promoted to the next higher rank.

Heard Jocko was running for I think governor #JockoForGoverner2024!!!

God Bless

Love this podcast!

Alienation is not for the light hearted

@ 8:45 jocko stares at the book exhaling with exasperation to confess "Look, this book is FFFUCKIN THICK!" Is what I's expecting to hear for some reason. Even though I can count on one hand how many the F-bomb has been cleared hot in his podcasts. It would have been funny though

I think Platoon was great movie

Thanks for posting

In my country Myanmar(Burma) we need lots of guns to fight back dictatorship!!!!!!