The blue-collar lifestyle isn't necessarily subservient, Peterson asserts. Source: • Q & A 2017 07 July Support Jordan: / jordanbpeterson
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@williamdobbins31313 жыл бұрын
I'm an IBEW electrician. A good electrician (or plumber, carpenter, pipefitter, etc...) Isn't cheap. A cheap electrician isn't good. No loan debt, always in very high demand, and 6 figure income with a 40 to 50 hour week. Pension, health benefits. I'm doing better than many college graduates.
@terencebantilan52273 жыл бұрын
I just got accepted to an apprenticeship with a local IBEW and am quitting my desk job of 10 yrs…super excited but also nervous about being seen as old and slow (33) even though I don’t feel it haha
@JohnDoe-pt8vt3 жыл бұрын
@@terencebantilan5227 Stfu kid you're still a baby.
@csmash3423 жыл бұрын
@@terencebantilan5227 you are so much younger than my colleagues
@terencebantilan52273 жыл бұрын
@@csmash342 I had zero experience or exposure to the trade world going in and assumed everyone got in after high school like people do for college…I’m one week in and found I’m actually right in the middle which put my mind at ease…loving it so far and can’t ever go back to a desk
@Lilmonke_5862 жыл бұрын
I almost dropped out this twice year because I’m paying 7.5k a semester at mu university when the guys at the local utility can make +$200k a year. Only reason I don’t go through with it is because I don’t think that lifestyle is sustainable in the long run.
@vit8250 Жыл бұрын
I just paid my electrician $8000 for 1 day of work. He had 2 helpers and got the job done in 1 day. I paid my gas fitter $2500 for 3 hours of work. Just himself and a van. They deserve every penny.
@jeromem6894 Жыл бұрын
I guess the real question is what do YOU do that you can afford 10k worth of work in a short space of time😅😂😅
@oldGnRrocks1 Жыл бұрын
@@jeromem6894 i would like to know as well
@igee1605 Жыл бұрын
What is your job that makes it so you can spend 8k in a day😂
@dmacarthur53567 ай бұрын
That what I was thinking when the person phrased it as subservient... go ahead and call a plumber out at 1am on a weekend for a busted water pipe and you soon realize that they are not subserviant. I also dont get that the person equates blue collar with someone who obeys orders without question. That person has never even met a blue collar person from the sound of it.
@sourlemon959410 күн бұрын
Hey. I like to work and love thoughs numbers, need a hvac person ?? 😅
@natedoherty34623 жыл бұрын
I'm a carpenter. I think the trades have a tradition wrapped up around it. It's got honor. I also think office work...is the hardest job ever...me personally. To sit down, not move, and stare at screens and figure out programs or take information and change it into other information....to me....is my personal hell. Sit all day, be inside, partake in sanitized but necessary office talk. Plus I hate suits. In many ways office work is stressful mentally and if you are energetic...but have to sit. It makes your body feel horrible.
@gs54803 жыл бұрын
Well said. As a plumber this is so relatable to me. You've made some great points but another added bonus for the trades is being able to see the concrete results of your work at the end of the day. Such a great feeling.
@arunraj_r3 жыл бұрын
As a office worker, I totally agree with you and for that reason only I hate those jobs and there's no freedom in that jobs. You can't leave when you want to and you can't take leave when you wanted to.
@arunraj_r2 жыл бұрын
@neal cassady I am not talking about slave blue collar workers who work their ass off for some corporate giants. I am talking about freelance/Individual blue collar workers.
@arunraj_r2 жыл бұрын
@neal cassady Hmm, but same applies to white collar jobs. Lots of disease they develop while working and staying away from family.
@eleanor47592 жыл бұрын
Sanitized but necessary 😅
@jamesbarnes18475 жыл бұрын
Don’t get a career in a trade...work in the trade to own the business. Owning the business or your own business should be what every tradesman strives towards.
@Radbrad8692 жыл бұрын
trades + a degree is such a killer combo. Idk why we act like you can't do both
@youcanfindrace2 жыл бұрын
@neal cassady you commented on another comment and talked about getting hurt. Can’t live your life being scared of what could happen. Gotta do what you like and are good at and do your best you can. Keep your mental focus, stay alert, and keep faith in God and you will be alright. P.S. don’t drive on the road anymore because you could get in a wreck and die. (See what I’m sayin)
@youcanfindrace2 жыл бұрын
That’s my exact plan as an I&E guy. Couldn’tve said it better
@tepid81432 жыл бұрын
@neal cassady yeah but some people don’t wanna sit in a cubicle doing calculations all day
@youcanfindrace2 жыл бұрын
@neal cassady it’s rewarding using tools and getting things done that other people can’t. Doing work is rewarding. Especially physical work mixed with mental work. Like I&E. (Instrumentation/electrical). It’s the best of both worlds. Desk jobs are the same thing every day. The majority of I&E jobs entails doing something different every day
@planetxtk75672 жыл бұрын
I just started work as a tower climber some weeks ago. My hands hurt and so do my feet. I finally feel I've found a job that understands me. Thinking is required if you're going to be safe to yourself and those around you and do a good job, but twisting wrenches and climbing a 250 ft ladder is so straightforward. I love it when things are simple. All it takes to be valued is to be at work on time and be a hard/smart worker. And I still have enough time for BJJ, working out, and any other hobbies I enjoy. I may be no Jordan Peterson, but in my free time I can improve myself for the sake of being a better me.
@sandycheeks1580 Жыл бұрын
🗣️WELP!!! 🤷🏽♀️ Microsoft & CHAT-Gpt are coming for everyone’s necks!!! 😒This could mean everyone suffers 😢as unchained slaves to the machine 😱or…… Everyone gets to finally live 🥳instead of working ourselves to death ☠️to stay alive!!!
@matthewwax4434 Жыл бұрын
@@sandycheeks1580 chat-gpt is going to get rid of creative, tech, and writing jobs more so than trade jobs, the only ones who won’t lose there jobs in those fields are the ones who are at the very top, it’s easy for ai to do writing, and creation, and simple mundane tasks, but I don’t see anytime in the near future a robot being able to drive to a house by itself talk to a customer, replace a water heater, test all the lines and pressure, there’s to many complications in the trades that robots just aren’t ready to be able to do as compared to other fields
@JourneymanLineman5 ай бұрын
If you think tower rigging is simple, get off the tower you are a hazard.
@stephenandrews80876 жыл бұрын
Im an hvac tech and I feel for the people who are angry about their blue collar life and feel less important than their white collar brethren. I will say though that this choice ive made has made me unbelievably self reflective and help me work out issues of faith and worth value and identity my life isn't perfect but I thank God that my work has provided me with the resources to live well and the opportunity to talk to and influence (in small ways) the people I come into contact with throughout the day.
@LowenKM2 жыл бұрын
Dunno whether it's new, or has always been there, but if there ever was a blue collar 'chip-on-the-shoulder', these days it seems to have coalesced into some kinda identity as a perpetually aggrieved 'Victim'. And of course Victimhood is never accountable and always 'entitled'.
@succajoeblow2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you absolutely hate your profession
@AlexBianco100 Жыл бұрын
Cap n' go
@natedoherty3462 Жыл бұрын
I can understand that opinion you have. Yeah. If you know other things about life, like if you have an awakened mind, you can see, some find their big scores and get to it in the business, other times you can be a regular joe. If you stay with regular joe, you gotta see our lifestyle work whatever as meaningful and somewhat forgotten or just regular joe sixpack.
@jms031310 ай бұрын
White collar workers in the grand scheme of things truly are useless
@jwill858711 ай бұрын
Skilled labor isn't cheap, cheap labor isn't skilled. Blue collar and damn proud of every dollar.
@thesaint84005 жыл бұрын
Anecdotally speaking, I know far more multimillionaires who started in trades than who did white collar jobs. When you're smart and do vocational work, you can really make a ton of money, be doing something fun and not taking orders
@kevinc8955 Жыл бұрын
That’s because you work in trades so you know more people that work in trades. Tech startups and finance create more millionaires than any other industries, both white collar.
@jacobcarolan11722 жыл бұрын
I went through school in the gifted programs but had no motivation to perform well in an academic setting. Welding is what I settled on and I have no regrets. The key is being a high level tradesmen, you will hate a career as a one trick pony no matter what field you choose. My math, material science, and metallurgy knowledge is becoming vast. My problem solving skills I would put up against almost anyone. If you are truly hungry for success and yearn to be self employed trades are the best option.
@pilotoblackbird433 Жыл бұрын
Exactly this. Went through grade school as gifted and talented. Hated the monotony of it and wanted to be a pilot. That’s expensive. And now I’m 3 months away from graduating as an aircraft technician after 2 years of intense and damn near daily schooling. And it’s fun and rewarding and an honorable vocation to everyday society.
@davidthomspson97717 ай бұрын
Ditto...been a welder since high school, known many friends who went on to college and became intellectual idiots.
@cirtainrod949210 ай бұрын
The trades people built society. Those people are valuable wherever they go.
@thegreatboibruh5169 Жыл бұрын
Listen: human beings weren't created to sit around and push paper, the human body becomes its finest when exposed to physical exertion. Thats why gyms exist, so those that don't have physical jobs still get that exertion. Why not have a job that brings out the best within yourself physically? Also: who says blue collar boys are so sub-servient? Most white-collar people are a slave to their company. So you have to pick a struggle.
@detpistons4l401 Жыл бұрын
That’s true theirs very few amount of people who actually don’t have subservient jobs. But I’m a 20 year old working a blue collar job at ups right now. It’s good money you get a pention at this rate I’ll retire by...... 55-60. Wtf. I have to spend my whole life delivering packages man. Seems depressing idrk. I wish I was a super smart kid who tried in school and made 6 figures. But nah I gotta break my back to retire at the end of my life. This is a fatalist outlook I know and I don’t know when I developed this outlook. Or why I did.
@thegreatboibruh5169 Жыл бұрын
@@detpistons4l401 Idk bro you might actually be in a pretty good spot. There are so many people that retire early, and non of them did it by working a job and saving in a bank account. Be smart with your money, live within your means and invest wisely and maybe even create a company if you feel that may be your thing. The only limit is your mind bro. You're 20, way too young to have a fatalist mindset. Go get your bag man. I believe in you.
@DrAdnan6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is always so insightful
@robertgallagher77342 жыл бұрын
Not everyone one is built to ride a desk for a living. There are even smart people in the trades too- and there are definitely some dumb ones in the office. People have different strengths & weaknesses. Found this to be true every place I've worked.
@Moto-foody9 ай бұрын
I made more money as an aerospace machinist than many of my friends who went to college and started white collar careers. I was already a journeyman tool & die maker and running a shift when they graduated and started an entry level career. I went to my buddy’s graduation ceremony on my brand new Harley Electra Glide. At that time I was buying a house, had a a brand new (paid cash) Toyota Supra, was restoring a 1964 Ford Bronco and taking classes at a community college at night. I have since gone on to earn 2 masters degrees (thank you GI Bill, I enlisted later in life) and am now considered a “professional” (whatever that means) and make a little bit more money, but believe I was more content working with my hands and brain.
@jeremyr95415 ай бұрын
As a machinist, what bachelors and masters degrees did you choose to pursue?
@kurtbrayford64912 жыл бұрын
as an tradesman my self, you can pick the people who think the blue-collar lifestyle is subservient, and good trades people avoid working for them and or charge a lot when working for people like that, and hear in OZ trades people earn more than many Oj's(office urm employees ha ha) and you know what most of us people who do real work are fitter faster and stronger than people who sit down all day long in air con,if there is an car crash we are able to assist the injurerd people than some one who isnt confronted by injuries regula(as yes we do get hurt more but we have to be physically tougher )
@lovetheNorml Жыл бұрын
That's why I love you Mr. Peterson. I'm a 48 year old semi retired son of a plumber, plumber handyman. Non educated no high-school, self-taught one man show that's bored and won't build during these Brandon prices, looking for a side gig. It's 20゚ outside Fahrenheit, 87 inside! windows are open. I ate a venison burger , I got on opening day. With my own fresh eggs, raised in the back. Life is good! Oh i speak two languages, not very good at either. Lol
@natedoherty34623 жыл бұрын
JP would say this. He's an old dude who's mature and responsible but talks in his lectures alot about the value of being young dumb and going to parties and drinking. He's nuanced. He values many parts of life. This has always been his central strength
@AMindInOverdrive2 жыл бұрын
Blue collar is 'subservient"??? LOL So many white collar jobs are super-subservient - a slave to the company. Most tradesmen can quit one job and have another by tomorrow! Or better still, start their own business. I'm a construction estimator and I really envy electricians/millwrights/mechanics/etc. Working with your hands is the most satisfying thing for income.
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
Blue collar has always been subservient, You can also start a business and deeding on the field it can potentially pay far better .
@jeffshackleford3152 Жыл бұрын
Estimating is basically the same as blue collar. You get blamed for everything that goes wrong and will never even get a pat on the but if you do it right.
@PerryThePlatypus3 Жыл бұрын
As a CNC Programmer/Machinist there is a world of opportunity in that industry....highly technical and unlimited innovation on the horizon. Between IOT, Machine Learning, AI, Robotics and good people to power it all, you can have an excellent career.
@HITTAGAME Жыл бұрын
3 years into being a CNC Machinist I learn something everyday and I make myself more valuable to the employer. CNC isn't for the weak let me tell you that. Theres a lack of new good machinists now a days especially here in the Chicagoland area
@PerryThePlatypus3 Жыл бұрын
@@HITTAGAME Definitely hard to find consistent talent that is apt for a changing, rapidly advancing field. Congrats on sticking with it for 3 years. I'm entering my 8th year in the trade.
@jojolopez177 Жыл бұрын
How the pay cnc machinist
@PerryThePlatypus3 Жыл бұрын
@Jojo Lopez starting out you can make 50K+ / year gross ... with some experience and a good shop that wants their employees to excel and grow together you could make upward of 100k. There's other skills besides just knowing how to do all the jobs on the floor that get you into this pay grade.
@JRM1371 Жыл бұрын
I've got college degrees. I've been reading encyclopedias and almanacs for pastime since before I started kindergarten. I found my calling in plumbing after I turned 40. My body hurts, but I've never been happier and more fulfilled by my labor.
@kennethlodwig4024 Жыл бұрын
I'm a water worker for the city. But I have noticed how the college educated look down and assume we're not "cultured."
@joeschmo9953 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. Those "educated" individuals are just revealing their own ignorance. Just smile at them real big because they will either smile back and respect you as a contributor to your organization or they will show their disdain.
@Muchowski_B3 жыл бұрын
White collars couldn’t exist without the blue collars
@janwrobel891218 күн бұрын
Like combat and support arms.
@andre1987eph2 жыл бұрын
It still pays to be smart whether blue collar or white collar. A smart person can turn $50,000 into $5M in the stock market. As Warren Buffet used to say: “If you don’t put your money to work for you overnight, you will be working for the rest of your life.”
@TheGravygun Жыл бұрын
So can a blue collar guy He just got to pay a pencil pusher like you
@davidralphs42 жыл бұрын
I know a 61-year-old man who lies about his childhood. He tells everyone that his father was a corporate attorney. Born an only child reared by a nanny in a 12,000 square foot mansion. The reality is that he has 3 siblings. His dad was a union plumber and grew up in a very modest home in a blue collar 1970s neighborhood.
@americafirst60162 жыл бұрын
Man idk, Commercial HVAC service tech have to be damn near engineers for what we do. Some of us even are.
@chaos56426 ай бұрын
worked as a data analyst were the job was always undefined. Now I work as a local delivery driver, which is way more straight forward. They definitely both have pros and cons but overall I prefer working as a delivery driver
@GarbageGangster2 жыл бұрын
I’m a garbage man. I pull 6 figures with lots of overtime, 70-80k with some overtime. Not to mention my job requires and makes me very fit and physically strong
@eesafredericks21222 жыл бұрын
Some of the richest people Ik are blue collar lmao
@GarbageGangster2 жыл бұрын
@@eesafredericks2122 yes I don’t know what pushed the white collar boom, do you? The only downside of blue collar work is that after about 45 or 55 years old it can get hard on the body but not really that badly if you just take care of yourself.
@TheGravygun Жыл бұрын
@@GarbageGangster If you look at some of the old footage of when they built the Empire State Building most of the guys that were walking that steel and running those jobs were over 40You didn't see a lot of young guys in there
@theworldbegoinup3289 Жыл бұрын
it's good money but whats good money if your career is soo phyically demanding
@robertjr8205 Жыл бұрын
@@theworldbegoinup3289and no time to use that money. I feel like you’re just working your ass off to have money for the last 10 years of your elderly body broken life.
@lotstolearn53507 жыл бұрын
Trades or STEM.
@jeffnuts24023 жыл бұрын
💯Everything else is basically useless
@sictransitgloriamundi70333 жыл бұрын
I make more money detailing boats and cars than i would have made as a psychologist
@rainewilliams48723 жыл бұрын
@@sictransitgloriamundi7033 and I’m sure you’re fulfilled every day, working with your hands and on your feet keeps you young physically and mentally
@nickandersen52133 жыл бұрын
@@rainewilliams4872 couldn’t agree more. I wish everyone saw it this way
@stevenliang3213 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffnuts2402 What about business? Like accounting, marketing, HR, and finance?
@danielhausbeck9976 Жыл бұрын
I work in skilled trades, and I make $400.00 per man hour with a 50% personal gross profit margin during an economic contraction. Now keep in mind that I also live and operate in Denver, Co. I know handymen in my area who make $900.00 per man hour relative to hyper inflation in 2022.
@j0nnyism6 жыл бұрын
Some plumbers i know are better earners than some lswyers and doctors
@cholericmelancholic35996 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The drive to push every intelligent student towards a degree instead of trades/ other occupations has brought the salaries of some white collar jobs down whereas there are fewer people going into the trades and it's raised the wages.
@noongourfain6 жыл бұрын
Car mechanic...they have to be very smart & they make great money but no one want's their kid to become a car mechanic. No prestige.
@trollpolice3 жыл бұрын
“Intellectuals” can’t fix anything but sure can rationalize abstract useless concepts.
@yourboyfriend94802 жыл бұрын
some not all. by the way, blue collar is useful and good. i am grateful for all the help they give.
@Kal-El207 Жыл бұрын
@@noongourfain They should push their kid to do that and tell their kid they could be in charge of their own business one day with enough hard work.
@TheEgg1856 жыл бұрын
This is the answer I expected him to give.
@VF1SkullangelАй бұрын
I really wish the trade I'm working in is that companies would actually pay what we are worth. I Do commercial HVAC and 5 years in and i'm still not making a living wage.
@ItsKyleW Жыл бұрын
One of the wisest people alive
@StikiFing4z20 күн бұрын
Went from white collar banking department to working as a Railman. I've learnt so much in the space of 4 months, and I feel way more motivated now than when I was stuck behind a computer, collecting jelly rolls in a swivel chair. 😂
@prestonnewcomb59919 ай бұрын
I'm a Microsoft/CompTIA certified IT tech, and a former auto mechanic (no ASE, I went straight to owning my shop), and I still don't understand basic plumbing diagnostics. Sure, it's likely a lack of effort, but that is significant effort. I'm a terrible carpenter too, and terrified of high voltage wiring! I also studied law and have been a successful self litigant. Intelligence means nothing, determination and focus are what matters most.
@hulkhoganwwf Жыл бұрын
Im an owner operator pest control. I kill bedbugs and cockroaches all day. I make 30k a month personally. Moved that cash to rental properties, index funds, trading stock options and crypto. Nobody knows and i love it.
@matthewgallant36224 ай бұрын
I have an IQ of 140 and I’m an automotive technician. I don’t want to be a professional thinker. I want to do things and fix things and work with my hands.
@RokNRoola Жыл бұрын
I’ve graduated from university and trades college. One does not make you better than the other. Trades is a better fit for some of you can’t sit still for long.
@ALT_RIGHT2 жыл бұрын
I am a painting contractor and I make more than just about every doctor outside of cosmetics I work when I want to work and I don't work when I don't want to work I Am My Own Boss I take care of business and don't answer to anybody so piss off if you think blue collar is subservient
@robertjr8205 Жыл бұрын
Why do I see everyone bragging about making 100k-200k but the average salary even in Cali is way less for a majority of trades. Assuming they don’t have a business if their own that is. A lot of you seem to not have a business of your own
@user-sb7kd3tb7mАй бұрын
My husband is an electrician, and we’re now in a position where he can support me and the kids on one salary. He’s our hero ❤
@ronpintx7 ай бұрын
Yeah! I clawed my way to a generational-first Computer Science degree. As a late-bloomer, in 13 years I was an "old-timer" in the high-tech field. Lacking generational management examples -- or interest -- I grayed-out of the computer science field. I really aspire to innovation now...where I should have been all-along. But yeah, the 'lil "Red Badge of Courage" helps.
@robertmccully279211 ай бұрын
I was a construction Foreman all my life. White collars have no clue how smart we are. All people, in all jobs of the world, spend there life inside structures we built. We are not theoretical thinkers, we are fact based thinkers. Huge difference! I like Jorden but all he does is talk on theory of the mind.
@mcgrathc12310 ай бұрын
I thought my white collar job paid well, but plumbers & tradesmen are making a killing! So much so I've considered quitting to get into a trade myself, the work is essential, adds obvious value & job satisfaction.
@alv981524 күн бұрын
The trades have been decimated by a shortage of real Tradesmen. There needs to be a serious sales pitch to get people back into the trades.
@georgehalasah557 Жыл бұрын
I been doing construction work on and off for 28 years now I started doing construction work since I was 14 years old and I am 42 years old now and I still doing construction work for living and I enjoy doing construction work for living because construction work is definitely outher stuff for construction work and is not like office work or kitchen work for living that way I life a blue collar lifestyle also
@CR-xr7xp Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how we compare, working outside with the boys been paid well and laughing most of the day. What's wrong with that? Madness
@yanbaihuzxzxzx11 ай бұрын
Love college people, they live in the clouds, love when they call about some reno work, and they think they so smart but when i give them that estimate and see their eyes bug out, thing of beauty.
@christurley922311 ай бұрын
It's not a good career choice, it may have been in the past. Hard to find means nothing to the executives.
@coryc.97093 жыл бұрын
Some of the most banal people I've ever met were of higher earning white collar kind. It seems weird that some people get paid so much more for something so superfluous. I see more room for philosophical discourse and critical thinking in the trades than I have with my more limited exposure to urban professionals. Maybe there's a more conservative thread running through the former, but on the other hand there's nothing more conservative than corporatism. IT people I know tend to hold progressive values that aren't reflected in their occupation or lifestyle and are handsomely compensated to promote a technocratic utopian worldview. Humanities people are an exception, the highest intelligence to competency to pay ratios, though I've experience with judgmental therapists and close-minded doctors.
@Kal-El207 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I do have to say this, I think you used the word “superfluous” wrong lol.
@nickjw88 Жыл бұрын
@@Kal-El207 I think he used it as intended.
@copperstar2414 ай бұрын
good intentions is all that matters
@CatDaddyx2 Жыл бұрын
The main thing I'd say is work for a company in your trade get good at it and make side money on your days off utilizing the skills. It's all cash money if you don't llc.
@Tapelband7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff.
@ShardTown Жыл бұрын
Dude what Karen asked that question? Getting into blue collar work because you "don't have any semblance of brilliance"? What a snobby thing to say.
@mikethemechanic7395 Жыл бұрын
Grew up. Upper middle class. Decided to become a Diesel mechanic. My wife is a healthcare manager. We do pretty good. We live in the burbs and drive nice cars and own 2 rental homes. I know I am not the norm for Blue collar workers. Most Blue collar live in the poorer side of town. They look sloppy and don’t care what they own. These guys tend to have lots of toys when they make good money later in life. Most people think I am White collar.
@richardpetrus263212 күн бұрын
I make more money as a manufacturing worker than I ever did working in the office and more satisfied at the end of the day
@Nate-vq6bb2 ай бұрын
I graduated from college and really hated it. I hate using my brain for tasks that I don't care about, whereas using manual dexterity to solve a problem doesn't bother me at all. I make upper middle class money as a blue collar worker. I know so many white collar, unlikable guys that I assume the career in the "professional" fields actually makes a human miserable.
@dshepherd10720 күн бұрын
Agreed!
@marioantoniocrespoMexican92Ай бұрын
I’m a proud software developer 🧑💻💻 I’m a computer nerd
@tannerc900Ай бұрын
Working with your hands is a respectable career, thankfully the stigma has dissipated over the years but there’s still the odd time you get looked at like trash. This video is what you need to watch if someone downgrades you for being a blue collar worker
@benjamindover260111 ай бұрын
These guys have jobs that keep them physically fit and pay good money, doesn’t sound bad to me.
@christurley922311 ай бұрын
A common thing tradesmen hear these days during the interview is that the pay and benefits aren't good, but you can work all the overtime you want. That's not good money. Unfortunately, that's how they get young people sucked in, and before they know it, they're stuck.
@robertbilton40738 ай бұрын
I’m in my 60s I have been a self employed carpenter and don’t hardly have an education and I make 6 figures
@imdbtruth Жыл бұрын
Not all blue collar work requires much skill or makes much income, but much respect to those who still choose to work hard out there in the elements.
@twiztedherb8 ай бұрын
I don’t know why people associate blue collar with stupidity. I am a surveyor which is a blue collar job but I work use calculus all day to measure physical distance across kilometres and miles we make volumetric calculations based on measurements across hills. We preform minor archeology by establishing boarder lines created hundreds of years ago by calculating the distance from a known point then digging and scraping to find the original monument which has long since rotted away. This idea that trades people are unintelligent has been brainwashed into you by being told over and over again that because you are where you are you are better than someone else. The trades are easy to become a novice but difficult to become adept. That is why we don’t consider you a skilled tradesman until at least 5 years in the field and even then there are some people who are better than others.
@trollpolice3 жыл бұрын
Ur more likely to have a successful business with a background in the trades then being a pencil pusher with a college degree.
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
Don't make me laugh.
@jurlinquist5 ай бұрын
Carpenter/Foreman for a commercial construction company here. Im doing a lot better than 90% of the college grads i went to hs with. People sleep on trades. Theyre just scared to work hard for their money and knowledge. Physically.
@aguy5593 жыл бұрын
Words of support for blue collar workers from THE most white collar guy ever.
@andre1987eph2 жыл бұрын
Not true. You don’t know his biography.
@aguy5592 жыл бұрын
@@andre1987eph In what way is he NOT white collar?
@melancholymartialarts70952 жыл бұрын
@@aguy559 he had blue collar work in his past.
@jackjack44122 жыл бұрын
plus he's done lots of renovations on his personal properties.
@hsfest Жыл бұрын
@@jackjack4412 so hes paid blue collar workers to do renovations and hes helped out with the odd bit here and there, i dont mind and i enjoy what he said in this video but thats honestly a really bad point you made lol.
@michaeldalton8374Ай бұрын
When the lights go out, we will see who is “subservient”. I don’t mean that as a threat- I mean we will actually, PHYSICALLY see the white collar jobs quickly ignored. Those with no skills except white collar will simply be in the way.
@TVHouseHistorian Жыл бұрын
I am a college grad who studied Architecture because I didn’t want to be a “subservient ditch digger.” I now work as a city bus driver, and have never been happier. My annual income is *well* over $100k, love my job, own a house, and live virtually debt free. Being academically intelligent doesn’t make you life-savvy, nor does it make you a better person. All an advanced university degree does for people in most cases, as I have witnessed, is turn them into pompous, debt-saddled, unhappy corporate slaves whose only happiness is looking down on people they consider inferior - people like common bus drivers, such as myself, who earn a high income, invest, save, travel often (because I’m afforded 6 weeks of vacation per year), prioritize interpersonal relationships, and are otherwise contented. I wear a uniform everyday which signifies to some people that I am an uneducated dirt bag plebeian to be pitied because I don’t sit behind a desk all day getting screamed at by clients and bosses because I can’t keep up with an unrealistic work load while making UNDER $70k, have terrible healthcare, almost no retirement to speak of, and maybe 1 week off a year if I’m lucky… Who is looking down on *whom* ? 🤔
@user-ev5zg9pl8t Жыл бұрын
But bro it’s really hard to make 100k driving around and u needed lots of hard work to achieve what u did.. many ppl can’t and t busy with other obstacles so they want a “stable” typa a job which is mostly those desk ones ur talking abt
@TVHouseHistorian Жыл бұрын
@@user-ev5zg9pl8t I disagree, it’s not hard work to achieve $100k per year doing what I do. It requires working overtime, but not as much as one might think. I work with one of the best-paying transit districts in the country, and it’s not hard to make $100k.
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a lot of cope,
@henriquec884810 ай бұрын
you must be living in scandinavia!
@sourcescience7 жыл бұрын
I spent my life surrounded by knobhead men who kept telling me to get a trade. I fucking hated it, and I couldn't help but notice that those telling me how great trade careers are never had to do it.
@christianschwalbach75616 жыл бұрын
sourcescience where would you fit best then?
@zachary62816 жыл бұрын
Jobs aren't always enjoyable. I do nursing and it sucks sometimes. It's stressful, the hours suck, it's the second most highly regulated field second to nuclear energy, and there is always new stuff to learn and have to keep up with. Trades aren't going to be fun at times either. They can provide you a good life as much as any other job, as long as you sort yourself out. My father in law works as a boiler maker. He is an artist with metal and travels across country working different sites for weeks at a time. He doesn't like the hours, he works in almost weather, and he travels from home for weeks at a time. The plus side? He can make $70 an hour and he can take weeks off from work to make his own schedule. He might work a month long job and be home a week and a half. Regardless of what job you take, there will be suffering. You just have to find what ways minimize the suffering and make life bearable.
@christianschwalbach75616 жыл бұрын
Zachary this is great and all, the problem is that trades are still dependent on physical health and lack of automation. Most people in my life recommending against trades were ones that had destroyed bodies from a lifetime of trade work. Obv. Not all end up that way, but it's a distinct possibility
@zachary62816 жыл бұрын
Christian Schwalbach It's a distinct possibility with any job. In my own career, we are just behind construction in regards to back injuries. That's a matter of self care and sticking up for yourselves. Many trades are Unionized and OSHA is meant to protect workers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with blue collar jobs. In regards to the lack of self automation, that varies on your job.... If you're at the bottom and you're a task rabbit, sure. Though, the goal is to get away from being a task rabbit. Mechanics, carpenters, welders, plumbers, etc all have degrees in self automation. They might be given a task, but how one does it varies greatly. You can even go on to be leader of a crew, then you're managing people.
@TheGravygun Жыл бұрын
I own a home exterior cleaning business in an ocean front retirement area of the East Coast.I don't make any less than $800 a day me and one other guy.Stick that in your pipe and smoke it
@spidercat28413 жыл бұрын
Thanks internet dad
@kevinberger8012 ай бұрын
I like how he talks about i.q, but I know people with 160 i.q and there not super competent people.
@michaeldalton8374Ай бұрын
*they’re 😆
@rheuss12 жыл бұрын
I’d rather be a blue collar construction guy than a white collar bull shlt job with no satisfaction guy. I’ve ran my own business for forty years. I’ve known freedom.
@vee_da_reaper23502 жыл бұрын
I rather be a black collar, blue and white is for suckas
@theworldbegoinup3289 Жыл бұрын
idk man I feel like the trades fuck up your body in the long run
@matthewwax4434 Жыл бұрын
@@theworldbegoinup3289 but many of them don’t regret it, if you take care of yourself you can have a long fulfilling career
@theworldbegoinup3289 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewwax4434 yeh I have nothing against the skilled trades they are great careers in them but eating right isn't the only way to taking care of yourself plus when someone gets back from a skilled trade job especially if your in the union or commerical you may be ok with working out after work but when u start to get up there in age it gets a lot harder to motivate yourself to exercise after a hard days of work
@theworldbegoinup3289 Жыл бұрын
@@elee522 idk man if your working out after sitting on a screen and eating right its srsly better but again everyone is different
@douglasmohammed9844 Жыл бұрын
You can talk till the sun sets; or get the job done before sunrise. Who are you going to pay?
@4.0gpa442 жыл бұрын
Know how to get more people in the trades? Get rid of all occupational licensing, including driver's licenses. It doesn't improve quality, and ruins people's chances at sucess.
@kevinwalsh16197 ай бұрын
I'll say this for lack of subservience: Unlike Dr. Peterson, I don't have to answer to any Board of Metallurgical Furnace Operators for what I say outside of work.
@kelvingutierrez41987 ай бұрын
Is IT better than construction ?
@JaredVal13 Жыл бұрын
My girlfriends father was a union pipe fitter. He was able to provide for his wife and 4 kids. Send two of them to college and buy his family a mansion and put in an in ground pool and etc.
@donalderickson33858 ай бұрын
I got a 1390 on my SAT, I had a 3.95 GPA when I graduated from high school. I went to a 4 year university on an academic scholarship. I lasted one semester and I realized it wasn't for me. I got a job at a local fab shop and learned to weld, read blueprints, figure out dimensions and weights, and make some pretty neat stuff in the process. I'm now an ironworker in a mill and I love doing it. There's nothing that is subservient about working with your hands. Academia has become a business and they make teenagers and individuals that graduated with useless degrees look down on blue collar workers, while they have 120,000 in debt while making $45,000 a year and the tradesman is making $115,000 with no debt.
@rickdacosta97278 ай бұрын
As a "tradesman" of over 30yrs, I am subservient to none. The association of low IQ with occupations not requiring a degree from an overpriced university is made at the perceiver's peril.
@EmilyGloeggler79842 жыл бұрын
I previously worked blue collar and it’s vastly overrated. There is not enough money in the world to get me to return to skilled trade jobs. The truth is that they are not anymore necessary than some white collar work. In the end, every individual needs to find what is helpful for them, and I don’t mean having a fat paycheck.
@TheGravygun Жыл бұрын
Almost everything that you see touch and feel was put there by a blue c man at one time or another not necessarily invented by him but built and put there.
@Kal-El207 Жыл бұрын
Well you’re a woman. Tbh and no offense. But you most likely never put in the actual work and found it grueling. To us guys, that’s satisfying. At least for me most of the time. Sure the trades aren’t perfect. Hell they do suck sometimes, but being able to understand things others can’t and actually learning how to fix things, is a very fulfilling experience. Most women leave the trades and complain about the workload as if they were the only ones dealing with it. But in reality they were given the same amount of work all of us have gotten, probably even less. That’s because trades at it’s basis is made for men by men. You probably do a desk job now, or call center, doctors office, RN, CNA, etc. That’s because those jobs are made mainly for women and that’s just me being honest.
@josesanabria2743 Жыл бұрын
How long did in work blue collar?
@LitTalkNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@Kal-El207 This is so true, exactly why I'm moving from white collar to blue. It's more natural for a man if your not a top-level IQ person and easiest way to own a meaningful company. Just an opinion
@TheGravygun Жыл бұрын
You're dreaming pal.
@thefrankperspective42472 жыл бұрын
There is going to be a shift of high intelligence career individuals into the trades. I wonder how this conversation will evolve.
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
I somehow doubt it.
@thefrankperspective4247 Жыл бұрын
@@AmazingStoryDewd eventually, the “smart” people are gonna realize they don’t need to pay $5000 for a lightbulb 18’ in the air to be changed. Smart, but ignorant will be in their ivory tower falsehood bubble forever, for sure though.
@gurjindersingh1992 жыл бұрын
10k a month starting off in electrical. Not bad
@portajohn Жыл бұрын
Where/ what job title?
@derek5168 Жыл бұрын
This is an insult disguised as a compliment
@juba0306 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I'm 43 years old. I have a 7 year old son that I get to see 8 days a month. I didn't leave him, I was forced away. I pay $1100 a month but I'm a dead beat dad. If my sons mom dosent let me see him, I have to pay $900 and wait 7 months to hear a judge tell her, "don't do that'.. she does It twice and he is 18. I didn't leave my sons life. I was kicked out if it. And there is nothing I can do about it
@imdbtruth Жыл бұрын
I feel for you brother, that's rough. But you should be proud of yourself for maintaining your sanity and your responsibilities in the face of great tribulation.
@sandycheeks1580 Жыл бұрын
You can LET GO & LET the universe bring him back to you. It hurts. It is a pain I know very well. If he is returned to your life, start giving yourself over to parenting him with guidance & love in his adulthood. There may be times where he will demonstrate anger or some other negative emotion towards you. Always keep peace and calm within yourself. Be of help, and not of enabling. Build yourself into a solid example of the man you want your son to experience. Not what she made you out to be or what she thinks you are. Gotta really focus 🧘🏽♀️ 🧘♂️ 🧘🏽 on you for now.
@bobbyemery1305 Жыл бұрын
Education level doesn’t equate to intelligence.
@jacobm924 ай бұрын
the weird stigma people have towards the trades is weird and reeks of elitism. like just listen to the way that question was worded. how are skilled trades workers any more subservient or less brilliant than your average mid-level white collar worker? if anything, the mid-level white collar worker is in a worse position with less leverage and less job security. people are annoying
@newcheese85546 жыл бұрын
I think he may have been trolled
@__-ni1kz3 ай бұрын
When this guy’s talking about stuff like this and not the pandering pundit bullshit he’s been making money on the past couple years, he’s actually great. I’m in engineering, worked trades before that. I’ve known brilliant tradespeople and retarded engineering students. Your career doesn’t define your intelligence, you can be smarter than the job requires.
@Yoda_Gaming1738 Жыл бұрын
while I mostly agree I do think peterson here has a small misconception, just because you chose blue collar work doesnt mean you dont have the "mental horsepower" to compete with other people in competitive fields like law or medical, now yes most trades people youll find might not be as smart but many just saw it as something better then their other desired options. I personally dropped out of University while pursuing a degree in computer science to learn how to do electrical work, im sure my iq would rank among those in the computer science field but it was just boring for me and learning it didnt feel fun, learning how electricity works was fun and its why I chose trade school. That said I dont think Peterson meant this as an attack, rather hes just slightly socially unaware at times when hes in the middle of his talks.
@creativecircles64972 жыл бұрын
This guy rambles
@sandycheeks1580 Жыл бұрын
🗣️WELP!!! 🤷🏽♀️ Microsoft & CHAT-Gpt are coming for everyone’s necks!!! 😒This could mean everyone suffers 😢as unchained slaves to the machine 😱or…… Everyone gets to finally live 🥳instead of working ourselves to death ☠️to stay alive!!!
@WhatTimeIsIt369 Жыл бұрын
Jordan. Do you think there are no intelligent people in the trades? If you think this then you obviously have much more to learn.
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
Generally speaking no. There's a reason High school counselors encourage those who preform poorly academically to pursue trades instead of higher education. Having said that obviously not all blue collar workers are dumb.
@jasonhughes5329 Жыл бұрын
I’m making $2,500 today seeding grass. 🤷♂️ Turf management is lucrative if you do premium work.
@noellogan66766 жыл бұрын
They are so useful? As in here to serve you?
@greybeard8046 жыл бұрын
As in putting a roof over your head and food in your belly. Try doing without for awhile and see how that works for you.
@Kal-El207 Жыл бұрын
Yes. And without us being useful. You wouldn’t have cars welded. Lights working. Water on and running clean. Buildings or houses up to live in as well as air conditioning and heating in your house for seasonal changes and so on. So yes to serve you and give you the life you have that’s so comfortably taken care of. We are here to be useful.
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
Yes
@imbutzy3 ай бұрын
Ah yes a millionaire motivational speaker who owns business talking about the lifestyle of a blue collar worker🤣
@wecx237511 ай бұрын
Your body gonna be broke by 40 lol
@veranichole1981 Жыл бұрын
He takes issue with subservience while I take issue with the idea that blue-collar workers have no semblance of brilliance. The most likely deciding factor that you will succeed has nothing to do with your IQ but the class you were born into in society. The media has fin making us look foolish but we are at the bottom dregs of the economy so we are used to having abuse piled onto us with little recourse to defend ourselves.
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
Sorry but IQ does have a bigger role to play. Ive heard this hare before and while there's some truth to it it's hardly always the case.
@warrenchambers48192 жыл бұрын
Been an auto tech for over 32 yrs. Drop me off anywhere in this world and I will have a job before the sun sets. You fat check suit and ties would starve to death before you learned the language to begin looking. Having a trade makes me free the company needs me not I who need them. I can walk whenever I so chose to and have. They send college students to work with me once they've graduated. I've mentored many of the "college" educated and I'm not impressed to say the least. College has done nothing for these kids but settle them with loan debt and wasted 4yrs of their lives. The failure rate is staggering with well over 75% leaving the field all together within the 1st 2yrs. College is a joke absolutely useless outside stem fields.
@TheGravygun Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah brother.Great post
@user-ev5zg9pl8t Жыл бұрын
Bro they want u cuz u have lots of experience! It’s really hard to find jobs nowadays chill
@stevenliang3213 Жыл бұрын
Business degrees are useful for the job market as well. Business is not STEM
@AmazingStoryDewd Жыл бұрын
Spoken like someone who has zero appreciation for higher learning beyond its monetary value.