Josh Pate's Top 10 College Football Programs (Late Kick Cut)

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Late Kick with Josh Pate

Late Kick with Josh Pate

Ай бұрын

What are the top 10 College Football programs in America? On Late Kick Live Ep 500 Josh Pate shared his rankings and the reasons why. Are UGA and Alabama still 1-2? How do Michigan and Ohio State stack up? What about Texas as they enter the SEC? Where are Oregon and USC as they enter the Big Ten? Has FSU passed Clemson in the ACC? What about Notre Dame? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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@LateKickwithJoshPate
@LateKickwithJoshPate Ай бұрын
Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! -JP
@zophix-5741
@zophix-5741 Ай бұрын
Texas 5th? 5-7 8-5 12-2
@glennwilliams2950
@glennwilliams2950 Ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter SEC.
@Woodyruff
@Woodyruff 27 күн бұрын
@@glennwilliams2950lame excuse
@strouth64
@strouth64 Ай бұрын
This fall, buckeye fans are going to watch UCLA's coach call in a play to Kansas State's QB, who will take a snap from Bama's center, then turn and hand it to the Ole Miss RB.
@AK-sq1jl
@AK-sq1jl Ай бұрын
Wrong because the former Bama center don't know how to snap the ball.
@zophix-5741
@zophix-5741 Ай бұрын
@@AK-sq1jl He's not even the center at Oho State
@johnbochenek5526
@johnbochenek5526 Ай бұрын
Welcome to college football 2024. Adapt or perish.
@strouth64
@strouth64 Ай бұрын
@@AK-sq1jl LOL. He's playing with the 1s as you type.
@Al-Rudigor
@Al-Rudigor Ай бұрын
And Ohio State had 15 hit the portal. We lost 11 more than we gained. Oh, and the coach thing is just dumb. They move all the time.
@ryannelson2653
@ryannelson2653 Ай бұрын
Meemaw always said: “I might not have any flaws but expect flaws from others.”
@bootamonster
@bootamonster Ай бұрын
Texas being ranked 5th with only having one good year the past 3 years is crazy considering OU wasn’t on the list at all. 💀
@devaughnowsley3871
@devaughnowsley3871 Ай бұрын
What has ou done the last three years?
@timekeepermedia5142
@timekeepermedia5142 Ай бұрын
this list is more about current momentum as opposed to historical results to be fair. Texas recruiting, staff, and player development is extremely strong right now.
@bbcribs
@bbcribs Ай бұрын
@@devaughnowsley3871ou is 27-12 the last three years Texas is 25-15 lol
@bootamonster
@bootamonster Ай бұрын
@@devaughnowsley3871 sustained their success outside of one year when they got their program gutted and got a new head coach. They then (in one year) turned that into a double digit win season. I’m not saying they should be ranked 1st but Texas should not be ranked 5th if OU isn’t ranked. Both schools have had top 10 recruiting classes (yet OU beat them 2/3 years), Texas’ past three records have been 5-7, 8-5, 12-2, OU’s have been 11-2, 6-7, 10-3. OU has been the better team/program 2 out of the past 3 years. Yet Texas is ranked 5th and OU isn’t ranked even tho what Texas did for the first time last year, OU has been doing for years 🤷‍♂️
@bootamonster
@bootamonster Ай бұрын
@@timekeepermedia5142 I agree that they have more momentum heading into next year. What I don’t understand is how they can be ranked 5th in the nation with only one good year and leave OU unranked
@hypedog2521
@hypedog2521 Ай бұрын
Director Colin currently writing up his two week notice. Im with you Colin we cant let atrocities like this happen!
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 Ай бұрын
truth!
@jonathonedwardmiller
@jonathonedwardmiller Ай бұрын
Mine (Top 15): 1 Georgia 2 Alabama 3 Michigan 4 Ohio St 5 Texas 6 Oregon 7 Florida St 8 LSU 9 Penn St 10 Notre Dame 11 Utah 12 Clemson 13 Ole Miss 14 Tennessee 15 Oklahoma
@psfsu
@psfsu Ай бұрын
Might throw in Mizzou somewhere 12-15
@jonathonedwardmiller
@jonathonedwardmiller Ай бұрын
@@psfsu Missouris like 18
@tallytrev1496
@tallytrev1496 Ай бұрын
Tough having Oregon that high when they’ve never won a NC. I live here in Oregon and they have everything else but that. No hate.
@sonofthesOUth77
@sonofthesOUth77 Ай бұрын
What a joke
@jonathonedwardmiller
@jonathonedwardmiller Ай бұрын
@@sonofthesOUth77 This is the last 3 years not last 3 decades
@user-fi4dv5pr4n
@user-fi4dv5pr4n 10 күн бұрын
A Buckeye here...agreeing with the "Here & Now". But there's always a "When & Then". That's the excitement of the game after all.
@CoffeeNo0b0514
@CoffeeNo0b0514 Ай бұрын
If you're really just looking at the last 3-4 years no team has won more than Michigan over that span other than Georgia.
@rally7
@rally7 Ай бұрын
It was a fight for Josh to say anything about Michigan 😂😂😂
@johnprice7315
@johnprice7315 Ай бұрын
Right. It’s like he was in pain trying to say anything positive about Michigan.
@glennwilliams2950
@glennwilliams2950 Ай бұрын
According to Josh anything not SEC is garbage.
@myronbrown9810
@myronbrown9810 Ай бұрын
I said the same thing, just like Finebaum after the Rose Bowl and championship....LOVE IT
@NeonKing16
@NeonKing16 Ай бұрын
GO Ducks!
@IOSALive
@IOSALive Ай бұрын
Late Kick with Josh Pate, This is great! I liked it and subscribed!
@austinfigueroa4851
@austinfigueroa4851 Ай бұрын
Here to see everyone cry about Notre Dame
@BigMonty686
@BigMonty686 5 күн бұрын
Underrated comment! Lol
@brendenstyre4784
@brendenstyre4784 5 күн бұрын
lol
@tyronpouncey5985
@tyronpouncey5985 Ай бұрын
Before I even watch, I know josh is going to put a&m on this list somehow lol I stand corrected lol
@tycardwell2991
@tycardwell2991 Ай бұрын
Where tf is Oklahoma. When you use your components with this list, Recruiting, on field results, and, overall synergy. Oklahoma is above everyone on the back half of this list. They have recruited better these past 3 years then the back half of the list, they have just just as well on the field as everyone on the back half of this list
@bootamonster
@bootamonster Ай бұрын
Not to mention OU’s past three records are 11-2, 6-7, and 10-3 and we didn’t make the list YET Texas’s past three records are 5-7, 8-5, and 12-2 and they’re ranked 5th. Make that make sense 😂
@derekmiles2543
@derekmiles2543 Ай бұрын
Except LSU
@jonathonedwardmiller
@jonathonedwardmiller Ай бұрын
@@bootamonster Ok. Texas in the last 3 years has 3 top 5 classes, a conference title and made the playoffs.
@marlon8429
@marlon8429 Ай бұрын
@@bootamonsteryea in the big 12 lol
@bootamonster
@bootamonster Ай бұрын
@@jonathonedwardmiller Ok. In the last 3 years OU has had three top 10 classes (and still beat Texas 2/3 years), and if you want to talk about the Big 12 props to them for winning it last year, but that was the first time since 2009 (in that period OU won the Big 12 5 times), and if you want to talk about playoffs congrats to them for making it last year, but that was the first time ever for them (OU has been 4 times). In the two “down years” of OU they’ve gone 6-7 (bad) and 10-3 (good) with a new HC. Sark went 5-7 (bad) and 8-5 (okay). So if you want to put Texas ahead of OU because of the success they’ve had in their last year, sure, but to have them 5th and OU not on the list at all is crazy.
@SpankMaleton
@SpankMaleton Ай бұрын
how do you put ohio state behind michigan when oregon is behind washington
@Whelmed.
@Whelmed. Ай бұрын
He did say "last 3 years" of results and UW went 4-8 in 2021.
@Troy-fv9uq
@Troy-fv9uq Ай бұрын
@@Whelmed.still can’t figure out after going 2-4 in 2020 to winning the BIG the next 3 years
@diondricksorrell
@diondricksorrell Ай бұрын
no oklahoma sooners
@Cfbaccount
@Cfbaccount Ай бұрын
I think it’s a decent list. Don’t agree with Texas. Going forward, Texas will be top tier, but not following your criteria of this video. I also think, based on a 3 year span, Michigan should get the nod over bama. 2nd best record over 3 years, 3 conference championships, 3 playoff appearances, rose bowl champ, national champ, H2H victory over bama. The only thing Michigans beat on by a few teams is recruiting. But development is 2nd to none. Michigan is late to NIL and really hasn’t even developed it. Michigan is up there with the most resources.
@djcb9002
@djcb9002 21 күн бұрын
no ole miss is wild
@MarkyMark1221
@MarkyMark1221 Ай бұрын
I can’t fathom putting ND over LSU, OU, and FSU
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 Ай бұрын
I'm sure...100% sure that it has nothing to do with their massive fan base... I'm sure it's all about talent and big wins and losses to quality teams like Louville, (8-4) Clemson, Marshall, Stanford... lol
@sethsnyder3820
@sethsnyder3820 Ай бұрын
Probably cause you're a casual...
@Whelmed.
@Whelmed. Ай бұрын
@@sethsnyder3820 - You forgot to add, "filthy".
@evan1788
@evan1788 Ай бұрын
Notre dame went to the playoffs twice maybe lsu but Florida state and ou is very fair to be ranked over.
@mitchellbatchelor1594
@mitchellbatchelor1594 18 күн бұрын
Alabama life long fan. Kirby is now king until someone proves otherwise. DeBore isn’t at Bama for his looks. Still surprised you picked Bama #2.
@sgt.sharky9832
@sgt.sharky9832 Ай бұрын
I wonder what your list would look like if you only considered the last 20 years by average final rankings.
@MichaelSisley-fw3xr
@MichaelSisley-fw3xr Ай бұрын
College football is money ball now. Look at the endowments. That is where it is now. Texas in this off season, spent and got talent. The bench is deep. If a program cannot "show me the money", they will fall. I anticipate Paul Finebaum doing a lot of crying.
@jamesman9208
@jamesman9208 13 күн бұрын
I really think to rank a program, you should look at last 7 years, and next 3.
@rockerfarm6445
@rockerfarm6445 Ай бұрын
6:10 is LSU considered a premier Programm? Okay i watched further and now i can definitly say it was LSU
@abh3136
@abh3136 Ай бұрын
Michigan had 9 portal additions on that championship team what are you talking about they the last team ever to win it all without transfers??
@mkwy8782
@mkwy8782 Ай бұрын
Many of them were depth players. Four were starters in the CFP-five if you include the place-kicker. All of them were culture fits.
@Cfbaccount
@Cfbaccount Ай бұрын
Michigans transfers are way under the radar culture fits. Not 1 million dollar buyouts
@abh3136
@abh3136 Ай бұрын
@@Cfbaccount right! It only took Michigan a global pandemic a big NIL push to retain its 44 super seniors, stallions sign stealing network,9 paid for transfer portal players, the biggest on field cheating scandal in CFB history, and Harbaugh begging his big bro for his best NFL coaches, and the whole staff getting out of dodge to finally turn the program around! All for one flash in the pan year!😂
@abh3136
@abh3136 Ай бұрын
@@Cfbaccount forget a million dollars Michigan sold its soul for that one shot! Millions
@myronbrown9810
@myronbrown9810 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bbcribs
@bbcribs Ай бұрын
Where is Oklahoma?!?!? Tf
@91ATLbraves
@91ATLbraves Ай бұрын
Same place their natty is. In the past
@ryannelson2653
@ryannelson2653 Ай бұрын
OU 7-5 losses to Auburn, Texas, Ole Miss, Missouri and LSU
@Plants28
@Plants28 Ай бұрын
Whos Oklahoma? You mean Chokelahoma lose by 20 points in playoff games Chokelahoma ?
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer Ай бұрын
Why do people talk about Michigan like they’re built on Monopoly money?
@newyorker3556
@newyorker3556 Ай бұрын
They were the most talked about team past year teams like Michigan Ohio Georgia alabama always will get talked about huge lsu Texas Oklahoma these are top tier schools
@taketheredpill1452
@taketheredpill1452 11 күн бұрын
Predictive: 1. Georgia 2. Ohio State 3. Oregon 4. Texas 5. Florida State 6. Alabama
@captnjim44smith74
@captnjim44smith74 Ай бұрын
Ole Miss is 1-1 with Notre Dame. Oklahoma and Texas lost the last time they played Ole Miss !
@nickrichardson119
@nickrichardson119 Ай бұрын
Hey Josh, Huge fan of the show (been watching your videos for about a year now). Just a heads up, a ton of commentators seem to pronounce Clemson as Clemzen. It's not the biggest deal, but sometimes it can feel disrespectful to some when an analyst (especially one as knowledgeable as you) doesn't know how to say the name of your school right. Please look into this. -Nick
@Whelmed.
@Whelmed. Ай бұрын
You do realize that people in different parts of the country talk differently, tho, right? Some commentators still say, "Warshington".
@ninefingerjack
@ninefingerjack Ай бұрын
Clemzon Cry harder. People say Oregon like oragone.
@isaachall8028
@isaachall8028 Ай бұрын
As a Michigan fan I’ll say your list is pretty closed to mines besides Texas being 5th and lsu being 8th I might switch them having lsu 5 or 6 and Texas 8th and maybe usc over Clemson at 9 now that they are in the big10/big16 lol
@jpea3749
@jpea3749 18 күн бұрын
what has lsu done in the last 3-4 that texas hasnt and then reverse that question? 😂
@jamescorwin7432
@jamescorwin7432 Ай бұрын
3 straight big 10 titles 3 straight beat downs of OSU 2023 National Champion Of course Michigan over Buckeyes!
@the1minsoldier719
@the1minsoldier719 Ай бұрын
“straight beatdowns” lol
@BMLocal374
@BMLocal374 Ай бұрын
Onward Notre Dame
@DennisFeinsteinCEO
@DennisFeinsteinCEO Ай бұрын
Go Dawgs ♥️🖤
@33alltheway14
@33alltheway14 Ай бұрын
Texas being in top 10 not Oklahoma u make me sick
@derekmiles2543
@derekmiles2543 Ай бұрын
You redeemed yourself for LSU josh I’m really glad.
@Keenafy
@Keenafy Ай бұрын
Pate… I respect you… BUT.. you said Georgia is 42-3 over the past two seasons, who did they lose to?? How many times did your #1 ranked team lose to THAT SAME TEAM?!?!? What’s the win/loss ratio between the two head coaches of those teams??? I rest my case
@Plants28
@Plants28 Ай бұрын
It feels like Alabama and Michigan are going to have a reality check. Covid helped Michigan win a natty otherwise all those seniors wouldve been gone a year earlier. And lost their coach. And bama lost the goat. I think LSU will take a big step. And if OSU or texas win a natty one of them will solidify the # 2 ranking. And if Georgia wins well. Look out. Also Ole miss. I feel like they building something good down there. And penn state maybe too.
@cincydooley
@cincydooley Ай бұрын
And cheating.
@evan1788
@evan1788 Ай бұрын
They had little more help than a Covid 6th year haha
@j.w.greenbaum7809
@j.w.greenbaum7809 Ай бұрын
Another OSU crybaby! 😢😅
@Plants28
@Plants28 Ай бұрын
@j.w.greenbaum7809 I'm not a Michigan hater I'm just keeping it real. I was cheering for Michigan and the big10 for the natty. Just like if we win this year it's because of NIL and us able to keep our entire roster because of it. Also us loosing to Michigan is another big reason everyone wanted to come back. So not a hater just observing what I see. No hate
@mkwy8782
@mkwy8782 Ай бұрын
How did it help Michigan any differently than any other team???
@CFBNate
@CFBNate Ай бұрын
No OU?
@robrichfryr804
@robrichfryr804 Ай бұрын
Let em sleep.
@brianjirish
@brianjirish Ай бұрын
Didn't OU go like 6-7 in 2022? 3-6 in conference play? I thought Pate's rankings were fair. Where would you put OU in your ranking?
@Vayne207
@Vayne207 Ай бұрын
@@brianjirishnumber 7 probably. And I’d kick out Clemson. They went 6-7 after their entire offense was pillaged by Riley. And then immediately turned it around the following year. After the Texas game last season (that they won), tons of media figures were putting OU in the top 4. Lost a few they shouldn’t have, because they weren’t an awesome team. But so did FSU, LSU, Clemson and Texas. Not to mention, they beat the number 3 team in the country. They don’t get any credit for that?
@CFBNate
@CFBNate Ай бұрын
@@brianjirish I’d put OU at #1 and everyone else off the list. Boomer Sooner.
@bootamonster
@bootamonster Ай бұрын
@@brianjirishTexas went 8-5 and 5-7 the two years before their one good 12-2 year and yet they got ranked 5th so yes OU should be ranked on the list lol
@robeast692
@robeast692 Ай бұрын
Go Ducks
@mt27mt1
@mt27mt1 Ай бұрын
🦆
@bobackerman54
@bobackerman54 25 күн бұрын
Michigan looses 3 maybe four this year ... at least that is what I think will happen ...
@jr4life2008
@jr4life2008 Ай бұрын
Damn Pate you’re going to hate revisiting this lol
@the1minsoldier719
@the1minsoldier719 Ай бұрын
Never cook again 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
@givemeabreakdoc
@givemeabreakdoc Ай бұрын
I can’t argue with any of that. Once you get past that top 6, there’s a bunch of teams in the 2nd tier.
@johnbochenek5526
@johnbochenek5526 Ай бұрын
Great idea having this discussion. Bad idea putting Michigan third. When was the last time a head coach left after winning a national championship? Why is Michigan outside the top 40 in recruiting? You have to factor in that Michigan and Harbaugh failed to beat Ohio State until Conor Stalions appeared. Zero wins. Player development - the NFL rosters at the start of last season had 48 OSU and 38 Michigan players. The three best players to leave the SEC this off-season all went to Ohio State. Why? I understand this is not a predictive ranking. But when you look at the state of the program Ohio State is right behind Georgia.
@steve7828
@steve7828 Ай бұрын
How’d it feel watching Michigan hoist the natty this year? I bet it hurts badly? Sucks to be Ohio state. Ryan day is a clown and a rat and a cry baby. Ohio state did everything in there power to prevent Michigan to win it all and it backfired so bad 😂 Go blue baby!
@Blizznor
@Blizznor 22 күн бұрын
Because results matter
@louisbrooks8824
@louisbrooks8824 Ай бұрын
I've got Oregon before Texas at #5.
@josephgibson1232
@josephgibson1232 Ай бұрын
I think UGA's GSR (41) is the most impressive thing they've done recently. Mighty impressive.
@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310
@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310 Ай бұрын
Ryan Day is starting to turn into the John Calipari of college football.
@nicholastaiariol2631
@nicholastaiariol2631 Ай бұрын
Didn’t Cal actually win Natty? We know Ryan day is allergic to that
@Britton_Thompson
@Britton_Thompson Ай бұрын
Only difference is Arkansas wishes they could hire Ryan Day once all of his hype gets extinguished
@clarencewalder2985
@clarencewalder2985 Ай бұрын
And what about you? Since Day is a family according to you. What have U accomplished besides ?...
@mikedesil23
@mikedesil23 Ай бұрын
Not bad
@Keenafy
@Keenafy Ай бұрын
Georgia has lost 4 games since 2020 and 3 of them are against Alabama, that is all.
@whatlol_e
@whatlol_e Ай бұрын
how are we in the top 10 when we were dogshit before the year 2000 💀
@ninefingerjack
@ninefingerjack Ай бұрын
I think this is recent memory.
@smiley3554
@smiley3554 Ай бұрын
Because it's current programs today. Not all time. Even if you wanted to be a Homer, Vegas would probably only favor 6 teams above Oregon on a neutral field today and those teams are ranked in front of us in this very poll. Sure we lost to Washington but we didn't just lose our whole staff and most of our stars like Washington just did. Our program is very very stable even despite all the coaching changes. If we'd won a couple of natties we'd be top 5 program for the last decade easily
@codyjump8142
@codyjump8142 Ай бұрын
IMO 5-10 should look like this: LSU, Texas, OU, Oregon, Florida St, ND.
@tommycaver6671
@tommycaver6671 Ай бұрын
🤣😂😅
@cabestherealist1108
@cabestherealist1108 Ай бұрын
I like Pate but don't really aggree with the back half of top 10
@lonniethomas8276
@lonniethomas8276 Ай бұрын
How is Notre Dame on the list? They haven’t won or sniffed a title since Paleozoic era
@BigMonty686
@BigMonty686 Ай бұрын
But you’re ok with…….nevermind. Pate has answered this question MULTIPLE TIMES on his channel and podcast…..and he’s an SEC guy!
@PQwhatitdo
@PQwhatitdo Ай бұрын
What’s your favorite Oregon title?
@RagedContinuum
@RagedContinuum Ай бұрын
depends on Freeman and Riley Leonard - look at Harbaugh with Andrew Luck - it's possible
@onendfan525
@onendfan525 Ай бұрын
@@PQwhatitdo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣LMFAO
@BigMonty686
@BigMonty686 5 күн бұрын
@@PQwhatitdoTHANK YOU!!!!! Haters “move the goalposts” when it comes to ND!
@Bluewolverine
@Bluewolverine Ай бұрын
🏆〽️
@FSU7979
@FSU7979 Ай бұрын
Are you serious??? Dude, do you even watch college football? Notre Dame #7 and then FSU #9 and you say FSU lost a lot of pieces! Didn't Notre Dame just lose Sam Hartman????
@jacoblittlequigs
@jacoblittlequigs Ай бұрын
Sam hartman is ONE player the fsu team lost everybody
@AFTD-tw4gz
@AFTD-tw4gz Ай бұрын
Lost Sam Hartman but added Rylie Leonard, has Kenny Minchey, added CJ Carr and going to add Deuce Knight. All I would argue is better than Sam.
@brendenstyre4784
@brendenstyre4784 5 күн бұрын
Sam Hartman was a bust and Jared Parker was a shit OC. ND upgraded
@denniscarney5249
@denniscarney5249 Ай бұрын
Hey @joshpate where did you learn math? UGA only has two losses in the last 3 seasons..
@poodook
@poodook Ай бұрын
WHERES KSTATE JOSH
@hostileactual7655
@hostileactual7655 18 күн бұрын
The amount of OU fans crying is amazing 🤣🤣🤣
@grantakin6334
@grantakin6334 Ай бұрын
OU not being anywhere on this list is legitimately criminal. Like c'mon, Josh. You dont even believe that.
@Mike-sp7zv
@Mike-sp7zv Ай бұрын
texas? No
@M000SE
@M000SE Ай бұрын
Josh I gotta hear your take on Wrestlemania 40
@kevinchandler179
@kevinchandler179 Ай бұрын
My Nittany Lions 🦁 are 7 at worst, ridiculous!!@
@snaggy_t
@snaggy_t Ай бұрын
yessir JP 😁
@fanman71
@fanman71 Ай бұрын
I think Clemson is falling off. Their schedule is butter soft year in & year out. I would say Top 15 program, but not Top 10.
@wesr1490
@wesr1490 29 күн бұрын
Ok I usually agree with a lot of your opinions but this top 10 just made me laugh....I'll give you the top 4 but after that a big nope. Texas and LSU over rated. I don't think Florida State does anything near what they did last year. Clemson eh. I don't know how you can have Notre Dame where they are without Penn State being the team above or below them when they have done better than them the last 2 years their only losses being to your #3 and #4 teams. Biased much....
@asdii2210
@asdii2210 29 күн бұрын
Putting UM over OSU is hilarious lol lost some credibility
@kendalllodman
@kendalllodman Ай бұрын
Notre Dame or LSU shouldn’t be above FSU.
@MJC__
@MJC__ Ай бұрын
$crew FSU!! Never seen a fanbase cry as much as Semenhole fans about where they "should be".
@user-wo9ns6hd7e
@user-wo9ns6hd7e 25 күн бұрын
You are not Paying attention - Michigan is going down
@tallytrev1496
@tallytrev1496 Ай бұрын
Tough having Oregon that high when they’ve never won a NC. I live here in Oregon and they have everything else but that. No hate.
@Whelmed.
@Whelmed. Ай бұрын
I don't think "never" should factor into it. Why does it matter whether they won a natty in 1950 or 1980? Would that increase their odds of winning one in 2024? Only six schools have won a natty in the playoff era. You'd still need four more to round out your top 10.
@tallytrev1496
@tallytrev1496 Ай бұрын
@@Whelmed. because it’s a measure of “top programs” and I have trouble saying your a “top program” when you’ve never won it all. It’s not “who might do the best next year”
@ninefingerjack
@ninefingerjack Ай бұрын
Love how he called out these casuals in the video but they still come here to talk. How many teams haven't won a national title again champ? Are they all bad?
@Whelmed.
@Whelmed. Ай бұрын
@@tallytrev1496 - Oh, okay. So Yale is a top program then because they won a natty? Tell you what, the next time Oregon plays Yale, I'll take the ducks even up for $10k. I'm sure you'll take that bet because Oregon never won a natty.
@tallytrev1496
@tallytrev1496 Ай бұрын
@@Whelmed. that’s a stupid thing to say. I didn’t say that was the only metric, It’s 1 of many qualities a top program should possess. To act as though I said that’s the sole metric is just dishonest and, frankly, stupid.
@jeffcolling9569
@jeffcolling9569 Ай бұрын
How do you reward a team that has been cheating since 2018? OWI much?
@jimbeaux89
@jimbeaux89 Ай бұрын
If you look at Michigan however, you see massive coaching turnover, and also the hammer that will be dropping on them any moment. I’d take OSU this year over them
@j.w.greenbaum7809
@j.w.greenbaum7809 Ай бұрын
OSU is so funny … dream on about the hammer. NOT HAPPENING.
@lukeb2156
@lukeb2156 Ай бұрын
Where are the Sooners? This list was just lazy.
@kaijohnson5033
@kaijohnson5033 Ай бұрын
Off the list. Because in no universe have they been a top 10 program over the last 3 years.
@wibbswitdagat1308
@wibbswitdagat1308 Ай бұрын
Why is LSU above FSU? Am i the only one who has watched FSU v LSU the past 2 years?
@kendalllodman
@kendalllodman Ай бұрын
Exactly. FSU beat them two years in a row, and boat raced LSU last season.
@MJC__
@MJC__ Ай бұрын
$crew FSU!! I have never seen a fanbase cry as much as Semenhole fans about where they "should be" ranked. Josh is ranking PROGRAMS not teams based on head to head results.
@wibbswitdagat1308
@wibbswitdagat1308 Ай бұрын
@@MJC__ FSU is an acc champion, 13-1. Back 2 back 10+ win seasons. With 2 wins over LSU. I say we are a better program
@Chicken-1515
@Chicken-1515 Ай бұрын
The sec gave texas a cupcake schedule, as a Sooner id prefer the fire, not the ice-cream itll build us for the future.
@josephrenfro6071
@josephrenfro6071 Ай бұрын
Love how everyone is saying texas has a cupcake schedule. Just to hedge against them actually being good there first yr in the sec. Its funny how people need built-in excuses for a team just in case they are good. Where are the people who love to blow the sec and talk about how good and deep they are? Here is a fact. Texas plays next year the #1 team. And last years national championship team at there place. I wouldnt call that a cupcake.
@shawnd229
@shawnd229 Ай бұрын
​@josephrenfro6071 An SEC schedule is certainly not a cupcake schedule. Humility is one week away in this conference. Some ppl just assume that because every team in the conference doesn't have 10+ wins, that means it's only a few good teams. The difference in the SEC compared to other leagues is that everybody (except Vandy) has top talent on their rosters, while other conferences only have a few teams. 11+ SEC schools finish in the top 25 recruiting rankings just about every single year. There are no "off" weeks in conference play. It's a gauntlet week after week of playing teams with top talent. Sleep on a MSST, or Mizzo, or South Carolina, or a Kentucky if you want, and it can turn into an L quick. Glad to have Texas and OU in the SEC. Gonna make for some great games for sure
@keving3982
@keving3982 Ай бұрын
Texas really does have a cupcake schedule. Don't even have to play Alabama. Roll tide!
@josephrenfro6071
@josephrenfro6071 Ай бұрын
@shawnd229 i dont think anyone disagrees that the sec has more nfl talent than any other league. What people argue about is how good those teams actually are. Having nfl talent doesnt always equate to a good team. We see this every year. And texas fans have lived this for 13 years. We have always had the most talented team in yhe b12. And we hardly ever won yhe league. Because we wernt the best team. Not sleeping on teams is a thing all p5 conferences have had to deal with. I believe its way easier to "get up" for a team. Than play down to one. Texas will have more relative success in the sec than big12. Just on the pure fact we have to get up for 90% of the games. Compared to the big12 when we only had 1. The proof of this is in our history. The last time texas was consistently a top 3 team was when the big 12 was stronger (arguably the best conference) we had more major rivalries and bigger programs in the conference. Texas was always #1 or #2. We atrophied over the last decade because we lost all of our rivalries and big time programs except one. Its much harder to get up to go play Kanas at 11am in Lawrence in November than it will be to get up to play any sec school (not including vandy)
@dezgarrett2790
@dezgarrett2790 Ай бұрын
​@keving3982 You could say Bama doesn't even have to play Texas....last I checked Texas has "scoreboard" on Bama....
@benbusse7208
@benbusse7208 Ай бұрын
Go Blue! You ain't us until you beat us. 3rd base 1-3 vs UM. LOL
@davidlibby480
@davidlibby480 Ай бұрын
Hey Josh, Oregon HAS been a playoff team
@connorgeoghagan4675
@connorgeoghagan4675 Ай бұрын
My only gripe is that Texas is at 5 and LSU is ahead of FSU? With on the field results being a basis for judging these programs LSU has lost to FSU both years? One was an utter blow out. And Texas has only had 1 good year?
@ZakMcDonald64
@ZakMcDonald64 Ай бұрын
LSU has a championship, 2 Heisman winners within the past 5 years. I think that says a lot about a program.
@connorgeoghagan4675
@connorgeoghagan4675 26 күн бұрын
@@ZakMcDonald64 True, but FSU beat their Heisman winner twice, and the other Heisman and championship team was a completely different program. I dont think it is fair to say that the current regime is responsible for those wins.
@brockcastleberry1154
@brockcastleberry1154 Ай бұрын
OU not being in the top 10 is ludicrous.
@wad9799
@wad9799 Ай бұрын
It’s current day. Not historical
@daniellooney8878
@daniellooney8878 Ай бұрын
@@wad9799 BS. 2 years after the program gutted by a snake. Just look at last 10 or 20 years. And there is an upward projection again.
@Homedep0
@Homedep0 Ай бұрын
@@wad9799 then why tf is Notre dame on there?
@brockcastleberry1154
@brockcastleberry1154 Ай бұрын
@@wad9799 okay then really.. ND?
@wad9799
@wad9799 Ай бұрын
@@brockcastleberry1154 they’ve been better than OU the last 3-4 years lmao. It’s not that complicated.
@tannerdodson7869
@tannerdodson7869 Ай бұрын
Very surprised that Ole Miss is not on this list.
@1337slic3
@1337slic3 Ай бұрын
They'll be up there next year.
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 Ай бұрын
#1 They aren't there yet #2 He has to hype the big alumni bases
@tannerdodson7869
@tannerdodson7869 Ай бұрын
@@greenwave819 I think that could be argued. Last 3 seasons are 10-2, 8-5, 11-2. We just came off yet another #1 ranked transfer portal class along with a top 5 high school Dline class, and have quality players and depth at nearly every position. I think Ole Miss is more worthy than some of the other teams on this list, but hey, it’s a computer models list.
@Whelmed.
@Whelmed. Ай бұрын
I would imagine the next four are probably some arrangement of Ole Miss, USC, Oklahoma, Penn State.
@rickrhoden1
@rickrhoden1 Ай бұрын
Don't be surprised, tanner, he ha--uh, dislikes Ole Miss.
@thomasrocco1402
@thomasrocco1402 Ай бұрын
Totally agree w the list. Last year I thought it was premature to put Michigan ahead of Ohio State because they didn’t do anything else but beat them where Ohio State has had success in playoffs. Now that they won the natty they are absolutely a better program. Until November when OsU throws them a beating
@MBlue-sk4tr
@MBlue-sk4tr Ай бұрын
I think OSU is going to bully Michigan in 2024. I could be wrong but I just don’t see Michigan with the changes going on and how much they’ve lost on their roster being able to stand up to OSU this season. I think 2025 should be interesting though. You’ll have a lot of guys at OSU who elected to come back leave (plenty of talent behind them though), and a lot of the younger guys at Michigan stepping up to the plate.
@mkwy8782
@mkwy8782 Ай бұрын
@@MBlue-sk4tr You don't understand Michigan football very well.
@cryptoproperties
@cryptoproperties Ай бұрын
Yeah OSU was going to throw them a beating last three years dream on. Cryin Ryan sucks.
@MBlue-sk4tr
@MBlue-sk4tr Ай бұрын
@@mkwy8782 Whatever helps get you through the day, friendo 🍻
@MBlue-sk4tr
@MBlue-sk4tr Ай бұрын
@@mkwy8782 I’m level-headed, and realistic. There are many things going against UM’s favor in 2024 in terms of The Game. While they can win, they lose significant pieces on both sides of the ball of their roster, but especially their offense, losing their QB, both starting receivers, RB 1, TE 2, and entire starting O-line. They lose their head coach, and a plethora of other coaches and support staff (won’t name them all but I’m sure you’re aware). OSU also brings ALOT back. The Game is in Columbus. Michigan winning is a massive uphill battle in 2024. Possible, but I say unlikely as of now.
@cacogenicist
@cacogenicist Ай бұрын
Oregon _has_ been a playoff team. This is the second time Pate has gotten that wrong.
@robert5755
@robert5755 Ай бұрын
well played in 2 natties in last10 yrs so true yeah
@josephhoward9016
@josephhoward9016 Ай бұрын
You wrong
@fromthefuture9353
@fromthefuture9353 Ай бұрын
JP. as always an excellent review but I have this nagging belief Nebraska is going to surprise in '24. Betting they will be at number 10 in your poll, but look out Clemson. The Big Red will be there with you at 10A...Rhule is going to work miracles in the next two years. Than they will be in the top 6....Be safe, JP
@timekeepermedia5142
@timekeepermedia5142 Ай бұрын
In regards to your opinion on Texas Football.. I definitely agree with your take in terms of needing to see consistent results year after to year.. That being said I'm not 100% sold on the idea that this staff is worse than last years. Bo Davis leaving hurt initially, but Kenny Baker is a pass rush specialist and we've has almost no real pass rush these past few years which was exploitable by good teams. Not only that, but Bo Davis isn't the best recruiter on earth and Baker seems to have great energy on the recruiting trail. We'll just call that hire TBD for now. Now, as much as I loved Choat and wish him luck at Nevada, Johnny Nansen is an upgrade. He has a real recruiting presence in California and helped Arizona have an amazing season last year with a win over OU in the Alamo bowl. I'm also not a fan of the blanket statement that this years success will be determined by how good the transfers end up being.. They were great additions but the strength of this team will be Offensive Line(no transfers), QB, and our defensive secondary(one transfer). These past few recruiting classes under Sark have been different than prior regimes and people are in for a rude awakening if they think this is going to be the same ole texas let down from years past. The speed and athleticism on this roster is ridiculous. Also, remember the name Ryan Wingo ;)
@jonathonedwardmiller
@jonathonedwardmiller Ай бұрын
Texas is on their way to being the #1 program. I'm not going to say they overtake Georgia.
@user-xp6qd4sk1j
@user-xp6qd4sk1j Ай бұрын
Didn't horns DLine just have TWO national award winners?
@rayhughes3243
@rayhughes3243 Ай бұрын
I don't believe Ohio state can make it through the playoffs, there coach does not impress me!
@nicholastaiariol2631
@nicholastaiariol2631 Ай бұрын
Nor does their QB room
@jojowhite9296
@jojowhite9296 Ай бұрын
You don't really impress me much either. That 70's hair look went out about 50 years ago!
@nicholastaiariol2631
@nicholastaiariol2631 Ай бұрын
⁠@@jojowhite9296will someone tell Ryan Day that patchy cuck beards were never in
@timmwynn8334
@timmwynn8334 Ай бұрын
Thank god your opinion is irrelevant
@svenkreuzberg2274
@svenkreuzberg2274 Ай бұрын
i have only 1 question ... where is Utah ? PAC 12 titles in 21 and 22 a thing The Irish never did coz they dont or wont play in a division outside of 1 Covid season. Utah over ND all day long ! Same with Texas, 5-7 and 8-5 seasons dont look like a Top Tier program or ?
@ronaldhambrecht
@ronaldhambrecht 20 күн бұрын
Notre Dame?? Ha ha ha.. seriously? They are a member of the pre season top 3 overrated every year… Miami, ND, USC
@BigMonty686
@BigMonty686 5 күн бұрын
How are they overrated? What’s their rating?
@Tenacioustoker420
@Tenacioustoker420 Ай бұрын
Norte Dame - haha
@matthewbragg9550
@matthewbragg9550 Ай бұрын
Ohio State won eight against Michigan Michigan has to win alot more against Ohio State to equal that you are wrong again Michigan won't even be in the top five
@Chicken-1515
@Chicken-1515 Ай бұрын
Keeping Receipts!
@anthonybyrne8894
@anthonybyrne8894 Ай бұрын
Michigan ahead of OSU right now is a garbage take. OSU is straight up gunning for the natty this year, Michigan isn’t. OSU retained most starter and improved their staff, as well as their roster. OSU is recruiting near the top as well for future success. Michigan lost most of their coaches, lost most players that had an impact and their recruiting is trash. Sure Michigan has had a better program the past 3 years (without including the thought of their cheating scandal) but between Michigan and OSU, OSU is and has been built for the long haul. Michigan was only built for a short run to crumble after.
@zackcox9842
@zackcox9842 Ай бұрын
You're salty.
@ryannelson2653
@ryannelson2653 Ай бұрын
Good job JP for placing UT correctly. We are clearly already a Top 5 program in the sport. Coach Sark is a Alpha!
@gandalftheghetto1172
@gandalftheghetto1172 Ай бұрын
Fluck NO
@connerb6431
@connerb6431 Ай бұрын
As a UGA fan I am surprised that Mizzou didn’t make the list towards the back end. They have really stepped up in the past couple years.
@Sooner4Life28
@Sooner4Life28 Ай бұрын
Texas has one good season and now they’re the number 5 team 😂😂😂 So basically all criteria stated at the beginning of the video was bs.
@daltonpalmer3897
@daltonpalmer3897 Ай бұрын
You’re literally only using 1 part of his criteria and that’s the on field results. But leaving out development and talent acquisition over the past 3-4 years and current state of the program
@Sooner4Life28
@Sooner4Life28 Ай бұрын
@@daltonpalmer3897 Just a little research and Oregon and Ole Miss should be higher than Texas on the list. Both have had better records over the last three years, both have been good to great in recruiting, the state of both programs are solid. The point is there’s a bias toward UT. The media has always had a bias towards them.
@daltonpalmer3897
@daltonpalmer3897 Ай бұрын
@@Sooner4Life28 bro Texas has out recruited both Ole miss and Oregon since 2021. Ole miss has only had 1 recruiting class in the top 20 since then. And they are built well for this year with all the transfer portal acquisitions but not for the upcoming years. So the only thing those 2 teams have that’s better is the records. I believe you should do some better research
@Sooner4Life28
@Sooner4Life28 Ай бұрын
@@daltonpalmer3897 so now who’s only using one category out of the four listed in the video. Talent development (NFL draft last three years ) Oregon 6 in 23, 1 in 22, 5 in 21; Ole Miss 4,6,2; Texas 5,0,5 In talent development Texas isn’t as good, record Texas isn’t as good, talent acquisition Texas as been good, state of program is subjective. NIL all three of these schools are good. I’m not saying Texas isn’t a good program but they are not top five.
@daltonpalmer3897
@daltonpalmer3897 Ай бұрын
@@Sooner4Life28 bud you’re leaving out the 12 longhorns players that are in the draft this year and how high they are projected to go. With multiple being top 5 in their positions with multiple at 1 or 2. But I referred to the talent acquisition because that was the topic you were referring to. And state of the program is also dependent on trajectory of the team and Texas has had the better 3 year trajectory and improved year to year where as Ole miss and Oregon have been good but haven’t been improving very much on a year to year basis. Did we have a bad first year under Sark? Yes but we went from 5-7 to 8-5 to 12-2 with a conference championship and playoff berth
@danieldille8676
@danieldille8676 Ай бұрын
Washington should be above Oregon and Texas the disrespect is unbelievable Washington is 2-0 over Texas and 3-0 over Oregon the last 2 years
@mikeworkman1759
@mikeworkman1759 Ай бұрын
Washington losing by a lot to Michigan TWICE in the last 3 years kills Washington's resume but I agree, on field wins should matter more.
@glenpark4373
@glenpark4373 Ай бұрын
Washington has no consistency and is a perennial mediocre team. They're basically good 1 year out of 4 and never maintain success long term. Don't forget that Oregon has dominated Washington for the most part the last 20 years. 2 years of squeaking by with 3 point wins against a head coach in his 1st and 2nd years isn't impressive, particularly given how much experience DeBoer has. UW is going to be this season's TCU.
@smiley3554
@smiley3554 Ай бұрын
@@glenpark4373 And Deboer just left. Josh even admits 2 years ago when Mario left he wouldnt have even considered Oregon in this ranking.
@markscott2135
@markscott2135 Ай бұрын
FSU has beat lsu two years in a row… and I’m way higher on fsu in the next 3 years than lsu
@James58Rams
@James58Rams Ай бұрын
Pate literally said the same thing about Mario when he was at Oregon.
@davesullivan4505
@davesullivan4505 Ай бұрын
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