It's kind of a shame that she felt the need to trace because she honestly has so much potential and talent as an artist.

There's a girl at my friends school who traced my friends work and put it in her PROFESSIONNAL PORTFOLIO. The school did not defend my friend. They said it was "taking inspiration from the universe they were working on", but said OC that was traced did NOT belong to the original comic they were working on and was entirely created by my friend. Awful behaviour. Don't trace.

Boothill's outfit is absolutely insane lol it makes no sense.

The fact they thought it was genAI because of how strange it was due to inconsistentcy when it turns out to be due to tracing parts 😂... but honestly, after the artist attitude, would not put past they traced genAI rather than used, as well

At this point I dunno whats worse between using AI to make the pictures or tracing because either way people would profit off of it

I love how the Boothill piece is literally just his official wish art LMAO i spotted that one almost instantly since 1) i have Boothill so I see it in battle 2) i am. Mildly obsessed with Boothill

I trace when studying someone's art style, but you will never see me posting them because I'm not proud of them, plus **they are literally traced**. it is a learning process not my final abilities. I have been doing art for a long time now and even went to school for it, but I still don't feel satisfied with myself so I keep studiyng until I'm proud

for me, it's the fact that she SOLD the traced pieces at art conventions. it's one thing to trace for practice or studies, it's another to publish it online (without credit) AND make prints for MONETARY GAIN. That's like, a whole new level.

i don't get why people trace other artists' work when free bases and 3d models are RIGHT THERE??

Honestly if I showed up early to a convention and got sold obviously inauthentic art I'd be pretty pissed, especially if I was a fan of the artist. Putting this person on blast for being angry & requesting a refund AND THEN HAVING THE AUDACITY TO OFFER REFUNDS WHEN PEOPLE FOUND OUT SHE TRACED is wild 💀💀💀

The worst thing about this was that she was going to go to Smash Con, Sydney, and I was legit going to BREAK BANK at her shop because her art was so pretty to look at - and then this WHOLE THING happened 😅

the fact they traced from an official art of boothill and boothill's outfit still looks uncanny 😭 they didnt even try to make the details right

Btw, the Furina and arlecchino pieces were sold as acrylic block in Dokomi at least, 40 euros each, traced pieces, not just the pgotocards :(. The prints weren't cheap either, she has profitted a lot of money with those traced artworks

Lately I’ve been seeing a lot of artists use AI art as a “reference” to make physical paintings on canvas, but they just paint in all the flaws and mistakes that the AI generator pushed out. It’s wild to see them get so offended and use “it can’t be AI, it’s on a physical canvas” as an excuse..

Omg. In my art group, we just outed a tracer. Everyone thought she was selling ai, but she was tracing it instead. It's a shame. She was talented but super rude and wasn't getting why tracing and selling it was wrong or even included it in their portfolio.

The whole depression route is quite the sight. Went on a whole ramble about how depressed they were they were caught. "I don't know how to tell my two dogs, who would always be so excited" This person acts like they can NEVER do art. As if its TRACE/AI or nothing at all. She had such a bad behaviour towards the person calling her out, thinking she was in the right. That is some major ego.🤨🤨🤨🤨

at this point, there could also be a possibility of both tracing and using AI. she can always trace and feed it to AI and ask AI to change or add certain bits to the drawing

To be honest I don't really get why she'd trace/use ai. She definitely does trace, but at the same time she could be using ai because like no matter what art style you use, or like how you render, there are many inconsistencies in her artwork, and they are all quite obvious. She has so much potential. Her way of drawing line art, and rendering is sharp yet beautiful. If she isn't good at anatomy, she should practice first! Anatomy is hard, perspective is hard, drawing side faces is hard, but it's not like it's impossible. And with her experience, I'm sure she could learn it all in a very short time. Hopefully she genuinely does change and instead of taking the easy route to things, she'll be able to learn and understand the actual feeling of drawing everything out of scratch instead of tracing.

Feels like every day someone else is getting accused / caught using AI or tracing :(

It's so infuriating that scammers and bad actors will just pop off but the honest and hard working artists are left in the dark and unseen.

Oh yeah and ai disturbance filters don't work anymore. i hate ai

Ok, so this might be a hot take, but I dont think that if you trace something as a study it has to be kept completely private. Especially as a beginner artist you can share it, you just have to credit the original artist and you can't monetize it in any way.

This makes me slightly uncomfortable as an artist. There is a good chance that it IS heavily referenced, there is a good chance that it’s traced. They should show their entire process, most definitely but I feel uncomfortable that everyone is just immediately jumping to the same conclusion… I use a lot of references, and it makes me uncomfortable someone might say I’m tracing if I use the same pose or head angle because I find a reference with angles I really like….

ngl this one is PARTIUCLARLY crazy....

Tracing ASK of all artists is so crazy to me... They're like one of the most popular anime-style artists right now

I've had to review a lot of portfolios recently, many of which were plagued with AI. I would say with utmost confidence that the artist here traced some key components, and *then* ran that through AI. The lack of logical continuity, the lost edges, and nonsensical details are dead giveaways. Double whammy!

I never knew online anime art community is so full of drama and scammers like this.

7:14 the ear is also weird as hell. In such angle, it should be drawn slightly otherwise?? Its strange to see such small, but silly mistake compared to the rest of art

Just wondering, have these AI witchhunts gotten to the point that people have swung back to the "if you're not making stuff out of thin air, it's fake art!" mindset? I use 3D models for posing/proportions and stuff, so it feels like they'll start coming after me sooner or later.

there are options on some AI generators where you can upload a reference image then change it with AI prompts. this is why it looks traced AND ai work. because it could be both traced and generated by ai

As an artist, I actually don't think the overlay part with makima and other one is 1:1 traced. I actually think it was referenced, but it's still VERY similar and she dhoulsve have credited the artist for the ref.

Honestly, people would definitely also accuse me of tracing AI (it did happen) but that's because I never learned how to correctly draw anatomy (too lazy to learn) so my pieces all look a little weird if u look very closely. I'm putting way too much detail in one part of the drawing and another part looks like dogwater😭

it is refreshing to see how yuerei is taking all the right steps in responsibility and accountability which may be the bare minimum but we dont see it often especially on such a large scale of refunds. i hope she grows from this.

If you're referancing a pose, how many variations to the og work can you possibly have? Especially in anime where everyone suffers from same face syndrome. Not defending her but curious

5:28 tbh I make the same mistake in the anatomy. It’s a pretty careless observation in my opinion. Just listening to all of the observations is kind of.. off putting (?) to me? But that’s just me ig..

200k followers, and they trace :/

This is a very weird version of the Streisand effect, where instead of trying to hide the alligations she herself made the email public (posted it onto her account), which then spiraled into her being exposed because of her posting about it and bringing attention to it in the first place, lmao

ai now can generate speedpaint drawing, i wonder what is exist for.😔

Broooo they were one of my favorite artist :/

The way the original tweet got 29 views and no one would’ve seen the email pointing out the tracing/possible AI use if yuerei never posted them to X to try to defend herself 💀 liars always out themselves in the end because they’re so paranoid of getting caught.

The pity baiting in the end truly is audacious of them

I just deleted all their works from my discord and blocked them on Twitter, shame I liked their work but I'm not about to support someone who uses AI AND traces ppl artwork. It's an insult to all artists including myself.

wait this is so shocking ive been following them on instagram since 2021, i wasn't very active interacting with their page cuz instagram doesn't show me posts of who im following a lot (unfortunately) but i also loved ask's art for years as well so this is quite disappointing to hear about. plus, the thing is, even if it wasn't traced and just heavily referenced, making profit off the heavily referenced art is really wrong. I remember yeu used to sell acrylic blocks which are quite expensive too.. im glad they ended up apologizing but ye i hope they come back a better person

DRAMATUBER DOESNT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRACING AND REFERENCE SHOCKER

I think we've already passed the point where it's faster to just train to be an actual artist than to learn how to disguise, that you're not an AI artist.

In the past, I’ve never followed anyone who got into dramas like these, so it’s a shame to think that someone I’ve followed for a while is guilty of this..

another google docs statement I've been studying other masters works and have been tracing and redrawing the poses of the artworks and it feels so wrong, I know it's hard to come up with poses and composition that is why I usually look for inspiration and redrawing the pose on my own and heavily avoiding tracing as what I have done in the beginning

Its not one to one. The nose, mouth, ears, eyes are different. Basically it looks like the artist used the art for the jaw, hair and general head size. It's still tracing but its not a one to one trace.

And that’s why kids, learn your fundamentals before getting into the business side of things. You won’t be artistically stable enough to keep up with people and the algo if you try to do both with shaky skills

This came at such a bad time for them too they were meant to attend Sydney Smash literally this weekend but have since pulled out

loving the meow sounds at the background~

duuuude, I understand all the frustration and resentment of mentioned artist, but......... is this really so, if you copy the pose and composition or pallet, then the rest of the work you did on YOUR piece with YOUR hands doesn't belong to you?! like. you did zero work??? you didn't render it? you didn't shade it???? THE FUCK D:< sketching and composing takes a lot of work (for me probably 20-30% of all work done), but complete originality is only the matter when it's work for sale or commission. anything you do for yourself and your enjoyment doesn't have to be 100% original and frankly speaking IT'S FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE. not mentioning the fact that referenced works simply looks better because you avoided mistakes and "looked up for the right answer". as a professional artist I highly despise all those talks about legit art and how you shouldn't take shortcuts in your process otherwise you "steal others efforts". it might be frustrating, but referencing will always be there in art community. you can't assign to yourself that 100% unique pose you just drawn or composition because there 100% same pose/composition somewhere on the internet and you've just reinvented the wheel. congratulations. again, not undermining the accusations from the video. just voicing my thoughts on "you can reference but you can't post it and actually you stole all the effort". also have a lot to say about tracing and what is not tracing but everyone decides for themselves here.

Seems like they may have used an AI to "complete" some images (extend beyond the edge of the illustration) among other things. Thats so disappointing. :[ Honestly, when people go to cons, make an effort to support traditional hand drawn art as a commission. Its soooo cool to have a piece of physical art and you have a very low chance of getting scammed with a physical piece of art!

I used to FOLLOW THEM omg they were such a big inspiration for drawing modern outfits for genshin characters also follow ASK I love making art studies of her art style

in every other creative facets, this would be fine. artists just love playing the victim, and feeling like victims.

As someone who studied an anatomy book for years just to be able to draw people in poses, this is not fair.

I dont know of her but she clearly has potential and I hope that she is able to learn and reflect from this. I took art in college and I was amazed at how much my classmates improved their drawing skills in 2 years (we compared what we drew at the beginning to the end). We actually drew live models and it really helped with understanding anatomy

13:21 ... im sorry.. that is not 1:1 ... i dont know both artists and its the first video i see of u today. For me this seems like someone trying to push drama for their own benefit.. i do have experience drawing and this is... not called a 1:1 .. a 1:1 copy looks different

I wouldn't care about referencing her sources if she was just uploading her art, but since she's making money off of the art, she's not only stealing from other artists, but lying about her skills to her customers.

Tbh I find the Ai-witchhunt getting kinda extreme. Its like artists are not allowed to make mistakes anymore and everyone needs to make everything 100% correct. So many artists just draw for fun and dont care if things are not 100% correct or illogical.

It's weird how tracers only feel bad about tracing when they get caught 🤔

i wouldnt say its tracing, but it is copying

As a non-artist who has used Midjourney to generate art of characters (overwatch, genshin) the first 5/6 examples are 100% AI generated. I would even go on to say they are AI generated and then she traces the parts (hands, faces, some clothes) where it gets "muddy" and confusing before beginning her timelapse.

Another day another twitter tracing scandal

I'm honestly very dissapointed in Yeurei.. she was one of my biggest inspirations in my artwork and merch wise... that's a shame.

wait what if she traces other artworks for the face and then uses AI applications to finish the rest of the body/clothes… like the arlecchino piece with traced face and weird AI looking clothes

I’m honestly so disappointed in yeurei. She was actually one of the artists I look up to because it’s so hard to make art into a career in Singapore but she somehow did it. When I went to cons, I’d look for her booth. Now, it’s so sad to see one of my inspirations tracing…and FROM ASK??? I’m really disappointed.

Ai art is stupid why do people use it???

A couple things I'll disagree with. "Artists are lazy" in reference to adding more detail than needed... nah. Also it's 100% possible to get a 1 to 1 of something just by referencing it, the whole upside down picasso thing as a precursor to other practices to help with that. That being said this artist absolutely engaging in unsavory activities.

I gonna say this rn Anime art is very similar, you cannot accusse an anime artist without further prove Im not an anime artist myself, im a semi realistic one But from my experience of following anime artists, they seem to all look the same Im not defending art tracers but with anime art it's hard to tell

Hmmm. Interesting. Didn't like the art because it was AI, not because they didn't like the art - or did they just realize that they paid way too much for something of dubious value, AI or not?

It’s really unfortunate. i waited in line for 20-30 minutes to pick up one of her Dan Heng acrylic stand blocks for a friend who was stuck in Exhibit Hall and she seemed really sweet and genuine so i followed her page shortly after the purchase😪 The girl has talent, i just wish she hadn’t turned to tracing. She was one of the few artists who had a line to her table every single day at all hours of the con.

oh man, something i noticed is that it's interesting how you can be accused of using AI for having really good art, but then also the flipside, with having... confusing art?

Tracing over a generic pose? Are you kidding me? What if she had used a 3d model from a software instead and tracing that to get the pose? I mean get serious people, the accusations are laughable 🤣🤣🤣. Artists use references all the time.

To be fair - I can reference to the point it is a near 1:1 trace. Not traced but so accurate the lines match up exactly for about 85% of the entire drawing. Might actually film myself doing this some day and just overlay it afterwards. That said, this is certainly tracing

"Tracing is never ok" "never post your art studies" and the idea that "bad art"=AI. NO! These are all horrible pieces of advice! Tracing for a general figure or pose, without keeping any of your references original composition is an extremely valuable tool for artists who are trying to learn. And the idea of not posting art studies and sketches, or that all "bad art" is coming from AI, is only perpetuating the toxic cycle of art gatekeeping, and invalidating any artists who have "bad" or "unfinished " art. Instead the argument should be to not trace every detail of a piece, but to use tracing as a tool to assist with composition pieces that you struggle with, (ie; tracing a hand into your work, or using a model to create a rough sketch of your figure's pose, tracing the complex and intricate details of a character's outfit, etc), and to clearly mark or state when you are copying another artists work as an art study on that particular artist (obviously give credit to the original.). There is no "right" or "wrong" way to make art, (unless you are stealing someone else's hard work and saying its your own, but that's theft, not art), but there are ethical ways of incorporating other people's work in your own.

I know that the artist admitted to tracing, that being said I don't think this is enough to say if someone is tracing. And yes, I do draw. Most of the evidence for the tracing is that the face lineart is similar to another artist, seems mostly a specific one in this case. It is possible for someone to create similar line placement, even by pure accident, by following the rules of anatomy. If two people have overlapping drawings to an extent it does not automatically equal tracing. There is plenty of random drawings you can put together and they will overlap. Just google any anime + pose idea and there will be many results that come across as really similar, even more than what this artist did. Honestly accusation nowadays are going into two buckets: good anatomy but weird details = must have used AI, worse anatomy but details are consistent = tracing. The only thing I know for sure that this artist is guilty of is that they are bad at anatomy and they should go back to the drawing board.

13:32 I don't think this was traced though? the lines don't perfectly match at all, it normally does with traced work. It is actually possible to overly reference things, I've done it before when I wanted something to be just right. Sometimes your artist eye back fires on you and referencing can turn into copying lol. It's the same as a artistic forgery, they don't trace paintings man but they can get super close with their own ability to the original. Am I saying it's right? dependable on the situation, but please don't say this is tracing if not 100% confirmed. 14:22 Forgery, not tracing. Though not a complete Forgery since they made the art their own. Glad they know now, not to reference just one artist though if they are struggling with a pose lol. 15:31 yeah and we don't know if they drew directly over it. I do however feel like some of the works they did was too close to AI, but yee. 15:55 Fully agree, if you do post it for whatever reason, maybe to show your progress from tracing to doing pieces completely yourself. Put in big bold letters over the traced work that it's traced work next to work you've finally done on your own. The down side of this though, people might question your none traced art then, because that's the internet. But I like showing growth, so idk. Post at your own risk even when being flat out honest. 17:44 I still don't think it's traced, but now I'm heavy leaning on it being AI, I haven't tested this to confirm my sus, but in Krita there is a way to AI art, and use poses as 'references' normally it's some stick figure software though that I've seen. I wonder if you can take a drawing though (or photo) and make that as the pose reference, and make a completely new render of whatever you want using that pose. Because since some elements feel like AI in the art, it would then make sense why the lines don't completely line up like with tracing. I hope I'm explaining this right. I wish they'd show a WIP video, because that's the best way to clear their name lol. Otherwise they are so fake. With the AI software, it's SUPER easy to change parts of a pose "flawlessly" but you can still miss the errors if you don't have the eye to notice them. 27:50 Least they are owning their mistakes, whatever those mistakes really were be it AI, tracing, Forgery, doesn't matter they still did a wrong, so I'm glad they are offering to refund those that were wronged. Now I hope this isn't all fluff and they REALLY are refunding people. Edit: saw some typos so tried to fix them, if still errors welp XD

As an artist who has to, “work through the ugly sketches” watching people trace really grosses me out. Makes me think twice about following a page before I can really be forsure their art is of their own thoughts. I see one on KZfaq who particularly gets under my skin because she uploads premade assets, like jewels. masks them to fit an eye shape ,and change the hue with some highlights and calls it rendering. So it’s not just outlines anymore. People are faking to be good at rendering, when really what they are doing is more like graphic design. Taking premade assets to make a new image

if you cheated once, no body will trust you again.

This one caught me off guard cause they’re so good and clearly knows how to draw good anatomy but just… chose to trace. They also seem to only trace the face angles mostly, and they totally could’ve just used 3d models, it’s so baffling. I really really like their art too, it’s a shame

Ngl I'm baffled how these people were able to find all these artworks she traced from Like did she trace really popular pieces or are people just chronically online 😂

thats crazy bc i bought art from her at dokomi and the amount of people queueing for her was huge. she made big income i can tell by the amount of customers and instant sold outs she had

i don't know why, but this makes me feel relieved somehow?? maybe i just miss when artists used to say "it's traced" instead of "it's ai"

But like what I don’t understand is why take so much time tracing when you can use that time to learn instead??

It’s crazy how much being able to render well can cover up lack of skill. All the art looks good on first glance, but that’s the issue. Anyone who’s looking to buy a cool print at a con is likely only going to look for a little bit. It’s only after they get home and have more time to look that they might notice. Really sucks this has been happening so often.

they rlly didnt have to emotional dump, it’s unprofessional and just make ppl think u want ppl to pity u

FIANLLY THE TALK ABOUT TRACING VS REFERENCEING. IM SEEING ARTISTS ONLINE SAY TRACING IS OK ?

i dislike when people read the comments from random trolls/non-artist people about others artist works... i think it should be an artist only topic because random people most of the time, only spits hate and creates a hatred wave reaction over others artist, and some "youtubers" or "influencers" that remarks those comments, looks like idiots tbh

I notice the artists style is... too complex for my eyes. So it's hard to see the individual hands, earrings, and things. I stick to more simple styles... but I have mixed feelings and still improving.

Tragic really. She has so much potential and talent and she chooses to stifle it by tracing her art and selling it. I saw her booth at AX and almost bought her Nilou print. Her stuff really is pretty in person. But knowing what I know now, I'm glad I didn't buy anything. I only hope she's able to reflect and grow on this as an artist and person. She has to build her rep back up again and it really isn't going to be easy after something like this.

Nothing is more disappointing to find out your favorite artist who you possibly look up to is stealing, tracing or using ai for their work :/

Yeurei looking at Ask's art: "you're just ASKing to be traced"

While tracing is a common and widely used artistic technique, when you are going to profit from it (whether monetarily or even socially) it should only be used with copyright free images, images you have bought the copyrights to, or ones you’ve been given explicit, written permission to use in this fashion.

fun fact, if you look correctly @ specifically 6:36 , she's not just holding the frame, but got a finger through the lens as well when lifting them, maybe that was the intended pose even if the tracing part can't rlly be defended and if anything, probably A.I. too lot of clashing details not making sense here

ur right about everything but no, it’s not a 1 to 1 overlay. if it were 1:1, the drawing would look more anatomically correct.

At this point, you should even believe these ppl when they decided to put what was a private matter between artist and client, on blast bec their feelings got hurt. Artist should have handled it like a professional and worked it out behind the scene but no they decide to go to twitter, which makes it even more believable that they using ai.

I'm listening in 14 minutes, and already I disagree with about 80% of the critiques and analysis. Everyone suddenly became an expert because Ai exists... If everyone spent more time practicing instead of accusing artist of Ai or Tracing, maybe their art will be better. There is a lot to unpack. But I just gotta say, it definitely was referenced and not a direct tracing. Stop with the pitchforks. when I saw the overlays. It's not traced. I respect her craft, and would encourage anyone to do the same. Even famous manga artist will use classic paintings for reference and inspiration. As long as it's transformative and altered enough, I feel it's fine. It's not line for line. It can appear to line up, but unless it's 99% it's not traced. Look again. The complex details that have been added is more than enough to warrant being called an original, that had inspiration. It's not at all required to credit or detail all of your references used. The line that extends beyond the collar bone?? Really? The hand? The lack of anatomy? This may be a result of random design, or Ai, but it's not definitive. Going down this route and we can all witch hunt everyone for using AI. People look at my stuff from 8 years ago and acuse me of AI, it's flattering, but more over, it's boring. I hate watching the mob crowd around to see the bonfire they created. There are some valid points, and there are some people who definitely need to be called out, but in this case, It's not. She referenced the angle and pose, but this compromise of only 2% of the final product. This one act overshadowed all the hard work she put into her art and craft. Do you really think a tracer can pull off this finish?

4:55 the hair looks also ai generated On the lest bottom corner we have stoke of hair that diesnt look like it belonged to the main pile of hair (sry if it doesnt sound right still learning english)

This does not look traced to me. She heavily referenced the base pose of the artwork but even then the base pose is not 1:1 if you slow down the video and look carefully side by side (not the overlay, its not clear and misleading). The changes made are drastic, enough for it to be a separate work itself rather than a traced work. We will run out of good framing and pose combination eventually if we deem it tracing and wrong.