What happened???

yay I wasn’t able to watch the other one :)

I was about to say deju va

​@Jennifer Brigitte it got age restricted

Waaaaaaat?!

Not to mention that Micah is engaged to someone with the same name as her father? Interesting.

@@awesomepossome96 Maybe this is the season I actually start watching the show cuz WHAT?!

LMAO

I dated a guy like that once, and I can't describe how unsettling it was when I realized it. 😂

@@XavierVB im ngl season 2 and 3 are also equally weird

Too much time being a mean girl instead of trying to keep a connection.

Right?! I think the only reason Zack was interested in Irina was because he thought she'd be a hot, Russian, model, or something. Ooop, jump scare (inside and out).

@@bf3071 😄😄 Completely agree

Exactly!!!! She didn’t really want Zac. She just wanted Bliss to “lose”. Irina loved seeing the other women cry. It’s was disturbing

@@bf3071 I also think that it was unhealed trauma for him. He said that he knew that she was immature and manipulative and had the capacity to be vicious, but yet he trusted her? No. He was used to chaos, he trusted chaos. Bliss was stability. When Bliss told him that he deserves more, he couldn’t take it.

and the second thing you're doing is sending Kenny everything

Yeah he's imprinting on her like that cuz of his mum

Yeeeeep! That's exactly wut I was thinking

reading this comment after watching jackelina and marshall's fight

after openly saying he notices she plays games and can be vandictive. you can't feel bad for him

@@happywings15 That was the part that killed me. He clocked how she operates and chose her OVER THE PERSON WHO CALLED A TRUCE FOR HIM (and who told him you'll reap what you sow/will reveal your ability to gauge a person's character if you choose her)!

It's where I started loving Chelsea. At first I wasn't sure if she gave me season 1 'that drunk blonde with constant wine stains on her lips'. But after she said that to Irina I was like giiiirllll.... I see you... You're so cool.

It

Yeah! she looks so below average and try so hard to play the mean hot girl! she needs therapy or she will end up miserable and lonely single mom.

That killed me😂😂😂😂.

She has the best one-liners about people lol

😂

And Jackie turned out to be the worst peasant of all. She's trifling and toxic.

I’m having feelings that Irina likes getting things/people that “belong” to others. She wanted Zach because Bliss wanted him too, now she wants Paul because he’s with Micah. She seems like a very insecure person who needs the ego boost when someone chooses her over another woman.

They look so different lol

​@@nope748 No they really don't.

I didn’t realize they were different people until episode 3

I've been saying the same thing. I know they don't look identical, but to be grossed out by one and attracted to the other based on looks is wild. I think Irina just likes men who are taken, but not by her.

Me too. the audacity. Then bliss didn't tell that.

And she said she wasn’t even baking anything so I’m more concerned about what she was gonna do with that candle…

@@Peanut_taco_muffin Give him JUST the candle 🤣🤣

complete bartiste vibes, down to the imaginary love triangle u make with someone who's already taken and never chose u

I can’t believe they got married

I mean they’ve been married for over a year and they legit seem happy, so it’s very possible Netflix gave them an arc that made it look worse than it was

Same but can I also say how much life it gives bullied little child inner me to see the deservedly negative feedback those two are getting from everyone and how they also end up miserable by their own actions. Makes me see some hope even if it's a vengeful way of thinking, but I ain't healed enough to feel differently yet.

@@SYENU7313 I have a theory about that. I think Karen's are made when people don't bend the rules for them. Growing up they were pretty, popular, everything was easy for them. They think they deserve to have life handed to them because they got away with so much in school. They were told how they were destined to have an attractive husband and a big house just by virtue of their beauty. Things were supposed to be differnt for them. As you get older though people grow to have a very low tolerance for childish bullshit and so when they stopped getting special treatment they double down and as a result we have Karen's.

I'm a very nonconfrontational person but I would have started swinging

@@Sleipnirseight I would trample them the way a horse does to a snake

​@@trashpanda3544 well... perhaps NOONE should get that kind of special treatment where you (as a kid) are told and shown over and over again that you are going to get away with whatever you do. Kids are supposed to learn how to be adults. FUNCTIONING adults. A twenty/thirty/whatever yo person should not have an overgrown temper tantrum just because their coupon is just not valid anymore. Make kids realize that there are consequences for their actions, so that when they become adults they will be better.

Who knew that would be possible?

Wait wait wait!! Who faked tears??? 😳

​@@Eionnah It was in the previous season. He didn't have much presence bc the guy wasn't picked by anyone but dude was giving Diet NBC Hannibal the whole time. The tears thing was during testimonials where he literally put eye drops to make it seem like he was crying and thought they were gonna cut it out in post. The guy's name evaded me but his behaviour was very uncanny.

I really thought those eye drops were for medicinal purposes 😂😂😂. It took me way too long to realise he was faking tears 🙈

yes, andrew! lmaoo that was insane. Honestly would like to see him on a season just to stir up some nonsense.

😂

LMAO no way I missed that

I mean you never know just by someone’s voice. I am mixed and I have been told I “sound white”. I did think that part was funny tho 😂

YES!! I was like stfu sir 😂😂🤭

@@yourmotherhatesyou641 are you mixed with white? Lol cause if so theyd still be technically half right.

Yess at the exact moment she said that I felt the vibe that this was gonna go bad

It’s giving Shane Dawson

@@dunemae literally he's the poster child for that

Cue her laughing at a woman's pain

Lol facts😂

LITERALLY. I love their friendship ❤️😂

Honestly I would pick a homie over marrying someone I knew for less than a month.

It's a bromance, love it; and probably the only relationship worth surviving this messy season.

They totally bonded. Loved to see it in a reality show.

at least it ended great for him

@@moatrboat Yeah. I really liked him, despite the "off" vibes that some were getting, and wish he and Bliss didn't have to go through that bs just to end up together after all, but I am glad they are happy!

Yea it was unenjoyable to watch

The way they laughed at girls crying and manipulated guys into dumping the other girls they were seeing.... It's almost unbelievable villain behavior to a point i wonder if they do it on purpose to be talked about on TV

Definitely felt like Micah and Irina went on the show to live out their high school mean girl fantasies.

Man did you see Micahs 2 best friends. Especially the blond one with tons of makeup. Did you see how she reacted and treated Paul. Tells me a lot if you keep friends like that around

Thank God they are white women....there is always this projection on media that black women are angry, uncouth, and catty. So to see that such behaviour happens in EVERY race is nice to see. Bad behaviour is common in every group and not limited to one. These two ladies acted poorly especially TOWARDS other women. Women are usually the ones who oppress their fellow women, but no one talks about it and hides behind feminism. If we promote more of humanism where we treat people well regardless of whatever, the world will become more of a better place to live.

I thought Zach was pretty funny. He may not be "smooth" or whatever it is these shallow 20-somethings look for, but he's smart and quick-witted. ETA: it's giving "eww, he's so creepy/weird" mean girl high school vibes. Something they would say about a guy that's socially awkward, smart, nerdy, or not like them. That's not a mature adult reaction to someone that's just different from you.

I just wonder if it’s “vibes” that can’t pass through camera

thats how i felt aswell!!

Agree.

When I was watching with my GF I literally said "I know I neurospicy when I see one" 😂

She's "pretty" to them I guess. Men will ignore a terrible personality for looks ig.

​​​@@katgreer6113 They can't see each other until they propose, that means that Zach and Paul initially picked them for their personalities. Which makes it all so much worse.😂

@@RareAsTheGlimmerOfAComet yes I mean after words they didn't dumo them...weird.

@@RareAsTheGlimmerOfAComet to be fair to them, Micah and irina showed their best selves in the pods

@@__L__837yeah people act like they present their mean girl personas 24/7, like obviously when they’re in the pods absent the presence of other guys/girls they don’t have anyone to lash out toward. People can have good personalities in a vacuum and then turn into complete hags when there’s someone to bully.

Right. I fumed at that

The fact that right after Chelsea asked Micah wanted a power trip of I can take your man at any time or he's yours but he's really mine pissed me off. Kwame allowed Micah to humiliate her and got angry at the wrong thing. He didn't get her the shot, but he took it with her and only got mad at her once she mentioned the proposal, not because of any of her terrible behaviors.

Paul was distracted by Irina

And Chelsea is so sweet she don’t deserve dat 😩

​@@alexjones8130 True.

They act like “bombshells”. As soon as Micah heard Kwame and Chelsea are getting closer she went harder on him. Then saw Amber was happy and went him on Paul

Agreed!! They’d be better off going on Love Island… but I doubt they would even make the cut lol

that's why I cannot wait for these two toxic titans to fight for Paul, just to fight for A MAN and watch the mean girls duo self-destruction

She also didn’t even like Paul that much when she met him in person until Irina said he was cute… these girls need to grow up

Watching them was like watching Regina George.

Omg 😮 and that bitch turns around and ask for a candle too!! 😡

Who makes grilled cheese with eggs?

@@spaghettibeans8707 a spiteful mean girl who’ll do whatever she can to fuck with other people

@@spaghettibeans8707 😭😭😭😭😭 I honestly don’t know

Many dip the bread in the egg to make it golden.

I said the same thing. Please don’t cast anymore ppl in their 20s. The world is changing ppl aren’t ready to marry until 30s

Part of me wants this so badly but another part of me is paranoid that Netflix would end up casting the worst people who are immature and messy even at that big age and it'll have me lose even more hope 😂

Agreed! They should go for 30+ only so we don't need to suffer all these 25 year olds somehow still in their high school mean girl phase.

OMG yes they're so cute. I love both of them so much. 😊

They’ll never last. He is too good looking to stay loyal after getting “famous”

Mean girls are super good at manipulating ppl who have never dealt with mean highschool girls personally. For me I'd be able to spot what she was doing from a mile away, but I get Zach just taking her at her word.

Me too. I still don’t like the way he talks to Bliss

TBH he deserves her because why would you pick the mean girl

@@trianenopenottrian9108 But to be real, how is this different than saying a woman deserves her abuser because she picked him. I'm never going to blame someone for trusting a person.

@@kells4315 yeah I also have some sympathy for him. The guy clearly had a difficult childhood (to put it mildly) and one kinda can’t blame him for being taken in by a manipulator. Perhaps he’s not a great judge of character, but many survivors or childhood trauma aren’t.

catty women don't like other women, they're more devoted to men, that's why men like them, sigh

Unresolved trauma

people want what they cannot have.

@@elfsi1 neither of the women liked the men though lmao-

Yes on #2! That’s exactly what I told my friends 😂

Thank you!!! I couldn’t figure out who else he looked like besides Jesse Williams

2 is scarily accurate 💀💀

Ha, I told my friend I thought he looked like Anthony Mackie and she said nah, he looks like Jesse Williams 😂

I’ve been saying he’s a mix of Jessie Williams and the rapper Bow Wow!

Ok, that's too cute, I can't go on with my day without knowing how does this flower look 🧍‍♀️

Would love to know as well!

@@ladykynthos it's a poppy and the source for this is C. F. Bürgers language of flowers, which is an original german source from 1872

@@bluestpaw4355 Thank you! 💖

Also I think her saying her family might not approve of him was a trigger, because his past gf's family didn't approve of him and that obviously bothered him.

the problem is that he is a lawyer lol the last thing you want is an impulsive lawyer to represent you!

Personally i didn't read it as if it was his ego but it's like..when she said that he took it the wrong way? He didn't have as much Irina info as all of us do, it's hard to imagine they'd bring someone so toxic to the show even for ME as a viewer, I don't think he imagined Bliss was very much REAL saying what she did and he might have taken it the other way around as if Bliss was the one trying to manipulate him. Whole Irina was probably the one doing that reassuring him and "making him feel special" and Shiz like he said "she's the one I trust the most". Granted, i was mad as HECK when he chose her but when he quickly saw her colors on the honeymoon I just... Idk I guess i understood him. I feel that was when it started to dawn on him that Bliss was right (or at least I hope so)

I thought that Bliss making those comments about Irina made Zach think SHE was the catty one when really it was a genuine warning considering she saw the real her rather than the best parts of her that she was showing to Zach while in the pods.

Honestly when he couldn't choose between either of them, I no longer cared for him and wanted Bliss to let him go and just let him have Irina. Both strike me as not being great people and Bliss deserves better.

Literally what I was thinking

NO LITERALLY. His laugh reminds me of what a nutcracker would sound like if it could laugh

Finally a comment about this, because it irritates me

It's just fake

I was never able to put it into words 😂 but this his laugh exactly

Well said 👌🏽

There's literally zero evidence to point that Zack is as superficial as you frame him. The man messed up BIG TIME, for sure but the way more reasonable and realistic explanation is that he felt for Irina being 'judged' by Bliss, just like his mother was judged. Couple that with the fact that he literally cried over how his previous girlfriend's parents judged him for his upbringing and Bliss said his parents might not like him. Like it's one thing to dislike Zack and him not being your cup of tea but it's a whole other thing to project something like that on him.

​@@nope748it also looks like she acted extensively different in the pods to get the proposal. The man can only do so much. I'm guessing he's a little love starved so he went after the one that love-bombed him. As opposed to the girl that would be real with him when warranted, it seems like he read anything that wasn't excessive affection as bad. Bliss wouldn't lie about it being possible that her family wouldnt like his upbringing, she faced it to talk it through though, knowing he needed the truth and it might end it. High character trait and he absolutely missed it in the moment. His relationship with his Mom is informing everything that went on here. Forgive her, man, work out the trauma!

@@CaBobProductions Completely agree!

​@@nope748 You may be right about the judgment element, however, in the subsequent episodes (not covered by Kennie in this video), he outright says that Bliss "doesn't look like how she sounds". He probably heard that Irina was Russian and assumed she was the hotter of the two. Men aren't that complicated, let's be honest. And several things can be true at once. I also think his rocky relationship with his mum made Irina's chaotic energy a familiar feeling, which is why he picked her, despite the knowledge that she's "vicious" (his word). He likely needs therapy. I worry that Bliss is too evolved and mature for him.

Stop 😭😭😭😭

😂😂😭😭 I can’t.

THAT'S who she looks like! 😭

she's so real for that

Lost in sauce... But aren't we all?

He dodged a bullet with this season 😅

He really did! Cause Jackie said he was one of her choices VERY early into the show and THANK GODDDDD that’s as far as it went 😂

He must have some fun stories to share 😆

Yep, for sure!!! 💯💯💯💯

I completely agree but paul did the same thing! he literally said his flight or flight kicked in when Kwame was vocal about liking Micah and the conversation right after was when they decided to cut things off with other people

Yeah

I felt her anxiety through the phone from when she realised through to her apology.

I laughed so hard dude

I will say, when i heard they're in the pods for 8 + hours with each other and wine drunk, i get why she fell asleep

I think she suffers from narcolepsy. Netflix put a video about her explaining how she falls asleep too often than regular people.

@@krossbonnez That's honestly what I thought!

I totally agree. He seems like such a kind person but instead of a wife he needs a therapist.

Me too

After this season I lost hope for "older" folks to be more adult or less messy TBH. It WOULD be cool though, don't get me wrong, but just if Netflix fixes its process in choosing people

Ooh yes

Boring

Bliss was dead on when she said told Zach she questioned his logic for liking Irina. How he kept saying how much he trusted Irina...omg. I was screaming at my TV. We all make mistakes, but damn. He's a defense attorney, he should have been able to cut through the bullshit, but I think he really ignored his gut...always a bad move.

Consider Irina's persona on TV (idk her in real life i can say anything about it), i wouldn't be surprised if she manipulated him into thinking he's soo special, soooo loved, like the narcissistic behavior of bringing someone in then kicking them out. When he said he picked her cause she made him feel special i was like...huummmmm But anyways I'm glad they broke things off pretty quickly. Bliss is such an amazing woman

Why u say irina prob reminds him of his mother?😂

@@Hokie5Libra82 I think Defense attorney's are generally misunderstood and also misrepresented on TV. They don't really need to have the skills to find the truth since their job is mostly to make sure the prosecution team followed all the rules they are supposed to in accusing/charging someone, and their client gets the best representation possible against possible miscarriages of justice. So it doesn't surprise me that he tries to see the best in people, it's probably what motivates him to help his clients.

Yeah I think him being a defense lawyer and giving people the benefit of the doubt was the reason. Also, he might have had a “I can fix her” moment when he thought he had heard tiny crumbs of vulnerability from her.

"He's just like me fr" 😂

I never thought about that. All the women know Irina and Bliss, for Zach to choose irina over bliss probably made them think that he’s just as messy as her so they probably take his non-malicious awkwardness a lot more hostile than it is

It's a red flag for us girls that he led with the mum being a.. Worker story and that no one accepts him because of his past. It screams unresolved mommy issues.

@@JaZmine147 it’s red flag you use the term mommy issues tbh. I’m with Kenny, he did it to weed out the red flags.

@@JessieP07 It's a red flag that I have enough insight to translate specific behaviors. Mmmhmmm ok don't date me, babe.

​@@JessieP07 totally agree. He had less then a month to find someone who wouldn't judge him

She told him she fell for him then dumped him for Paul on the next day, it's insanity

And he’s a idiot eating it up every time. Like he needs to get his brain to work

She just liked knowing she could take him from Chelsea but once she had confirmation from Paul that he would pick her she didn't need to hold on to Kwame anymore.

@@romanticblossom yes absolutely mad.

@@ashleybow correct. Irina did the same thing to Zack by bad mouthing Bliss with him. Zack didn't like that. Then Bliss came in and told him what she felt abt Irina WHICH WAS VALID. But he didn't like the fact that she would judge him based on how he would choose. Hoss everyone does that! I was definitely looking at you different if u chose her over me, knowing what I know about her. And now u want to see me? Nahhhhhhhhh Irina just wanted to win over Bliss. That's all

Same. I liked Zach! I thought he was funny and I like goofy funny guys. Guys that try to be smooth/suave are an immediate turn off for me.

I think Irina started the rumor of him being creepy among the women and his sense of humor didn't help... she is a high school mentality in a body of an ugly woman!

Probably because he talks over other people and projects his own insecurities onto them. I still don’t like his ass lol

Yeah; I can see getting off vibes from him but what they did in some scenes was straight shit-talking. If you don’t like him don’t talk to him and move on!

Over talking is a trait of neurodivergency. Not to diagnose Zack, but considering his other traits that come off a bit socially awkward, it’s entirely possible he’s on the neurodivergent spectrum somewhere. For the most part I find Zack fairly genuine. Not perfect, but there are no issues I have seen that are intentionally mean spirited.

amen amen?!

Same - reeeeplaay... just cuz it's that good LOL

You can watch 0.5 seconds and it counts as a view lol

It's her income lol bfr she works hard ofc but suffer??

Well said!! Kennie, we give you flowers for being a trooper watching these shows and giving us tea! It makes our day!

Kwame especially 🙁🙄

I get what you’re saying I see it a lot with kwame. Marshall I think it’s less intentional, he comes off like someone who has a hard time being taken seriously so he’s a bit dramatic with his confrontations but that’s just me

@Ari Cons I feel like maybe they have seen one too many romance movies lol. Just the way they talk. Gianina (not sure how to spell her name) as the same. It felt so unnatural.

Marshall is so cringe

He was so drunk i was cringing for him.

worst part is that it somehow worked😭

💯‼️🙏🏽

OMG YES LMAO SAME HERE 😭😭😭

And the wisteria tree bridge where they meet for the first time is so romantic!! My jaw dropped when I saw it 😭

Drama is good TV in producer's minds unfortunately.

But we like trash 🗑

Sounds hella boring

i loved the japanese version, i hope they make a second season

Lmaooo

It's for continuity so that when they edit we don't see how much is in the glasses.

@@Amanda-yr6iv that’s smart. when they filmed chelsea with kwame and her dad i kept focusing jt on how their plates were empty one scene and full the next lol

It's 2023. You still don't understand how reality TV works? As a comment above me already mentioned it's for editing purposes.

@@JaZmine147 If it was already mentioned what's the point of being condescending? OP truly didn't know not everyone watches reality TV like that, why be mean :/

This! Instead homegirl is using Marshall as her confidant and punching bag all at the same time. I don't like how she nicknamed him some her duma$$ or whatever she called him. He's clearly not her type physically and she used every excuse in the book to avoid being physical or intimate with him yet calls the man out for not being more aggressive or wanting sex. Bish whet? Just go back to your baller type emotionally abusive men or leave poor Marshall alone and work on yourself.

Yess she needs therapy nobody is really mentioning it but Jackie is also very fake

@@VV-yj5qc exactly, the way she threw Chelsea under the bus and fed on the drama threw me off! like girl bye, two faced mean girls are the worst

@@altheab4375 LITERALLY! She wants the toxic mess probably because she doesn’t think she deserves real love and Marshall is literally the sweetest guy and is willing to do that. But if she ain’t willing to actually work on herself then there’s no hope

@@shoyahtia1316 sad that ride or die mentality is devastating. No role models for a good man.

She liked the challenge to fill her ego. She knew she had Kwame but saw Paul preferring the other girl and wanted the power over both of them.

stoooooppp I would LIVE

kennie ranks the astrology signs

We already know what she thinks

@@Gtree43 i dont

She did that on Twitter a few months ago

Agreed

She was?

Wait rlly?

Yes! I went crazy when I saw our girl in the promo ❤

Wait what? 👀 can anyone gimme the link of that?

I’ll say it again: they should have paid her. Or something cuz what the hell, they didn’t even ask 💀

Just started episode 10... ugh Jackelina is pretty awful. She just wants to go behind Marshall's back and be toxic with Josh together. Good for Marshall though, he can go find someone much more considerate.

I related a lot to Jackie and have said the same to men before because they always become like Marshall. I realize how toxic it sounds but the way it’s meant is “don’t sink yourself beneath me or put me on a pedestal. hold your own and be confident and don’t look to me for all the answers. do your own thing”. Annoyingly many men haven’t figured out how to be sensitive/secure and strong/confident at the same time. No one wants an abuser but often abusive men don’t sink themselves which is why many women go for them even though they’re treated worse

Agreed. Marshall did nothing wrong and did a lot of very sweet, loving things to prove his love to Jackie and she turned around and trashed him verbally, emotionally and mentally and he deserves so, so much better. His support of all of the men on the show proves he had a beautiful heart and soul and I think he should hold off until he meets someone who treats him exactly the way he treats her.

Thank you! People ignore him LITERALLY ADMITTING A FEAR/TRAUMA with past partnes and completely ignore it. Bliss basically told him his worst fear would happen. Ofcourse he would run

Totally agree!! That's also how I understood it! When she said her dad would never find anyone good enough for her, I think he freaked out

Her dad is toxic af

lmfaoooooo the paul comment

Whats with the Kwame and SK comparisons though? Serious question they don't come across the same way at allll to me. Let's not forget before the after-show drama most people loved SK and it seems no one loves Kwame on the show so how is it same energy?

@@jayzt705 Kennie explains why she gets similar vibes in the video, but essentially it boils down to the idea that both of them are really looking for validation above all else

@@Jeshiae Yeah that makes sense in the end. With Kwame that's really on the surface though, he has such an extra way of talking and trying to sound like an intellectual, whereas SK came across as the most normal, slightly boring person while on the show, thats why I asked

Marshall is a virgo not a libra

Exactly

So true!

Whoever hurts you doesn't deserve your empathy.

Exactly. You don't get to hurt me AND be the victim

OMG yeeeessssss 🤣🤣🤣🤣I can't unsee it now

😂😂😂

no they literally did

They did

dude fr i was like gimme a break goddamn

They filmed at lot of these back to back, so this was sitting in the too-be-released bin probably while we were watching the previous Season.

YEP! I was put off the absolute most over their Zack comments than anything else. It was clear they had no reason aside from him not strictly adhering to the social rules they live and die by. They get straight up hateful about him, it freaks me out how fast it became so high intensity.

The fact that Micah opened up episode 6 basically saying "Zack is not that bad, he's a nice guy but because he's so weird/strange it's easy to pick on him" really proves that maybe most girls don't like him for this reason. And if that's the case its really sad.

@@vanessa_lmao8219 agreed!

​@@vanessa_lmao8219 I thought it was so weird and icky when he was just shooting off ethnicities when trying to guess the background of one of the Asian women on the show.

@@Simmerdownidc that was not him lmao, that was a South Asian guy 💀😭😭

The mean girls become nurses thing is like, nationwide lol.

​@@leahdavis9434Right. You don't need to be an healthcare to get this.

Call them what they are, bullies, rather than grouping an entire demographic of people. There are assholes in every profession.

I can already hear them whispering and laughing at the patients inside the supply room.

@@leahdavis9434 world wide*

Right? Bliss was right to question his logic though. Hope he learned a lesson from that. He knew deep down irina was immature and mean, but he ignored his gut and talked him self into choosing her. I was screaming, "Zach nooooooo" 😂

It's the kind of thing that is only cute in movies. Irl it's just... too intense. It happened to a friend of mine and worst thing is, she wasn't into the guy at all. She just patiently waited for him to be done and then was just like "well... thanks for that. Have a nice one." 😂

I think you have to genuinely adore your person to find it endearing. My man is the type to sing to me. I would melt for sure

Forgot his whole birthday but trust her ????

She 100% is chaos which reminds him of his mom. He's comfortable in chaos while bliss is stability that he is just unfamiliar with so not as trustworthy

I knew I was over him the second he brought up being rejected to pick up a girl from her house because he's black. You know if you picked a black girl that wouldn't happen but nope would never do that 😂. And then wanting to use the name Alex to up his chances getting a yt girl. He's so sad

Sickening. Talkin bout call me Alex 🥴

Gurl right now am happy he is getting that treatment for his preference!!!! These men never learn 😅😅😅😅😅

Mommy issues for sure.

True, but she was being honest. I would question his judgement too. He couldn't have been more wrong, lol.

I fully agree, even tho damn Bliss would have been great for him because if he had payed attention, she judged Irina on her actions not her past and relayed to him that because she knows how Irina is it would reflect on him badly too for her. She's basically saying actions matter more for her in terms of judgement than past

Also, Irina's fixation with Bliss while she was on dates with Zach should have been some kind of sign to Zach. But for whatever reason, he inexplicably trusted her 🤷

I think it was also off-putting to Zack that Bliss said her family never liked any of her exes, and that she was sure they would probably not like her future husband either, since no one would be good enough for her in her family's eyes. Zack had already vaguely told her at that point that he got rejected by an ex-girlfriend's family in the past, because of his upbringing/family background, etc. When Zack said that he would really like for her family to accept him, she was like "What? But why do you care?" And he's like "Because they matter to you, and you matter to me." And she somehow still doesn't get it, and acts almost annoyed that he would want that? 😅 Idk, I really like Bliss, but that was a huge red flag for me. I could see how she could seem a bit cold or harsh sometimes while in the pods.

100% agree. I couldn't stand Irina but she played the game in the pods well by conveniently just saying enough to seem vulnerable and slightly insecure about Zacks connection with Bliss when talking to him and about how she was viewed by other women in the pods. Naturally, when Bliss came in afterwards and was more forthright in her critique of Irina's character, that automatically caused Zack to become defensive of Irina because of what she shared with him earlier, his past of being judged, and because Irina wasn't there to defend herself. I think Bliss knew that she somewhat overstepped (even though she was honest) because she seemed to reel in her thoughts a bit immediately afterwards when she could've easily elaborated.