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Knife Review - TAKAMURA MIGAKI SG2 170MM SANTOKU

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Never a Dull Moment

Never a Dull Moment

Күн бұрын

Takamura was the first maker to create a knife out of SG2 steel 60 years ago. Before it was popular, they began the journey of creating what is now a formidable blade. It is difficult to find a better stainless blade at this price. Fit and finish are exceptional, and the Laser grind is shocking as it falls through food. Edge retention is excellent with an HRC of ~63. Out of box sharpness is excellent. This is a solid value, a great looking knife and great performer at a great price!
This knife was purchased. It is not a sponsored product. This is part of my night collection that I wanted to own.
Takamura Hamono (blacksmith) can be found in Takefu Village (Echizen) in Fukui Prefecture. It is run by 3rd generation blacksmith Terukazu Takamura who inherited the shop from his father Toshiyuki Takamura-san. Smithing since 1985, his blades are known for an extremely refined and long-lived edge.
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@lastbite1237
@lastbite1237 2 жыл бұрын
That’s literally the knife on my waiting list. Will get it very soon. ✨
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re a professional chef or just love to cook all the damn time then this thing is just ridiculous and walking away from it for a minute without it oxidizing is nice. It just checks off everything on the list
@GlennLaguna
@GlennLaguna Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a 210 Guyto. Thanks for the review you two.
@nadm
@nadm Жыл бұрын
Enjoy it
@robthomas6012
@robthomas6012 Жыл бұрын
Just got my today. Can’t wait to use it. ❤
@nadm
@nadm Жыл бұрын
So exciting!
@robthomas6012
@robthomas6012 Жыл бұрын
@@nadm it was fantastic absolutely love it.
@KitchenKnifeGuy
@KitchenKnifeGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeahhhh buddy. I think I’ll be adding a Takamura to my collection soon too.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
It just performs incredible. It's not expensive. Tony I'll hook you up. $169 and it's literally one of the best performing those I've ever owned. It was fun watching your kitchen battle!
@KitchenKnifeGuy
@KitchenKnifeGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadm Thanks man and great feedback on the Takamura. The one I have my eye on is a little pricier then that. Think Uchigomo ;)
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
@@KitchenKnifeGuy that's awesome. I've got a secret! Somethings on the way. I have a rule and I broke it specifically for the one that's coming. It might be one of the most beautiful one. I know you've had some beautiful ones in your hands. Something about the handle on this one. I don't know when it'll be here.
@AJ-by6pd
@AJ-by6pd 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadm I have three Takamura knives. My favorite to date has been the chromax nakiri because it’s wa handled and it’s not a shape he typically makes. I’m also waiting for a Hana Uchigomo R2 gyuto like Franco.
@AJ-by6pd
@AJ-by6pd 2 жыл бұрын
What knife is on the way that you broke the bank on?
@bidin5253
@bidin5253 2 жыл бұрын
Nice energy you got there Greg... takamura is the knife that made goes down the rabbit hole awesome knife...if anybody saw business insider video they should know that all knife made by takamura are awesome
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
I checked out the video myself and it’s pretty awesome. I’m not sure everybody didn’t see the business insider video but it is legendary that it put them on the map.
@admirallongstash8056
@admirallongstash8056 2 жыл бұрын
My first Japanese knife was also the 210 Gyuto. In my opinion their Western handle is simply the best coming out of Japan. Super performer, ultra thin. It feels like smaller knife because it is light and precise. Wonderful steel but tends to mircro chip and I do have some skill and use soft boards. The cladding is soft and scratches easy.... but man, it takes an edge...AWESOME! Could you make a video on what stone or series of stones you feel give the best sharpening result for you?
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
damn... I hate too delicate blades
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'll have to wait till they get dull.
@admirallongstash8056
@admirallongstash8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimmacommunication This blade will let you know if you're doing the wrong thing. You'll hear it. I use mine regularly and by the time it wasn't super sharp anymore, 8 month or so, I had one spot to take care of, nothing shocking. Wat I want to say, it's not a typical beginner's knife but it's awesome anyway
@vforvendetta6193
@vforvendetta6193 2 жыл бұрын
@Admiral LongStash, good it's only your opinion cause it's not true. There are so many better knive handles coming from Japan, I don't even know where to start
@nouknouks6116
@nouknouks6116 2 жыл бұрын
@@admirallongstash8056 coco senti
@CHAOSMOVEMENT
@CHAOSMOVEMENT 8 ай бұрын
This is my first Japanese kitchen knife, I purchased it a few days ago and I'm looking forward to trying it out. The sharpening part is daunting, but I'm tired of cheap knives, I currently own a set of 316L and they are just horrendous in their edge retention and very heavy and clunky. Might be a big learning curve here, but I think it will pay off.
@nadm
@nadm 8 ай бұрын
The knife has a good price. You did pick something with a little harder steel. It's finishes very clean so it's easy to get scratches. I hope you don't mind while you're learning but honestly it's cheap enough that you could replace it. I don't take money lately so I don't mean to sound like I'm rich. The knife is about and depending on where you got it or the size it could be more but there are plenty of knives that cost more. If this is a good night to learn on in the results would be amazing.
@lastbite1237
@lastbite1237 2 жыл бұрын
On of my fav knives brand… 🙏🏻
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
Love it 😍
@e30Birdy
@e30Birdy 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 210 Gyuto and love it, was my step into the Japanese knife world. Few things I wish are that I would like a 240, the western handle isn't bad but it is a bit on the thin side, a WA handle would be even nicer but I will still accept it as the performance per dollar is really there.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
It is incredibly light and it’s just something that you notice right off the bat. Definitely a workhorse. This product is just so good.
@admirallongstash8056
@admirallongstash8056 2 жыл бұрын
@Never a Dull Moment My first Japanese knife was also the 210 Gyuto. In my opinion their Western handle is simply the best coming out of Japan. Super performer, ultra thin. It feels like smaller knife because it is light and precise. Wonderful steel but tends to mircro chip and I do have some skill and use soft boards. The cladding is soft and scratches easy.... but man, it takes an edge...AWESOME! Could you make a video on what stone or series of stones you feel give the best sharpening result for you?
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@admirallongstash8056 I have the 180 version in my mind since like summer , damn you people are forcing me to buy it 😏😏😏😂😜 Honestly the 210mm knives are way too big, so I will probably buy smaller ones in the future. My tojiro f-332 is still my favourite at ~180mm
@admirallongstash8056
@admirallongstash8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimmacommunication It's very light at 150grams for a full size gyuto, balanced at the bolster, so when pinch gripping it feels very nimble. I imagine a shorter blade will make it feel extra lite. Maybe a good reason to hold both in your hand before you decide.
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@admirallongstash8056 Well, but ... how can I handle them? No shop here in my country will ever let you handle knives , unless they know you very well. It's a weapon afterall. I'm not taking weight in consideration, just sheer size. My 210mm gyuto feels way bigger than the F-332 180mm .
@robertdavis171
@robertdavis171 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping you compare Sharpton and Cosera stones soon. That's my Christmas gift buy.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
We have a lineup. We're trying to spread out the different brand so we don't always have the brand so close together for each battle. You cannot go wrong with either one I will tell you that upfront. You also need to know that we keep mixing up the grit as well
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadm I heard that the Naniwa tenda to break, that's keeping me from buying it 😅.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimmacommunication I have not had that problem. I had the super stones from Wayback better now called the professional stones.
@paweel2494
@paweel2494 2 жыл бұрын
Today i got my 210mm Gyuto :) collection is growing. Boy!!! that thing i sharp, laser ...
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Awesome size! Enjoy
@hello.itsme.5635
@hello.itsme.5635 2 жыл бұрын
Got mine 2 weeks ago. It's amazing to use this thing. Mine had such a thin edge it chipped a lot in the beginning. Put a new edge on it and its doing great since then.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
@@hello.itsme.5635 awesome 👏🏼
@learner5090
@learner5090 2 жыл бұрын
@@hello.itsme.5635 can you cut bone with it
@hello.itsme.5635
@hello.itsme.5635 2 жыл бұрын
@@learner5090 No.
@donkeyhead68
@donkeyhead68 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm considering the gyuto 210mm
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
I think that would be an awesome choice
@laurah2048
@laurah2048 Жыл бұрын
To answer your question, yes this knife is still laminated (sanmai) with stainless steel cladding with sg2/r2 core. They are still handforged in house, despite not having that rustic forged look. Takamura style is to have high polish, and all the forge finishes removed off the blade 😀
@nadm
@nadm Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This week we're doing more of their company. Diving in deeper to the crow Max and then into their version of Damascus. That's very expensive. I hope you enjoy tomorrow night's video coming out at 8 o'clock.
@jeffhicks8428
@jeffhicks8428 Жыл бұрын
They are definitely not "hand forged." Do you even understand what that means and what you're saying? Doesn't seem like it. The "knife community" has a very wishy washy relationship with facts and reality, it seems. I blame the hype merchants who (re)sell them. Very few smiths even forge regular stainless steel much less "hand forge" I think what you meant is "hammer forge" and nobody in Japan is even "hand forging" basic carbon steels that are actually the kind of steels used in that kind of knife making. The steel in this knife is R2 powdered steel. Nobody is forging this with a hammer nor with a powered hammer, nor can they. It's forged by the steel mill with special equipment. They source it in laminated sheets which are intended for knife making. The kind of knives that are forged are made of basic carbon steels, like 1095 or white #2 etc, or various low alloy tool steels like o1 or blue #2, etc. Those are steels that used in forging knife making. All that basically means is they make it red hot and hit it with a hammer. Nothing magic about it. The steels used to do that are suitable for that kind of thing. It's a cruder or more rustic or traditional way of doing things. Total other end of the spectrum from powdered stainless steels which can only be produced and forged in a handful of facilities in the world. Knife makers get the steel in sheets or billets, sometimes it comes laminated with a more mild steel if thats what they want, then they cut it and grind it into a knife. Zero forging. Idk you'd think all of this would be basic knowledge to anyone that's going to have the confidence to make comments telling other people things, but nah. We just kinda of vomit whatever nonsense we want that sounds about right and 99% no one calls us on it. I guess that's how it works in the knife community.
@trappenweisseguy27
@trappenweisseguy27 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I learned something new today. I had no idea that SG2 has been around that long. I suppose I would get used to the handle, but I do prefer a “wa” type Japanese handle. I generally don’t like a stainless choil/bolster but imagine I’d get used to it. Imagine how light it would be without the full tang and with a wa handle. Next thing you’ll have to do is sharpen it up to see if the steel is greasy or difficult to sharpen.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
I put some links in the video about sharpening this type of steel. I did two videos on sharpening this type of steel. Two minutes and 18 seconds into the video I put a link to one of the sharpening videos and then I put another one right after it. I like this steel.
@trappenweisseguy27
@trappenweisseguy27 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@johnhoward3271
@johnhoward3271 Жыл бұрын
@@nadm You made Me NEED this knife !... HOWEVER of COURSE it's sold out ! ( great price too ). :(
@nadm
@nadm Жыл бұрын
@@johnhoward3271 I’m sorry brother will get you one.
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
In the end I bought the shapton 1000 , just loved it at 1st use 🤩. You should use an electric microscope to see the bevel and the scratch pattern when the knife is new , nobody does that would be a cool thing
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have a microscope and you get what you pay for. I didn’t been a crazy amount of money I didn’t spend enough to be able to see pretty good but the really expensive microscopes are much better. I have some early videos with some of that footage. I’ll have to get back into it again
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadm Also I've been looking at this knife ( the gyuto version ) for quiet a long time. The price is very competitive , so I tought there was some kind of catch, but from what I see looks amazingly done.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimmacommunication it's just cheap and it's hard to believe they can sell it for that little compared to how big it performs
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadm The reason I bought the 12k is that it was the cheapest 10k stone 6 years ago,probably still is. Loved it too, that's what made me buy the 1k.
@conortennyson6210
@conortennyson6210 7 ай бұрын
Ordered the vg10 version of santoku. What stone would you recommend for a complete beginner? Ceramic rod yes, no?
@nadm
@nadm 5 ай бұрын
You will see people say to not do that, but I think it's fine. Just keep it at the same sharpening angle and don't press very hard. I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment.
@olan5668
@olan5668 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Santoku knife! and it's SG2!, is that engraved kanji/logo? if so, that is a big plus for me, because an engraved kanji/logo feels more personal. I prefer Santoku with straighter cutting edge (the tip height around 25-30% of blade's height), this Takamura Santoku tip height is around 50% of the blade's height. And also i prefer black western handle. What Santoku at 5:10?
@nadm
@nadm Жыл бұрын
Well, at least you know what you want. That was very specific. It is engraved. The rest of it doesn’t really meet your standard. I still think you would like it. I think you would like anything they make. Thanks for checking us out. Ask anymore questions you want and please give me the time to respond.
@duncanhenderson8769
@duncanhenderson8769 2 жыл бұрын
After using German knives I am now wanting a Japanese one. Takamura is always used by pro chefs on KZfaq. I want a western handle. Dont want it too long 170mm to 210mm. I was looking at the Cromax Migaki Santoki and the Gyuto r2. What you you recommend?
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
So, I own them both. They both are equal in performance. I would just tell you that the Chromax is semi stainless so it can oxidize. It's a little cheaper. But you'll have to wipe it down more
@shawnhampton8503
@shawnhampton8503 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that this Santoku has a lot more upward curve. It is not nearly as flat from tip to heel as your others, and most Santokus.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to go back and look and compare. Thanks for the tip!
@mike59ca
@mike59ca 2 жыл бұрын
I USE MY OLD BUTTER KNIFE FOR ALL MY KNIFE NEEDS
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a review of your butter knife
@richardlawton1023
@richardlawton1023 Жыл бұрын
Really sharp. Like you I don't care for the construction. 20 years ago I bought a Henkles Santoku. I'm sure this steel is much better. I like mostly Blue #2.
@nadm
@nadm Жыл бұрын
This knife is ridiculously amazing. The more I used it the more I loved it. You don't have to worry about oxidation. Incredibly sharp. I've heard people complain about chipping but we haven't had that problem in this house. Some people just abuse knives. I think it's hands-down one of the hardest knives to beat especially for the price. $125 I think was what it was. Pretty ridiculous. Like you, I like blue number two and super blue
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
The Takamura has amazing prices also , does SG2 need diamond stones ? I love the western handle :) It's a nice change from the classic one. Nice info about Kobelco steel
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
It does not need a diamond stones. I put links in the video of me Sharpening this type of steel on regular stones and I had no problem
@johnjomp
@johnjomp 2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming it's made in Japan? You should mention that.
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I thought I did. Third generation, post World War II founded company. Their last name is Takamura. I did mention the city that they were from and the prefecture. It didn’t dawn on me to make sure I still said Japan after all of that.
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadm 😂😂😂
@charlieharris9370
@charlieharris9370 2 жыл бұрын
You might want to consider moving your mic so it doesn't pick up all of your swallowing/mouth clearing noises. I've noticed them in every video of yours I've watched and, for me, they make your videos unwatchable. Great content though!
@nadm
@nadm 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we try to edit those out. I’m sorry I missed those. I have bad asthma and allergies. We normally get them cut out. I’ll be more careful on my editing. We didn’t used to have that problem because I was cutting them out. It’s a constant thing with me but I battle. We’re definitely trying to make some adjustments. Hopefully we’re gonna make up my wife. She’s pretty funny.
@rmmmevs5075
@rmmmevs5075 Жыл бұрын
Just one piece of advice : Speech is silver, silence is golden
@nadm
@nadm Жыл бұрын
It’s a good thing I like silver
@rmmmevs5075
@rmmmevs5075 Жыл бұрын
​@@nadm Excellent for you, I'm really glad,as, sadly, you'd not be up to golden.
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