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I don't equate half-stops with quality necessarily but I do like half-stops on working knives. As for that useless cap lifter and without modification, in the name of science I will undertake a sample bottle of every make of bottled beer made that I have access to and see if/when I can open it. I will of course dispose of the contents properly and report back to you with my results...or die trying. lol I too like the RR CC whittler in yellow comp, it is even sturdier than my Case Seahorse which I really like using around the home. Thanks Tobias for another excellent review and follow-up on the CC II series.

I pity the fool who puts a non functional cap lifter on Tobias's camp knife.

Another great video, Tobias. Enjoying your extensive back-catalogue.

Thanks, for the good word on the RR 533, really nice camp knife.

I thoroughly enjoyed the magazine style of this episode. Thank you. And nice job with the white vinegar. What a result.

It seems when Rough Rider copies a traditional pattern they tend to build them more robust. That is not bad thing but, turns out a few issues like the cap lifter having issues. The split back whittler is really not the same as a Case Seahorse. The Rough Rider has brass a spacer between the springs. The two Seahorse Case knives I have don’t have a spacer between the springs. That is why they are such a slim built knife. The secondary blades are much slimmer too. The Case is more like a sleeve board with a slight bend in the middle. Coping blades are for trim carpenter work. They are used for trim work as a complement to a Coping saw. The short blade is handy for the final trimming of wood trim after it was back cut using a Coping saw to get a better fit. It also is used for small trim that a Coping saw can’t easily cut because of its small size. It makes a perfect complement to whittler. ✨🔎✨

I love the new intro song. I love the damn honesty too. Keep up the good work sir. It's not a failure it's one of a kind 👍🏽

I appreciate the knife chat videos Tobias. You've really turned me on to Rough Ryder knives and SMKW as well. I've got a small but growing collection of these blades! Thanks for what you do. Atb Sean

Apparently SMKW has changed their policy regarding calls complaining about QC with Rough Ryders. I recently received a bad RR and was told that they did not offer replacements and that I would have to send it back at my cost and reorder. If the first knife was deemed by SMKW to actually be defective (and not just a cosmetic problem such as a double-struck "R" on the bolster), they would refund the return shipping.

Maybe the guys in the custom shop could get to fixing all those caplifters. Lol. I like the look of the patina. There’s a guy on RRFB who patinas with hot coffee, gets a real dark look.

About the patina, you can also use mostard. Put it on, let it sit and wipe off. Also an easy way to create a pattern on your blades.

Will be interesting to see how the cap lifter turns out after grinding

Them whitler knives look really well put to gether.nice vid thank you.atb paddy 👍

Great video Tobias!! I just got the stockman in from this series, and will be doing a video on it in the future. Thanks!!

Excellent review. You inspired me to test each of my RR camp knives and my RR Tailgate Trapper on a bottle of Heineken just now. All three of my older RR533 camp knives worked well. The Tailgate Trapper did the job. My Marbles camp knife also worked. However, the caplifters on CC2 and Kamp King, as you demonstrated, are poorly designed and do not work. Also, my large RR camp knife in tiger stripe has the same bad design. So that is THREE in a row that are flawed in the same way. RR needs to address this issue, for sure.

Wonderful video. You make a good point about the cap lifter, does not make sense that SMKW did not fix the cap lifter in the classic carbon model after all that feedback on the kamp king. I guess that means SMKW does not know what constant improvement means, sigh. There seems to be a pattern, like they have problems with cap lifters in general recently since their RR Reserve 004 bar back also has a terrible cap lifter design. Much appreciate you writing the name of the music at the end.

I ordered the new swayback whittler just today. I don’t mind two pen blades, I don’t have to stop and sharpen as often carving detail work. I usually end up reproducing them quite a bit. I have the other carbon whittler with the yellow scales as well.

Great video, I carry the classic carbon swayback whittler every day. After I heard the way your pen blades snap, I am going to give it a good cleaning and oiling and if that doesn't work, I may have to contact SMKW. Keep up the great work, you're an inspiration

Carbon steel looks great! Well done

Hey Tobias, if you’re ever doing a patina again i’ve found that heating a small jar of white vinegar for a minute then dipping the blade will get you a nice dark color in a few minutes

Almost bought one of those scout knives. Glad I picked up the classic carbon II Barlow instead.

Well at least the second knife opened and closed correctly. I agree would prefer a coping blade instead of 2 pen blades. The patina turned out nice. I agree there is no excuse for a cap lifter that doesn't work.

I have both. The yellow and black whittler. And I love them. I prefer them over the case seahorse whittler. The 2 small penblade are much more useful than a coping blade for whittling. IMHO! The Swayback is much more stronger then the seahorse.

I have a yellow one that has the same problem as your first black one. They told me the same thing they told you about returning both. Currently awaiting the replacement.

I love the Whittler immensely and find it to be the perfect EDC-knife. So the yellow one and the micarta version ended up in my collection. I am pretty sure I would buy it again when RR would come up with a different cover material. Shame about the Camp Knife though, it seems to be awefully wide too. :-(

Half stops put shock stress on the back spring it doesn't need. If your injuring yourself with a slip joint, then you are using it wrong. So learn to use the knife properly! The seahorse whittler is excellent and one of the pen blades can be altered to be a coping blade. A nice tight working knife pattern 👍

I am pretty sure all SMKW carbon steel knives have stainless back springs, as nice as back spring patina can be it doesn't bother me than much. I still really wish I had the surplus income to go towards knives right now, that classic carbon 2 whittler is almost exactly the knife I have been wanting for quite some time.

I like the white one the best.

Great video Tobias.

Three thumbs down! Probably my most disliked video to date! WooHoo! But nobody backed up their thumbs down with a comment explaining why the thumbs down! (Except maybe zero4U) 😂

I've never had a Chinese beer, but I'm guessing their bottles have tiny little caps. lol That cap lifter rant was awesome, buddy. Cheers.

I cannot Imagine how rough rider can produce a good looking pocket knife from $10 - $25. Just think about manufacture shipping and distribution cost. It is amazing to me. Obviously we give up steel quality for cost. But for me they are just fun to play with.

The patina looks good but it's pretty bad when you have to start grinding on a new knife and SMKW starting this new policy on their RR 's return/replacement kinda sucks, oh well

I find the action on a knife without half stops is far more satisfying. I do prefer it on the screwdriver for increased leverage, though.

I stopped carrying rough ryder knives. I learned they are for collecting not using, I have 3 rough ryders that are broken from using.

I have the Whittler too, i wish it had small coping blade in place of one of the pen blades. I'll have to seek out a Case, i like the slimmer handle.

Here’s my opinion on halfstops- yeah I like when a knife has halfstops, it feels good to open and close and I like the safety aspect of it, BUT, as far as “quality” goes, to put a halfstop on a blade, you have to grind down the butt end of the knife flat so it engages the backspring perpendicularly, right? So by grinding material away to make a half stop you are thus taking material away from the blade where it needs is to help with blade wobble in the open position. (The extra material giving the blade more contact between liners thus helping keep it sturdy) It’s been my experience that knives with halfstops tend to be more prone to blade wobble… what do you think?

kids yellow mustard works fine as a patina fixer.

damn toby is made about them cap lifter i havent heard him like that before, but h has a serious point, ii love this channel

I love camp knives but i doubt any will ever be made that are better than my 20 yo edc sak boy scout huntsman.

I'll wind up getting the swayback whittler in the end, no doubt, but the main blade looks awfully thick. This seems like an emerging trend with Rough Ryder - a tendency to err on the excessively chunky side, which wasn't always the case. They can make a refined split backs after all, the RR155 and especially the 375 being just great for the money. The latter has a coping blade too, but both are stainless. Sigh. :-)

I modified the cap lifter myself and have primarily shifted my collection purchases toward CASE. Is your Pocket Guide to Knives still Available?

Tobias is the Canterbury camp knife Bottle opener good?

They don’t want to change the big R on the bolster!!!!! They aren’t listening to the customer I may have to throw the towel in!!!!!!!

What is the difference between Classic Carbon and Classic Carbon 2? I looked on SMKW and they have the same specs.

Another interesting look -see into the Rough Rider collection ! We all know that they are manufactured in Cina, but I wonder who really owns the company ?

half stops are nothing but the tang squared up lol its not difficult to make but i do like having it

Well it’s looking like I’m going to throw the towel in with rough ryder knives!!!!!!!!

The tiger stripe camp knife looks different than this one . Are you going to grab it ? Its twice the price though .

Not a huge fan of the Micarta they used in this series would have loved something a little more old school to go with the Carbon steel like a bone handle. My half hawk was pretty poorly made but the Barlow and Canoe were pretty good. I would consider buying another camp knife if they would fix the cap lifter.

Norm from Cheers told me the carbon steel is better imo if you carve ,stainless if you are a lazy lad and I agree on your selection on the camp knives. One day I will show my collection. How come no one uses gun bluing to darken ?Seems it would be better as it protects from pitting.

Maybe Chinese bottle caps have a different profile! Kidding, of course.

A knife with half stops is not a guarantee to quality it is only a guarantee that it has half stops.

Morale of the story... Go camping with canned beer!😂

Caplifters that can't lift a cap, hmm how to call them? Non-caplifters? Stupid? Thank you for the review Tobias.

The CC2 series are definitely lesser quality than the first in yellow composition. The single blade half-hawk I have is very poorly made . It was not sharp, has gapping and the micarta handles are already starting to curl up.

How can I purchase r knives?

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You went through the whole video without even showing us that the caplifter not working!

Uhoh....the cap lifter isnt good!!! Do like the series otherwise!!!

Just say no to rough ryder knives