100% accurate

It’s 2nd degree. Chill

@@mdm032 yeah- 2nd degree MURDER.

@@mdm032 you say that like it dilutes the point being made: yeah 2nd degree murder is still murder

wow i can't believe she has the ballz to ask for leniency................ this is why i hate entitlement.

Sounds like something trump would do tbh

​@@casper191985Yeah, let's totally politicize this because I'm sure you're full of heart. 🙄

@@Fluffy_Penguin727 I’m just describing the characteristics of a narcissist.

@@casper191985 wtaf are you talking about. Throw your keyboard in the bin ffs!

@@casper191985 it’s the attitude of the entitled. You’re correct.

I am sincerely sorry for the loss of your beloved son.

YOU SAID EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING TO THE JUDGE.YOUR SON. I AM SO SORRY.

I’m so sorry for your loss.😔May he rest in Heavenly paradise.✨💖✨

I'm so sorry at that point I'd be taking it into my own hands. If I didn't have any other kids depending on me.

So sorry for your loss.

But the "justice system" rewards the crim crims and gives absolutely nothing to victims. Think about it: crimmies get free housing, free food, free clothing, free health care, free lawyers, etc. But VICTIMS?! They get a free pass to Depressionville. 😂 Stay classy, humanity.

And this why at some point in time the courts have public expectations. The way times have changed.

Try is so trying

​@@zovalentine7305 Huh?

Sad

Righttt and they coverage on this do no severely highlight these details, they gloss over very well that she was married but was out drinking and driving with her lover???

No woman deserves to go to jail!

15 to life. She could be held longer. That's just the minimum

Don't worry. Big Bertha will handle what the courts didn't.

@@kylepollak616that’s just a fantasy. Nothing will happen to her. She’s gonna get a nice and cushy cell to herself.

​@iudexslade7855 Exactly. They will keep her cell mate on retainer to keep her safe . 😮

I hope the family sues her for everything she has.

California 👈

The Standford Swimmer did about 3 months for SA assault. It's mostly the judges who are pretty biased in favor of "not ruining" the lives of the well-to-do defendants.

in America 15 years to life really means out in 3 on good behavior. This country has become such a joke.

Disagree. Implement NEW laws which provide stiffer penalties like 35 years to life. I am just as disgusted as you are!

@@robyndismon394you disagree she didn’t deserve more time ooooof what a brain dead comment only thing you made sense is change the laws.

That's what surprises me. Most judges put a lot of consideration on the character of the individual and how remorseful they are. She killed 2 children and felt no guilt at all.

​@@electricchef686 oh for fSakes..it is not. It's typical of racists to project on their hatreds though.

It’s a white culture thing.

She was given a 15 year to life sentence. Basically it’s a life sentence. She must first serve the full 15 years before she is eligible for a parole hearing. No is ever granted parole on their first hearing. If she is lucky she could be granted parole 20 or 25 years. She MUST show remorse, something she clearly doesn’t have. She will be in prison for along time. The parole board doesn’t ever have to grant her parole.

@@nis4nikki1 You mean first serve 7 years? Imagine if this girl's last name was Martinez: it would be life in prison without parole

Yes she does!

@@mikeyrose4183 - No she she MUST serve 15 years before she is eligible for the possibility of a parole hearing. She doesn’t ever have to be granted parole. Her sentence is basically a life sentence. She should have negotiated a plea deal. She won’t be granted parole on her first parole hearing maybe on her second or third if she is lucky.

@@nis4nikki1 You are surely naive. I am Mexcan "AMERICAN" ( a real AMERICAN by DNAa). I was hit by a bus, lost my job, and my knee is in constant pain. All of that tort law bull 💩, " ipso facto " this, "ipso facto " that is thrown out of the window. That "sophisiticated" mumbo jumbo of " I hereby declare--blah blah blah" is a joke. The laws here are not followed. They are broken every day. Those hearings you see on TV are circuis. Those stooges behind the black cape who people call "judges" are jokers who all try to sound fancy and all, yet, they only follow the law when convenient. This girl will be let go in 5-7 years i wager my life. Again, if her last name was Martinez, I swear by my wife's grave she wouldve had gotten LIFE in prison. YOU have not experienced it, that is why your head is burried in the sand, and think that JUSTICE is always served . Wake up!

Makes me sick. She killed those boys with her car.

Sadly, wealthy criminals are *always* protected. Always. Ya see it every day. They bond out, roam free, and commit even MORE crimes. It's just how society rolls.

@@surfrunnerd8457 Too long didn't read.. irrelevant anyway. By taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and recklessly driving a vehicle (racing) she should have known what the consequences would have been. She did it anyway. There is your intent.

@@SilencedByKZfaq well said. Well put. I just wish people would be more cautious, both drivers and pedestrians.

@@SilencedByKZfaqBe that as it may, it’s not intent as defined by law.

@@Catfluff521 Murder comes with intent as defined by law, it's in the penal code. She was charged with 2nd degree murder which means there wasn't pre-meditation but there was intent to cause harm.

​@surfrunnerd8457 how are people supposed to properly react when someone is going 80+ mph in a 25 mph zone? Your reaction time isn't going to be fast enough. That's why people who speed are always at fault in an accident. The fact that you're trying to put this on the kids indicates to me you're not aware of your responsibilities as a driver (I hope you don't drive) or a basic understanding of cause and affect. Maybe if this woman understood taking accountability for her actions, she wouldn't have even thought about driving when she was under the influence. I hope you grow up and learn before you hurt someone.

In my state, under these circumstances, it could have been a class 2 reckless homicide with up to 28 years for each count. Of course it always depends.

...for each child!!

Hopefully the other inmates when they find out what she did to those poor boys, they'll make her few years in prison a living Hell !!!

@@stevehensley5096 she'll be out in eight years. If reversed, and a guy ran over two little girls and killed them? He would spend 60 years in prison, not even close.

Karen tears will get her out in only 8 years

If second-degree murder results in life in prison with no chance of parole, what should be the minimum penalty for first-degree murder?

@@al-rediphfirst degree murder should always at minimum be life in prison, you took the life of another human being, why should you deserve to have one?

​@@nicoly075 15 years to life is the same as life in prison in many countries. Everybody deserves to live and justice is not the same as revenge. So how about speeding? Thought experiment: Rebecca Grossman is being stopped by the police before she would have killed the children. In most jurisdictions, there is no difference between murder and attempted murder. So in this case, the police would have to charge her with second degree murder (attempted) and she would get the same sentence, 15 years to life. Or, based on your reasoning, maybe life in prison (no parole) because she does not deserve to have a life. So speeding could and should land you in prison for life, because you know you could kill somebody. Is now clear how big of a stretch this sentence was? Maybe correct and just, but neverthless a stretch. Again, I'm not claiming the sentence Rebecca Grossman got is too high. But is definitely not too low and the justice system was stretched as far as possible to accommodate a sentence that more people may feel more appropriate for the death of two children. If this is not enough, than nothing will be.

@@al-rediph i understand where your coming from- but speeding and murder is different. Grossman was intoxicated and racing with her partner, with zero care or remorse, that should play into her sentencing, speeding is different? it depends on so many factors, wether their is remorse, wether there were people around, or if they were on empty streets, ect. which could lead into attempted murder which i would agree with my previous comment on the punishment, someone who was speeding very little to get their labouring wife to hospital for example would not get the same sentencing, thats common sense.

@@nicoly075 She was not charged with DUI. Speeding is what remains. And the "racing" part. Which I find quite interesting because there was a case in Germany where somebody killed a person while racing. He got life in prison (15 years) and his race partner got 13 years. I can follow the sentence. Nevertheless, I think people put too much attention on "remorse". She can't admit guilt without compromising her defence, and is this is ok. Remorse will play a role on her parole hearing. Not now. I find the second degree murder sentence (15 years) fair and enough.

Agreed. What a mess.

She will probably do life, or close to it. 15 years means she will be eligible for (not automatically granted) parole in 15 years.

Absolutely

No she should not be in prison at all bc the kids were not white.

Unless you're Paul Pelosi.

​@tjk1223 That guys still living rent free😂😂😂

​@@angus4352 You ignoring the fact he got off scot free?

@@tjk1223. Pelosi didn’t kill anyone. Shabby comment.

She's rich, that's why it was only 15 years!

But she's rich so she actually thinks she's more worthy

that’s not entitled that’s a sociopath with no feeling what so ever

It just goes to show that most people only think of themselves... If they released her I wonder if or what kind of compensation would she offer to the victim family... She probably wouldn't offer any and just go on with life... SMH

Yea the entire trial everything she did and said she should be charged. Tracking down the jury, trying to bribe the judge ,writing letters to the family the judge and the incriminating jail conversations smh..15 years smh

@@ItsPhillyDH You would do the same if you were face many years IN PRISON! Don't act so self righteous.

@@GillAgainsIsland12No I wouldn't😂

She will. When the other female inmates find out she killed kids, it’ll be all over.

And then what if she gets paroled early for "good behavior"? A real tragedy of justice.

@@tld7846not earlier then 15 years that’s when they start considering parole and good behavior might be a factor but she could be there til she dies

YES it is when it is not intentional. That's called manslaughter. There are people who INTENTIONALLY murder others who get the same sentence. You call that justice?

She will, that's a fact.

Maybe you should run for his seat and do a better job.

That sounds good.​@70smusicfanatic34

She got 15 years to life. That means she is eligible for parole at 15 years but that doesn't mean she will get parole. She can indeed serve life.

@@Vortex-gz8sebro she’s not even going to serve 15 years completely . Maybe 13 years max . A normal person or black person would be serving 40 years to life .

That’s the value of a good lawyer.

google "Estimating Gender Disparity in Federal Crime Cases" and read the study by University of Michigan. It will explain why this sentence is the way that it is.

That's just horrific and she's not sorry.

They don't think it, they know it. Money talks

Exactly, 15 years is not long enough.

She shouldn't get the same sentence as Chris Watts got because it was technically an accident but 15 years is insane

@@snopesshop1903 she chose to impair herself. She chose to race her boyfriend. She also chose to drive erratically through residential roads. This was not an accident. Her choices resulted in two children dying. An accident is your grandmother slipping on ice and breaking her hip.

It was 15 years to life. She is up for parole in 15 years, it doesn't necessarily mean she will get it.

@@Highice007nope you are up for parole a third of your sentencing in. So like in 5 years she will be up for parole. Thats why everyone is pissed. Even if she wasn’t up for parole until 15 years in that would be a major injustice. But realistically she will be out in 5. It helps to be rich to not have to abide by laws.

​@@Highice007 Google Dan White!

​@@Highice007Her life is over point blank

And she's a mother herself and has no remorse. Smh.

$$$$

omen always get a fraction of the sentencing men do for the same crimes. Look into it if you're unaware.

White blonde girl with money , you know she only doing 7 years max!

@@CornerHustles someone said the 15 years is mandatory before she gets a chance at parole. But we'll see. I would not be surprised if she's out in 7.

@@squoctopus 💯💔

They're not.

​@@mgtowski395 I was ABOUT to write the exact same thing

Money will never buy you class or common sense. She still will think she is in the right….some people you will never reach.

🤯😈

He husband should be ashamed of himself..

She and her husband are rich

15 to life, meaning she might be up for parole but if it gets denied, she can stay in prison for longer, up to life. Who knows if she will ever get parole but if she does, the governor can deny it, like all California governors kept denying parole to the Manson murderers. But I agree, it should have been consecutive 34 to life instead.

@@ThatWeirdPlaceInYT drunk driver, first time offender, no disciplinary reports in prison, old white lady who will pretend to be remorseful with a strong support system. She will get paroled without question

I know 15 years sounds too short, but she probably won't get paroled at the 15 year mark. She will be in prison for (hopefully) most of the rest of her life.

It's Commiefornia.

Perhaps a silly question but can the Prosecution appeal? A travesty of justice! The boys' family has a life sentence.

If she continues to show no remorse she could very easily never get out of prison

basically she will get out in less than 15 years on good behavior .. justice has not been served

Wrong. That minimizes sentencing of those who commit INTENTIONAL murder. Think about what you're saying.

It should be, but that's ok. She's entitled but being in prison will fix it for her. Mentally she may not even last 5yrs in there!!

No. She gets special treatment. The corrupt judge has decided.

AMEN! I don't care how rich she is.

NO QUESTION.

Exactly!!

Is it a matter of revenge?

You think 15 years in prison is privilege? You clearly never been to prison 😂

@@FJB20247 black guy wouldve got more

​@@FJB20247got a old homie who got 6 for buckshoting a kid playing gangbanger did 2 in county got out she definitely got hit with the book white and rich don't sit good with jury anymore 👍it's like top 1 percent thar actually get better legal systems

@@vextronos8583 a black guy would’ve been let out the next day and giving a paycheck.

You had the privilege part right but it ain’t just cause she’s wealthy smh, 🤦🏽‍♀️!

Teas, cotillions, and shopping extravaganzas!

Life as we know it can change in a second. Hers did, she's just now realizing it.

They were 2 muslims boys... Thats why she only got 15 years. 😑

​@@O.GGrandMasterOGno it's her money.

@@electronicnotarystamp235 You don't even believe that. I've seen millionaires go to prison for life. We all know exactly why she only got 15 years. They were 2 muslims boys... Thats why she only got 15 years. 😑

Imagine if the kids were little white blonde girls and the driver was Pakistani.. life !

@@CornerHustles Or if the driver was a mechanic, electrician or other blue collar worker regardless of their race.

@@Reaper-cm4jr the lady could care less about them kids she should be serving 25 mandatory

@@CornerHustles Do you truly believe that The California BOP is going to let her out at the minimum 15 years for a double homicide?

@@Reaper-cm4jr having money works wonders . We'll see in the Future

Yes, that evildoer does not deserve freedom.

@@KirkHermaryif she was in Ireland she’d get a suspended sentence.

She might be

​@@fmcm7715Sounds like here in Australia

Is it a matter of revenge?

Spot on

She’s not even sorry

Pride

She walks outside arm locked arm with her family as if she’s the victim.

Entitlement will do that to a person

I fear that's how it will go. She is rich after all.

that's when they release her next week to home confinement...

Good behavior? Like, not driving drunk while in prison?

She probably won’t even do 3 years

Yeah like after a year or already time served

You’ve never drank and drove before?

Have you? Probably every other day

@@1984isnotamanualno WTF why are you asking like it’s a normal thing to do?

@@1984isnotamanual i hope you're joking. And no I never drink. Alcohol is gross. Not to also mention, she was racing and hit two baby boys. I don't think you would be joking if you saw two boys body smashed against the body of a car.

@@ha-kh7ef im not joking. Im sure youve speed though before right? Or looked at your phone? Or done something else highly illegal and dangerous

We all have value.

Wealthy White Women Walk. I'm shocked she got 15 years. It will probably get reduced to 6 years on appeal.

The rich don't pay .... so unfair and not right.

These people?

@@stuartx7865 jewish, not white!

Typical jew!

she got a great deal. 7.5 years for each life and she will get out early

Death Penalty. We have plenty of other people here in America, we don't need this one back.

@@teddymoon3744 right . they definitely paid someone off.

slap

@alastairgreen2077 thanks typing to fast, an extra p!

Do you think it would have been longer or shorter?

​@@squoctopus Longer, judging by the tone of their comment.

It's stupid that she is getting any prison time at all.

Or a man. Women very often get shorter sentences for the same conviction.

Not true.. look up the case for Stephanie Melgoza. Hispanic woman who took the lives of 2 people while driving drunk and she got 14 years (not even 14 to life.. just an actual 14 year sentence).

What men 😂

They were 8 and 11 years old.

From the photo it looks like they were members of a Coptic church. This must hit their group especially hard because numbers are dwindling for groups like Copts, Maronites etc and they have so few children.

And her husband stands by her what a joke

I agree but CA lets all kinds of criminals off easy; you get what you vote for 🤷‍♀️

Yeah, it's California's relaxed laws.

They were not young men at age 11 and 8. Just boys.

@@MindyMDoyleexactly!

@@yarnpowerJUST boys?

Thats the MINIMUM . Not allowed to even ASK for a paroie hearing til 15 yrs pass. The Parole Board doesnt ebven then have to grant a hearing.

​@@alphaomega5909they'll let her out.. thats why they sentenced her to 15 at the minimum and not at least 25 to life.. P.R.I.V.I.L.E.D.G.E.D!

@@alphaomega5909 Finally, a sane person. I'm starting to wonder if people know the meaning of words anymore, as in 'mimimum'. Idiocracy is truly upon us.

@@raghailligh1080 Thanks. I am not college educated. But I am retired county law enforcement officer . So I know about that part of Existence, lol. My Mrs, the briliant college educated . Shes a retired R.N from the Michigan Veterans Facility/Old Soldiers Home,Grand Rapids,Mi. I turn to her expertise on science,medicine. 😎💙⚓

​@@alphaomega5909she will be eligible for parole in 9 years (as per the district attorney).

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That was the maximum sentence allowed by law there, so the judges hands were tied

​@@gregputman She could have gotten 15 years to life for each child, plus 4 years for hit and run, so she should have gotten 34 years.

@@theshadowfax239 not the way that the district attorney prosecuted the case unfortunately

" Judge Joseph Brandolino is affiliated with the Democratic Party "

Believe me, neither you nor I would want to do 15 years in a state prison, especially with her "wealth". I am quite sure that her stint won't be very pleasant, especially in Kalifornia.

And 👱🏻‍♀️ 👱🏻‍♀️

Rich AND live in a liberal city/state!

@@gerin.6418 Texas is a liberal state? Look up the "affluenza killing". The word is" rich".

@@carolperdue7534 This case is in L.A. in California.

And the defendant lives in California.

Grossman is now 61 years old. If she even does the absolute minimum of 15 years she will be 76 years old before she would be eligible for parole. The California Board of Pardons is VERY unlikely to let her out at 15 years regardless of Good Behavior etc. So that means that she will likely be in her 80's before being released. I agree this should be a Life Sentence, but with her age and The Board of Pardons figured in, it most likely will be.

yt people protect each other

Good angle. I never knew she was married.

Worth as much as the life of the house? He can always make more, but those boys are not coming back

she'll be paroled in 8

Narcissist

Ppl wanna deny W-privilege & act shocked when ppl like her get less than 15 years & Bryn Spejcher walks free.

At one point she actually blamed the boys.

Well now you know when they say certain minorities are a protected class it's all lies. If anything you should celebrate. America works in your favor if you look like Rebecca.

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