Finally a mature Star Wars fan He doesn’t make a video crying about how the sequels suck even if he does hate them he doesn’t go on a 45 minute rant he makes video essays with compelling subjects involving the sequel characters this type of KZfaqr makes me proud to be a Star Wars fan

Kylo is by far my favorite character of the new trilogy, and even ranks up there as one of my favorite characters of all time. Adam Driver really nailed the role in every way!

“Can you see my surroundings?? I can’t see yours” while completely disregarding Rey threatening him was hilarious to me

I think Kylo Ren is the face of the sequel trilogy in my opinion. Everything about him is compelling in a way that's not just rare in Star Wars, but in cinema as a whole. Adam Driver's body language and facial expressions also sell it for me. He's turning out to be my favourite Star Wars character of all time, and that's something in a franchise where Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader exist. Also, the way that J.J Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan found a way to introduce him as the "New Vader" only for the character's biggest insecurity in the first film being not able to live up to him was very clever. Thanks for this deep dive into his character, I'm glad he's getting the praise he deserves.

This is the best analysis of Kyle/Ben I have ever heard. Also Adam Driver was phenomenal in this movie.

Ben Solo is so layered and complex. His life is so tragic, he has been manipulated and abused his whole life and was blamed for so many things (like the destruction of the Jedi temple) and took the blame for it because everyone believed he did it. For me the biggest mistake his family did, was to not tell him about Anakin and Vader. When he finds out like the rest of the galaxy he understands why everyone see him like a monster. It is so hard because I feel sorry for him, but understand the fears of Han and Leia, because they were tortured by Vader and Leia never forgave him. SO much tragedy in this story. The whole Organa-Solo family has lived through so much pain

Can we just appreciate how Kylo's first reaction is a slight hesitation... and then he just starts questioning what's happening by saying "can you see my surroundings? Cause I can't see yours" its just so casual its kinda wholesome and funny at the same time! XD

Just wanna say, from one SW channel to another, thank you Gold, for being a voice of reason and positive discussion in the Star Wars community. May the Force be with You...Always.

I love how with each film, Anakin’s saber gets closer and closer to Ben wielding it.

When I saw him kill Han Solo my jaw dropped to the floor. Adam Driver was awesome in this role. Also I really hated that they killed him off. So much potential wasted again.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I have been on this topic for a while now cause I actually enjoyed these films. I can absolutely see their flaws but I've never been able to dislike them and a lot of why, you've explained brilliantly here.

I'm so very glad you noted the face he makes at 14:55! So many people missed it! And it wasn't just a face of pain but that of self-realization. He had just destroyed the person who had loved him most and severed his own connection to his past. There was now no going back. He had truly, and literally burned that bridge.

Finding out that The Gold Man watches Cinema Therapy was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

I actually really like Kylo Ren. We've never seen any character in star wars regret the choices they've at such a profound level that it changed who they were. I like the acting differences between Kylo and Ben too, especially when handling a lightsaber-Kylo is more hunched over and uses big power swings and Ben is more upright and uses more graceful swings. At the end of TROS i thought disney was going to keep Rey dead and Ben was going to be the Skywalker that rose so I was disappointed.

29:30 I think an important note about what Kylo says to Rey is that he’s saying exactly what he would want to be told about his parents. Forget about them, they don’t care about you, let them go

Tbh, I didn't really like the sequels for a while, but at I look back there was a lot of potential there. It had a bunch of interesting concepts, Kylo being one of them.

Your 3 videos about Ben Solo is objectively the best Star Wars Trilogy I have ever seen

It's a shame TRoS is such a poor movie, because otherwise I really would like these characters more. You provide a compelling and optimistic look at Ben/Kyle, and for that I appreciate you

This really puts into perspective how even in "bad movies" there can be value. The sequel trilogy was inherently flawed, but it _could have been_ great if they had simply executed it better.

i’ve never understood the hate that these movies get; i think they’re amazing

I feel like Kylo getting his helmet fixed is meant to symbolize him trying to hide or fix the cracks he was left with at the end of TLJ, and the beginning of TROS, from the reveal of Palpatine having been pulling the strings from the shadows all along and that now he's his own Vader. He's not regressing back to trying to be like Vader, but be his own version of Vader how he could.

I love The Rise of Skywalker but I do wish we got to see more of Kylo's inner emotions and thoughts. We needed to see the fallout of him learning Palps is alive and been manipulating him.

Best video about Kylo Ren I’ve ever watched. Thank you so much! And I am very glad that there is someone who cherishes the sequels as much as I do!

Disassembling my Kylo Ren Shuttle Lego because I am moving while watching a The Gold Man video on Kylo Ren is blowing my mind

I am a huge huge star wars fan and the mythos Lucas taped into. I am also a grieving father of my 8 year old son and mother who both died last year. Anakin was always always always my character until this past year. I can't explain it but watching clips of kylo Ren help me deal with my grief. Perhaps it's being torn apart from his past. Perhaps it's feeling like so many mistakes were made there's no more hope. Regardless This has not only been one of the best analysis of Kylo but as the cyclical nature of the saga as a whole. Thank you for your positive attitude, insigh,t and time in explaining this tragic and compelling character so well.

Such a reasonable, logical and down to earth analysis!!! It's fun and serious at the same time! I like your videos but this is probably my favourite as of yet. Also, it's so nice to see fans (real fans) analysing the movies respectfully and, well, maturely. As a woman who is a fan of the franchise, it's been such a toxic environment while the topic was still fresh. Thank you for being so thorough and cool and reasonable!!!! Amazing analysis!!!!

I should've fisnihed watching the vidoe before I commented because you made the point to how Snoke explains why Kylo lost to Rey on Stakiller base. I don't understand how so many people can miss the imporntance and the whole point of this scene. If I hadn't spent so much time on writing my comment about the scene, I would deleted because you made my point. I love Kylo/Ben, he one of the best fictional character ever created in my opinion. He is well written and Adam is such an amazing actor. Adam using only his voice to express himself for most of TFA was more believable than most acting in SW before. I think all the cast of the Sequels is fantastic and did a great job. I couldn't agree with you more on everything you said. I've always thought the same thing about the battle between Kylo and Rey on Starkiller base. Snoke even explained in details to Kylo (and us) why Kylo lost that fight... Snoke to Kylo, a partial dialog between them. Snoke-"The potential of your bloodline, now I fear I was mistaken." Kylo -"I've given everything I can to you, to the dark side." Snoke- "Take that redicilous thing off. Yes there it is, you have to much of your father's heart in you young Solo." Kylo- "I killed Han Solo, when the moment came I didn't hesitate." Snoke-"And look at you, the deed spit your spirit to the bone. You WERE UNBALACED, bested by a girl who never held a lightsaber. You failed." It is so obvious when Kylo met with Snoke in this scene that he had lost a lot of his anger and conflict, he seemed defeated and broken, he looks like he has given up. There is no hint of anger in his voice. Snoke knows he is of no use to him if Kylo is not angry, so he humiliates and belittles him to ignite that spark of anger and hatred he lost. The importance of being balanced is mention so often in all the SW trilogied. If a force user is unbalanced they are conflicted, being conflicted means a person isn't sure about what they want or what they should do about it. Snoke explained so well the reason for Kylo losing to Rey, I don't understand how his specch to Kylo could go over any SW fan because SW fans should know why being balanced in the force is so damn important. Besides being wounded by Chewies bowcaster, he was conflicted and confused, both because he just killed his dad and what he feels for this girl Rey. He didn't want to kill Rey, he even offered to show her the ways of the force. Had he wanted to kill her he would've done that and done it fast, it is pretty obvious he is toying with her. I believe he even mentions the force when he has her pinned to an edge of a cliff, he want to know how strong she really is with the force, there is no way he would have given her that much time to tap into it instead of just killing her if that was not his goal for mentioning the force. In the comic about how Kylo Ren came ti be it is explained that her has a very curious nature, he is easily fasinated and he wants to learn and gain knowledge, probably something he got from Luke because Luke often took Ben and Lor San Tekka with him to look for ancient Jedi stuff. I love the Sequels, I love everything about them, they are just better than the other two trilogies in my mind. I wish ROS had been difftent and it could've been so much better but it is what it is and I am ok with it. It was a mistake to kill off Ben, I refuse to believe he is acually dead. He could've been with Rey after she died via their force bond when he brought her back to life. Because of their dyad he could do that without dying, they can toutch each other trough time and space without any harm. I have no problem with Palpatine returning because it makes sense, Palpatine told Anakin he knew how to cheat death so I don't understand why people are so angry about his returne and why people believe he was dead to begin with. I was sure he meant he could keep his spirit/soul seperate from the force after his phycical death, many Jedi can do the same, and the Jedi do not use the dark side like the Sith' do nor had accsess to dark side science like cloning.

They should really do an Adam driver show as early kylo

I always thought that Kylo talking to Han before his redemption is not him imagining his father but Leia projecting the last memory of Han she and her son both share. It also works in a technical sense because you know if Carrie hadn't pass away it would be her delivering those lines to Kylo not Harrison.

Great job on your character study of Kylo Ren. Now as for why Palpatine broadcasted his existence to the galaxy, I always viewed it as a way to lure in Kylo Ren since he needs him as his ideal host.

Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is definitely one of my favourite Star Wars character because the character was so complex and really amazing in his three movies

This is a really great and insightful video, Kylo is my favourite character of the Sequel Trilogy

This channel is so underrated

Great job on this effort. You really bring up some great insight on this character and his interaction with Rey. It's good to see a KZfaq channel focus on the Sequel Trilogy just like there are those that focus on just the OT or the Prequels.

Cinema therapy does have a wonderful video on this character to compliment this one and yes, they addressed the issues with his parents but Also that it made sense that when he meets Rey who is Also powerful, he sees her more his equal than most cuz he apparently learned one thing from his mother, Leia.

I loved this video. It's one of your best. It's a shame it doesn't have more views. You pointed out a lot of really cool details that I missed in the movies. Good job.

Adam driver must have some real back pain from carrying this trilogy for 5 years

Kylo is my favourite character in the first order reign trilogy, followed closely by Rey, Leia and Han I agree with your arguments against people saying “episode 8 is being fixed by episode my 9” which I never understood and found nonsense Which character studies do you plan to do next ? Are you only doing characters you like / think are great, 3 dimensional characters ?

It’s arguments like this that just flat out annoy me. Kylo is nowhere near the most complex character in the franchise. We all know that the actual character with the most complexity is Klaud, it’s idiotic to think otherwise.

One of my favorite scene in this movie what was when the emperor said “become with your grandfather Vader I could not” I believe when the emperor said that Ben felt that becoming like his grandfather father Vader was pointless so when he was given a task to do he decided to rebuild his mask again because he’s going back to his old ways becoming a Jedi killer not like his father but as supreme leader and the leader of the knights of Ren. And for the Emperor tossing Ben to the pit It’s a call back when Vader threw him on the pit so he did the exact same thing to him but Last Skywalker survived and rose from the dark pit.

Don't normally watch videos like this. But this was awesome thank you so much love the vid dude

Great Video dude! I wasn't expecting it to be any good lool But it was Awesome 👍🏾

Great stuff. Love Kylo/Ben. He’s my favorite character for sure in SW

I love your videos, you obviously put a lot of thought and time into making them. Thank you for the brilliant content you make.

You’re spot on with everything, except Rey and Ben clearly have feelings for each other.

thank you for appreciating and talking about the subtext in the scenes, i love them too!!

What's your opinion on Rey's "I did want to take your hand. Ben's hand" line? I've seen so many people saying that she's saying she only wants the good parts of him and I don't think that's true at all, but I'd like to hear your take on it.

thought our opinions differ at the end, your analysis is definitely a very good one. Great work!

Yo I've been awaiting this!

Love these videos

I love the sequels so god bless you and your channel , here’s my sub.

The best video about Kylo/Ben. Thanks for this!

I still say Finn was the awakening Rey was just stronger in the force. meaning once she felt a connection to Finn it supercharged what was a sleeping lion. who Kylo wakes fully during the interrogation.

still not done but man i gotta give you credit you really opened my eyes to alot of things i missed...and im not a huge sequels fan...still, thank you!

One of the best Star Wars Channels!

Actually the reason Ben was able to heal Rey is because Disney wants ahsoka to meet him in the world between worlds and she shows him how to heal her

What are other character study videos are you planning to do I really like them.

Only the Gold Man can trash on TROS while still respecting it!

AMAZING

Great video! 💖I love Ben Solo, even though he did bad things. They should have let him live…

The Thumbnail is amazing and better than part 1 and 2 thumbnail

I don't care what anyone says Kylo is a fantastic character and the Sequels are overhated, yea their bad but so are the Prequels! Both of these Trilogies have big problem's but I can still enjoy both of them. But what I hate is when people are like "Oh the Sequels are so shit but the Prequels are the best thing ever!🤓" Both habe really big problem's but there are still good things in the movies!

He’s like fire! Passionate and fiery

Thank you for the video.

I think that Palpy told Ren to 'kill the girl', knowing full well that Kylo would tell Rey about what happened to her parents. Rey would freak out (like she did in that scene) and either kill Kylo. Or go charging straight for Palpy and strike him down (which was what he wanted). It didn't play out the way he wanted because Rey Leia died and reminded Rey of who she doesn't want to be . Anyway I think that Palpy planned on ruling the galaxy through Ren. But when he found out that Rey was still alive he made her his number one plan (since they are genetically compatible) and he could transfer his soul into her body. And he would keep Ben as a back up.

Great video 👍👍

The Rise of Skywalker is my favorite Star Wars movie, and Kylo Ren is a huge part of why, Adam Driver gives one of the best performances in all of Star Wars, and his and Reys relationship makes the movie for me. Thanks for the excellent video Gold Man!

It gets even sadder when you read the prequel comic about him. He explains that his name has always been a symbol of his curse. Being named after Ben Kenobi some old wise jedi he never met that people expect him to live upp to since he is Lukes nephew. Solo is a reminder that he is in his fathers shadow and he even knows that it isn't Hans actual name just somthing he was given by random and not having any real meaning behind it. Its also reveald that from a young age hell maybe even before he was born Snoke/Sidious was grooming him to the dark side. After already feeling like he was living in the shadow of his whole family and wanting to be someone else Luke almost trying to kill him made him leave. Even more so than Anakin Kylo shows the ultimate folly of the dark side and how unless you are a legit monster it will only consume you and ruin your life. Even after killing his dad and everything else he did he never was fullfiled pretty much always being depressed and not truly having a way out. Basically all his life he was just a pawn for Sidious to get what he wanted and he was basically doomed to this path from the start. Its Anakins tragedy but really just pushed upp to 11 with how sad it is.

If you LIKE the character Kylo Ren, then you like TLJ. If you hate him, you hate it. This video really drove that home for me.

One of my favorite characters out of all media.

Great video essay

14:26 I completely agree that this is the most important part of Ben's character arc!

Only 800 likes on this amazing video is ridiculously low You changed my perspective of the last Jedi, I hated this movie but you made me realize the bond between the two is amazing

Not sure the connection was romantic? Are you kidding?! It was intensely romantic 😂 Great vid btw.

I enjoyed the sequels. Kylo Ren was expertly designed all of the way down to his cracked lightsaber crystal.

I think that after the throne room battle, after Kylo is "freed" and has the perfect oportunity to turn back and STILL chooses darkness... that's when Rey starts seeing Kylo as a lost cause. No "he needs to figure this out on his own", just "there's no changing him". It shows in how Rey starts to hate him again after that, not completely, but still.

I love Cinema Therapy's take, too!

Anyway have you seen the two Official Star Wars Visions trailer in both English and Japanese, because I would like to see your reaction and what your thoughts about them?

I'm both disgusted and fascinated by Kylo's mental processes. He both disappoints and achieves their expectations. Good and bad.

Hands down best character of Star Wars ever! And i grew up on the originals .

The guy had everything, a cool and smart mom cool vader cool and tough uncle and still turned to the dark side. How complex.

Ay Goldman how do u feel about Jessa Rhodes being cast as Aurra Sing in the Cassin TV show

Great video, but isnt a dark sider also a sith pls correct me if i am wrong

If there's any reason why kylo/Ben is so enduring and will always all we have to thank is Academy Award Nominee (Some day winner) Adam Douglass Driver he has absolutely no idea the impact he has made on this character and why people are still making such a big deal out of him he doesn't know the gift he brought bringing this character to life and immortalizing him. And you know what three or five years can go by and people will still be talking about Kylo/Ben Solo we don't need to have a movie right away he controls the conversation of "Star Wars" and lives rent free in our heads. (HAHAHA) I mean it we don't need to have another movie right away , The Boba Fett show can come and go, Obi Wan series can come and go like the wind, Cassian Andor's series can come in and out in a flash like the tide and mark my words everyone most everyone will still remember Adam Driver's performance as Kylo Ren/Ben Solo in the sequel trilogy.

Palpatine is double dipping.

well done, actually

Darth vader, Starkiller/ GM, Darth Malgus and kylo ren are my favorite sw characters

Why hasn't nobody called him kylo Ben it'd be hilarious like "hi kylo BEN" *gets chopped in half

I think fans will come around to TROS the older it gets. Hell, I'm already starting to see it happening. We can harp on some of the misfires of the film all day, but I think since people have cooled off they see just how much good the film truly has. It's only true flaw imo is that it should have been longer by at least 15 minutes. not because "it doesn't make sense" because it does. You just have to extrapolate more. I think it needs to be longer to let moments marinated more. I think Disney was scared to release a 3hr Star Wars film. With that said, I genuinely love everything they did with Kylo/Ben and Rey in TROS. And it's a GORGEOUSLY made film with some of my favorite settings in the entire saga. I have to mildly call you out a little though. You say the whole snake thing is "unintentional foreshadowing." No man, it's completely intentional, lol. It's quite obvious that's the entire point. You don't have her call him a murderous snake, then have her heal a literal murderous snake monster, and THEN have her heal the figurative murderous snake without it being intentional. That's how themes work, lol. That's how set up and pay-off and callbacks work. I think you calling it "unintentional" does a disservice to the film and sadly perpetuates the "they didn't try/care" narrative for TROS. Just because the film left fans split, doesn't mean care wasn't taken it crafting it. Not to sound aggressive, I just wanted to counter that little moment in your video.

“I’ve been looking for to this…”

Your analysis is brilliant on the characters. This was an excellent video. Your videos should be used in classes at the college level.

People like to say that Rey is a "Mary Sue", but she's not. Her problem is that the focus is too much on her, while the sequels are Ben Solo's story and not hers. He is ultimately the hero, not she.

Well to be fair Vader also killed sidious although he was redeemed in that moment so maybe a grey area but technically Kyle wasn’t the first to kill his master since sidious

men that's so true got a sub

3:00 oh! So that’s why I’m gay

Bwahahahhh!! "Nothing deep during the elevator scene." 🤣 Absolutely nothing but how deep Rey wants Kylo to go!! 🤪 They were fascinated/attracted to each other from spec one. If it was anyone else neither would have done the same. Aaahhhh Kylo's foot in mouth problems kick him in his ass when he tried to bring Rey into his side. I will however say Kylo's reaction to Luke on Crait is one of an abuse victim seeing the person that ignored the perpetrated abuse. "Fire every gun on that man." Is an absolutely irrational thing except for regressed trauma victim. I totally saw Rey/Kylo dynamic being reversed from TFA in TROS. Rey begins to slip to the Dark as her Palpatine roots seep to the surface. To me her entire attitude/mentality is her anger taking over. Her "Jedi" ideal is a complete surface sheen that soon melts off after his death.

Nice shirt!

love him

Definitly my favorite Star Wars character.

TFA is my favorite of the trilogy especially AD, as Kylo I wish the Knights played a bigger part!