Murdoch running this country and destroying another Prime Minister and the Labor party should have tackled him two years ago, Foreign ownership rules would have been a good start, I thInk Australians would love to have our media in our own hands,

When it all boils down to it. The problems we have are the corporate media.

That's pretty much Aussie politics in a nutshell. Any way you crack it, ordinary people are unrepresented at a Federal level.

A multi party system is better than what the USA have of a 2 party system.

Not enough Tasmanian's saw the juicemedia Tasmania video.

Coalition government give free money to their donors like building stuff that Tasmania doesn't need

I am 68 and as I descended from working class Glaswegian Scottish stock I voted Labor at state and federal level from age 18 to around age 50. It was the Hawk and Keating era that saw Labor start it migration to the middle ground and while most of the financial reforms it implemented where needed and the wages accord did work it was the start of a party that shed its left leaning look and did little to stop the privatisation of essential utilities and the public education system or mount any meaningful protest against the Howard era dismantling of workers protections that saw wages fall behind CPI increases where they still are today but with higher inflation making it even worse. In all the time they have had the government they have never tried to redress all these things that favored wealthy end of town. Their base was still the working class but their target was the middle white collar class that usually contained the swing vote. There abandonment of basic social justice has seen our public schools debased our social housing stocks plummet and energy prices become a joke. With both major parties pushing private ownership will deliver lower prices the public was on a hiding to nothing. Just like the Democrats in the USA our Labor became cozy with the corporate sector and now are not far away from where moderate Liberals would have been. Both parties target that % of the voting population that is the swing vote and all policy is formulated for it. That is why it changes all the time to suite the voting climate instead of targeting what is needed for a secure future. So I have voted Green for the last 18 years and not because I agree with all they say but because they are the social justice party now and not Labor. The treasurer said recently that the Greens are the "kooky" left, Well Jim that is where Labor came from and most of todays working class still live and if you keep taking them for granted at the ballot box then you will see many more independents and Green politicians.

Financial planning is like navigation. If you know where you are and where you want to go, navigation isn't such a great problem. It's when you don't know the two points that it's difficult

Something needs to change, all these pollies are playing it safe with no vision.

Labor, the party for the centre!! -Definitely not the party for people on the margins.

Summed up Labor perfectly, "without vision or risk". To afraid of their own shadow and to scared of ol' Rupes to do the right thing, they'll limp along and maybe, just maybe, get a second term. Those of us who set the bar low for our expectations of Albo, now realise we didnt set them low enough. So sad to see the demise of the party who I once supported enthusiastically.

I was an Independent in Tasmania this election. It's because the Liberals entire campaign for a decade... is don't vote Labor / Green. The local media repeats it. So Labor blame Greens for them losing votes. Instead of working with them, to hold Liberal to account.

Labor continually make me disappointed with a total lack of vision and appeasing their corporate masters to a similar degree as the Libs did. Behind the scenes there have been some impressive changes but overall nothing to write home about in the grand scheme of things. The Greens seem to be the only actually sensible player here with every day aussies at their core for policy.

Thank you. You and your team of honest journalists are the last people standing for the good of the people 🫡

Gotta say I’m thinking about independents. Aussie Bob

Labor could have veen so much better. My problem with the major parties is its always about impartiality and finding consensus. How are you suppossed to do that when the opposition are lunatics? Pretty hard to compromise with stupid. Labor need to grow a pair and standup for tgeir values rather than cow-towing to the system

the trend towards minor parties particularly Independents is good - major parties are puss

We need more minor party influence.

Surprised Labor didn't join the Liberals in a coalition, they have way more in common in regards to lobbyist money. I'm done with the major parties for the rest of my life.

The hubris of Tas Labor and their mere 29.2% primary vote expecting to rule in majority. This is one of Labor's lowest votes with Greens and indy's growing in strength nationwide. The writing is on the wall and all Labor sees is the existential threat that in a few years it may be irrelevant as a party.

Labor in Tasmania are hopeless, they were stupid to rule out governing with the greens, A majority for any party in Tasmania is unlikely in the future.

I can at least respect Tas Labor for not doing a deal just for power

They learned from their federal experience that you can’t trust them.

I feel sadly disappointed by Labor & I had such hope for them at the last elections!

I really like my local Labor state member and local Labor federal member (Macquarie) but I simply cannot vote for Labor anymore. Despite them being really shite at being an "Opposition" party (because they basically just went along with whatever the LibNatss did), I hoped and waited for soooo many years for them to get back into power and make things right (especially with education, health and the environment) and this cohort have been nothing short of disappointing. They might as well be Liberal. They are pissing their core left voters off. They forget they are indeed a Left party regardless of how they want to play it. This political fence-sitting won't save them. Albo, Plibersek and Chris Minns here in NSW in particular, are massive disappointments. Greens and Sustainable Australia will be getting my main votes.

The Labor I know is changing under Albanese. Looks like the major parties are slowly becoming mediocre. No more majors for me next election.

The sad thing is, in order to keep the LNP out of power, we need to ensure that Labor wins in it's own right but that sucks because Labor does not really deserve to hold power. They are better than the LNP but they still suck on many issues.

One day Labor will wake up to find the Greens and Teals have realised, that they dont need Labor. And have formed their own coalition. Bring on the Aqua revolution! The only rider i would put on that dream is the day the Teals find out that working with the Federal Greens is like driving a car with the kids kicking the back of the seats! 'If you kids dont behave, im going to turn this Coalition around!' They would be exhausting!

With Labor dominating the unions, progressive politics has been a slow grind to effect change. I honestly don't get Labor voters. The pretzel they have to twist themselves into to pretend they are socially responsible, let alone left, is a feat in itself. I don't think I've ever been so afraid of the Liberals getting in as now. A party that thinks further right is the answer, is incredibly scary.

A lot of how labor MPs feel about the Greens comes down to basic personal psychology. Many of them joined the party before the Greens were even founded. Getting their start in student politics, unions and socialist organisations. As the years went by they stopped seeing the party as the vehicle to achieve their ideological goals and instead their sole drive becomes ensuring the success of the party, leaving behind childish idealism for 'pragmatism'. Then they see the Greens becoming more successful and in the back of their minds there is a vague memory of having once stood for something and a nagging thought they dare not acknowledge that maybe they did not need to throw away their ideals. That is why they hate the Greens. They hate the Greens because they hate themselves.

"Labor no longer the party of the left" Labor left the left a long time ago.

The ALP and the Greens seem to be working OK in the ACT...just saying.

"Authenticity" - such a valuable commodity of which price is raised sky-high by its extreme rarity.

Because just like Qantas/Virgin & Coles/Woolworth etc etc LABOR / LNP want a fat cozy duopoly

There has been both a Lab/Green and a Lib/Green coalition in the past. The Lab/Green one was particularly unsuccessful imo. At least the Libs offered some power sharing in that coalition. If Labor was still a Whitlam type I think it would have success. If Labor still had strength in its social ideals, environmentalism, education, health etc they could find common ground, but yes, Labor is captured by its corporate lobbyists as much as the Liberal party in this state. I think we will be seeing the Liberals move further to the right. That has been essentially happening since the departure of Gutwein.

Labor has been a disappointment to say the least. Don't get me wrong they are a thousand times better than the LNP, but... that's too low of a bar to be impressive. And if they're going to refuse to form Coalitions with the Greens, ultimately preferring the LNP to be in power rather than share power, then they're never getting my vote again.

I'm finished with labor

The national ALP need to learn from Tasmania - for the first time in my Labor voting life, I will be placing the Greens as my first choice at the next federal election AND I live in a marginal seat !!!

this is my perspective on things too. A vote for greens is much help; certainly a bid on a better political context.

Last election I helped letterbox from a Teal, it's the first time I've ever volunteered - the reason? Simple, I won't vote for Labor, and I was the truest of true believers, and I could never vote for the LNP. Albanese has been a huge disappointment (though I knew he would be) - is there anything progressive and important that they won't either shelve or water down?

You should do a vid on the new path the ATO is taking. Even if you live overseas, you still have to pay tax..

The last real Labor government was Kevin Rudd's - now there was a picture of courage. Albo is too laid back.

ACT has greens labor coalition

I line up to an extent with the greens, but they can't control their excessive ideologies which do appear like a wish rather than a thing they or anyone else could manage . As for Labor, they need to ask Dutton for the details over his nuclear desires.

Hoping the Greens housing policy gives them a majority of seats

Counting and preference distribution has not been finalised yet. Rebecca White has stepped down as leader after stating that she would rule in majority. This clears the path for a new Labor leader to change the collective mindset of Labor and do a deal with the Greens. I wish the crossbench was the largest group in parliament. A government that is not Lib/Lab would be good for the state.

Sky News called James Patterson a rising star today. The guy who looks like a serial killer and life's ambition is to ban TikTok. 😂

The smartest people realised it 10-15 years ago: that if Federal Labor wouldnt budge, then you didnt need to holistically destroy the Labor party's strength in the electorate from the outside in order to achieve the goal of policy change-- you only need to win enough votes in certain seats to control enough of the electorate in grass roots ways (as the Teal voters have discovered having broken with the Libs) to be able to bargain for the balance of power in parliament. Either Labor wants power enough to work with you and you win on your implemented policy goals anyway, or they dont, and subsequently further alienate themselves from the electorate who increasingly value change and authenticity

Thanks!

I was a lifelong Labor voter. I voted Labor for every electi9n through all the Howard years. Not after the defunding of UNWRA and the general stance over Gaza. I'm leaning Green now.

Well at least in the next federal election sky news won't be able to say "Labor and the greens"

I wish these pollies could get over themselves and actually work together. I'm sure this government could have done so much more if they actually worked with the greens instead of trying to be the better "left" party.

Poor old ALP. Great to see MWM holding the opposition and Greens to account

Don't know how you can sit there commending the teals, Michael They aren't paid for by corporate Australia, they ARE corporate Australia (and the 1%). It's an incredibly dangerous development for what's left of the middle class 😢

Thanks Michael. Yep this is the question we've been asking since Monday when White threw in the towel. Labor have lost their soul.

I feel like Pocock is the only politician with common sense and decency, that represents the majority of Aus

I'm not shocked that Labor didn't want to govern Tasmania, once they get power they don't know how to wield it. Example: the federal government, never before have they had a better opportunity to make real reformist policy and shape Australia the way they want. Instead they opt to do soft reform and milquetoast policy. What does surprise me is that the Labor hopefuls think that losing government is some sort of bold strategy. You have to have serious brain worms to think that not forming government is some masterful gambit instead of what it is, fecklessness and incompetence. The Tasmanian leader resigning is clear evidence that it wasn't the gambit that Labor acolytes tell themselves it was.

Because Labor would have to be better, rather than copying the Liberal party. And also: donor corruption of Labor would be at risk of having sunlight poured into the workings of Labor's corruption.

Yes Westy - I totally agree with your analysis :)

The best way to understand the Albanese government is that it's a "prices and incomes" government, rather than a "tax and spend" government. Most of this government's policies have been directed at getting wages up and prices down. Price caps on energy, cheaper medicine, cheaper child care, building renewables and building more housing supply should drive prices down. Then you add a very left wing industrial relations policy on the minimum wage and collective bargaining to get wages going up. As for taxing and spending more - I suspect the government feels constrained by the high interest rate environment, and the memories of the 2019 election result. As a minor party, the Greens obviously feel no political or economic constraints, so they can go out there and advocate for higher taxes and bigger social safety nets and complain Labor isn't going fast enough.

This is why I only vote greens these days. Labor is the LNP lite. We need change in Australia not the same horseshit Labor follows the LNP with.

And yet, somehow, the ACT Greens and ACT Labor have found a way to make it work.

Bring on minority government. LibLab vote together to protect their corporate owners anyway.

Really runs against the taswegian motto "2 heads are better than 1" I'll call it "Untaswegian" behaviour.

Its the Labor liberal coalition against the community. Right wing antiscience party who chooses homelessness and wealth inequality over Australians

Labor's policies are closer to PHON than the Greens. While Labor's left base continue to bleed to the Greens, Labor has been bleeding to PHON since the late 90's. I grew up in a staunch Labor family(immediate, cousins, etc) and now almost of all of them are now staunch supporters of Pauline Hanson because she represents their social conservative Labor values. Why would Labor do anything with the Greens when Pauline Hanson is a better fit for them? I use to scrutineer. I scrutineered for many elections and have seen One Nation votes giving their preference to Labor. So much so that I've seen One Nation preferences help Labor win the seat. As for Labor hating the Greens, I see this as Labor seeing what they once were when they look at the Greens. Greens have shifted closer to the centre where Labor Left was and sliding into where Labor's Right use to be

Because Labors policies are more aligned to the Libs than Labor of old who were more aligned with the greens policies

Short answer: LNP and Labor are owned by the same big $$, Greens are not.

great work MW on what you do to change the media landscape and view

The parties should switch who they vote with based on the policy. Voting with Labor just because, is just plain silly

Brilliant bit if analysis...well done ✔️ 👏

For Labor to win, the question must be 'what will make current lib/nats vote left?' That draws them eternally towards the centre

I vote Greens for the best policies of any party major or minor.

Vote Green

Clearly Labor think Liberals are better for Tas than Greens. I'd be majorly disappointed if I was a Labor voter hoping for progressive reforms (if they exist, I'm pretty sure they do somehow).

Labor on the right? By what standard? LNP policy is further left than the Democrats' policy in the US.

We know who is Albo's boss.

They represent 2 different groups of people.. the greens are inner city university educated. Labour is still predominantly blue collar outer suburbs... the 2 parties might be technically both 'left' but there chasing different visions of Australia

Lambie is courageous and a strong voice for the average Australian

I think in the future Labor and the Greens will ve the 2 major party's. Unless LNP do a deal with the Greens. Liberal National and Greens Party.

The 2PARTY SYSTEM IS ON ITS LAST LEGS.

Sensible greens policy?? Bit like saying non woke labour policy. Or anti big business policy from libs. None of the major parties represent most Australians.

Maybe Albo's government will move the centre, which is the only way to bring lasting change.

Beautiful

I think we all know that Labor realised that centrism is what Australia wants after Dutton's shock loss in 2019 to 'unelectable' Morrison. It's just the reality of political life in a successful capitalist democracy.

Albo competent I don't think so.

The two "major" parties, basically different sides of the same coin, have realised that the voting public are getting to the point that they're are fed up with the status quo. The last federal election showed Labor barely stumbling over the line into government, the Liberals received a long overdue smack in the head, and the minor parties/independents got a bigger slice. Basically one third of the vote each. In Tasmania it was similar, although sadly we didn't go far enough IMHO, the Liberals, despite what the Premier claims, were handed a decent swing against them and no mandate earned, Labor gained (so far) only one seat, and minor parties picked up the rest. Liberals excuse for the early election was to get a majority government... well that failed. Personally I think the main reason for such an early poll was to get in before what will be a horror budget. If they went to the polls after, even the car crash that is the local Labor party could have achieved similar to what federal Labor did last election. The two major parties are so worried about the idea that the average voter has finally woken up and is rejecting their pathetic, petty tribalism and tactics of division, and turning to independents etc to get some semblance of true local representation, they are colluding at the federal level to change electoral law to make it harder for independents and minor parties to participate in elections. Please have a look at The Juice Media's video "Honest Government Ad | How to rig elections".

With the Trusted News Initiative and CTI League having a global reach, I cannot work out how we have a more fragmented media landscape.

Bring on the independents!

Nice summary of Oz politics

Greens would have to follow through rather than just complain if they worked with ALP.

Shortsighted to the max, but they’ve been like this for years…

Labor doesn’t hate the greens; it just knows that adopting greens policies (which perhaps they privately like) would render them unelectable. BTW, how left wing do you need to swing to be considered “independent”?

Did you say "allows Albo to govern competently"? Is that in the future?

"just keep voting them out"

Any chance of reducing the lip smacking at end of sentences? It comes through quite loudly on audio.

Because labor is no longer left but liberal lite...

Michael, there's nothing more I'd rather see than Labor being forced "into the loving embrace of the Greens". Being a leftie, I have not being at all impressed with Albanese & his centre right government. Albanese has been a major development as far as I'm concerned.

Labor is only slightly different to the LNP.

Labor stopped being Labor when Keating left, it's been downhill from there