Sandi- as a Vet Tech let me come to your defense. If anyone wants to understand why you must shear the sheep here it is. As the wool grows it gains weight, as it gets too heavy than your heath problems start. Lice, mites and maggots can start living on the skin and killing your sheep. Once the wool is too heavy eating and drinking becomes too hard than your sheep goes down infected and starving when you could have just sheared them. Sandi, please do not let them get to you. You haven’t done anything that isn’t good for their health.

From a retired old guy that enjoys 'our' sheep farm. ignore the negative. We love you!

People don't cry because they're weak. People cry because they've been strong too long.

I am reminded of the quote "Don't take criticism from people you would never go to for advice."

All the people complaining about Charlie’s shearing technique is just trying to take his business! Think nothing of it! Wish you a wonderful day!

Not shearing sheep is like not cutting, washing, and brushing your hair. It’s amazing that people will tell someone that they aren’t doing something right just because they do it differently.

Sandi, hang in there and be strong. People can be so horrible. You are AWESOME

There's more than 1 way to do a job and as long as the job gets done and the sheep aren't harmed, who has the right to judge? I'm so sorry you have to go through that crap. I watch the sheering video and I think Charlie and Alvin did a great job. I also think you're doing a great job and you don't deserve the crap that some people insist on giving you.

Ignore the ignorant. You have to do what you have to do. You're doing an amazing job, and you put your heart and soul into caring for each and every lamb, ram and ewe. You are an incredible woman and a top-notch farmer. Keep at it and disregard the stupid and hateful people. Thank you for posting these very informative videos, and letting those of us who can't ever be farmers live vicariously through you

That's too bad. After attending a shearing school I had never considered his shearing style "wrong", I was only curious where he had learned to shear like that. Shearing sheep is not only necessary, but an amazing art form where all shearers deserve respect for their hard work. It's upsetting because I love seeing these videos (I've watched all of them) and it shows how an industry works and what happens behind the scenes. So sorry to hear that, hopefully things get more positive.

Sandy the one thing to remember when dealing with the internet, is DON’T FEED THE TROLLS! You are doing what’s best for your sheep. They live a good life, are well taken care of, and are loved. Just ignore the trolls.

Sandi, You are totally right! Remember, you are the expert... Those spouting off, don't know (poop) that there are many things you must do to keep a flock healthy; from castration, vaccination, cutting off tails, etc. I'm an old farm boy and have raised plenty of animals for meat or pleasure. And learned at a very early age of the huge responsibilities to raise an animal in the most humane possible way. What I'm trying to say is... YOU are doing a fantastic job!

You do realize that the trolls LOVE to make you emotional - to know that they get to you. That is what they live for - to make people miserable and to question themselves. Most of the people that come to your channel love you and support you so don't let the trolls get you down. And thanks for letting us watch the shearing on the other video - Charlie is amazing!

Sandi, I hate that you have to deal with those idiots! I love watching your vlogs! You will never make everyone happy, but you make me happy sharing your babies! Stay strong and keep the Faith!

Sandi, a few years ago I had a friend who was always throwing hate at me, & I got so tired of it. I was invited to a gathering that I knew she would be at...was trying to gear up for more of her Digs...my husband took me by the shoulders before I left, and said “can I give you some advice?” I said “sure” as I was on shaky ground....he gave me a smirky grin and said “Lead with your left” I immediately started to laugh as he knew I never would try to hit someone...but it just took the pressure off and felt good to laugh about the stupidity of it all. So anyway Sandi... From another soft hearted woman to another....”Lead with your left” just thinking about it will make you feel more in control, and probably give you a good laugh!

I'm a Saskatchewan city girl. I know nothing about sheep, so am ecstatic I found your channel to learn about sheep farming. I say pfft to the haters and keep on keeping in. I look for your channel first every day.

That’s too bad, sheering is some of my favorite content. I know it’ll be hard but I think if you keep posting it along with your education and knowledge behind it will help take away the controversy and stigma. It’s your choice but I would keep educating people on how to keep sheep happy and healthy no matter what

It breaks my heart to hear the struggle in your voice... Sending you big hugs and lots of mint oreo's. Remember you are amazing. And those who judge must be perfect because truly they can throw stones from glass houses.

I'm a shearing contractors son in new Zealand. I love watching Charlie shear. Yes its different to anyone I have ever seen. Yes it works. That's how the industry gets better by people trying things. Love your work. Please keep it up.

Oh take heart you are doing so good and I learn so much from watching your channel! 😍🌈 I have a small Croft and lamb outdoors in the north of Scotland. It’s amazing that so much of the advice is the same, leave well alone as much as you can unless your gut tells you something is up, watch nutrition carefully in the last few weeks and get in early if a ewe is wobbly of staying away from the feed. Something I have learned this year is to use my sheepdog to help bond up new mums and lambs. My sheepdog is young and mad and not well trained, my fault, but for the new mums who are not certain they love their lambs if I take my dog to them on a lead they suddenly love those lambs! I also learned last year that fostering a lamb is difficult for our breed but that once the milk of that ewe has come through the lamb then it smells right and so I turned the ewe 4 times a day to let the foster lamb feed on her teat and once that milk was through she took it 😁 xx

Sandi, you are amazing don’t let negative ppl get you done. I love all your vlogs. Keep doing what you are doing. You know your doing it right!! ❤️❤️❤️

as someone who recently went viral on another platform and had a TON of awful things said. mean people attack every aspect of your life and its so hard. you are an amazing person and for what its worth I love your shearing videos they are cute, fun, and informative. your sheep are OBVIOUSLY LOVED and cared for, I can tell this and I've never even been around sheep in real life. keep doing what you are doing, because you are doing amazing

People who don’t farm will ever understand. They want them to be your sweet baby pets. They live a good life. You’re doing a great job. Keep on doing it!

I don’t understand how it was “wrong”. They didn’t get hurt. They didn’t die. They weren’t being shown, so the sheering was functional, not for looks. I actually enjoy watching sheering...it is very satisfying. I live in TX, and I have NO intentions of ever having a sheep farm. I came across your videos as a KZfaq suggestion, and I got hooked. Keep up the great work!!

Set the boundaries that are healthy for you and carry on!

I'm surprised there's such negativity with shearing sheep. I enjoyed watching and I see nothing wrong with doing it. It definitely seems necessary for their well-being.

Please don't get discouraged, I think you are amazing with doing all your jobs. Everyone will tell you something different so just do what you r doing luv your videos

It breaks my heart to see you upset over incompetent people, you do a great job taking care of your sheep and I love and also look forward to your videos everyday. I know it's hard not to take criticism to heart especially when you work hard to show us your daily life when you dont have to. I thank you for a little ray of sunshine in this tough time for everyone ❤ lots of love from south texas!

You are amazing Sandi! Never forget that!

You are so correct in saying that everyone has there own way of doing things. I use to work in plastics, and when I trained people I always told them “this is how I do it, follow what I do, and tweak it and make it your way.. sad to not see Charlie anymore. Head up woman, you are doing a marvelous job. Love you

Hang in there Sandy. You'll get your fight back. YOUR AMAZING, and you Teach US EVERYDAY ABOUT THE LAMB/Sheep industry. THANKYOU. Try not to let the trolls get to you.. they are just miserable people looking to make someone else more miserable than themselves. I respect your hard work and the knowledge you share with us everyday.😊

Don’t let the opinion of others who are unkind get to you! You are doing an amazing job!! I love watching Charlie and Allen shearing!

I enjoyed the shearing! They were sheared amazingly!

I'm so sad that these negative Nellies have caused this upset. I love learning about and watching these sweet little lambs. I have worked on farms before when I was young. Now I just sit behind this screen and watch with the joy that you have for your life and living.

It is really PATHETIC that people criticize everything these days, maybe always. If we gave every subscriber $1000, they would complain it's too small. Remember, "If you don't have something nice to say ...." You are fabulous Sandi, just as you are.

You’re an amazing farmer, dedicated, professional and very hard working mother. Ignore the haters! They do that to everyone else on KZfaq. You are doing great.😎

Charlie does a great job on sheering to be honest with you nobody's perfect at that it's not an easy job so whoever said it since they think they know it all have them come and sheer just saying. NOT HATEING ON NO ONE

I just went through and watched some different shearing "techniques". Charlie has his own 'technique'. There is no one set way to shear a sheep, it's whatever works for the shearer. I wish I could tell you to ignore the negative comments, the comments that tell you you're doing everything wrong. Your sheep are happy, healthy and productive. You care about your livestock, and that's what's important. I know it's hard for you to ignore the crap that some people will say, but you're doing just fine. If you were not, you wouldn't have over 100k subscribers.

Sandi you are a strong woman! Please do not let these TROLLS get to you! We (cause I know there are a lot of us) stand beside you and behind you! I have no idea of what you do day in and day out but what I can say is you are a GREAT mom and a bad ass worker. Keep your head up, WE have your back!

Watching those sheering videos just seems cleansing to me! The sheep look happy, healthy and clean when they are done!! Haters are going to hate no matter what ya do. I'm in your corner ❤️

I actually love seeing the sheep shearing! Don’t listen to those negative posts! I think they treat the sheep very well as do you!!

I remember the start of a sermon, issued by a Bishop on Easter Sunday, "People are no damned good." Your video today made those words pop into my mind. I was outraged when I heard your voice break as you tried to defend Charlie and sheering. I was heartbroken when i saw what the poisonous comments of people have done to you and (selfishly) to those of us who love your channel. But you do what you have to do because your life - your family, your home, your business - has to be more important that what you share with us who are your fans. I am an animal lover, who has cared for many animals and loved them all. Who is very connected to God, to nature and to the outdoors. Who has lost all interest in PETA because of the way PETA followers abuse farmers and ranchers who do things they don't like (like raise animals for meat or sheer sheep for wool). I come from farmers who homesteaded in Nebraska and grew crops and farmed. One was a dairy farmer. Another never sold a horse, donkey or mule once it was in his possession, he just couldn't do it. I believe all of them would support me in sending you love and hugs and any kind of encouragement you need. You do you and know that your fans are thrilled to support you. Hang the rest of them.

Oh Sandy, I just love you and what you do. People are just hateful sometimes. Don't let them steal your thunder. Sending love your way. You're an awesome person and it's so very clear how much you love your sheep. ❤️

I'm a veterinarian in TX. ❤❤❤❤ You are right about how different we are from each one. It's the best decision based on the negative of the idiot's that doesn't understand how great you are a great producer. Your heard is so well taken care of. Don't let them get down. Its your business and the health of your herd.

So sorry Sandi. Thank you so so much for all the lessons about sheep farming, we appreciate your passion and love for your work. We perfectly understand if you don't have to share any more shearing videos for the sake of your peace and sanity in these online streets. Sending you love from Nairobi, Kenya ❤️❤️

I wish people would understand that the sheep suffers if they DON'T get sheared! I love you and your channel Sandi so keep up the good work. Sincerely, a 20-year-old entrepreneur student :)

Going up on a horse farm the way my mom made time for herself was a looong trail ride, like all day. Pack lunch/ water/TP and just go ride. Those were the best. She has late stage Parkinsons so to have those memories of us together is a blessing. So a guess what I'm saying here is this, tske time you, for your family and your husband. Farming is wonderful life, filled with hard work, pain, and the joy and satisfaction of a days work. Thank you for all the hard work you put into making these videos for us to watch. F

I think you are a real great lady. I don’t know anything about farming or lambing but I love the way you do your job. You have so much passion. Keep going. You inspire me

Shearing is so interesting. The sheep look so good with all that weight off. People don’t know what they are talking about. You do a fine job of representing the sheeting industry. We love you.

I really enjoy the shearing videos! You should be allowed to post and vlog what you want to without getting this much negativity. You can really tell how much you care about your sheep and it’s amazing! You keep doing what your doing because your doing such an amazing job and I’ve learnt so much from your channel. We love you Sandi ❤️

Sandi don't be discouraged, i really enjoy watching how beautiful the sheep transform after the shearing! There will always be naysayers, no matter what anyone do, Please don't let them steal your joy ! You are a beautiful person with a awesomely beautiful spirit,

Chin up girl. People right now have nothing to do and just wanting people hurt like they are. Your sheep look good. Block these haters off of your channel.

Was suggested by KZfaq to your channel and Mark's, truly enjoy both just because I always learn so much. Don't let the ILM,( Ignorant Loud Minority) get to you. What you have created here is compassionate, authentic, informative and I look forward to each episode. Buying you and Mark a beer just got added to my Bucket List!

I really like the Q &A, I’m a bit (okay, more than a bit) in love with your flock, and look forward to your vlog. While I will likely never have sheep of my own, I love learning about everything sheep related. People can be really hurtful and mean on social media, and become “keyboard warriors” and think they know everything, but they’ve probably never worked with animals ever. And yes, I love your sheep, but also enjoy eating lamb. I’m glad that you are taking weekends off, you deserve a break!

I’m sorry they are getting you down. You do an amazing job as and always put the best interest of the sheep first. Unfortunately people that are uneducated in sheep farming feel the need to tell you how to do your job. I’ve learned so much by watching you. THANK YOU for all you do.

Sandi take 48 hrs. Regroup, sleep in , have your favorite dinner, enjoy some wine spend time with the family. And don’t look at your comments for 48 hours. Ignore the negative comments, and get some rest! ❤️🙏🍷🐑🌸

I love shearing day and everyday on your farm! I look forward to seeing your smiling face everyday!

You are doing amazingly well . Don’t let the negativity get you down . I love all your videos girl they are very educational and fun and relaxing to watch . Don’t give up . We love ya

Love watching about sheep and every part of it don’t understand why people and platforms get so negative. From breeding , birth , growing and death it is all part of it.

Hi Sandi Please don't let NEGATIVE COMMENTS upset you! Don't show them it got to you! I do love your honesty but those type of people thrive on upsetting others! They will only continue to be negative to make you upset!! BLOCK those negative people from seeing your videos ans sending comments. Your videos are very informative especially for those of us who don't know " how to farm sheep. " I have farmed everything but sheep, goats and cows. I think ALL your videos are informative, educational and fun!! You take the time to educate us all about planning, the cost to building a barn, equipment with stock and feed. You also let us all know if something went wrong you investigate the issue. If you don't know you consult your vet "Rex" to find out what possibly happened. I love the lambs frolicking around as they are so funny!! You even take the time to splint a lambs legs to help them heal, you give sheep medication to when you see that are not doing well and you consult your vet. You have a nutritionist to create your sheep's food for when they are pregnant, change it after they give birth and then when the lambs are weaned again you switch them to a maintenance ration! I feel blessed to know you are providing a great product for those who eat lamb. Keep up the great work and please continue with your awesome videos! I look forward in watching them daily. Please check your email for a message from me. Blessings Donna Cobb of Florida

Hey sandie I am a new sheep farmer my sheep are hair. The first video I ever watched of your was shearing. Do not give up u are have impacted my sheep style. At 12 o’clock I am always like did she post yet. There is always a video that makes me smile. You are a good sheep farmer don’t give up on KZfaq.

Hi lady my name is Sharon and I was raised on a farm. We had beef, a lot of beef. My dad had polio all down one side of his body, so only one good hand, He had one son and 6 girls, Needless to say us girls had to work at a young age. there was a lot of people who did not like this, and they raised a lot of ruckus. But u know no one offered to help. My mom told them all to shut up and go away. U remind me of her. Very Strong No Nonsense Woman. When my parents retired they had enough to live good for the rest of there lives. My mom turned 90 last yr, sadly dad passed from cancer. But they were happy. Do not let any of these people get u down because at the end they won't be there, u will be, and u can look at what u have done with a proud feeling that a lot of people will never know. Stay strong lady, u r not alone..

I was so saddened to see the emotional toll this is taking on you. I believe with all my heart that if you stay strong you will come out stronger on the other side. It’s very, very difficult to grow a tough skin but this is what you need to do. You have a great business, a wonderful family and all of your KZfaq followers who totally support you. Keep strong and know there are a lot of people holding strong for you 👍😉😊

I have been watching you channel for a while now, follow you on instagram and tic toc (which actually sounds creapy, when I put it like that 😂) but you’re content is AMAZING. Don’t let them get you down, you can’t and will not please everyone and there is so many of us that just enjoy the content and don’t judge you. Xx

Maybe those saying it's "Cruel" to shear a sheep should own one for a few years and watch it die/suffer so they know how bad that wool gets! And for those that say charlie isn't doing it right take a look at those happy sheep and tell me why you think it's wrong! They look happy to me and they are comfortable and that's all that matters!

Yay! I'm first today! I really enjoy your videos. I admire your passion❤ The online world can really suck sometimes. Try to keep your chin up. Some people just can't be educated. I'm sorry you are having a hard time with the trolls.

This city slicker has learned so much from your channel, you can tell how much you love your sheep, and as long as I been on this earth I've always seen sheep being sheared, At the Calgary Stampede they had sheep shearing races, I love your channel, and I love watching the sheep get shear, They look so much better, It like me and my dog he needs to get sheared or a hair cut too, Thanks again for your vlogs 🐑🐑

I love this channel. Every day I look forward to seeing your sheep and it makes my day. How others out there look down shearing is completely out of there minds. I actually enjoyed the one time you placed the shearing you posted a while ago. Don't let the haters and may Sayers say any different. "Don't stop believe'n, hold onto that feeling."

LOVE LOVE LOVE your channel and EVERYTHING you've shown me and taught me. I don't have sheep but have been interested in getting a few babydoll sheep. Sheering is just like grooming a dog, we don't want them to have heat strokes or get knots in their hair. I wouldn't post anymore videos either, you don't need the extra stress. You've been a blessing to see someone work so hard and have ups and downs like all of us. Sending love! :)

I love shearing day. I'm amazed at how they make it look so easy. I'm sorry people are so mean.

Dearest Sandi - I’m so glad you’re brave and show what it’s really like to sheep. There’s soooo many different ways to raise anything and the opinions abound! I just got a hive of bees and goodness! The information out there is endless!! I’m so sad people are being negative about anything concerning raising animals. Sheep have been known to die because of not being sheered, if they get wet they can’t move and they starve and die of thirst. They’ll die of the heat, etc and it’s truly cruel NOT to sheer them. God bless your work! I love what you’re sharing and I’m learning over here as you go along! Loving all the lambs! The lamb races are my favorite ♥️ Big hugs from California 🤗

“The uneducated are always the loudest” has always stuck with me in situations where people are just plain ignorant. Don’t let trolls bring you down! You do an amazing job keeping your sheep happy and healthy! ♥️

When u know ur tired but u still have to do work Love ur videos

I’m so bummed that people are so negative towards your shearing videos (or any of them!). I’m so thankful for your content Sandi. I love seeing the sheep all pretty and sheared. It’s a tough job and Charlie and Alvin deserve mad props for doing it! I agree with another commenter though, you set your boundaries and live happy. I thank you for what you have posted previously. You have taught me a LOT! Going forward, enjoy shearing day without the haters. Much love.

Shearing is good for the sheep, it prevents disease and helps with the overall health with the sheep. We have always sheared and I always found that, in the words of my late father "those that think they know it all, do know it all, bugger all". Keep going, you are doing great.

There is so much negativity throughout society now. It's everwhere. It's sad for them. Stay positive. You are appreciated and loved for the work you do on your farm teaching and entertaining us.

People can ask questions BUT to be critical... makes me emotional too. Where's the kindness in people? I so enjoy being able to be apart of something so different from my own life. Have heart. Sending good thought. ❤

You have more people the like you job and the humble way you do the videos. You have a beautiful heart and smile. We can see you passion for you work in those tears. Keep it doing. Bless from New Jersey and Costa Rica

Thank you Sandi! You are being so informative with everything you do. I so miss my animal's. Look forward for the garden progress.

As someone trying to learn from you, I really want you to know how grateful I am. Thank you for everything you share.. good and bad! I think sheering is an amazing process. I'm scared to death to attempt it myself when I get a few sheep. You are blessed to have Charlie and Alvin! Please let them know that some of us viewers deeply appreciate their work and we apologise for the heaters of the world. He has his own method and it works beautifully! I watched a sheering competition the other day and those poor babies were bleeding everywhere. I don't understand how that's ok on you tube but your guys who actually care about the animals doing an occasional nick are worthy of hate? People need to grow up!

Can you delete the bad ones,some of us are watching and learning.We watch every day.We would like to keep your service.

Chin up my girl!!’ When people don’t know what they are talking about they shouldn’t comment...but you can’t fix dumb! You are doing a great job...I used to raise sheep( don’t know it I can even call it that as we lambed only once a yr) and only had maybe 50 sheep...nothing like you!! You’ve got this girlfriend!!

Hi again SANDI Plz BLOCK those ones that are being critical and nasty! Do it as soon as you detect something when reading. Don't read the remainder and poof they can be gone. They're people who are jealous have a grudge about something unrelated hateful who get their kicks out of hurting someone or someone who undermines your success because they want to try but don't and plenty of other reasons too. You have a tender sweet and kind heart and those are the ones getting the biggest thrill to hurt. Who knows could be someone envious of your nice family! Besides that you do have to have some degree of a tough heart so you won't be so easily upset. Keep working at that and all will be much happier in everything you do. You've done a great job with this bunch! Be proud of yourself! Your hard work and dedication has been terrific. Asking questions finding answers etc is how we all learn. Even the best of us and most professional and accomplished can always learn something. No one ever knows it all... Thx as always for sharing all that you do. Keep on keeping on and stay the lovely person that you are!!

Sandi I hate seeing you so upset, I think most people simply don't understand. Your such a lovely person u would never do anything to hurt your sheep xxx

If it is a toss-up between posting shearing-videos or your mental health the choice is easy. Pick your fights, we all know you fight for what you believe in but some things are just not worth it.

This is the biggest problem with everyone being so out of touch with where their food and wool/alpaca/etc fibers come from! It is absolutely essential to shear a wool sheep for their health. It’s akin to getting a haircut and if there’s a little nick it’s just like getting a little cut from a razor when shaving whatever a person shaves! It doesn’t hurt! You are to be commended for taking such good care of your animals! You work long hard hours to make sure the sheep are well cared for and want for nothing!

I’m so sorry about all that negativity that’s going your way. You are a great person and a even better farmer 👩‍🌾

You're one of my heroes, Sandi. Don't let the internet trolls get you down.

Sandi, I'm so sorry that you had such a challenging weekend! As someone who goes to KZfaq just to see if you have a new vlog out, please know that if I could just reach through and give a warm squishy hug. Oh, and a throat punch to those trolling you! You are just a wonder to me and so amazing to watch and listen to. Do what is best for you and your self esteem, but please know you are treasured by most of us! 🤗💐🌺🌼

You are amazing sandi, for the ones who are negative there is more that are positive for you. If I can put it the way I see it, as long as the family, you and all them sheep are healthy and happy that's all that matters. We all love you ♥️🐑

Sorry to hear that people are judging you. Your an amazing farmer. Charlie does a great job on the sheep. I've watched many people shear and they all have their own methods and techniques when it comes to shearing. If people don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all. Keep up the amazing work. I want to run my own sheep farm one day...

I loved watching the shearing ! Sandi I appreciate you showing the world how and where our food comes from these videos should be shown in schools for teaching about real life ! It has all the human elements that is wrapped in life itself god bless you sandi

I’ve never commented before, never enjoyed a ‘program’ like I enjoy this one .... please hang tough with the mean-kids. People are ignorant sometimes. ❤️

CHIN- UP, I think your doing a great job trying to educate everyone on a job you love to do. There is an old saying "if you cured cancer tomorrow they would complain you did it wrong". I'm a city slicker so I really enjoy what you do....

35 years ago I lived by a neighbor who told me many times. THE WORLD IS FULL OF EDUCATED FOOLS. How true these words were then and even more in today's world. We enjoy what you share. Thanks

What the hell is wrong with some ppl and KZfaq! If you don’t like it don’t watch it! And if you have nothing nice to say don’t bother saying anything at all... I love Sandi, she is a completely transparent shepherdess and I for one enjoy learning from Sandi. She is now part of my life! Sending love from the U.K. 🇬🇧💕

Sandy you do an amazing job God bless you and your family ignore all the people that are negative to you you're a kind-hearted woman and so is your husband keep up the good work

I love what you do and how you share it with us! Some people will be hateful no matter who or what is being shared. Chin up you guys are doing a great job.

I am so sorry you are going through this Sandi. The people who criticize you seem to forget no one is making them watch your vlogs. They should get their own vlogs and hate on them instead of being aholes on yours. I’ve learned so much from you and I’m not any type of farmer. There are a lot of non farm lessons I’ve learned from you. And your braveness astounds me. When I saw you put Ruthie down I cried and cried. You are a wonderful human being who has a great heart and you love your sheep. You have a lot of people who love you for being you. Pat

I support everything you do!!! You are great and love your animals l hate to see you upset by a bunch of a holes!!! The fact that they get upset because you are sheering your sheep tells it all. Sorry that it upsets you but you keep doing what you do. They are not mishandled l think they do a great job on them.