Land Rover Discovery 2 V8 Crank Shaft Sensor

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7 жыл бұрын

I am not a mechanic, I only play one on KZfaq. A quick video on some time saving tips on the Installation of this oddly situated part. Plus a run down of symptoms on a failing sensor.
Side Notes: I did use jack stands during the installation (thank you all for your concern) Be sure to use OEM LR parts, these vehicles are finicky and off market brands will not last as long.

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@RidgeReaper90 Жыл бұрын

Make more vids. Your good at this. No stupid music playing and just correct info. Good work.

@robmarino6787 Жыл бұрын

thanks Josh

@mvilla36 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video and help me out today I got stranded 60 miles away from my house had to get it towed home and went straight to work on it turned out perfect thank you

@jamusdreamin 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for this, got my D2 up and running again. Just a tip if you use a small socket set with extensions the nuts are very easy to get off don't even have to put hands up there. Also used a long screwdriver to remove the harness from the bracket easily from underneath

@paulcusack7318 3 ай бұрын

Well done, the small access hole in the drivers side inter fender is key to a fast install. 10min.

@robmarino6787 3 ай бұрын

This is a fantastic tip. Thank you

@toddn.kenyon6900 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid. Fixed my issues w/ random stalling while underway (electrical system fine). A few comments: removing and reinstalling the shield and sensor is super easy, used a small ratchet and sockets. A short wobbly extension may help. Unplugging connector was aided by long screwdriver to wedge the locking tab open. The BIG PAIN is reattaching the new sensor to harness. My harness had almost no slack, so the plug could not be pulled down or over. No way to grab it from the topside and the mounting clip blocks access from below. Barely reachable from below via long skinny arms. can't get two hands on it (and I am pretty slim). If I had only 2 more cm of wire in harness it wouldve been much easier, and 5 more cm it could even be grabbed from above. Different vehicles may vary on this. It may be worth using a mirror and looking to see if you can free up some length in the harness. I was minutes away from dropping the exhaust which would allow two hands up there. Finally my wife somehow did it after 90mins of trying. The clicking of the connector locking wa one of the best sounds ever. You should be prepared to drop the exhaust from the manifold in case you cannot get it (only 3 bolts but we all know how much fun they can be). One of those skinny reacher/grabber spring claw things could be useful - I may have been able to hold the connector from topside with one of these giving the wife something to push against. Anyway this is a 15 min job that likely takes hours due to lack of access.

@robmarino6787 Жыл бұрын

very helpful info, glad I could help.

@danpeterson114 5 жыл бұрын

Great Video Rob! Many thanks! Your accomplishment was an inspiration for me to attempt to do it myself, as I do not claim to be a mechanic either. You saved me an over $700.00 that a garage wanted to charge me for the same work. I discovered a little trick you didn't show which enabled me to do it just under two hours. You might add this note for others to try... Instead of pulling the plug up with the wiring harness, I was able to wedge it in place with a really big screwdriver coming in from the side with my right hand, and I could both unplug and replug it in place that way.

@robmarino6787 5 жыл бұрын

Hey very happy to help.Great info Dan, this was my hope that people would build on the info and provide further tips to help make this easier! Merry Christmas.

@jenniferhuber2267 3 жыл бұрын

Hey there!!!! Just got my first Disco (2004 LR2)!!! So excited, but ended up with what sounds like the same issue (I’ve consulted with my enthusiast dealer, who has also suggested it’s this based on my description of symptoms and consulting forums)...I’m excited to give this a try on my own! Hope to have a video of my own installation and will share!

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

Any Luck?

@grantgee2842 5 жыл бұрын

Very helpful thank you. Having the same problem with P38 RangeRover 2001 model

@MIL-STD 3 жыл бұрын

This got me on the way to work the other day... it's at the mechanic right now. Thinking about stealing it back and doing it myself lol.

@dalp6657 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Like replacing a radiator on this car is also pin in the S.

@Vanessa-gl7gx 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very helpful.

@JUKE179r 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! The first new Bosch CkPS I changed out made my 2001 Disco run sluggish af. Drove it for 2 months thinking it couldn't be the CkPS because I recently replaced it with a new one. The last straw was when I got the flashing M&S and went into limp mode. I changed out the sensor with another new Bosch sensor and it runs waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better now! Go figure... I love my Disco... and i hate my Disco...

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

What sensor it you change out? for future reference, haha.

@JUKE179r 6 жыл бұрын

my bad... crankshaft position sensor... Ckps

@xrguy650 5 жыл бұрын

These things are sensitive about that certain part. It's about how the materials take the heat in that location. Pretty much anything but the bosch made one goes bad quick. Had 3 from the parts store that went bad between 4 to 6 months b4 i went online and bought the specific bosch part number that works like a charm

@danpeterson114 4 жыл бұрын

@@xrguy650 Mine went bad after a year. I think it may not have been a Bosch one. That's the one I will get this time!

@MrJonRoy 6 жыл бұрын

Thank-you very much, real helpful

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

so glad I could help. thanks for the comment.

@mohamadali2127 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! Thank you for this video it helped me few months back, now i m having the same exact issue again and not sure if I should replace the same part or change the coil pack this time, I appreciate it if you got any comments on the subject.

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

Make sure you didn't buy an aftermarket item. LR's are very picky and lots of aftermarket parts do not last. Especially when it comes to the sensors. I have heard from other people if its an OEM part it only lasts a few months.

@gagemccall1957 4 ай бұрын

Hey there just seen this I have a 2001 disco SE myself…. I’ve been having very similar symptoms and have done extensive research and believe this is the culprit just curious, to this day have you had any issues with those same symptoms or did replacing the CPK sensor permanently fix your issues?? Thanks for the video very helpful

@robmarino6787 4 ай бұрын

This did permanently solve the issue. But I must stress to use OEM parts, I have heard from others that off brand senors only last a month or two then problem comes back. Good luck man, let me know how it works out.

@gagemccall1957 4 ай бұрын

@@robmarino6787 Thank you for the reply! I ordered one off of Atlantic British, will be here Wednesday, I’ll wait a week or so and come back let you know how everything goes!!

@mml1224 5 жыл бұрын

hey Marino- went to autozone, and loaned out their scanner for 140$ deposit. Everyone I spoke to including the c*ckS*ckin dealers all said , i had to come in on my hands and knees for 189$ charge, and I told them to stick. The loaner, gave me the option to delete the code, and it STARTED right up!!! The little guy won one today! cheers

@robmarino6787 5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome!! Great news and good to know about that option. Thanks for letting us all know.

@matthapaq9618 Жыл бұрын

Good Day Rob, mate thank you so much for your precious time doing this video, Could you please tell did you feel any losing a little bit of power then it hold it self then send all power back again special with the transmission you feel something is holding all this what told u it’s only for few seconds then drive back normal? Cheers Matt

@robmarino6787 Жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, if you talking about a symptom of it failing then yes. That jerking motion, as it seemed to lose power then gain again did happen. Usually in low idle.

@benjaminleming7971 3 жыл бұрын

Helpful for me in locating it. Thanks. Still sucked changing it. The placement of that thing is stupid.

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

Dont I know it!!! Glad I could help.

@Snoop121975 6 жыл бұрын

Had this issue on my 2000 disco 2 about seven or eight years ago . Replaced the crankshaft sensor in 45 min . Think I’m having problems with the crank sensor again . Hard to start but when started runs fine . I’ll find out soon .

@erniestoner8266 6 жыл бұрын

Charles Young From what I've researched these act up when they get hot. At least that's when mine acted up.

@JonFaulkenberrySeattle 6 жыл бұрын

thank you

@manuelmachado1276 4 жыл бұрын

very very hepful

@darcywright1806 6 жыл бұрын

HOW DO YOU UNPLUG THE SENSOR? Do You Need to Slid it to the Right or Left?

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

the multiplug rests in a harness, you slide it towards the rear of the car. Once out of the harness you can reach from top of the engine to unplug.

@matthewdevine113 4 жыл бұрын

Do you think I’d be able to use a regular 7mm socket to get those bolts out? Thanks

@robmarino6787 4 жыл бұрын

sorry for the delay, there is not much room up there, unless you can disconnect the manifold. I used a mini wrench with the 7mm and 8mm sockets.

@matthewdevine113 4 жыл бұрын

Rob Marino no problem! It ended up being a tight fit but I was able to get it off. Tightening the bolts was the hard part! Thanks for making this vid, it was very helpful.

@robmarino6787 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdevine113 hey glad it worked out. Very happy to help.

@sjepson100 6 жыл бұрын

how do you unplug the electrical end of the sensor? I have a 2003 Discovery II SE 4.6L automatic with secondary air. It does not appear to be accessible at all from the top. Very difficult to reach from the bottom. I have the sensor end unplugged, now I do not see how it is possible to unplug the electrical end of it.

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

Hmmm Steve, once I was able to slide it out of it's harness it became quite visible from the top of the engine. It slides out pushing it towards to rear. (in my 2001 it did). I had to reach down below the manifold and used 1 hand to unhook. perhaps in the 2003 its a little lower.

@sjepson100 6 жыл бұрын

Rob Marino - I finally got it out and back in! Without taking off the exhaust below or the secondary air crap above. It was not possible for me to reach it from above but my daughter has very thin arms and smaller hands and was able to plug it back in after 10 min or so of trying. I had to put lotion on my arm to reach the bottom end which I had to connect without being able to see it. I would say don't even try it unless you can get the exhaust pipes off the manifold. These bolts were rusted too bad to take them out without breaking them I think. All that and it didn't help. Bought the iLAND Diagnostic tool to see I can find my no start problem with that.

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

absolutely getting the manifold off would greatly benefit but I was in the same position as you. The bolts looked rusty and I certainly did not need to break them, that would have created a much bigger problem for DIY mechanic. Good thinking having your daughter help, others have said their wife had to do it. It is unfortunate it didn't solve your issue though, good luck going forward. When you do find out please let me know the result. Thanks again.

@sjepson100 6 жыл бұрын

Now I am seeing the M & S green lights flashing and when in Drive the red indicator gear indicator is flashing. It moves in to the Manual gear positions but there is no indicator showing for any of those gear positions. Any pictures or diagrams of where the top end of that sensor wire connects to the Engine Control Module? Or where ever it goes.

@edsonmiranda7263 5 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem and don't know how to sort it out! HELP!!!!

@mml1224 5 жыл бұрын

great job rob! 'youtube' mechanic..lol...hey i have a 2010 LR2 HSE, new batter and starter, and my immbolizer is triggered. They say i need a EKA 4 digit code, where and how do i find one? i bot the car used. i use the code by turning the door key left and right in sequence, or is there another way to bypass the immbolizer???? please help!!!

@robmarino6787 5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the only way to retrieve codes is ether at a dealer or buy a code reader from a Rover Dealer or Atlantic British. Either way it's pricey, probs around $300 US for the Reader or $200 from the dealer.

@donblack441 5 жыл бұрын

Can you show how to replace the Engine Knock Sensors on '05 LR3 SE 4.4

@robmarino6787 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly Don I'm not sure but my neighbor has an LR3 I'll see if I can locate them. Hang tight.

@robmarino6787 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry no luck, theirs is an 08'. Very confusing engine.

@okskeeter278 Жыл бұрын

We’re the m and a lights flashing as well?

@robmarino6787 Жыл бұрын

no not for this. those lights usually flash when battery life is low or you have a ground issue.

@ptarushasagame8405 4 жыл бұрын

You're going to get yourself smashed dude. I've seen jacks blow out more than once. Its also how my grandpa died. Please invest in some jack stands for the sake of your friends and family.

@robmarino6787 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I do appreciate the concern but I have stated in another comment I did use proper stands and only used the jack for this vid. I really should have said that when I did the video. Cheers.

@rosalio0522 Жыл бұрын

Landrover discovery is too tall to crush someone lol

@anadennis8820 6 жыл бұрын

Diagnosed problem by verifying no spark and no tachometer movement while cranking. Also by connecting diagnostic scanner and getting P0335 code. However unless you have a service pit or extremely long and slender arms, this repair is impossible. Was able to reach sensor body from below, but not able to reach electrical connector to the sensor from top or from below vehicle. Would have to completely remove exhaust system and other parts on left side of engine to access this thing.

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Ana, after I posted the video I thought perhaps I should have stated it would have been much easier to do if I unhooked the exhaust pipe from the manifold but of course that is certainly not an easy task for a simple DIY mechanic. As you can see from the Video I'm not a small guy, not large guy either but I was able to accomplish the entire repair without taking anything extra apart. jumping from below the car, which was jacked up pretty high, to the top of the engine. This also would be much easier with help of a second person of course. Most things are!! :)

@dparham 6 жыл бұрын

ahh since Im here Ill post here too maybe for others who haven't worked on these vehicles much.. IF you have not, then here is a little insight on removing the exhaust... SOAK THE BOLTS to the Y Pipe for a few days if possible every day, they rust in nice and good! one of my bolt heads sheered off when installing new flange gaskets and i had to get out a REALLY SHARP GOOD drill bit and drill it out and chase the threads with my thread reamer... a 45 min job ended up being a few Hrs... i didnt soak mine long and they were worse than they seemed.. anyway that was of course one of the bolts where the Y Pipe meets the exhaust manifold...its strait forward just take time...

@TheAndresinho 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you. For the life of me, I cannot disconnect the sensor plug out of the harness from top or bottom. It is equally hard to reach. Let me understand this correctly, the sensor and harness plugs are kept together with the small nubby tab on the side of the sensor connector, right? That The harness connector fits on top of the sensor connector like a sleeve? So, to disconnect the two, the tab on the sensor connector has to be pushed in, or the connector on the harness side (sleeve) has to be pried/lifted with a screwdriver?

@robmarino6787 4 жыл бұрын

really sorry man, its been so long I cant remember. But there are several sensor plugs within reach at the top of the engine, most likely the same connection.

@mounirblibeche7692 4 жыл бұрын

@@robmarino6787 I finally got it figured out. Very simple, as a matter of fact. Thank you for the response.

@jeffnations3187 5 жыл бұрын

Did you check fuel pressure at the rail?

@robmarino6787 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't

@oaitsegabathuse7547 3 жыл бұрын

Where is the crank shaft sensor located in discovery 3

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

sorry I don't know

@Andrew-jr8np 3 жыл бұрын

take off the tire and make an access panel by cuting a hole. took 5 minutes, way easier!

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

That's some great advice!! Cheers

@zacharyswanson5132 3 жыл бұрын

Any other idea's as to why it won't start? I just replaced it yet it still just clicks over

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

"clicking" is different than not turning over. if its clicking it could be; battery, battery leads, or starter.

@zacharyswanson5132 3 жыл бұрын

I can start the car when key is in the on position. With a screw driver and starts up just fine but when I go to turn it over it just clicks

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

@@zacharyswanson5132 Wow, that's about 2 levels above my pay grade. Perhaps this is an issue with the contacts in the key cylinder? Go on a Land Rover forum page, someone there might know. Good luck.

@davidvannorsdall899 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting

@louisguillen9590 3 ай бұрын

It’s basically impossible to reconnect the clips. I tried for six hours today straight. There’s no way to do it from the top that’s for sure and from the bottom, it seems basically impossible without taking the exhaust off.

@robmarino6787 3 ай бұрын

I was given some great advice the other day. If you take off the tire and go through side panel you can easily reach.

@metromotel 10 ай бұрын

how many hours needed for this job?

@robmarino6787 10 ай бұрын

it took me about 2.5 hours total, but if have a set of long handled needle nosed pliers you could probably get this done in about 45 minutes.

@dparham 6 жыл бұрын

Im not far behind! im about to do this... Mine starts normal but a week ago while driving truck stumbled... then no issues... last night driving home late at night just died instantly... no electrical change in lights or anything or being able to turn engine over... wait about 3-5 mins and it starts up... my onboard OBD II gauge just went into error mode but no codes... same thing happened again this am on way to work lol since I cant get it to set a code or pending code before it dies, I decided to go ahead and order the part even if its not this ( but I suspect it is) . if its not and all of a sudden I did need it Id like to have it handy lol... anyway... i removed the OBD II gauge as i have also heard before of one malfunctioning and causing havoc on engine... when I unplugged ( maybe timing coincidence) disco II started right up... im pretty sure on any other situation like bad ignition or something then Id throw a code but I read on this situation it may die before a code sets in computer...

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

This part can be quite frustrating, not only about where it's located but also the issues it throws at you. It makes you think it could be the fuel pump, the alternator, the battery or the leads, something in the timing...etc. Once you gather all the symptoms; the stalling at low idle, no start but cranking, no start then start up after a few minutes, the unpredictable codes. With mine, check engine light came on but should no codes. Once I fixed, check light turned off. If you have the part you may as well install and see the outcome and go from there.

@dparham 6 жыл бұрын

I finally threw to code while a couple of cranks of engine.. its been dead in the water for 2 days waiting the part lol i ordered it before it failed as I was already pretty sure this was the issue lol Im at 125 miles on my 03 ... when cranking no RPM so no signal was coming from sensor that I could tell and mine actually died mid drive about 10 mins in... 2 times and then it was done... hopefully USPS is on time for tomorrow! lol ive been suspecting this could happen as my gas milage had dropped but no signs anywhere of the issue but one day abut 3 months ago it wouldnt start... then it started... i ran codes and nothing so I dismissed it as a hiccup on a 125k dico.. ( BAHAHAHAHA) anyway it started and I forgot about it til now when it reminded me hashly! lol

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

good luck man,let me know how it goes.

@dparham 6 жыл бұрын

I received the package fast ( 2 days) but thinking it wouldn't be available locally BUT IT WAS! lol anyway, took me about 1.5 hrs ( including running back to parts store for tools) and I didnt drop exhaust... it was pretty simple but my forearms just a little to large to reach that plug up by engine so I went down the street to a local speed shop and picked up (2 ) 11" long needle nose pliers bent with 90deg tip and with one in each hand I was able to hold the loose top connector on the wiring harness and bottom connector with the second set pliers and press them together until they locked... then fired up the truck and has been running great!! on hindsight, i think id reconnect the top wiring harness plug to new sensor before installing the new sensor.. it was more difficult to match up the sensor plug halves to the wiring harness since the plug has a really stiff cable running off of it... anyway worked great and if i had it to do again I could do it in 30 mins now including taking a few sips of coffee lol

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome Dennis, and some good tips in there. Thanks for the update.

@koitorob 4 жыл бұрын

No... BEFORE you get into the installation, ammend your title with which engine this video is about. V8 or TD5. It'll make it easier for people to find the information they need. Thanks

@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg 3 жыл бұрын

We don't have the TD5 in the US, so if it's an American in the video it's definitely a V8.

@daywar13 6 жыл бұрын

We Literally had the same problem at the same time lol

@newholland9904 6 жыл бұрын

Is this the cause off the m+ s and D flashing and lose power

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry but I believe that is an issue with a bad or old battery. Try replacing your battery.

@JUKE179r 6 жыл бұрын

It can be. The flashing M&S happened to me too and it went into limp mode. I installed a new Bosch CPS and all is well now.

@macutan Ай бұрын

So I am having the M+S flashing at the moment and also the p0335 and P0336 codes. May try to replace the battery first before ordering the Crankshaft Position Sensor.

@dario3884 6 жыл бұрын

How many terminals? 3?

@robmarino6787 5 жыл бұрын

what do you mean by terminals? there is only 1 connection plug.

@collinbarrows1932 3 жыл бұрын

Jack stands??

@robmarino6787 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your concern, but this has been covered.

@MrTHEBRITINWA 6 жыл бұрын

Working without Stands and JUST using a floor jack. Scary.....

@robmarino6787 6 жыл бұрын

That was just for the video, of course I used stands. But thank you for your concern, and the safety tip.

@Rpplerarr 4 жыл бұрын

You think there is only one engine option for the Discovery 2? Why dont you tell Your audience what actual kind of car this applies to?

@sketcham9234 4 жыл бұрын

Rpplerarr in the US we only have one engine option... look elsewhere if you have a TD5

@Rpplerarr 4 жыл бұрын

@@sketcham9234Where does it state that Your video only applies to the american audience?

@sketcham9234 4 жыл бұрын

Rpplerarr the guy making the video is doing the repair on a v8 Rover engine. Why are you watching this if you have a TD5?? It’s not is responsibility to make and notate a video for every engine, he’s showing his repair on his truck in the USA. So yes, there’s one engine option in the US and this guy has helped a lot of people out with his video.

@Rpplerarr 4 жыл бұрын

@@sketcham9234 My god you ar dense. I know its a Rover engine(so is the td5 by the way) but this fool dont state anywhere in the title, in the description or in the video that he is talking about the V8 Disco. This guy should have his account closed.

@matthewdevine113 4 жыл бұрын

Rpplerarr bruh