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Larry Wheels

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@TBAG
@TBAG 2 жыл бұрын
imagine if the whole fitness industry would be this honest and transparent. Would mean a lot less misinformation. good on you Larry!
@enoch622
@enoch622 2 жыл бұрын
video game man!!!!!!11!!!!!
@Ryan-wx1bi
@Ryan-wx1bi 2 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me that one guys was lying when he said he gained 40 lbs of muscle in a year all naturally?
@DeezeRx
@DeezeRx 2 жыл бұрын
ayoo its TBAG
@somedude8468
@somedude8468 2 жыл бұрын
TBAG?? the fuck are you doing here?
@chipchelios
@chipchelios 2 жыл бұрын
If the entire fitness industry was this honest, then they wouldn't be able to earn a fortune off of supplements for your average joe.
@2130dar
@2130dar 2 жыл бұрын
A smart man for 27. Glad you’ve decided to do this and get as healthy as possible. You’ve got decades ahead of you.. all the best Larry
@tayokarate
@tayokarate 2 жыл бұрын
He already looks like 30s
@user-xc3vl9in8v
@user-xc3vl9in8v 2 жыл бұрын
Smart man?! Smart men don't roid up at 20 years old.
@gianandreacotoni4771
@gianandreacotoni4771 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xc3vl9in8v he's grown up man
@jon-vegard8386
@jon-vegard8386 2 жыл бұрын
Whaaat, Larry Wheels is younger than me? Jesus
@tayokarate
@tayokarate 2 жыл бұрын
@@jon-vegard8386 🤣🤣🤣 effects of roids
@IminAustralia
@IminAustralia 10 ай бұрын
Spoiler alert: he went back on roids.
@freddw.9578
@freddw.9578 4 ай бұрын
😂
@nacebedace8243
@nacebedace8243 2 ай бұрын
No, he didn't. He's on TRT, which is considered medicine, not a cycle
@MurphyOCP-001
@MurphyOCP-001 2 ай бұрын
@@nacebedace8243175mg a week is not a TRT dose.
@yeabro4038
@yeabro4038 2 ай бұрын
​@@nacebedace8243he relapsed 😅
@user-fr1ys2wn4t
@user-fr1ys2wn4t Ай бұрын
​@@nacebedace8243 abusers like using the word "TRT" when they're on test..
@yabpiigotti1313
@yabpiigotti1313 2 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be a lonnng and extremely tough road. This is incredibly admirable and I’ll pray for gods wisdom and grace and patient for you to endure this journey. I think if you stick with it and pull through you’re gonna be twice as good as your are. Go get it Larry!
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 2 жыл бұрын
Coming off is a long and tough road. He's going on TRT, it's not a long tough road he'll feel just fine, just won't be as big and strong as before.
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasphillips465 Yeah...kinda but not really. TRT is always a step above natty, unless he stays on like 50mg per week with his test levels at like 300-400. TRT is a constant 24/7 drip of testosterone unlike natural testosterone production which comes in pulses. Most guys will aim for 800+ on TRT and that's actually like 2-3x as much actual testosterone in their body as they would have naturally. He says in the video his starting point will be 175mg of test per week, presumably test enanthate or cypionate which are around 70% testosterone so that's a yield of 122.5mg. The normal range for men's total daily testosterone production is 4-7mg so 28-49mg per week. He will lose some strength and more so size but not necessarily all that much. And he'll never feel depressed, lethargic, have trouble sleeping, erectile dysfunction etc all those side effects that come with actually coming off everything after years on gear.
@yellowcactustvz4929
@yellowcactustvz4929 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a chemical addiction lol
@yabpiigotti1313
@yabpiigotti1313 2 жыл бұрын
@@yellowcactustvz4929 But is it though? I can see it being a psychological addiction. Dude won’t be lifting as crazy or heavy as he was. I know when I’ve had to cut back on the gym bc of schooling I’ve lost size and strength and that’s not a good feeling. It messes with you mentally and physically. So sure it’s not chemical but could it be mental?
@yellowcactustvz4929
@yellowcactustvz4929 2 жыл бұрын
@@yabpiigotti1313 Yeah ofcourse I wouldn't have specified chemical otherwise
@Sevem7m
@Sevem7m 2 жыл бұрын
Props to Larry for always being honest and transparent! Rare traits in the fitness world
@kovy689
@kovy689 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr? It’s very unfortunate honest guys like him are so rare.
@trdhro
@trdhro 2 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? Every second schoolboy is using shit nowadays and very proud and “transparent” about it.
@V8ToYy
@V8ToYy 2 жыл бұрын
extremely rare, so refreshing seeing one of these guys actually be honest about it. But that's probably because Larry supports himself through his own company, alot of sponsored athletes cant talk about or they will lose that sponsorship. The companies in fitness like people to think its naturally possible to reach these levels, and of course using there supplements will help...
@promeyboy
@promeyboy 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@charlesperkinsjr2
@charlesperkinsjr2 2 жыл бұрын
Almost every KZfaqr admits to steroids
@Roadglide86
@Roadglide86 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that he admits how much steroids help with size and strength no bullshit , not like other guys on steroids saying it's not much difference I work harder then you. Thank you Larry for your honesty
@mr.b111
@mr.b111 2 жыл бұрын
You can literally get twice as strong, as without.
@Ivantheterrible81280
@Ivantheterrible81280 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.b111 First off look up the definition of “literally” so your statements can be respected. Second, you are wrong to begin with so shut up.
@Ivantheterrible81280
@Ivantheterrible81280 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still about work ethic and discipline. You keyboard warriors don’t have that to begin with.
@Moneymoneymoneymoneymoneymonee
@Moneymoneymoneymoneymoneymonee 2 жыл бұрын
Dude not just that. A HUGE POINT people never seem to mention to the “oh u take roids n work very hard it’s not magic u still have to work very hard” ROIDS MAKE U WORK HARD. ROIDS MAKE WORKING HARD A FCKING BREEZE. it literally makes u wanna work more it’s testosterone being increased the literal male hormone ffs. I thought some1 would alr mention this
@josefharasek7487
@josefharasek7487 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.b111 not really twice but in certain areas like arms and shoulders... yeah its pretty close
@red40hate
@red40hate 2 ай бұрын
Aged like milk…
@lesliechow9238
@lesliechow9238 2 жыл бұрын
Larry has always been open and honest about his problems in life, good on him
@OTOWN2STOCKTOWN
@OTOWN2STOCKTOWN Жыл бұрын
What's the benefit from being , would you say, like for him or anyone of that matter? What is the bonus from being open in this case would you say, like for real?
@Yoshiling
@Yoshiling 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing but love for you. You have integrity, which is probably more rare these days than all your weightlifting PR's. Keep up the awesome work.
@strongestnattyever-videos2247
@strongestnattyever-videos2247 2 жыл бұрын
*LARRY LOST HIS HUNGER 🤦👎 UNSUBSCRIBED*
@strongestnattyever-videos2247
@strongestnattyever-videos2247 2 жыл бұрын
@Athletic Health Bible: “Everything is Gods plan” God Plan: innocent 3 year old kids getting cancer
@antoinjohnson4146
@antoinjohnson4146 2 жыл бұрын
@Athletic Health he does need to bring a bible verse for that lol
@dwest7502
@dwest7502 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't him having integrity mean he would have never done steroids?
@strongestnattyever-videos2247
@strongestnattyever-videos2247 2 жыл бұрын
@@dwest7502 exactly!!
@MikeRashidOfficial
@MikeRashidOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Excited to see what you’re capable of bro.. good for you for doing this
@spidey4588
@spidey4588 2 жыл бұрын
HI. ARE YOU JOSHUA 🙌🏿
@sharkparty1027
@sharkparty1027 2 жыл бұрын
You is all natty…since 20 mins ago. As natty as Pam Anderson's bre@$t!
@stansmith5610
@stansmith5610 2 жыл бұрын
*Now it's your turn Mike.. hop off the juiceee*
@fgcpeak9591
@fgcpeak9591 2 жыл бұрын
You should also hop off the gear buddy
@stansmith5610
@stansmith5610 2 жыл бұрын
You, CBum, JoeySwole, Bradley Martin, Mike Ohearn, Big boy, Greg Doucette, and all these juiced Influencers should stop juicing. it's not healthy and you're I fluencing others to think it's OK to juice when it's not
@Kororia111
@Kororia111 Жыл бұрын
You stopped steroids yeah right !!!
@life4trinity
@life4trinity Жыл бұрын
Huge respect for taking this leap, I'm sure you'll be an inspiration for many future lifters.
@hagestad
@hagestad Жыл бұрын
what leap? he needs drugs anyway. Its just slightly different way to deliver testosterone artificially.
@jluiselizondo4483
@jluiselizondo4483 2 жыл бұрын
This must be so hard. People hold you to a certain standard, you hold yourself to a certain standard. But in the end, what matters is what makes you feel accomplished and happy. Huge inspiration.
@bumetyanuba4231
@bumetyanuba4231 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, what matters is being healthy and alive. If peds has no side effects, we would all be doing it..
@mkovis8587
@mkovis8587 2 жыл бұрын
He just upped the standards, didn't he
@bigwig2659
@bigwig2659 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumetyanuba4231 life has side effects, we all doin it...
@bigwig2659
@bigwig2659 2 жыл бұрын
@@mkovis8587 lol, he laughing at your comment right now
@rfn
@rfn 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumetyanuba4231 its a good call from larry. Focusing on life and health for a while, giving his body a rest from all the peds. He is still young and can always go forward again if he wants to. Will be interesting to see him lifting on TRT and see how he does
@andreolivaresbeats
@andreolivaresbeats 2 жыл бұрын
Good on you Larry. There's a lot of maturity coming through here!
@aktiefinans1.
@aktiefinans1. 2 жыл бұрын
The balls gotten more immature though!
@shack7631
@shack7631 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bit late for maturity now. Temperament shutdown at 27 years old is serious damage to do to your body.
@bike4aday
@bike4aday 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of stuff we've always wanted to hear from the best lifters. Thanks for sharing Larry, hope you succeed at your goals!
@OriZilbershtein
@OriZilbershtein Жыл бұрын
Seeing that you choose sustainability and looking long term health and strength, while providing transparent context. All the power to you. More fitness channels should be this upfront.
@Dadusak
@Dadusak 2 жыл бұрын
Huge respect Larry! You'll now become the strongest human on TRT in history
@justinmacarrhur1924
@justinmacarrhur1924 2 жыл бұрын
Lol . No. But lol
@bruhmcchaddeus413
@bruhmcchaddeus413 2 жыл бұрын
“Trt”
@stephensarms
@stephensarms 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from Vitor Belford
@patrickbateman4541
@patrickbateman4541 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ek9zd6mq8x testosterone replacement therapy
@MG-sg2ci
@MG-sg2ci 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ek9zd6mq8x 500mgs a week.
@mortenrl1946
@mortenrl1946 2 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be rough, but I respect it. Too many people never think about the long term until it's too late.
@kovy689
@kovy689 2 жыл бұрын
And to think he’s already ruined his natural ability to produce testosterone, imagine what will happen if he kept using.
@sheldonjplanktonn
@sheldonjplanktonn 2 жыл бұрын
Like Mountain dog :(
@charlesperkinsjr2
@charlesperkinsjr2 2 жыл бұрын
And Larry is one of them
@bb7366
@bb7366 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheldonjplanktonn like a bunch of them…
@NNotNormal
@NNotNormal 2 жыл бұрын
better to die with an explosive ending, being recognized and admired than to live a long sad and peaceful life, without anyone admiring you for what you have done.
@ightimmaheadout290
@ightimmaheadout290 Жыл бұрын
If only Mike O Tren was this honest
@devonperry8425
@devonperry8425 Жыл бұрын
Respect! I wish many more people would admit to being on PED’s. I’m glad your deciding to come down on the dosage. Many bodybuilders seem to die from heart disease or hurting themselves pretty bad. Take care of yourself!
@LoLSlowMotions
@LoLSlowMotions 2 жыл бұрын
I love your honesty, Larry. You're always so truthful and open. I wish you the best of luck in everything you do. You deserve nothing but happiness and success.
@luckygirl1561
@luckygirl1561 2 жыл бұрын
lolu bıraktım vucutçu oldum aga seni burda gördüm zargana halim aklıma geldi
@egeozsen8476
@egeozsen8476 2 жыл бұрын
Larry ile yasuo vssi gelir mi
@Lexphia
@Lexphia 2 жыл бұрын
lol oynasam da oynamasam da karşıma çıkıyorsun.
@Cpradiostation44
@Cpradiostation44 2 жыл бұрын
Larry always being transparent and honest with any of his addictions or PED usage. Massive respect
@Omni-King2099
@Omni-King2099 2 жыл бұрын
No he wasn't. You must be new to the channel. Welcome. But years after it was apparent then he made a very vague video about his use. ,🥴
@oleksandr8371
@oleksandr8371 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's not true. More plates more dates made it cool to talk about steroid use. Now all these fitness gurus pull victim cards talking about their "journey" for more views. Sell-outs.
@Tdwl713
@Tdwl713 2 жыл бұрын
Not really but he’s been a lot better
@surbjitsingh3261
@surbjitsingh3261 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tdwl713 its going to be really apparent when he loses 100lbs plus on his bench, shoulder press etc... guys he was blsting shit like anadrol to the point he was bleeding in the gym. we are talking HIGH DOSES!
@isaaccarter5514
@isaaccarter5514 2 жыл бұрын
@@Omni-King2099 biggest hater
@SicraN
@SicraN Жыл бұрын
Great for you Larry! I hope your results without PEDs will be greater than expected. Thank you for the information you gave us. Every word you say about this subject is really important for anyone interested in bodybuilding.
@emmang2010
@emmang2010 Жыл бұрын
Wow, way to monetize the video and provide a link to the clinic as LITERALLY the very first link. There's a difference between education and being informed/making informed decisions, and marketing ease of access. Main fitness influencers need to chill sometimes.
@NoahPolyak01
@NoahPolyak01 2 жыл бұрын
This is a big change and for someone who’s been on peds as long as you it might be a difficult change but if anyone has the strength to follow through it’s you Larry 💪❤️
@kovy689
@kovy689 2 жыл бұрын
And to think he’s already ruined his natural ability to produce test, imagine what will happen if he kept using.
@lucasm8528
@lucasm8528 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is most men would benefit from starting TRT in their early 30’s anyway
@hammeraffe
@hammeraffe 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasm8528 why ?
@willsmith82
@willsmith82 2 жыл бұрын
@@hammeraffe More testosterone
@HkFinn83
@HkFinn83 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasm8528 hormone replacement therapy has a number or positive and negative associations in men who medically require it. It’s a very poor decision for a healthy man in his 30’s.
@dripshameless5605
@dripshameless5605 2 жыл бұрын
This dude, as big as he is in terms of fame, and is humble enough to come out here and be like hey, Greg spoke sense, I'mma take his advice. Class for days, well done Larry. Wish you the best!
@jim-mh6bk
@jim-mh6bk 2 жыл бұрын
I did steroids at age 22 for a whole year (23 now) I did 3 cycles of test and coming off I lost 40lbs of weight instantly and now I’m having panic attacks and my heart beats out of my chest anytime I try to workout so it’s very hard to lift any weight at all, I actually quit for months, your body will never be normal if you start this journey, your heart will never be normal please stay natural kids, no sarms, no steroids, don’t use any of it. You’ll regret it, yeah I hit amazing numbers and stuff but I’d take it all back if I could
@ogg7490
@ogg7490 2 жыл бұрын
This transparency is why Larry is still respected in the fitness industry
@patiom69
@patiom69 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most respect worthy people in the fitness industry. Congrats Larry, longevity is a goal as well
@bengodoy7914
@bengodoy7914 2 жыл бұрын
Haha you actually believe him???? Please, have him show his blood work results to prove it.
@MikeHoncho610
@MikeHoncho610 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengodoy7914 right? Lol. Plus the damage to his organs is already done.
@bengodoy7914
@bengodoy7914 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeHoncho610 his level of narcissism, is at an all time high. He's running out of content, and people are turning away from him. So, why not come out of left field with this confession to stay relevant?? haha please
@bleeesion8368
@bleeesion8368 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengodoy7914 I dont think anyone is turning away from him. If anything he's bringing in people for being this honest, as well as being helpful in the fitness community.
@sbdftw1702
@sbdftw1702 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengodoy7914 Lol, get off your high horse. Don’t be so insecure about yourself that your literally begging Larry to reveal proof that he’s jumping ship. His strength and bodyweight will provide proof within itself after a few weeks.
@Rs2Hackzltd
@Rs2Hackzltd 2 жыл бұрын
Larry this is why we love you, you've been honest since the beginning and you know when to give yourself a break. No need to rush yourself into an injury and god forbid end up like Ronnie, definitely an intelligent decision on your part - as usual sir!
@homevlone629
@homevlone629 2 жыл бұрын
Jup just Lied for years on end but love em that’s how they can afford their next cycle
@Rs2Hackzltd
@Rs2Hackzltd 2 жыл бұрын
@@homevlone629 Larry was honest from the beginning, hater
@aemalsaid3558
@aemalsaid3558 2 жыл бұрын
whos we speak for urself
@strongestnattyever-videos2247
@strongestnattyever-videos2247 2 жыл бұрын
*he will literally still be injecting testosterone *
@johnluke3328
@johnluke3328 2 жыл бұрын
TRT IS A TYPE OF STEROIDS. anabonic steroids and TRT are both androgen steroids but TRT has been highly legalized thru the medical and pharmaceutical companies though both TRT and anabonic steriods are androgen steroids that give quick muscle mass and have similar side effects. Both are used by athletes to cheat thru compeitition. There are different types of steroids, hundreds of different types but TRT is simply an anabonic steroid that has been legalized by the medical community in order to sell and prescribe steroids without getting into legal trouble. The medical and pharmaceutical community claims that TRT has less testosterone hormones than regular anabonic steroids. In their terms TRT is there special safe developed anabonic steroids that can be used with a prescription from a doctor. Currently TRT is being used by transgender females trying to be transgender men.
@VenVile
@VenVile Жыл бұрын
Thank you Larry! Thanks so much! THIS is what the fitness industry needs; transparency, honesty and integrity! Absolutely beautiful and inspiring. The level of open honesty actually gave me chills. WOW!
@cakeeater2368
@cakeeater2368 2 жыл бұрын
This is the same guy who said he tried steroids in his younger lifting days, but quickly realized they weren't for him and stopped. Now he's saying he's been using them for a decade????? Where do the lies begin and end? Everyone in the comments talking about this guys integrity and transparency are gullible fools. HE'S BEEN LYING TO YOU!!!!!! And worse, the lie is obvious, just from looking at him. You can't get to that point without steroids.
@MarioGonzalez-ni5hm
@MarioGonzalez-ni5hm 2 жыл бұрын
First and foremost thank you Larry for everything, for your transparency and your honesty. You are a pioneer of this coming out and showing that it's okay to talk about PED use and it's effects and how you should avoid them and if you do them do it properly and with high level healthcare physician overseeing it! Health is wealth my brotha 💪🏼 May God Bless You on your new journey 🙏🏼
@DefferJohn
@DefferJohn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for thanking Larry! I really appreciate it. 🙏🏼
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 2 жыл бұрын
@@DefferJohn Thank you for thanking Mario for thanking Larry! I really appreciate it. 🙏🏻
@charlesperkinsjr2
@charlesperkinsjr2 2 жыл бұрын
Pioneer? Did you forget about Piana or Boston Loyd?
@valyomg3251
@valyomg3251 2 жыл бұрын
@@caprisunboy1246 Thank you for thanking Mean Bean Comedy for thanking Deffer John for thanking Mario for thanking Larry! I really appreciate it. 🙏🏻
@alessandro3306
@alessandro3306 2 жыл бұрын
@@valyomg3251 Thank you for thanking capri sun boy for thanking Mean Bean Comedy for thanking Deffer John for thanking Mario for thanking Larry! I really appreciate it. 🙏🏻
@chadca201
@chadca201 2 жыл бұрын
The honesty is what I love most about this dude. I wish that every fitness and powerlifter in this industry was as honest, it would be a much more informative and transparent sport. Thank you for being a open book man, it makes it so much more entertaining to watch your videos👏👏👏
@iosifspantidakis2362
@iosifspantidakis2362 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your sincerity and your integral character. You have a great character. A gem. I wish you the best!
@jfros9794
@jfros9794 2 жыл бұрын
HE WAITS TIL HES REACHED HIS PEAK AND THEN RAKES ALL THE MONEY FAME ETC AND NOW WANTS TO BE HONEST LOL
@chadca201
@chadca201 2 жыл бұрын
@@jfros9794 he's always been honest about his steroid.
@casanjt8515
@casanjt8515 2 жыл бұрын
@@jfros9794 my sentiments exactly 😂😂😂
@dutchcowboi
@dutchcowboi Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on the differences in your mental state, sleep, energy, libido, skin, hair etc etc on cycle vs trt vs natural?
@nicholasperry7025
@nicholasperry7025 2 жыл бұрын
Man it was never about the PRs, it was never about how strong you were or who you did your videos with, for me it was about your journey, the lessons you taught me, it was about BTCs journey, the casting couch lol, it was about the meets, the goals you wanted to meet and failed, and showed it’s possible to do better next time. To not give up, your videos and life is a lesson. You being so open helps the youngsters coming in to this Seen see the truths about fitness. Larry your one of the best fitness channels on KZfaq, and probably will for every be the craziest power lifter strong man, exo human out there. Idgaf what anyones says, 👍🏻
@eafanboyssuck
@eafanboyssuck 2 жыл бұрын
This may well be the end of PR Larry, but it was an incredible journey. He broke a PR every month. But I’m happy to hear that he is taking his health more seriously.
@TheKruxed
@TheKruxed 2 жыл бұрын
They will all be 'natural' PR's so really, hes going to be hitting lots lol, next level thinking by Larry
@joeycoming1926
@joeycoming1926 2 жыл бұрын
Under-appreciated comment. As much as I loved seeing Larry banging out the most ridiculous weight I've ever seen in my life, now that I'm older I can be grateful for this hard decision.
@jbmw16
@jbmw16 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean, he's gonna hop on again after he stays regular T for a while. May even help him since he will become more strict with this training, "natty" is much more difficult in terms of schedule and diets so once he hops on again he will have learned some things that may help him get the 1000
@Oldtimenattylife
@Oldtimenattylife 2 жыл бұрын
Lol there’s people out here like myself and the bugz who break pr’s weekly even daily!
@keengkai8175
@keengkai8175 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oldtimenattylife buddy... bugz is a wwe wrestler... there is juice involved
@aarons3014
@aarons3014 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, man, I'm just glad you're looking out for yourself. Too many people have already died this year. Best wishes going forward.
@taoist32
@taoist32 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was in his mid 30’s. Only 27 and cannot produce T naturally anymore. I’m glad he took a step back to reflect on his future.
@eaglesword
@eaglesword 2 жыл бұрын
@@taoist32 Why can't he produce it?
@saltysledge
@saltysledge 2 жыл бұрын
@@eaglesword because when u put things like testosterone into ur body it makes ur body think it doesnt need to produce testosterone anymore and then eventually u just lose the ability to produce testosterone (I paraphrased a lot)
@isamm_1336
@isamm_1336 2 жыл бұрын
@@eaglesword your body can only take so many blasts before that's permanent
@KozhiNize
@KozhiNize 2 жыл бұрын
@@eaglesword because he’s been on steroids for a decade.
@r.westerling4280
@r.westerling4280 Жыл бұрын
PD's make a tremendous difference: 5:10 6:37
@scorpiorican09
@scorpiorican09 2 жыл бұрын
As a natural bodybuilder… I tip my hat. This transparency is next gen. Kudos my brotha! and good luck 🤜🏽💥🤛🏽
@gregseate2369
@gregseate2369 2 жыл бұрын
Larry is a real one! Very authentic and honest! This is strength on a whole new level, choosing not to use a ton of stuff and assistance is a feat of strength!!
@mdoublehb6484
@mdoublehb6484 2 жыл бұрын
*TESTOSTERONE IS A STEROID* *THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO IS FALSE* *THE CHANNEL IS OBVIOUSLY COMPLETE NONSENSE*
@TheSophisticatedSavage
@TheSophisticatedSavage 2 жыл бұрын
No it's not. Don't congratulate someone for doing nothing. He didn't quit crack
@UberBossPure
@UberBossPure 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSophisticatedSavage bra using steorids is like drugs, you get a flash of happiness when working out, much same effect like crack, so basically he quit crack
@perkosherrigh7243
@perkosherrigh7243 2 жыл бұрын
Your delusional if you think he’s stopping 😂
@mikopaq
@mikopaq 2 жыл бұрын
He's still using, it's a sign of a weak mind.
@JinnDante
@JinnDante 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this man is so transparent and is keeping it a 100% makes us respect you even more. Be healthy Larry first and foremost. We do not want another Rich Piana case or Zyzz. Live your life lift heavy shit and enjoy the little things that we get in life now and then. Greetings from Greece.
@jeanjeudi1111
@jeanjeudi1111 Жыл бұрын
Stopping steroids is better than continuing but certainly doesn't mean you're out of the woods. My ultra athletic bike racer friend since a teenager, a friend who I trekked the Huayhuash with in Peru died of a heart attack just like that. Young. It's a shame for many guys. He also faced TRT issues. Don't let your friends get on steroids.
@Borri_Vids
@Borri_Vids 2 жыл бұрын
Larry I’m so glad that you are always literally evolving and watching your mind transform your way of thinking by slowing things down and understanding you got plenty of time left for all the goals you want to reach !! 🙌
@erikfreeman672
@erikfreeman672 2 жыл бұрын
I really admire honesty from any bodybuilders. So often we are mislead by their gains. Larry you just became a true role model!!!!!!
@rottinsoldier9215
@rottinsoldier9215 2 жыл бұрын
Weird you didn’t know he was on roids!? Bro you cannot get that big with PEDs, it’s just science
@slashery_3273
@slashery_3273 2 жыл бұрын
@@rottinsoldier9215 not whether the fact he was on roids or not, just how honest he was with everything the whole process the trt, it's a breath of fresh air compared to all the fake natty's and misinfo in the industry
@thepresence2095
@thepresence2095 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you looking for honesty when a body on roids is so easy to spot
@bryanmoreno8166
@bryanmoreno8166 2 жыл бұрын
@@thepresence2095 that is a ridiculous question. Everybody looks different, on or off roids so you really can’t tell sometimes. Honesty is important to set realistic standards, especially to those new to the fitness industry
@adamj3977
@adamj3977 2 жыл бұрын
@@thepresence2095 Because honesty reveals if someone has a good personality or not. That’s what the original commenter was complementing Larry for.
@Scorpion54092
@Scorpion54092 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats homie give the body a break.
@dqreps
@dqreps 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know if anyone actually needs to be congratulated for this but yes, good
@joec3377
@joec3377 2 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more. Larry we need you to be here for the long run!
@CodeF416
@CodeF416 2 жыл бұрын
@@dqreps Yes he needs to be congratulated because he made a very wise decision. Not everyone blasting gear does that.
@tbrowniscool
@tbrowniscool 2 жыл бұрын
@@dqreps Well I think it's a good move in the right direction, addiction is real for even PEDS. The interesting thing will be how he feels in 6 months, when he is losing strength and willpower.
@___whateverr
@___whateverr 2 жыл бұрын
@@dqreps it's a pain in the ass when you are his size , lots of discomfort when sleeping , eating also the side effects of anabolics , usually bodybuilders can't wait to size down after years of competing so it's actually needs to be congratulated
@bobhope626
@bobhope626 3 ай бұрын
He still calls it a "fitness journey" but the journey ends with his being literally "unable to produce testosterone" in his own words, de-manned. That's the opposite of Fitness
@chesterhdclarke-weightsbox9860
@chesterhdclarke-weightsbox9860 2 жыл бұрын
Is Larry also taking HGH, HCG & clomid/serms with the TRT?
@kevinsamuelsghost685
@kevinsamuelsghost685 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how many bodybuilders are dropping out like flies this was a good decision Larry all the best
@DennisBremermann
@DennisBremermann 2 жыл бұрын
Its the vaccine
@FloutchBW
@FloutchBW 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if at his point, the damage can be undone, he abused then for over a decade now.
@kevinsamuelsghost685
@kevinsamuelsghost685 2 жыл бұрын
@@FloutchBW true but only time will tell
@bharatmatakapati7071
@bharatmatakapati7071 2 жыл бұрын
@@FloutchBW it can absolutely be undone! Larry is only 27 and has been on gear for 9 years only, if Jay Cutler made it out healthy, Larry will too.
@Anon.G
@Anon.G 2 жыл бұрын
Bodybuilders don't drop from roids, they drop from diuretics
@THEleatherface24
@THEleatherface24 2 жыл бұрын
Man you're still so young! I applaud you for taking this road and handling all this as responsible as you are. Good on you man. Your health and life is more important than lifting a 1000lbs
@ingencorporation5098
@ingencorporation5098 Жыл бұрын
« I stopped steroids... now that I reach my goal »
@jdndjsj3091
@jdndjsj3091 2 ай бұрын
Yhis didnt age well
@03blaird
@03blaird 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honesty. Too many guys on KZfaq like to pretend that roids don't give you a huge boost. Here Larry is clear it made a SIGNIFICANT difference for him. Good for him doing whats best for his health now.
@txufx9267
@txufx9267 2 жыл бұрын
It depends what and how much ure taking.
@oofmcgoof6386
@oofmcgoof6386 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, studies show that on cycles you build twice as much muscle just on a cycle (WITHOUT WORKING OUT) than naturally training and working out. Those who cycle and take PEDs almost quadruple muscle growth
@oooooba8343
@oooooba8343 2 жыл бұрын
@@oofmcgoof6386 thats not what that study says, its more "lean mass" steroid users gained without working out which just means fat free mass. So the weight gained in this group was likely a combination of water, glycogen, and probably SOME small amount of muscle mass, but not even close to the amount you could get if you even just worked out naturally. Also the study was done on beginners who most likely dont even train hard at all, take a natty who trains hard and a gear user who doesnt train whstsoever and the natty will obviously grow more.
@txufx9267
@txufx9267 2 жыл бұрын
@@oofmcgoof6386 yeah studies. But they are not physically proven. Ive taken peds before and if u dont workout u will still lose muscle stupid.
@WAhuskies
@WAhuskies 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you Larry, you gain more and more of the peoples love each day… keep it going bruh.
@MrVictoria69
@MrVictoria69 8 ай бұрын
No you didn't
@jkantner152
@jkantner152 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like videos often, this shits top notch bruv. Integrity is rare and greatly appreciated
@Marwan-fz8nx
@Marwan-fz8nx 2 жыл бұрын
First about his addiction and now about using steroids. This man is an example for young athletes.
@Aspis_1-0
@Aspis_1-0 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, for a long time I thought Larry was at least in his 30's. Taking test at such a young age really does make you an adult quicker. You aged great thus far for the amount of stress you've put your body through - it's a real testament to what great lengths the human body can go when pushed. Good for you on going your own route and letting so many through the internet tag along on the journey.
@OTOWN2STOCKTOWN
@OTOWN2STOCKTOWN Жыл бұрын
Dude looks around 45
@lostplug
@lostplug 10 ай бұрын
@@OTOWN2STOCKTOWN💀💀😭
@samuelstevens1129
@samuelstevens1129 9 ай бұрын
​@@OTOWN2STOCKTOWNikr and his nuts are shriveled up 💀
@thegreatgatsby2738
@thegreatgatsby2738 Жыл бұрын
larry the only lifter person i respect bro, and the fact dudes natural now, even more respect.
@richardoliver7363
@richardoliver7363 Жыл бұрын
One of the most hush hush subject matter is synthol. Synthol is used on the highest level of bodybuilding and it's also being used by misguided individuals. All and all it needs to be addressed not for gain but to shed light on a substance that is destroying lives and taking them as well. The oil will leave the intended muscle area and works it's way to the heart, liver, kidneys, nervous system, lungs and brain. And once there you can't get it out, it will begin to shut the body down.
@billnaab7644
@billnaab7644 2 жыл бұрын
I love the timing and thoughtfulness of this decision for you, we’re still very young, and maximizing future potential doesn’t have to mean committing to a shortened lifetime. Rest up and get to work, big guy.
@XARIER39
@XARIER39 2 жыл бұрын
This will be one of the coolest things I've seen I'm so pumped for you man! I know there will be a period of feeling really down but man, that is part of testing your true strength too. Much love and respect to you and your team.
@jakemoore7912
@jakemoore7912 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really looking forward to the content that comes out the next year. I’ve never done PEDs and it’ll be cool to see the difference
@sonicboove4865
@sonicboove4865 4 ай бұрын
Respect for being honest, unlike most.
@Hamigal
@Hamigal 2 жыл бұрын
Dying young is not worth being strong.
@harvey_weenstain8857
@harvey_weenstain8857 2 жыл бұрын
You're a true stand-up guy Larry. God bless
@hobosnacho
@hobosnacho 2 жыл бұрын
This right here is why you are loved among your viewers and the fitness community. You are completely honest and are super down to earth. People really respect your honesty. Huge props to you man for wanting to make the change. It is going to be tough, but your body will thank you for it. You express a positive influence in this world, and people appreciate it.
@ib9194
@ib9194 2 жыл бұрын
When he said he’s 27 I forgot everything else lol
@vastworldknowledge
@vastworldknowledge Жыл бұрын
Bro is 27??! I thought he was like 37. Sheeeeshh
@vnmueser
@vnmueser 2 жыл бұрын
I love the honesty! Much appreciated with how the fitness industry is, well done.
@yyyyyyttt7483
@yyyyyyttt7483 2 жыл бұрын
@@SebastienKZfaq he actually was honest for a long long time from the start
@ghil263
@ghil263 2 жыл бұрын
These guys try to make themselves feel better by saying they're not juicing anymore when they are, just lower doses and then they call it TRT. TRT is still unnatural and high levels. The truth is, you pay for all the gains, be it liver damage and other psychological issues. Stay natural unless you are mentally weak and need to prove something to yourself. Getting big on juice is ghae
@deon3133
@deon3133 2 жыл бұрын
@@yyyyyyttt7483 lmao he said he was clean. But most knew he wasn’t
@yyyyyyttt7483
@yyyyyyttt7483 2 жыл бұрын
@@deon3133 no he didn’t
@deon3133
@deon3133 2 жыл бұрын
@@yyyyyyttt7483 lmao yes he did 😂😂😂 everyone knew he was on roids.
@ShepherdschapelYTexplainsbible
@ShepherdschapelYTexplainsbible 2 жыл бұрын
Larry by your example you'll be saving so many people's lives especially young impressionable youth. I really respect your decision and God bless your journey out of steroid use. Stay natural and stay alive.
@DisturbedHunterG
@DisturbedHunterG 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, his example inspired so much more people to take stuff than he ever will be able to save with changing his mind now...
@ShepherdschapelYTexplainsbible
@ShepherdschapelYTexplainsbible 2 жыл бұрын
@@DisturbedHunterG that's a funny thing about God you can go to the bottom of the barrel and turn around and He can wipe the slate clean if you're serious. Shepherdschapelcom Theseasonorg explains the whole Bible God bless 1. KNOW that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 2. UNDERSTAND the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 3. CONFESS that Jesus Christ is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. Romans 10:9 4. REPENT of your sins Luke 13:3 5. READ and STUDY God's Word to show yourself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15 6. PUT ON the whole armor of God. Ephesians 6:11 7. BEWARE of the son of perdition who is coming first disguised as Jesus to oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or worshipped. 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4 8. WATCH and PRAY until the true Christ returns. Luke 12:37 Remain as a chaste virgin waiting for her true husband (Christ). 2 Corinthians 11:2
@alexyzlorenzo2488
@alexyzlorenzo2488 2 жыл бұрын
he's not gonna be natural anymore b'cuz once you use PDs it will be in your system forever.
@stubones
@stubones 2 жыл бұрын
It’s important counteract the young under educated “influencers who spread 💩 on Instagram etc
@TheButcherOfBasoc
@TheButcherOfBasoc 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShepherdschapelYTexplainsbible God will forgive you not other people. He cant wipe the slate clean in the minds of real people
@bradbiggar6285
@bradbiggar6285 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Larry. I left it a bit late, I had heart-attack 5 months ago and then a quadruple bypass. was on PD for 10 years and deep down, know this contributed. Good on you mate.
@TeacherToolkitDemo
@TeacherToolkitDemo Жыл бұрын
Hope youre ok. 10 years constant? The gear hasn't necessarily caused a heart issue. People have heart issues at a huge rate in the general population anyway. Hope you recover well.
@r.westerling4280
@r.westerling4280 Жыл бұрын
At what dose were you juicing? I was wondering if 250 mg testosteron cypionate/week cruise (125 mg/week on non training weeks) and 500 mg/week blasts (15 grams of gear/year) were relatively safe.
@n00bearthwalker15
@n00bearthwalker15 Жыл бұрын
Thanos: Daughters, I stopped steroids. Gamora and Nebula: How, father? Thanos: I stopped them by taking them.
@reytejero4732
@reytejero4732 2 жыл бұрын
REAL TALK BRO... . IM JUST AS EXCITED AS YOU TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO OFF THE PEDS! LETS SEE IT BIG DOG! ILL BE KEEPING AN 👀 ON YOUR NEW JOURNEY TO THE "UN ENHANCED PR" LARRY VERSION! BE SAFE AND KEEP PUSHING LARRY! STAY BLESSED
@momeski4525
@momeski4525 2 жыл бұрын
Why you yelling tho?
@stickbug397
@stickbug397 2 жыл бұрын
@@momeski4525 its excitement
@darrentimms8865
@darrentimms8865 2 жыл бұрын
He is not off them... He will be still having elevated T
@thelastheraldofmarvelcomic1981
@thelastheraldofmarvelcomic1981 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrentimms8865 he can't produce Testosterone. So he has no choice but to take TRT. Pay attention.
@EK-bn7jz
@EK-bn7jz 2 жыл бұрын
@@momeski4525 greg doucette on an alt account lmao
@l2etranger
@l2etranger 2 жыл бұрын
Can you share with us what the doctors said about heart condition and cardiac activities, and blood pressure consistency during both training and resting, especially when off those supplements? Thank you for this upfront open talk.
@SpursFanBos
@SpursFanBos Жыл бұрын
When do you think Tristyn Lee will come out with his PED/gear use? My respect for these body builders infinitely increase when they come out and tell the truth instead of trying to hide the truth about their PED use.
@imjusthchattinghshitnowloveyou
@imjusthchattinghshitnowloveyou Жыл бұрын
Maybe after 80 years but ohhh wait ✋he'll be dead hmmm
@digitalhistorian7786
@digitalhistorian7786 Жыл бұрын
hes natural
@funkykong7769
@funkykong7769 Жыл бұрын
@@digitalhistorian7786 you can't look like that naturally!
@joaovccm
@joaovccm Жыл бұрын
@@funkykong7769 ye
@inferno_dragon6854
@inferno_dragon6854 Жыл бұрын
@@funkykong7769 depends
@unassailable6138
@unassailable6138 2 жыл бұрын
You just saved your life bro, in our mid 40s our bodies claim what we did in our 20s and 30s with a vengeance
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 2 жыл бұрын
So true.
@intothevoid3605
@intothevoid3605 2 жыл бұрын
My father always said the exact same thing. It’s what motivates me on days where I feel like slacking off. I’m sure future me will be thankful.
@helioshyperion8077
@helioshyperion8077 2 жыл бұрын
idk about u, i am 31 and at my best physique and power.
@dctrxdoom
@dctrxdoom 2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@alex392vlogs2
@alex392vlogs2 2 жыл бұрын
@@helioshyperion8077 I’m 21 I’m at a good lean physique trying to hit 200-205lb but I know in body building our bodies peak at our early 30s. Before 30 it’s just the process but we peak in our 30s
@HealingWord_Psalm107-20
@HealingWord_Psalm107-20 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how more athletes are opening up about just how much assistance PEDs give. There was a time when enhanced lifters would cite their hard work when questioned about PED use. I’m glad more are acknowledging just how much their hard work was enabled by drug use.
@xXAlmdudlerXx
@xXAlmdudlerXx 2 жыл бұрын
Probably depends on dosages. You can have two people looking identical but one works super hard on low dosage while the other blasts and doesnt work hard
@countryboy8643
@countryboy8643 2 жыл бұрын
Lol more athletes?? lol the only one who is being honest is Larry...lol oh and Pittbull
@TheSophisticatedSavage
@TheSophisticatedSavage 2 жыл бұрын
@@xXAlmdudlerXx No it doesn't.
@xXAlmdudlerXx
@xXAlmdudlerXx 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSophisticatedSavage Are you trying to say a 250mg test cycle is the same as blasting 700 of tren and 2000mg of test? :D
@mikek860
@mikek860 Жыл бұрын
I’m very late to the party here but I have so much respect for you for being so transparent and for taking care of yourself. You seem like a genuinely great dude. I’m sure you’ll continue to crush life!
@InZamasuWeTrust
@InZamasuWeTrust Жыл бұрын
TRT Vitor has entered the chat.
@ayeejiff9847
@ayeejiff9847 2 жыл бұрын
Aye bro I’m more happy for you than I’ve ever been. Being honest, open and true. That’s what matters.
@joeeacott9707
@joeeacott9707 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming from a humble place when presenting this information and telling your story. It would be so incredible if everyone else on PEDs could do this
@damonstrike8612
@damonstrike8612 2 жыл бұрын
Honest man right here
@dontdo9815
@dontdo9815 Жыл бұрын
Larry is the same as your biggest fitness influencer, except he’s more honest and open, so there’s no reason to treat either one with more hate
@kingbrownie207
@kingbrownie207 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see it. Excited to see the journey. Also huge respect for the transparency. Your a role model for basically all lifters and this transparency is super important
@TheHaiku2
@TheHaiku2 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Larry. Your health is the most important thing.
@mdoublehb6484
@mdoublehb6484 2 жыл бұрын
*TESTOSTERONE IS A STEROID.* *THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO IS FALSE.* *WHY DOES THIS CHANNEL STILL EXIST?* *IT IS ALL MEANINGLESS.*
@MikeRuben
@MikeRuben Жыл бұрын
As a “fat” strength straining guy I’m happy with nothing but food and water, looking average, and confusing the heck out of ppl when I flip 600lb tires
@mao1262
@mao1262 Жыл бұрын
Bro didn’t stop doing steroid.He stopped steroids.
@NEUTRALDROP
@NEUTRALDROP 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is awesome as a natural teenage bodybuilder I was lifting some pretty heavy weights and for you to say when you will clean you did 405 I wasn't far from that and I just love to see you do it and it's obviously the healthy route
@WojciechP915
@WojciechP915 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT'S IT GOT STUNTMAN???
@Hydra-cy3yg
@Hydra-cy3yg 2 жыл бұрын
This needs commas and periods HOLY
@laudablefm
@laudablefm 2 жыл бұрын
Way to make it about yourself
@yogeshcyr31
@yogeshcyr31 2 жыл бұрын
More like 300 lbs for a guy who never took steroids or creatine or other shit but pure food is the limit in general.
@SuperTrooperC
@SuperTrooperC 2 жыл бұрын
@@yogeshcyr31 bro 300lbs is in no way the limit while being natural. Cope harder.
@Noneofyourbusiness-rq9jq
@Noneofyourbusiness-rq9jq 2 жыл бұрын
imagine being 27 and no longer being able to produce testosterone. pathetic state to be in
@jovanpavlovic8030
@jovanpavlovic8030 2 жыл бұрын
Samo jako Larry,svrati opet na rakiju nekad!🇷🇸
@supersquat
@supersquat Жыл бұрын
Oh wow what a breath of fresh air to see such a big fitness youtuber talk so openly about his ped use. Lots of respect for you Larry!
@jewishmario6583
@jewishmario6583 2 жыл бұрын
This is great for u and ur health man wish u nothing but the best 👍
@donnasmith9942
@donnasmith9942 2 жыл бұрын
This is dumb. I am blasting roids and I healtheir then ever. This is a beta move by larry. Huge disappointment.
@jewishmario6583
@jewishmario6583 2 жыл бұрын
@@donnasmith9942 r u making a joke or 💀
@donnasmith9942
@donnasmith9942 2 жыл бұрын
@@jewishmario6583 I'm a cop......
@jewishmario6583
@jewishmario6583 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lekwis ong
@donnasmith9942
@donnasmith9942 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lekwis I am making a point that even though I am a cop that I wouldnt even bust Larry for taking steroids, so i am not sure why this clown is getting off steroids, very stupid. Steroids will only help you get stronger and this fool wants to stop and be an average doofus. No way will I stop and lose all these gains I worked so hard for.
@JordanSouthpawLandry
@JordanSouthpawLandry 2 жыл бұрын
6:40 Incredibly wise. Awesome transparency from Larry. Regardless of steroids or not you gotta respect this guy for everything he's done.
@hnsinc2257
@hnsinc2257 2 жыл бұрын
Where should we aim the camera? Larry: SCHLONG 🍆
@ziwuri
@ziwuri Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a really healthy attitude towards PEDs, especially for a guy whose whole career and identity is wrapped around the gym (for better or for worse).
@jbevolve2023
@jbevolve2023 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your transparency. It's good for the fitness industry. Wishing you the best in this new chapter using TRT.
@mdoublehb6484
@mdoublehb6484 2 жыл бұрын
*TESTOSTERONE IS A STEROID* *THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO IS FALSE* *THE CHANNEL IS OBVIOUSLY COMPLETE NONSENSE*
@joshuads2566
@joshuads2566 2 жыл бұрын
The fitness industry is still suffering.
@ugurcanbacakl433
@ugurcanbacakl433 2 жыл бұрын
Health comes first!! You will be fine Larry
@ivo3598
@ivo3598 2 жыл бұрын
True but he needs to comeback to steroids to do records i think he will do long break and then start again
@silverstoneKOTOD
@silverstoneKOTOD 2 жыл бұрын
Joker one minute after taking the Titan Formula and transforming, "Batman I'm off the titan formula now!"
@shindama
@shindama Жыл бұрын
It’s obvious that even with the best genetics no one can lift or maintain the muscle mass these guys like mike Hearn and many others. There’s no free lunch. Glad you are getting healthy
@attilamolnar4741
@attilamolnar4741 2 жыл бұрын
You are a very honest man, Larry! That's why so many people love you! Respect!
@TheGingerKing-1
@TheGingerKing-1 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not love.
@johnouellet4099
@johnouellet4099 2 жыл бұрын
20years of steroids use to gain fame and wealth is not honest. Now show us what he can do 100% natural
@attilamolnar4741
@attilamolnar4741 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnouellet4099 you are wrong! Today, every athlete uses steroids! There is no clear victory! This is how records are made! All! But anyone who admits this and doesn't lie is certainly honest! I understand what you are saying, but there is no such thing as natural! He will never be natural again, you will never see what he could have done!
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