Only watched it because of redriven. There's no chance I'll ever buy one of these 😊

I'm not even in the market for a vehicle, but I always find myself watching the videos. Always entertaining.

Timothy Rigby's experience with LDV has put me off them for life. Even after forking out for the "rust protection" his repair quote for the rust was more than the cost of the car. I'd rather get an old petrol Holden Rodeo & spend the difference restoring it than risking my money on an LDV.

Anything from SAIC (LDV, MG etc) is an automatic no. The lack of rust prevention alone makes it a non starter, then there's the attitude of LDV themselves.

My courier bought several LDV vans, it was a disaster. They had lots of troubles including a motor that broke a crankshaft that LDV would not cover under warranty as they claimed they had violated the warranty. They switched to Ford Trannsits.

Wheel studs made of cheese are a big red flag. Quality of critical components like wheel studs, bearings, clutches and so on are absolutely clear indications of overall quality and suitability for heavy work and long term ownership. I bet their used value reflects this. Great Wall sold their pickup in the UK for a while but sales ground to a halt from a slow start. Some vet practices bought a few locally but soon got rid of them. Now you just can’t give the ones that have survived away for toffee.

From a repairers point of view, avoid them like covid. Replacement panel/parts are hard to get for repairs. They are so hard to get that we won't repair them. Also rust is a big issue. Even newer ones have rust where they shouldn't. If you do have one, when you're cleaning it, clean the underside of the vehicle or you'll get rust in the chassis.

Finally someone said it… ALL the dual cabs are a bit shit…

So, in short: if you want one, take it to a mechanic for a pre sale inspection. And an exorcist.

I would stick with my Triton. Proven warranties and parts availability. Reliable. Reputation and ease of service. Ive done the Gulf, Gibb, Mitchell and Tanami feeling confident that it will keep fetting me home.

LDV are rust-buckets. My brother had one he got about 6 years ago and there was no paint on the edges of the panels. Had 2 rust fixes then he finally convinced the dealer to buy it back. He felt very lucky.

The smash repairers that my wife worked for had a contract with the local GW dealer. They would come straight off the ship, and straight to the repair shop to have the rust cut out of them amongst various other defects that would happen on the trip over.

Jesus christ every single time there's a bit for the voiceover I love it, got my mum to watch the chinese voice over and she's now recommending we get one solely because she understood what all the features were

Neighbour had one of these.. I was under the bonnet trying to get it to start (batt dead) and couldn't get over the amount of rust on things like screws/bolts and things for something so new. Was like a 30 y/o car that spent its life on the coast (not exaggerating!)

drove a Mitsy for ten years did 250.000 kays. gave it hell. . new clutch after 8 years. SHE gave me a good service

No one in Australia or anywhere can convince me to buy an ute other than Toyota Hilux, new or old. What a feeling. Love your videos, always golden truth. No frills, yet decent comments

Best car review channel going at the moment 👌

Nothing stirs up the punters like a Chinese ute review😅.

Great vid. I owned one of the first LDV t60s in Australia. Was looking for new 4wd ute that wouldn't break the bank. It was a leased vehicle so wasn't concerned about having it for more than 5 years. Firstly... not sure you mentioned this in your video (I may have missed it) but the very first T60's in Australia do not have the all round view camera. Only reverse. So if you want/need the all round view camera, make sure it has one. Additionally, you may be able to use the lack of all round view camera as a bargaining chip to bring down the price. Mine was a 2017, if that helps. Secondly, get someone to check the BCM! Make sure it is mapped correctly. I found the dealers who sold these were generally selling LDV's as a second brand and their mechanics new *&^% all. I returned mine five, yes FIVE times to fix a relatively minor BCM issue (power windows wouldn't work) and they totally screwed up the BCM because my LDV was the earliest model (i.e. no all round camera, no bonnet latch alarm and probably other things). They just could not get it right. Even at the end the wing mirrors wouldn't fold in but i could live with that. Thirdly make sure you have a mechanic who knows LDV's back to front. As stated in this video, they are a bit of a Frankenstein when it comes to parts. Lastly, just before i traded it in, some component I think it was a 4wd selection motor, you will probably know what it's really called, totally failed. It resulted in the 4WD warning light coming on... sometimes. Ended up costing about $800 to get fixed. Just would not go into 4WD at all. I wasn't a big 4wder so doubt it was wear and tear... probably just forget what it was due to lack of use. Maybe make sure that is ok before you buy. I did like the car but the lack of experience from mechanics and accessories just made it a poor experience overall. That is nothing to do with being a Chinese built car, moreso the lack of effort to support the brand by Ateco. Consequently, I now drive a BT50.

I looked at buying one these back in 2018 but was put off by the choice of engine and low power output. Instead of the LDV T60 I bought a Foton Tunland. I still have the vehicle and it's currently only done 45,000Ks. The Fotons are butt ugly but suffer far less problems than the LDV's. Mine has done quite a bit of 4wd work as I live quite close to Vic High Country. So far I've seen no rust issues that seem common on some of the other Chinese utes. I don't regret buying it as it's been quite reliable but they're now somewhat orphans as Foton seems to have abandoned our market with diesel 4wd utes. Only time will tell if ultimately something serious breaks and I have difficulty getting parts for it.

I can't believe you'd even "cautiously" recommend one of these steaming piles of turd. I test drove one when looking to buy a new ute after test driving a Musso and RAN, back to the Ssangyong dealer to buy the Musso. The difference in quality between these two more price fighters is night and day. Musso actually works and is built properly with quality components.

I love the first minute of talk. Perfectly explained 80% of dual cab ute owners in Australia. Its terrible.

Redriven is on the money with most points, the T60 is actually very capable off road, the "fuel flap opening when opening the drivers door" is caused by the drivers door wiring shorting out. It gets caught on the door catch and can short out any wire in that harness, totally random which wire it shorts. the intake hose split is typical like many diesel utes. Only other thing not mentioned was drive belt tentioner bracket prone to snap, Other then that he is bang on.

As a mechanic I won’t work on it for the simple reason that I don’t make other people’s problems mine.

I was thinking about upgrading my '88 Brumby but you've changed my mind 😄, I'll stick with my 35 year old rust bucket with no electronics

Down on the Gold Coast a few months ago I saw an LDV with a dealer plate on it presumably out for a test drive and it was stopped on the side of the Smith St motorway because they drive shaft had come off the rear axle.

If you buy it , put your greatest effort to avoid any big crashes as parts hard to get or insurance will just write it off ( as 2 of my mates told me )

I did a test ride on the 1st gen, built finish was good and in some area’s better than the other brands, what did fail it was the Service and spare parts availability, even the sales guy said that it’s Not unusual to wait for 4 to 6 months for spare parts. The let down was the performance, No Performance 😂so the dealer had a throttle controller on it and said, yea I recommend you put one on as they are slooooo.😅

Been here with you since the channel had 3-4digit subs.. Hello from the Philippines!

It's a Chinese sh*tbox. Cousin bought one used with a little over 20,000km on it & the gearbox died before hitting 30,000km. Warranty fixed it, but he resold it & lost $4k on the hunk of junk & was lucky he didn't sell his BT-50 yet.

The Great Wall cars have rust also. A friend has one he bought brand new in 2013 and its hilarious. Literally cutting out panels, welding, bog and spray painting himself. 😂

Its crazy that brand new these are only a few thousand less than a much more tried and tested Triton and people still choose these. Could understand how compared to a Hilux it looks cheap but when a Japanese brand is offering much the same for not much more coin it should be a no-brainer to spend the extra few k

Been using this for the past year or so. 2022 model 2.7D. Company car. Primarily used the ute for long commutes (1000km+) weekly. Full load 200kg of stuff. Has no power to cut through traffic (takes a hot minute before able to pass even with no load) infotainment is finicky at best. Android auto doesn’t work since it needs its own app to work. Apple car play works well enough. Surprisingly comfortable. Fuel for long commutes is manageable. City driving just outright sucks. Only issues that popped up was the tire pressure sensors bugging out and slightly noisier engine after 45k km. surprised to see people complaining about rust since the one i used was exposed to very wet climate (malaysia raining season) had no rust so far.

Better to pay more and get Japanese or 2nd hand Japanese

As a American I love hearing someone call a Ford ranger sized vehicle as "very large"

Wow we getting more videos now, Keep up the good work!!!

Another brilliant review by ReDriven, keep up the great work guys. ❤

Thanks Adam - Chinese utes come with in-built factory rust throughout the vehicle so in less than three or four years it’s going to be a drama for these utes and MG SUVs etc. I’m happy with my Hilux but totally understand budget constrained buyers but that rust will kill the initial cheaper purchase - Chinese tech is not tech but random eccentricity.

Rust seems to occur in door welds, chassis rails, around /under windscreen seals , etc, etc . Electrical issues & sometimes failures are due to sensors, wiring, power spikes etc , then there appears to be some relay issues , then the infotainment system has a habit of failures , odd ECU glitches, transmission issues ,occasional power steering glitches, the list goes on. Not every vehicle appears to get a problem but there are a lot that do. I've got a colleague who's still got his at a dealers now & its been there 4 months. Its got a major electrical issue which is shutting the vehicle down, but when a GDU is plugged into the vehicle its not showing anything. Fault codes are reset which seems to temporarily alleviate the issue & days later its stuffed again . Anyone still wanna buy 1 ??

Great video! From what I’ve heard, the lack of accessories is due to a lack of support in Australia. There’s apparently just nothing for them from the players like ARB, TJM, etc.

Do a review on the Torana in the workshop😊

I owned one for a year 2020 t60 pro , traded it in for same year hilux , no mechanical issues but was having rust spots coming up .there a good looking ute thoe And I really like the look of the lux models with the chrome grill and sports bar

Makes me wonder what the Chinese electric cars will be like reliability wise a few years down the track.

Thanks for Keeping it Real ... 👍

Work at a dealership here and can confirm the ldv rust thing is a real issue we have had several ldv buy backs due to rust and ldv just ends up sending to get crushed

How a about a review of the Torana in Jim’s workshop😂

Rust on the LDV concerns me the most, everything else I could work with...Speaking of Chinese I would love to see a review on the Haval SUVs, I want a car I can throw the family in for road trips and take off-road with no concern for consequences (Scratches, Dints etc..) - Personally, I would love a Prado but at the massive lack of depreciation I would constantly be questioning where I would be taking it with fear of damage.

Apparently Australia is chewing gum on China’s shoe…. I wouldn’t buy a new one let alone a used one. Japan had to work hard to gain a reputation for quality and reliability. I’m definitely not considering buying a Chinese vehicle for at least 10yrs, if ever.

I've had an LDV G10 auto diesel people mover for three years. I drive it hard daily 350km minimum and still doing 10l/100km. Loads of space, specs, everyone amazed by the ride comfort, dual zone aircon that work perfect in all weather. Have kept it logbook serviced - which is a downer as it must be done every 10,000km. But otherwise, no issues yet - touch wood, and can't speak for anyone else.

All issues aside, I like the look of the LWB. If I was to own one, which I never will, I'd de-badge it.

I have one. It’s a great ute. Got dings dents scratches from being used as a 4wd and dog vehicle. It’s a great ute for the price. My complaints come to the tech. The Bluetooth issues are a pain trying to get CarPlay to reliably work. The seatbelt sensor beeping. The blind spot monitor gets dirt on the sensor so they think there’s something there. The backup sensors are a pain. Remove the tech it’s a good ute. Reminds me of my old 90s ute.

An 'Out of the blue' screen saver on your phone. Such good tastes.

The rust issues in LDVs is a bad problem and l know somebody who bought one of these and it spent 6 months at the dealer of his first 12 months of ownership l do not think much of anything built in China

Love the little things like "paying bill" at ad segment haha

Loving these videos! Do you guys reckon you could cover WOVI cars, like the pros and cons? Cheers

Interesting, I started the video 15secs after it came up and yes I enjoyed it......... I think I'm No.1 to watch it through ☺

The best channel ever, I wish I have a car that interest you, I would've contact you straight away

I really wanna see you guys cover any mahindra you can get your mits on, im frequently tempted by them during late night marketplace doomscrolling

My neighbour bought the first model and had it towed do the dealer 11 times in the first 12mths. The dealer gradually replaced parts until the last tow when they replaced the computer after which fixed the problem. The dealer them told him he had wiped his hands of him and never to return even for servicing.

2 brothers i worked with brought a pair of these and loved them as they suited their needs, with aftermarket bits they found lots of brand snobbery getting bullbars, roof racks and even getting spotlights installed with one auto elecky telling them "they don't do chinese crap". So far they have had no issues but all makers have their issues its how they are dealt with that makes or breaks them.

hi i have the 2020 t60 pro and its a great 4x4 no major problem with it have had 2 glow plugs replaced under warranty i do wish it had a rear diff lock in the pro and yes i would buy another one

Love the old Torana behind the mechanic. Reminds me of my Dads ones

Funny that the one thing the country of origin is we’ll known for, is one of the most complained about. The tech. 😂

I have a 2019 LDV t60 pro, these models also have a rear diff lock. Even tho they are dirt cheap and have the traits of a 30 year old rust bucket, they make great budget off roaders and quite reliable if you put the money into it. I like to say, it all depends on what side of the ship you get it from, they are either good or they are bad, no in between 😅

I would love you to do the same video as this but on the GWM ,I have heard they are pretty good.

Not sure if it was mentioned but they overheat towing, or at least the early ones did.

Like my mechanic said 'if a company can afford to sell a new car for as cheap as they do the what's wrong with them?' which I completely agree with plus I'd rather a ute that has a decent support network over something like the T60. To be completely honest if I had to get a cheap runabout ute I'd consider a Ssangyong Musso over the T60 even if it has the same sort of support network as the T60. I dread too read that report about the rust to do with the T60 but I might read it later to see just how bad it is lol. Honestly suprised by the T60 being today's review car and definitely an eye opener. Bloody good video guys and look forward to next week's videos as per usual so keep up the good work 👍.

Squinting into the sun 🤣. Never thought of it like that, but cannot unsee it now 👍👍🤣

Mr Rigby is not the only one to have terminal rust problems. But it is not just LDV. All Chinese brands here have cut corners in assembly quality!

Awesome review . Please do the fully electric one .

I was in the market for a new 2nd hand car ( you know what l mean ), and although l wanted an SUV, l looked at duel cabs as well. While l looked at these and other makes from China, whilst under warranty, maybe, but l have my doubts about them when it runs out. Little voice in my head was saying cheap and nasty as l intended to have it for quite a while. Maybe after 10 or 20 years' worth of history behind them ( in Australian conditions) will give me more answers. I ended up buying a 2019 Hyundai Tucson Highlander after watching your videos on the cars l was interested in, had it 6 months and put 10,000k's on it so far, no problems, so thanks for the great videos

2018 t60 pro 105000 never serviced at a dealer. I have never had any major problems.

i would like to see a gwm ute review even tho there not that old

Quick glance, what goes wrong takes up around to 1/5 to 1/4 of the entire time stamp… This is gonna be good 😂

I love the mega tub model as no one else offers this extended wheel base that does have the rear axle at the front of the tub causing loading and towing to unload the front axle weight which has always made me shy away from dual cabs

mine is a rust bucket already and lives at the repair shop, i am ready to give it away for peace of mind !!!

I test drove one today ugh never again one the worst experiences i have ever had. I understand its super cheap ute but I expect it not to sound like there a jet taking off and landing in the cab. Would you do one on the GWM canon-x?

Wow, the last part of your show, what can go wrong with it, leaves me to think the ute should be cheaper 😅😂

LDV were the British Leyland DAF Van company. I wonder if there is anything from the days of Marinas, Maestros and SD1s, no matter how trivial still being made for these?

Host is so connected to us when I skipped to the driving section while giving us the "do you care", my mental state became clear

You might say buy one of these because they're cheaper, however the depreciation on them or risk of issues literally makes them more expensive than just buying a reliable japanese brand.

Oh dam thanks for the review I was looking at getting one just because i can't afford a Hilux so looks like I'll be saving up more to get a Hilux.

If driven near the beach they rust very badly where door hinges meet the body and inside the rear tray panels and lower front guards. My neigbour had one, it drove ok but the rust stains were an eye sore. He sold it with a 6k loss, the car was a 2021 unit with only 8K on the clock. My good old Grand Cherokee 2000, no rust at all over the 8 years I've had it and it launches my boat too.

Would really like to see what you think of the GWM Cannon X 2022 onward, I have bought one and really impressed with it and its features.

After what the Chinese did with Australian Barley, lobster and wine export industry, and their bond with Russia. I would not purchase a Chinese ute.

Nice to see you do a show on a 2012 chrysler 300 diesel. Mine has been a great vehicle. Would love to see someone else's view

Ive bought 2020 ldv t60 trailrider 2nd hand 65000 k's not one issue so far and its a diesel

Had one now for over 2 years, nothing special and engine is noisy. Got a idrive on mine and that makes it a different beast. It does the job and i actually like it for longer trips.

I'm actively looking for one. Where else are you going to get a dual cab with a half decent tray size?

No, just no. Everyone I know who works with SAIC products says they're a disaster, it's embarrassing to be seen in the same suburb as an LDV and they have a terrible attitude to customer service. Buy something better but with a few years and ks on it.

BWM and LDV are different breeds. Their quality and rep are heaven and hell in 2024.

You guys keen to do a 2023 Toyota Prado GX? Only done one of the old model?

More outtakes pls 😂

@11:15 you say a negative of the longer wheel base is the turning circle or the amount of space you need to do a u’ie is “reduced”. Shouldn’t that be “increased.

Larry Da-Vid? Surely the legroom was 'prettay, prettay, prettay good'

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That old Torana would last longer than this thing..

Someone needs to do a cheap ute showdown comparison between the SsangYong, GWM and LDV please!

That's VM Motori Jimmy and they make great boat anchors

Watching from New Zealand, we brought a 2022 t60, 6 speed manual, it's currently in the dealership getting a replacement gearbox under warranty at 31,000 km, there's been a few other electrical gremlins 😂 There's no way I'd own one of these out of warranty so will be selling before that runs out.