What Are Race Spec Circular Connectors? | Motorsport Connectors [

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Race Spec, Mil Spec and Aerospace are just a few terms thrown around, correctly or incorrectly, when it comes to the circular connectors used in motorsport wiring applications, but as the mix of terms implies, there is a massive amount of misunderstanding about how and where these connectors are used and where to source them, let alone what they're called.
NOTE: This is just ONE lesson from the full Practical Wiring - Professional Motorsport Harness Construction course, link below.
In this lesson we're going to dive into these 'Race Spec' (we've picked a side 😅 ) circular connectors that are used in many professional motorsport wiring harnesses covering off some of the options you have for purchase, the required tooling and why it is critical to use it, how to pin and de-pin your closed barrel pins and in what order along with why you should make sure you use the right type of wire for your connector.
Traditionally the tools and materials we use for motorsport wiring come from the Aerospace industry, however, as time goes on and the needs of the motorsport industry are better understood the likes of motorsport specific 'Race Spec' connectors in the form of offerings from Souriau and Deustch have become available to both professional and amateur levels alike.
The tooling and materials required to make correct use of connectors like this are specified by the manufactures, and we strongly advise you follow these guidelines. If you can't, it is better to use the tools and materials you do have access to on a more suitable connector to avoid reliability issues, damage and wasted time and money. Used correctly, you can ensure the opposite by producing a quality wiring harness that is going to outlast the life of your vehicle.
This lesson is a bit of a monster, so as well as the time stamps we have broken things up into 6 main sections which are:
1.) Specifying the best connector for your application
2.) Required tooling
3.) Pinning process (crimping)
4.) Wiring options (or lack of)
5.) Practical example of above knowledge put into action
6.) Key points you should now understand. Don't understand these? Have another watch remembering this is just ONE module from a full, detailed wiring course which you can enroll in via the link below.
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0:00 - Why Use These Connectors?
0:34 - Popular Options
1:02 - 1.) Specifying Your Best Option/s
2:04 - Connector Construction and Configurations
2:55 - Part Number Explanations
5:21 - Locking Feature
5:42 - 2.) Tooling
6:20 - DMC AFM8 Crimp Tool
7:17 - Selectable Positioner/Dies
8:30 - 3.) Closed Barrel Pinning Process
10:03 - DMC Tool Adjustments
11:20 - Positioner/Die Selection
11:35 - Crimping
13:00 - Insertion/Extraction Tools
14:20 - Pin Insertion + Pro Tip
15:58 - KEY DETAIL: Rotation = No
16:43 - Pin Extraction
17:54 - 4.) Wiring Options and Pinning Order
19:07 - Salvaging Connector That Has Incorrect Wiring
19:46 - Pinning Order
20:24 - 5.) PRACTICAL EXAMPLE
24:00 - Service Loops Explained
25:00 - Back To The Job At Hand
27:06 - Hit The Link Below If You Want To Learn More
27:13 - 6.) Lesson Take Away
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LINKS:
Practical Wiring - Professional Motorsport Harness Construction Course: hpcdmy.co/hpa-pro-wiring-yt
DEUTSCH AS Standard Series Connectors: hpcdmy.co/te-autosport
SOURIAU 8STA/8TA Series: hpcdmy.co/souriau-autosport
Want to learn more about motorsport wiring? Come along to the next FREE live lesson: bit.ly/WireLive
#highperformanceacademy #wiring101 #motorsportwiring #autosport #souriau #deustch #racespec #circularconnectors #dontletthesmokeout

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@hpa101
@hpa101 2 жыл бұрын
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@tgiencke
@tgiencke 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I have noticed in motorsport wiring that we don’t do in aerospace wiring is the use of boots on the backside of connectors. In aerospace we use potting compound of the wires are soldered to the pins (very old school) and a saddle-clamp for every crimped pin connector. Also we don’t do that small service loop, we route the cable to have a small “drip-droop” before the connector so if a liquid is running down the cable that it drips off the cable before running into the connector. Also in 20 years I have never used a lubricant (IPA) while working with a connector.
@skiptastic1000
@skiptastic1000 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I would add that the shrinkable boot was placed on before the pins were inserted into the back of the connector. A frustrating scenario prevented.
@NaughtiusMaximu5
@NaughtiusMaximu5 Жыл бұрын
in US military aircraft, we use practically the same connectors, we call them cannon plugs. we also have an extraction tool that pushes the pin out from the open side, ie. opposite the wire side, to be used with the standard plastic or metal extractor from the wire side. saved me a few times
@richardlong6097
@richardlong6097 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, between videos and "classes" u guys cover some really important stuff.
@mikeycornwell0138
@mikeycornwell0138 3 жыл бұрын
Good ol cannon plugs as they are called in aircraft, there are many more manufacturers of these in that industry. Search for cannon plug pliers, always a good thing to have on hand for connecting/disconnecting plugs in tight spaces. The cast aluminum on the generic slip jaws with red inserts is actually clean enough to tig into 90* etc if you need a custom set up.
@nottobay6768
@nottobay6768 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing me the name of the tool, I just been calling those pins aviation style pins because my dad who works on aircraft brings them home from work.
@JWClassicVW
@JWClassicVW 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful information!!
@tgiencke
@tgiencke 3 жыл бұрын
Two key things from two decades of experience: 1. Do not mix manufacturers of circular connectors between the plug and socket ever! The reason is the pin vibrating in the socket and creating a nightmare to troubleshoot. We had this issue when putting new GE turbofan engines to the KC-135 (Boeing 707). 2. In 20 years I never used pin positioner dies. Just be observant while positioning the pin while closing the crimper and it grabbing the pin. Very easy, and hard to screw up.
@SnowGolem1TheL33t
@SnowGolem1TheL33t 3 жыл бұрын
2 decades of experience doesn't mean you were doing it right. The pin positioner dies create a more reliable crimp than your guesswork ever could.
@tgiencke
@tgiencke 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnowGolem1TheL33t yeah, and how many connectors have you done? The fact is the positioner dies get ruined with use because the crimping fingers grab onto the positioner and crush it so everyone throws them away after a few years.
@SnowGolem1TheL33t
@SnowGolem1TheL33t 3 жыл бұрын
@@tgiencke A few years of accuracy beats having questionable reliability with mission critical hardware. The dies are easily replaced, I stopped counting crimps the day I started so I couldn't tell ya, many thousands of all different kinds.
@ferrari30787
@ferrari30787 2 жыл бұрын
@@tgiencke genuinely curious here, what crimp tool and positioner are you referring to?
@MarcusMussawar
@MarcusMussawar 2 жыл бұрын
watching these videos and doing this work makes me feel sad when I see f1 cars etc crash
@hpa101
@hpa101 2 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, all parts on an F1 car have a 'life', so at some point even without a crash they are replaced as part of the general maintenance cycle to ensure the best chance of reliability - Taz.
@WhiteVaille
@WhiteVaille 3 жыл бұрын
Question about wire lube, around the 15 minute mark. IPA makes sense, but what about silicone dielectric? That would aid in corrosion resistance and keeping out moisture, wouldn't it? I'm just curious why dielectric grease isn't used more often for these applications, and when and where should it be used?
@mikeycornwell0138
@mikeycornwell0138 3 жыл бұрын
The dielectric grease would physically take up space in an already tight fit and cause issues with the pin retention. IPA evaporates, and the plug construction itself takes any corrosion or water issues.
@pbAdpcustoms
@pbAdpcustoms 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really like the knipex 12 12 13 and 12 12 14 precision strippers. They do an awesome job and are half or little more then half the cost of the higher price strippers like the ergo lite or ideal stripmaster
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for sharing your thoughts and experience there. More solid tools out there now than we could ever have the chance to try so info like this is always appreciated by others =) - Taz.
@nicholasseeger4637
@nicholasseeger4637 Жыл бұрын
Out of interest, is the standard to have the Pins in the receptacle and sockets in the Plug? Visa versa? Or does it depend on the application which side the pin / socket is in?
@trackrat62
@trackrat62 Жыл бұрын
Pins typically go on the non-energized side of the disconnect. The receptacle can remain powered without risk of shock to operators. This is the same as home electrical.
@bundled-micro-coaxial-cable
@bundled-micro-coaxial-cable Жыл бұрын
Very nice!!
@bindabbin6067
@bindabbin6067 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a discord I could talk with you on about pinning a specific vehicle. I have some questions and this was extremely helpful. Thank you and have a good day.
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there Seth, we do not sorry, we do have a members only forum though here: www.hpacademy.com/forum - Taz.
@drtube159
@drtube159 Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the insertion/extraction tool?
@hpa101
@hpa101 Жыл бұрын
It comes with the connector if you mean the specific white and green one Zac has there. Talk to your supplier if you need another, if they also do wiring work they probably have some spare - Taz.
@drtube159
@drtube159 Жыл бұрын
@@hpa101 Thanks for getting back to me. I found some tooling online, thanks again you guys post great content!
@TheGoodMedicine
@TheGoodMedicine 3 жыл бұрын
Where is a good reliable place to buy Tefzel wires?
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
There is not one 'best' option, the two main factors that determine a solid reliable supplier for you will be your location and the quantities you buy in. Check out this list to start narrowing things down and zeroing in on one, hope it helps, a few HPA members have put some solid effort into it for everyones benefit 🤘 - www.hpacademy.com/forum/efi-wiring-fundamentals/show/wiring-and-accessories-suppliers-list - Taz.
@TheGoodMedicine
@TheGoodMedicine 3 жыл бұрын
@@hpa101 Thank you Taz
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGoodMedicine no worries, more the members work than mine to be fair but hope it helps 🤘
@nottobay6768
@nottobay6768 3 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you, but those connectors aren't actually "built for racing" they are a standard used on commercial and military aircraft, I know cuase my dad works on aircraft and has brought plenty of them home. 🤣
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you but your Dad is lying to you about working on aircraft if he's bringing Autosport connectors home bud =D PS: They do use the same parts bins, and there's really not much of a conversation to be had from there on why that doesn't actually matter at all that hasn't been covered in the video or description I reckon 😉 - Taz.
@nottobay6768
@nottobay6768 3 жыл бұрын
@@hpa101 yah big difference is the use of boots because planes don't drive through puddles so they can cheat there. 🤣
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
Well, we all hope that no planes are driving through puddles....😅 - Taz.
@Reedith
@Reedith Жыл бұрын
@@nottobay6768 is a cloud not just a puddle in the sky ?
@ShoshinMizu
@ShoshinMizu 7 ай бұрын
now tellem how much those connectors cost lol
@hpa101
@hpa101 7 ай бұрын
Depending on size (and brand) they can start around $100 USD. The tooling isn't cheap either. You can sometimes get them secondhand from old 'lifed' harnesses - Taz.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 3 жыл бұрын
These are just newer versions of the now almost 100 year old us military aerospace connector. Great stuff, but hardly motorsport specific.
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are newer motorsport specific versions that use the same parts bins. Not sure what point you're trying to make there that is adding any value to the topic though, is there more you can add to make your relevant point clear? PS: Cannon plugs gained traction in the film industry first to the best of my knowledge, not that it matters in the slightest 🤘 - Taz.
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 3 жыл бұрын
@@hpa101 booo!
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 жыл бұрын
@The Vibe Ahh!
@SnowGolem1TheL33t
@SnowGolem1TheL33t 3 жыл бұрын
They never said the connector design is Motorsport specific, the techniques are however. Any mention of specifics in video is obviously in comparison to quick connects and other normal automotive connectors which aren't good enough for motorsport use. Dumb comment mr Nobody :')
@Takeitlightly6
@Takeitlightly6 Жыл бұрын
Ay mate all i want in life if i ever become billionaire is to pay him a fat salary to be my butler…and wake me up every morning…. On top of that i will never touch the wire again as it has a gazillion cancer or reproductive warning…. Look how eloquently he speaks….look at those Os.
@hpa101
@hpa101 Жыл бұрын
He's great company too haha - Taz.
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