Patronising and condescending also comes to mind....

@@habsom1406 also the idea that the average voter reads the manifesto of each and every political party is manifestly untrue, no pun intended.

@@casanovafunkenstein5090 But it was such a great pun!😳

@@casanovafunkenstein5090 I personally find it's better to be completely punrepentant.

She was also saying that "people read the manifestos" etc, but their minds will be typically made up before that. And they will have been told who is the 'bogeyman' and will blindly follow it. A lot of folk these days don't have the time to analyze everything, because most politics on TV is now turning into what the USA has been, an drama crock of crap that ignores the main issues for the sake of entertainment and dividing people.

Tories like Starmer have no use for art that can't be used to make money.

Agreed :

But. Loach is a denier lol

​@@dyarwood85 he certainly is not.

@@dyarwood85citation please

She probably thinks Noam Chomsky is a minor character on The Smurfs.

Noam Chomsky greatest living intellectual.

@@fuckbankers Yes. The five filters of mass media. Coauthored with Herman

Even outside of that, I just want to ask her why the fuck she's chosen to be in that job if she seriously believes it has no effect on the public or informing them

“She has obviously not heard of manufactured consent…” Is that a fancy new term for false consciousness? The idiots proles don’t really know what they think.

Even the edutainment channels, like Jay Foreman's lovely Politics Unboringed series, mock the idea of reading party manifestos as being painfully boring. The only political manifestos people read are The Communist Manifesto and The Unabomber Manifesto, and that's not because they're planning on voting for Karl Marx or Ted Kaczynski.

Yep whenever I ask someone if they have read the manifesto or any direct comunication from any party they always give me a look to say, No what kind of weirdo would do that.

I really wish Faiza had responded by asking her whether she thinks the media had no influence, as her loaded question about "people making up their own minds" was ridiculous and basically conceded the accusations of bias by making excuses for it.

If people read manifestos, they would have read the feeble pamphlet offered up by Boris and voted in their droves against the yob.

Not always, but frequently.

@@skyclaw call it a heuristic: it's not a foolproof rule, but a good starting point worthy of subsequent validation or dismissal.

Well said that man, its been my philosophy for years.

So refreshing to hear that a politician

@@criss5590 too many politicians have done nothing to deserve that kind of praise (pretty much the opposite). But faiza shaheen seems to have done so

@@johannasegard737 I don't support left or right I support political representatives that support their electorate. 👏👏

@@criss5590 like Jeremy Corbyn and now Faiza

@Mike Morris really? Lot are getting rediculous.

the Forde report is being ignored on left centrist youtube channels - kind of sad

It's been ignored by Starmer and he ordered it. Sadly it didn't say what he wanted it to say.

The Forde report stared that anti-semetism within Labour was not overstated or exaggerated and Corbyn was wrong to claim it was. That is not an exoneration. The report had plenty of criticism to go around and Corbyn does not come out of it looking any better than anyone else. Corbyn was hugely unpopular with the country at large, some of that was undoubtedly due to Tory and others propaganda, but trying to claim that it was exclusively due to propaganda is wishful thinking on another level. Even if Corbyn's massive unpopularity had been exclusively down to propaganda, that wouldn't change the reality that he was hugely unpopular. None of his policies got a fair hearing because he was so personally unpopular. At that point, he became the problem, and the leaders main role is to position the party to win the election, if they themselves are the main obstacle to winning that election, then they should go. No matter who they are, or what they have done, the party and the country are bigger issues than one person. It is identical to the issue the Tories struggled with protecting Boris amid his lies, they treated the party as more important than the country, and elements of Labour fell into the same trap with Corbyn. There is a wealth of evidence to support that Shaheen is wrong in her opinion to blame propaganda exclusively for the Labour defeat, but she is welcome to hold it. If she can set aside that opinion in service to the greater Labour good, then she should absolutely be the Labour candidate, and receive the full support of the party.

Another trick of the Right wing media - when they're not lying to us, they're lying by omission.

Corbyn’s not hugely unpopular, and in any case that wouldn’t justify make shit up

when you talk palestine atrocities your anti muslim try out a different bias

It's a trick they always use.

@@karazor-el9596 because Palestine is the underdog, they are the victims because they have very little power in front of a US backed Israël who has now made peaceful relations with most of the big muslim country in the region. Palestine is alone and even though you are right they can also create violence it is to such a limited level (like their just an annoyance really) that putting the two on the same level is just either ignorant or hypocritical...

I continue talking as it is a fact .English but living in Berlin I've suffered at their hands just because I lived here .Three complete body searches and two cameras smashed Never set foot in the land of the hypocrites ever again ...They use methods they whine were used on them .How odd .

@@karazor-el9596 they have every right to fight occupation. What would you do?

Journalist Working for The Sun Pick one.

@@tjenadonn6158 agreed: mutually-exclusive descriptions.

Ironic on two counts - an anti-racist and a journalist!

You can tell them apart from Tories by the color of their ties, and...that's literally the only difference.

Tories in red ties

Yep. She needs to make immediate and devastating examples out of people via defamation lawsuits. I'd go so far as saying that she should bait targets into making false allegations. Put the squeeze on them, and make the UK MSM consider doing something they've not done in a long time: fact-based reporting.

The most frustrating thing about Corbyn was that he treated people who were his bitter enemies as though their repulsive inventions were worthy of any consideration. He should have treated them with the contempt they deserved and ignored them. So should Starmer and co be treated with their totally invented accusations of "antisemitism" against anyone who does not agree with him.

With Hillary Clinton the democrats managed to choose the only candidate in their party that was a worse option than Trump !

Damn. I have to ask, who is no. 1?

@@kylieb5213 Quite. She's near or at the top of my list - mind you there's a lot of competition - most of which, like her, I don't often watch.

@@kylieb5213 😂 Probably a toss-up between Andrew Neil and Nick Robinson

Only 48!! 😮

If you criticized the Catholic church you criticize the Romans and are akin to the struggle of the pfj. As was in the minutes of our last meeting the big question is, what have the Romans done for us?

@@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769 Down with the People's Front of Judea! Long live the Judean People's Front!

If you criticised the Catholic Church, most people in Ireland wouldn't blink an eye. They have become largely irrelevant.

Starmer didn't read the Amnesty International report on Apartheid in Israel

@@52power 👍

... says a media source, attempting to persuade people they have no influence... The contempt in which the general population are held by media mouthpieces never ceases to astonish me.

Anyone who reads thee British press is not very bright .It has never been brilliant but is lower than the gutter now .

@@PortilloMoment 💯💯💯

The media spends millions on influencing public opinion . That's pretty much all it does . It certainly doesn't hold authority to account .

The Working-class can haul their ass I GOT the Foreman Job at last……poverty poverty knocks.

In her little bubble I suspect she'd advance the idea that she 'represented the facts' or similar drivel.

They were useless & only after feathering their own nests even with clause 4 . All comrades are equal ,but those in the ruling clique are always more equal .

Can someone explain what clause 4 is please

@@fader1912 the intention of the labour party to achieve socialism.

@@fader1912 specifically, common ownership of industry, which means collectivising the means of production

@@simplypodly thank you, really appreciate it!

Me too.

The Tories know their days are numbered, the older generations that adhere to the MSM are dying out, and once they're gone the Conservative control of England will die out too.

Rubbish she will be no good which is strong Tory, we need a strong mp not one that has courted controversy.

@iananderson. Yes what's the point of Emma Barnet and her Ilk if the media has no influence.

Yep - Murdoch doesn't spend money for no reason. The poisonous drip, drip of Right wing propaganda in the mainsteam media works.

Or accusing Johnson of being honest.

Your mistake Peter, accusing Corbyn of racism or anti Semitism is the equivalent of accusing Margaret Thatcher of being in the communist party.

I'm afraid the middle class, middle management types that run it wouldn't be pleased with that at all. They much prefer their mediocrity and not upsetting the money.

@@PortilloMoment Why do the trade unions put up with it? They should consider investing their donations elsewhere until Labour starts working for working people ( a financial strike action)

If she wins, it will help Stamer get the keys to 10 Downing Street!

Need 20% of MPs votes to get on the ballot now.

Angela Raylor and Mick Lynch .What a team .They would rebuild the mess that is UK and cope with the atrocious press .

We need a new party. It's rotten to the core now

Starmer needs to go

VOR Pretty much what you'd expect from him . The Labour Party died when it became Blair's New Labour , Thatcher's greatest achievement .

Just goes to show, both major parties are right wing.

It's a Murdochracy.

Never give up on hope. 👍🙏💖👊🔥

The SNP should spin off an ENP, to liberate England from the influence of Westminster.

@@tjenadonn6158 Just liberating it from the Tories is enough. Long game though, and I'll be long dead when and if it ever happens.

Need a new labour built off the unions again get mick lynch up there

Most interviews in general are terrible. Frank Zappa was right when he said that they're one step removed from the Inquisition, and the ones that aren't are usually just glorified PR statements made by two people instead of one.

Just irks me that she didn't respond "Do you think the media has zero influence?" to that ridiculous, loaded question about whether she doesn't believe people are able to make up their own minds. The journalist basically conceded the bias when she started excusing it, so it would've been much better to challenge her excuse than to repeat the accusations of bias.

@@sh0werp0wer yes, or if she had said "So, you & your editor are pointless, is that right? Or failures?"

hahaha discusting just shows the level of your intelligence

@shaun lynch So you will be rooting for Duncan Smith ?

Jacky boy not in a place to lecture anyone on anything after his role in Iraq

Jack Straw dirtied hi hands when he lied about Iraq . He was pathetic and in it for money along with Blair .The press were behind that .

@shaun lynch I don't see any irony either... just reads like a bummer mate.

isnt he now a Lord? just checked the government website and Straw is no longer a Labour MP..an independent???

Who _acts_ like she doesn’t believe in smear campaigns, while actually engaging in one.

@@skyclaw Engaging in smears in that VERY segment of a news show, no less.

And Straw coddled Pinochet.

Sounds like a law firm that will absolutely fuck you over.

The fact that his name is one letter off from my go-to make of fountain pen is the most minor of grievances I have with him. Seriously though. LAMY Safari. Virtually indestructible, cost something like $30 for a pen that will last a lifetime, writes smoother than any ballpoint you can find. I get that this sounds bougie as fuck but I like to stay analogue and I'm allowed my indulgences.

He is an out and out careerist - but he joined the wrong party.

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Tim Castle They should all be in jail .

He doesn't though

Proves that she's a bought so-called presenter. An utterly patronising comment and certainly not a genuine question.

I don't believe that British politicians can make up their own minds. If it wasn't for direct missives from NewsCorp HQ no one remaining in Labour or the Tories would have any idea what to say or do.

fucking ridiculous. so, ALL media are the same in EVERY country then. No influence at all. smh.

The media know they can play a big role in making or breaking someone, they wouldn’t do it otherwise!

If Labour Inc knew what was good for it they'd purge Starmer and his co-conspirators like a bad case of food poisoning.

@@tjenadonn6158 Corbyn and his polcies didn't resonant with voters, the 2019 GE is evidence of that. The fact Labour have taken a different path with Starmer shows they have an understanding of what is good for them.

I agree with your points but, this video being a prime example, labour party members are far more interested in grandstanding and washing dirty laundry in public to 'prove' how much more socialist they are than anyone else in the party. It's bloody stupid, divisive and does not win elections, the RW media will do its damnedest to destroy any opposition to the tories etc. and Labour party members seem intent on doing their job for them.

@@ollyole4560 If you read the Forde Report (well if you were literate you wouldn't be a Tory and thus wouldn't support Starmer, but anyways) you'd know that Corbyn lost because Starmer and his co-conspirators deliberately sabotaged him. Corbyn really said nothing that Mick Lynch isn't saying, and he's currently kicking Kier Starmer the Union Harmer's ass in the polls despite not belonging to a political party. The only difference is that Mick doesn't have his own team working against him. Now I know what you're going to say: it's the same thing every Starmer fan says when someone disagrees with them. "But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn? But what about Corbyn?" Spare me for fuck's sake. Just accept that you're a Tory, that you wish those poors would learn their place, and line up to vote for Truss just like Starmer will be doing. If you want Tories vote for Tories: stop ruining Labour.

@@tjenadonn6158 No, I will not accept your delusion view of the world. I've been a member of the labour party for over a decade now and know exactly how I feel politically. I actually support this party and really hope they win the next GE. You on the other hand are so far removed from reality you think everything is some kind of conspiracy. Kier was elected democratically by the membership to lead, he is leading and if he does win the next GE, he will bring back social mobility and improve the lives of those most in need as every labour government has done in the last century.

Ask Jack Straw how Labour are doing in their former fiefdom in Scotland. That tell us all we need to know about Starmer's Labour Party.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Actual, ripped right from Orwell Doublespeak.

His reaction was priceless. Tiocfaidh ár lá

no hes not even a Blair. Blair had energy a charm youth and dont you recall him belting out "education education education". Yeah a dopey vision but a vision at least. Blair also cuddled up to the Murdoch press to get elected ...but Starmer is nowhere in Blairs league

For the English government to make Scotland whole again after 300 year of occupation will cost more than England is worth.

Far from a rant. An informed and level headed analysis of the facts.

“rant” = a term used boringly often from Righties whose understanding of politics, social and economic issues is dictated by the Sun, and if it’s read to them, The Mail.

@@DeanJuvenal Nice necro-bump, and great job of entirely missing the point. 🤦