@@jayrideau tell me about it, she give us a hard problem, walk around the room glaring at everyone's screen and jumping on the first person she saw stuck and had a rule where the first person finished got an A after that a portion of the class got an -A and so on. F if you couldn't do it. That class would wear you out, felt like 8 hrs instead of 1.

@@Mr.Pop0 That means she didnt wanna be there lol

Wasted 3 years in a career I didnt give a dang about because of a useless "no quit" mindset

Cs?

@@MonsiourPotatoHead yeah, computer science

@@HyperionBadger interesting. And in what ways specifically has it changed your personality?

@@MonsiourPotatoHead It made me way more aggressive and disciplined. I went from being a passive person to borderline arrogant. I also feel like there is nothing I can't learn, no concept, no matter how complex is impossible to understand. This is what 8 - 14 hours of studying daily does to a person lol.

@@HyperionBadger its true. The older i get. The more i realize. Learning is a choice.

I think struggling helps people grow and it humbles them. Not everything should be fun or easy to get. If it was, then for me, it doesn't feel like earned it.

@@3aminthesummer450 I respect your opinion. I’ve been to places and countries where people struggle and work hard and are still in poverty and dying. Explain to them your methodology and look them in the eye when they respond to you . The hardest working people in the world are the poor and they are dying as the rich line their pockets and tell others to “pick themselves up by the bootstraps” . I know people that work 40-60 hr weeks and still live in poverty. But I guess they need to understand that all that death and desperation they live around is so they will “feel like they earned something” when they earn a piece of a crumb of what they should have to live. I would sincerely ask you to film your conversation with these people as well. I need to watch someone be educated by proper elders wisdom

Suffering does not equal adversity

@Josh JeanJacket Jaeger no offense but we will agree to disagree. A tree does not struggle to grow. Growing and Regrowth is in its nature. Humans have the same properties. A child grows regardless of environment. A person grows old, regardless of intent. That means growth is apart of our nature too. Someone ascribed growth to pain because they wanted to justify suffering. That is something that a society of compassion, investigation, and fact, can never allow. We must be better than that. Our technology allows us to become what we endeavor to be instead of just what our base environment suggests we should be. I challenge you to see my way of thinking. I certainly see yours. I respect it, even in my disagreement.

@@mercury0855 people do not grow regardless of intent. Our intent to stay alive is our intent to grow old. I partially understand where you are coming from, however there are patterns of duality throughout the world. Sometimes you cannot have one without the other. If there was no suffering, there would be no fulfillment in my opinion.

Its funny because in my mind College does the opposite of everything you just listed. They manipulate people into careers in order to fit society's needs and make money loads of money in the process. They load students with tons of debt and have no "Empathy" for what they have done to such a young person. And your 3rd point is actually completely true, you learn to make better decisions, like stop going to school its a scam., stop trusting administrators they are liars, and stop trusting teachers because most of them couldn't figure life out and are just stuck in a job they hate.

​@@corysgood881 I'm sure what you describe is true for some, but it's a just an umbrella/surface view of talking points that you get from people like Ben Shapiro, and it doesn't have to be true. A major benefit of learning critical thinking is to understand when you are being manipulated and how to act in response. This skill can apply to your own college experience. College can be achieved at a cheap enough price for many. Consider these options: - Community College for two years, then transfer to a four year school and commute instead of paying for all the bells and whistles of dorm life and food plans. - Working while taking classes helps. - If you work after high school and then go to college around age 24 you can file for financial aid independently of guardians (if you had/have any), effectively lowering your loans and expenses because their income no longer affects your application. This was my experience: I came from a family without any money to send me to college so I would be on my own for education. I worked full time until age 24, went to community college, then transferred to a 4 year state school and commuted to all of my classes with a cheap enough car I bought while working full time. I continued to work while going to school. I took 4 Years of college classes and I got it all done for about 8K in education fees, no loans, and about $500 total for books (the library often has copies you can use so sometimes you don't even need to buy books), and then gas to commute to college. There were also a bunch of scholarships available that I could have applied for that I didn't even learn about until later.

@@Andrew-yj4pn Ben Shapiro? He has a Harvard law degree. The exact opposite example of what I’m talking about. Elon musk or mark zuckerburg are better examples. People who saw how worthless college was and dropped out because they saw the value in learning what they wanted to learn instead of what they were told to learn. When did you go to college? 1985? 8k is a semester at a California state college, A SEMESTER, and that is in state tuition for San Diego state. A college most people don’t consider to be very prestigious even. And that’s just for undergrad programs. For graduate programs those fees go up 20% at least. Are there cheaper options? Yes. But at 18 how are you supposed to figure all of that out? Can you remember how ignorant and clueless you were at that age? If not you aren’t relating to the average 18 year old, because the path you took is the very very rare path. Most students get SCAMMED into going to schools with astronomical fees.

@@corysgood881 I'm NOT holding up Ben Shapiro as an example -- I am criticizing the talking points you mention as talking points that people LIKE Ben Shapiro espouse when they go on anti-college rants. They use talking points that are the extreme/worst examples. Like I said, college doesn't have to be that expensive. I graduated college in 2016, and I already mentioned the financially responsible way that I made that happen. What do you mean by "at 18 how are you supposed to figure all of that out?" At 18 you are legally an adult, and have to become responsible for your actions -- for me, that meant not signing up for crippling debt and instead getting a minimum wage job stocking shelves at a liquor store so I could work my way up, expand my responsibilities, start getting raises, and eventually afford a vehicle. Then, I used google to better understand how financial aid works, and how community college works, and that resulted in my very inexpensive path to a college degree. I wasn't a smart kid in high school and struggled with a lot of classes, but I knew enough upon graduation not to sign off on owing any college large sums of money because I barely had any money to my name. I don't think this is very difficult or too much to ask of an 18 year old to figure this out. You can get a cheap enough degree along with further developing skills like critical thinking and empathy along the way (provided you research and sign up for the kinds of classes that can expand those skills).