You know lionmaker gave Cuties a glowing review.

Why they all look the same?

“We were excited for her to turn 18 so we can show everybody it’s okay” Man literally admits to grooming

His attempts to manipulate and lie his way out of all of this, makes my skin crawl/makes me so angry. Absolute scumbag

Lionmaker: *debunks nothing* Also Lionmaker: “I’m so sick of having to debunk all these KZfaq videos”

I ate a really good Club sandwich with country ham, cheddar cheese, tomatoes, romaine lettuce, and a side of Lays potato chips. I hope you all get to eat a really good sandwich as well!

"She never sent me nude pictures, she was not that girl" Even though you tried so hard to make her that girl, Lion.

Thank you for shouting out the Nazbol Gang tom

“She didn’t send the picture. It was a screenshot.” - a) there’s barely a difference and b) presumably he took the screen shot without her consent... THATS WORSE BRUH

Sending off the message to a dude with a creator manager that directly led to his ban is my favorite accomplishment to date

"They didn't investigate until they were alerted!" Uhhhhhhh, that's kinda how investigations start out... This man is delusional as hell.

imagine being raided by the FBI and you hit em with the "they're not pictures, they're screenshots" alright boys pack it up we got nothin it's just screenshots

Homie says that Paige is the victim here. Yeah bro. We know.

I just had flashbacks of Clown angrily ranting about how the 13 year old's mother sounded like she was really drunk, slurring her words and taking 5 minutes to say a sentence

The way that Lionmaker dealt with everything is really indicative of the fact that his moral compass is so screwd he can't even realize it.

"Won't someone feel bad for this poor girl who I made into a victim" what is this trash mentality

“Is it morally wrong for a 28 year old man to date a 16 year old?” “... dude, I don’t know your life!” If the answer to that question is anything other than “uh, DUH” then he may as well just call the cops on himself

A crazy how he's denying the lawsuit but not denying the cp on his computer

Lionmaker: She did not take a photo i took a screenshot So you are the one who distributed cp not her holy hell

I find it pretty weird how I literally rewatched the colossal interview this week. Great vid btw

the goosebumps intro was absolutely perfect

20:09 - 20:19 tell me this doesn't sound like "and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids" from scooby-doo LMAO

Stamps is a wholesome king, it’s so hard seeing his old vids with creeps knowing he doesn’t associate with that bullshit.

"I didn't make this video, he did." He literally had his *own face* in it, *was the one speaking* , and decides to upload it on *his own channel.*

i did not have turkey this thanksgiving so he could make this video

Some people don’t realize turkey Tom is one of the important KZfaqrs on the platform

4:52 well, well, well, how the turn tables

"we're not roaring because i'm telling you to roar, we're roaring because we're hurting, we're all hurting" -lionmaker studios

jesus why on earth would he go off and try to argue with collassul, thats suicide

This is a good video but when are we gonna get an update vid to pyrocynical's pregnancy?

Pyro: "That's pretty gay" Oh the irony! 🙄

*Huh,* Sounds like you.

What really gets me is his story keeps changing. Most of the time, when people keep changing details in their story they are lying. As they say, "If you tell the truth, you won't have to remember anything."

Lionmaker is a dumpster fire but I dont pity him, I feel bad for the girl he groomed

lionmaker’s defenses were like a robber trying to explain that he was just borrowing money

You know it's bad when Keemstar is a Hero in this Story

Lionmaker: "you don't understand I didn't ask for any explicit photos they're just screenshots from a Skype call" That only makes it worse

Man colossal seems so cool in those clips, like a legal prosecuter grilling a defendant

I do remember back when lionmaker disappeared for the first time, that Paige would make videos and upload to his channel. Usually was hide and seek, but he wouldn't be in them, probably because he was being investigated.

someone: "kill an innocent" lionmaker: "who am I to judge ?"

Man i completely forgot about Lionmaker, like an entire Vietnam flashback.

I don't like listening to him talk he just sounds so cocky

This lion dude has the most annoying voice I've ever heard

20:20 that whole timing just felt so perfect as he yelled to "put him in a cage"

Who am I to judge? Well he is right. I wouldn't want to be judged by him.

"it's funny, how I only got investigated because of Keemstar..." So did he want to get away with dating a 16 year old? Jesus Christ.

The fact that he still tried to continue to manipulate what few audience members he had left and couldn't ever just take responsibility and own up makes me despise him all the more. Honestly he needs to just take a long walk off a short pier.

Lionmaker is the personification of those presentations you've had a month to work on but wait until the last 30 minutes to work on

I wonder why no one looks through his Instagram comments and post. They're all sooo self loathing and looking for sympathy points. I like dramatically reading them with my friends.

"Hello members of the National Bolshevik Party" Well you got me there.

Hmm, twisting the truth? That sounds familiar

I actually watched this guy back in the day and really enjoyed his content. When I heard what happened I was rather young so I was confused as well as mad and pissed off. Ever since then I completely forgot about him but the memories stayed in my head, thank you Tom for bringing back the good memories aswell as making me confirming my belief of how messed up this was.

I'm extremely proud of how much your content has changed and matured, it gives off a very TRO vibe which is good, goodjob and keep on trucking Turkey man.

Turkey Tom has more avatar drawings, he is evolving

I just wanna say I fell asleep to ur videos (no they aren’t boring I was just tired) woke up to this video of this dude screaming at the top of his lungs. Good vibes

ironic

God the background music helped the atmosphere great video Tom

You got some good videos. Thanks Eagle Ernie

Fun Fact: The LionMaker drama was how I found out about KEEMSTAR and DramaAlert, and I was never the same since

Tom despite your young age for this documenting type of videos, you are KILLING at it. Keep up the excellent work my friend. Also, I can certainly see your comedy has further improved since you started, as well!

The whole LIonmaker thing was one of the few good thing Keemstar has dond

I really like this channel, there's not that many people who make long form, retrospective commentary like this. Good vid, ham herbert.

Litterally no one: Lionmaker:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The mental acrobatics lionmaker does is actually impressive.

Hey Tom, what do you think about making a video on analyzing a compilation of youtuber manipulation as a whole? Showing different types and levels of manipulation against either one individule, or their audience in general. That, I think, would be a very interesting analysis, and you got the resources to make it happen.

I love how Turkey Tom interacts woth his comment section. He is such a good person.

You know the screaming portion of this video made me feel much better about myself

all of toms videos have an insane amount of work put into them, amazing work super glad i found your channel

Tom what are your thoughts on the mini lad situation?

So happy you made this, watched nicks little video about it, didn't understand the situation too much. This explained the whole history for me and now I understand the whole thing. As always a great vid.

lionmaker when the screenshot is of a bloody arm: it's my arm it's still a picture of my arm lionmaker when the screenshot is of a minor: it's not a nude she sent it's a screenshot

Colossal’s Lionmaker interview is such an interesting watch. I have listened to it a few times and it’s just so incredible how he has twisted the truth. It’s like he’s actively trying to convince both the audience and himself that what he did was ok while refusing to speak the truth out loud. He also really focuses on the semantics. I believe he was incredibly emotionally manipulative to that girl and his other victims. That interview was a perfect display of how twisted he can be and how desperately he attempts to talk himself into believing his own lies. He sounds like he’s always reading a dramatic monologue just waiting for the applause for a convincing performance. He’s a real bad guy. Disgusting.

He should have never had access to the internet. He shouldn't have tried to make this come back only to make himself look worse.

Thought lion in the thumbnail was a bum ass mista gg

I feel like the commentary community is like a living guide line for how you need to behave on youtube and simply put if you cant fall into a semi organized lane then you'll be excommunicated and the community has gotten much better with its discernment of potential bad actors trying to ruin decent people's lively hood. Lion maker is bonkers and he wont be missed

Me, watching most of the video during the day: I like listening to Tom, should watch the video while trying to fall asleep Lionmaker during that screaming bit: Let me introduce myself

That's the stupidest "distinction" ever. Like, you know what a screenshot is? A goddamn picture.

“That’s my arm it was just a gyazo” Literally what.

How ironic

I was a huge fan of him 6 years ago I'm so disappointed. I remembered when it happened first time seeing a youtuber cancelled and I was very confused. I remember everything.

This is the only Lion not even Lion Trophy Hunters would hunt or whant as a Trophy in their home.

Lmaooo he was so mad that he got caught when he was explaining that he "didn't even have police looking at him" until the big bad bullies did the right thing

“She didn’t send me pictures; I just took pictures without her consent” 17:08

Did he really die of cancer ?

I love your content, I will always support you

"She never sent me pictures, it was a screenshot of a Skype call." Oh thanks for clearing that up, man. That's like 1000x worse.

I'm gonna admit, I first thought that was Mista GG in the thumbnail and wondered what he did to end up in a thumbnail with Keemstar. The video title enlightened me on the truth of my ignorance

amazing and cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey brother im new to the channel and just wanted to say awesome video you presented it in a respectful yet frank way and that says alot about your character and i look forward to future videos

Turkey Tom? More like ROASTED TURKEY!

When Lionmaker started screaming I lost it 😭

Something to take into account when asking if someone is being truthful in their response to allegations leveled against them is if they're calm, or not. If someone has a false accusation leveled against them, they will often react explosively in anger. I think Lionmaker knew this when "dismantling" Colossal's video, feigning fury, but his ego disallowing him to look vulnerable or unreasonable, causing his words to come off as blatantly fake.

It is great that this is coming back up considering Marcus keeps trying to get back on KZfaq even though it was against his sentencing.

TurkeyTom you’re really giving me the nostalgic 2016 vibes I’d been searching for since leafy left the internet , except more in depth and factually based more than leafys style of content (Old video to comment on, I’m just watching old turkey Tom videos in my recommended for memory lane trips, I don’t comment much but had to give my thanks

I've never seen a man go from insane to nearly normal to even more insane so quickly

Okay turkish mom. *Whoops, I meant "Turkey Tom" sorry bro.

Best music choice for the ending.

what i like most about Tom videos is making out what BGM he's using, he really likes 007Nightfire lol. Excellent taste

Lionmaker: She never sent me nudes Also him: *posts her nude on Twitter*

"The story attracted the ire of commentary channels like Pyrocynical." Ironic...