Amen Reverend.

I left the C of E and now attend an Orthodox Church

Good for you

Great

Love Brother Brett :)

@@simeonyves5940 He's one of the most clever men!

God bless you! 🙌

Good for you

I left the C of E and joined my local bible believing Holy Orthodox Church.

@@alanfromenglandcamino7149they also are on the road to “wokery”…

Baptist's and C of E don't partake in the Sacrament of Holy Communion - Orthdoox and Catholic only.

Get a hobby like knitting or walking.

I agree there is a lack of honesty about what the actual direction of travel is. Jesus always spoke clearly and directly in relation to sin and didn't mince his words.

yep, read my main comment on this page. totally pre determined.

@@Rosiedelaroux i see you are enlightened. we are discussing serious things about people's salvation and souls. if all you can do is offer bitchy comments, step away. also, you being a woman making a bitchy comment gives those who think women should not speak an excuse. get your heart right with Jesus.

@@Rosiedelaroux spaghetti dinners?

The pedants shall inherit the earth

@@mrbaker7443 - But people who speak English won't it seems.

Well spotted

The invisible iron curtain is going up

Because their aim is to change the CofE out of all recognition and they're winning. Time for Orthodoxy

@@marcokiteindeed it is about making everyone else in their image.

That para 4.1 is nothing but a departure from solid Scripture. Paul wrote in his Epistles regarding savage wolves in sheep's clothing destroying the Flock with false teaching and doctrine, tickling itching ears and following their own lusts, leading people straight into sin - rebellion - against G,-d the Father's plain word. Yes, those caught up in their sin can be freed from it, through prayer and repentance, because that was something Christ died for. In Romans, Paul indicates that being under Grace frees us to anything we want, but not everything is beneficial for us, and this LLF is and imposition on canonical belief in a velvet glove. I do not give a damn about whatever bishop, arch or whomever, says of their own opinion if it doesn't reflect the Full Counsel of G-d the Father, not a 'penumbra' or loose interpretation because of false compassion and love, because G-d's love comes with justice, and that justice is clearly laid out in the 10 Commandments. You will, of course say, they don't apply to Christians, but Jesus said He came to fulfil them, *not abolish them!* They apply to those who step out of His Grace, and Paul says that Grace does not give us licence to sin. However, he reserves the worst chastisement, let's say, to the teachers of the Word who misteach deliberately and refuse to be reproved. The Bible is touchstone here. And don't drag out the old "so you're saying that homosexuals have to be dragged out and stoned to death" canard here - Jesus died and rose again to redeem them from that, as I said 'fulfil', that includes the due penalty demanded by the Law, but G-d the Father is not above letting them go full on in their sin because they will get the due chastisement in their bodies, especially men (male protein stays in another man's body for 7 years and adversely affects immune systems, apparently - fact check *that,* if you want). The C of E is going down folks. Those of you who wish to stay, you'd better stand up and fight this, diocese by diocese, parish by parish, PCC by PCC, vicar by viar, rector by rector - but underpinned by some *fervent prayer* first! Or leave your church if they accept LFF and find a better, more orthodox Bible-teaching church.

When the first 'women priest' was 'ordained' it was the end, institutionally speaking.

@@marcokite Agreed. Although it was seen as a 'secondary' issue, it was a clear strike against biblical authority.

It, is different things to different people.

I think the green belt festival has been captured by the progressives. Bible believing Christian’s would not thrive there.

I was surrounded and threatened with violence at Greenbelt 2000 for being same sex attracted and asking why a Christian festival was teaching us that sleeping around, getting drunk and taking illegal drugs was OK because Jesus said something else. The entire room erupted with other gays screaming and shouting at me, surrounding me and threatening me with violence. People came up to me for the following two days and said they wished they had stood up for me but they were "too scared" as most of them said to me. Oh yes, people were scared at a "Christian" festival. Other years, Greenbelt has had lgbt "Christian" organisations such as Courage who used to be Biblical but went to Greenbelt and taught that wives of bisexual men need to accept and bless their husbands having affairs with men. A Biblical LGBT organisation told me their phone doesn't stop ringing the week after Greenbelt, especially the Monday. I was messed up for a couple of days following my one experience at Greenbelt. I would never recommend that place to anyone. Paul Northup was acting festival organiser at the time and his emails to me said he agreed with the threats of violence etc i faced because I am "evangelical". No, I am not evangelical but even if i was, he was condoning threats of violence at his festival. He has since written for pacifist organisations and has refused any of my messages and public statements about him condoning violence against me.

@@catherinehume9193 Oh my goodness that sounds terrible. It is a shame as I loved going as a child and as a teenager and would have loved to take my children but not as it is, it seems very political.

There is *No such thing* as a "Christian Festival" ! Revelry is a SIN and is a Forbidden work of the Flesh that is utterly Condemned in Galatians Chapter 5!

The Torah explaines it on differing levels of awareness and understanding. The phonetic script is a basic description of what should be done. The symbolism of each letter of each word gives a deeper level but you must be able to reliquish modern evangelical perception to get to grips with Hebrew bible symbolism. To simplify. Eve symbolizes the higher awarness of Adam and Adam is general awareness of the mind created to see God. Male and female. Bare with me. God talked to Adam and showed him the animals. Adam simply names them as a child would. Hence God upgrades the mind by adding to it. As you talk to yourself in your mind, God created Eve for the same purpose. This helps the created mind develop at a faster rate. Unfortunately this also created the awareness of self. Thought energy is symbolically male. Its the doing or working part of the mind. The female is knowledge. Energy allows thought to take place. In creation God seperates energy from knowledge. Energy is flowed into the void to form a non thinking framework. When God breaths life into the framework He also adds knowledge very slowly so that Adam can assimilate the knowledge and remember it. Adam will have to work with the sweat of his brow to overcome the fall. Good and evil represents Godly thought and evil represents self only thought. The self desires power of thought to rule itself. Marriage therefore is the joining of energy and knowledge to think. In the begining this was to allow thought about God. After the fall it is about thinking of self. If either party hoard power or information, life stops. The power sllows a flow of energy so that thought can be shared. It is like your mind. Starve the flow of life to part of the mind and your thought is altered or decieved. God desires the collective mind to think with God. The deciever desires you energize his collective thought. So same sex marriage is a form of self love that encapsulates itself and shuts out others. The seperation from God did the same. The Earth was dependent on itself without Gods direct thought. Self. The flow of energy and thought remained on Earth. Hence the knowledge of birth and death. What is born here, stays here but the soul lives on. Thats too much for here. For Isreal to overcome this world it had to stand together with God. When knowledge of God was extended outwardly like a growing collective mind in the camp of Isreal, it was the children. They prospered by developing in size and awareness of God. There thought was connected to God via the Tabernacle and Ark of the covenant. If homosexuality had been allowed it would have disrupted the development of Isreal knowledge and power to do God's purpose. As you can imagine, this does go deeper. I hope you did not mind me writing this too you. God be with you and the world.

What God thinks about these issues seems to be last thing on the minds of the C of E hierarchy!

You didn't mention Holy Tradition which is the EQUAL of the Bible, the Bible is a PART of Tradition.

Ethics requires we don't start with reason but truth. We get our principles from the Word of God not the wisdom of men.

​@@kenbeach5021 Yep

Danny boy

@@sillypuppy5940 Do please read the Bible. It tells the truth about everything because God is the ultimate truth. I am afraid that all this nonsense is yet another case of an organisation deciding that it must perpetuate itself at all costs.

Better off looking to the Orthodox patriarchs for authority.

Um, what is "the christianity of the bible"? In a nutshell:- Jesus wasn't a Christian, and neither were the Apostles, they were Messianic Jews preaching Messiah, translated to Christus in Greek, then Christ in Latin, of which we are stuck with. They were 'Followers of The Way" until some Roman Emperor, Diocletian I think, used the term 'Christian' as term of insult, meaning "Little Christs". And here we are. Then Constantine, and the Council of Nicea, disavowed the Jews as 'Christ killers', and developed their own rituals, times and seasons, and punishments for anyone having anything to do with the Jews and, again, here we are. So, define your terms.

@@chrismaguire3667 read church history and read the didache

@@chrismaguire3667Good history lesson but Jesus himself told us not to fornicate…. Whether straight or homosexual, and as the biblical definition of marriage is one man and one woman, then draw the obvious conclusion….

@@chrismaguire3667 we worship god through Jesus, so it’s called judeo Christianity

It's not just the Bible, the Bible is only a PART of Holy Tradition

Yes, the Holy Orthodox Church, the Roman Catholics did too.

@@jovanblom7742 What would be the point in staying in a church that had lost the gospel and obscured it with unbiblical traditions?

the celtic church was the original church here in the uk. The church in judea was the original church!!!!

​​@@marcokite2015 pew research petitioned rcc members and orthodox members. 70%of catholics said homosexuality should be accepted, it was 63% for orthodox believers.