What do you mean by woke. Liberal thinking? Holding you ,and all those in moral turmoil

@@dominicmay6015 Yes, liberal thinking is stuffing up society's children in schools!

@@dominicmay6015 nothing liberal in woke culture, its authoritarian at the core.

@@dominicmay6015 When conservatives say "woke" about their adverseries, they're basically saying: I sure hope these minorities don't do to us what we've done to them! Probably not unfounded. lol

Does that mean you're going to throw out the head of your church that former admitted adulterer?

@@Test_Card_Tom and women priests ?

Amen. We pray for those churches who have left the apostate body of the CoE and wish to return to teaching and authority of God's Word, the scriptures

Why can't you bless my marriage to my husband. We love each other as genuinely as any other love. Don't we?

Conferring a Sacrament (Marriage, Ordination, Baptisms, Confirmations , etc.) upon wrong (intrinsically disordered) & UNCIVIL (Ps 94:20 : "Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law ?" ) "unions" ?

@@John-se3pu Thanks for you sharing your Christian Love and Charity with me.

Timothy 1:9-11 the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and *homosexuals* and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted. Careful which law you refer to. Apostoles who wrote the Bible were coordinated by God, but nobody asked God anything when the human rights were made and new rights were added to them. Look carefully into the Bible. No section in it mentions clearly the tolerance to homosexuality as a good thing. As much as we should love the sinner, we should never love the sin for the sin is not welcome in God's Church.

Yes God will supply the needs or the means to get them

The gospel call was to preach the good news of Christ as our saviour- it wasn’t a call to erect buildings - bravo - it’s a pity the Sydney diocese didn’t have such conviction- they stayed in the system to retain the property

Honestly salvation is worth a heavy price. I am sorry you and yours had to pay for it. I pray that you have salvation and may the Lord bless and keep you.

🙏 AMEN 🙏 My Dear Canadian Christian Brothers & Sisters You Are So Spot On & Assured That Your Sacrifice Was Not In Vain & You Are Now Enjoying The New Blessings Of GOD. For GOD Desires Our Obedience Rather Than Sacrifice. 1 Samuel 15 v 22. Hosea 6 v 6. And The Glory of The New Temple Is Greater Than The Old Temple, Says THE LORD OF HOSTS. Haggai 2 v 9. GOD HONOURS OBEDIENCE TO HIMSELF AMEN.

Repent, Resign or Replace

You are bold and God sees your stand. Following from Suisse.

Moving from apostacy. A move towards God. Repence, Prayer, fasting . Continue to spread the word. So we can pray for you.but normal if you know the Word. Dont be intimidated. Think og Joshusa

A woman isn't even a bishop. It's a joke having a bunch of men pretend that a woman is their leader. What's next? Put a baby up there and say "he's our leader"? For goodness' sake what a joke.

No women preachers would be a start. Amen

The evangelicals are a dangerous force at present that could cause a schism by their dogmatic application of a particular interpretation of scripture. No one knows what Paul meant in his letters and the general view is the hard line one that this is sin. Paul may have seen the sin as being the abuse of power that went alongside homosexual sex or temple prostitution both of which were common at the time. Times have changed as has the nature of same sex relationships. Hard line interpretation has been put before pastoral need as well as recognising that people who are gay are not outside the love of God. This is something that we cannot look to Jesus for an answer. The church upholds his teaching on marriage but Jesus is silent on anything to do with same sex relations as it was not an issue in the culture which he lived. The evangelicals have also hijacked the house of laity to ensure that this measure gets rejected by General Synod and we are potentially seeing a war of different traditions. They want all other Anglicans that are not in the evangelical camp to basically disappear so they can be the Church of England. We have been hear before with the ordination of women and the five guiding principles that we as ordinands have to sign up for have still not fully resolved the issue. This is something that is going to be a hot potato for a number of years and the current situation in the house of laity has been a wake up call for the rest of the church. Lets hope that the next synod is more balanced that represents the broad churchmanship that makes up the church.

What Scripture? Are you reading Jesus message? Or are you failing to read God's message and interpreting in time and place? What was relevant in 1st Century Palestine has no life relevance to 21C Western Europe and failure to adjust just compounds society's rejection of Christianity. Full cycle! No wonder that the promised 'New Heaven and New Earth' are as far away now as they were then!

Bravo 👊🏼 well said

I don't see what braveness has to do with it? These evil churches aren't rounding up apostates and burning them at the stake.

@@Scripture-Man it takes some moral courage to be out of step with wicked times.

10 leaders... not necessarily all men !?

Mathew 5 v13, "“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot." It's simply not possible to redeem a denomination ruled by false teachers and servants of the world. Unity as independent churches is the only way forward and no I don't include Rome in that however vehement they have historically fought for the upholding Christian morality in the past. They were corrupted centuries before the CofE were. That's why the reformation was required!

Does your church marry a murderer who has served their sentence? Or will your church marry a person who has already had sexual relations with their partner or previous partners?

@@bigd5090 NaCl is a very stable molecule

CoE has bowed to satan long ago.

What are..Christian moral norms...When l read the bible,l find a god who can be staggeringly cruel,jealous and violent...a god who condones things that we quite rightly consider to be evil..slavery and genocide for example..So where do you get your moral norms..?

@@michaelabbott9080 you need to study more!

@@marklambert5232 That is a non reply..Please be specific about what l should study...

@@marklambert5232 Do you,for example believe in original sin..?..I have an issue with being considered guilty of a crime l did not commit..then being required to repent for it and ask forgivenes...How does that possibly make sense..?.Do you believe in moral absolutes..?If so,how do explain god changing his mind on moral issues..and issues regarding the law..Is it still a sin to eat shellfish or to wear clothes of different fabrics..?

I keep hearing the word "brave". I don't understand what braveness has to do with it? We're only talking about Biblical doctrine here. No one's life is under threat is it? The Bible says sodomy is wrong, so Christians stand up and say sodomy is wrong. It's not difficult.

@@Scripture-Man Quit cherry picking. The sins of sodom were adultery, pridefulness, and uncharitableness. Gay people may or may not do those things. There's good and bad people in every group. Learn to know the differences.

Presumably in standing firm on their idea of 'biblical truth' they will also expel the many heterosexual couples already in their congregations who are divorced and then later remarried. The Bible is very clear that remarriage post divorce is a sin.

Wonderful. God bless you abundantly.

Lollygaggins6316 absolutely believe in God's teachings only.🙏💯🇬🇧

"Many are called, but few are chosen". -- J.C.

@@peterkilbridge6523 Indeed, the Church of England is a clear depiction of the Parable of the Sower - the seed which feel amongst the thorns, and the thorns choked the seeds and they died.

@@Scripture-Man The destruction of the monasteries was the end of true spirituality in England. As an anglophile, it truly pains me to say this. Maybe Irish missionaries will re-convert the English to Christianity? Nah...just kidding.

Jodevlin6636 absolutely agree.staying within god's teachings is very important and never stray away from our heavenly fathers teachings.🙏💯🇬🇧

as another former Anglican, now Catholic I agree

Come to the true Church of Christ! Holy Orthodoxy!

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@@Raverraver9999 Roman Catholic Church, Anglican Churches, Protestant Churches, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist, Mormons, Adventists, etc....ALL HERETICS AND SCHISMATICS. SECTARIAN GROUPS.

​@Carl Pyper We've had plenty of bad popes. But the Church has 2000 yr of Magisterium which bad pope's can't touch. The gates of hell won't prevail against it.

What commandments did he mean joseph?

Condemnation? See, this statement reflects a wider problem.

Very few Christians keep his commandments

Those requiring change are not those preaching the inspired word of GOD but the sinners. Evidently the sinners are winning the war. The Church of England has become Faithless and Worthless.

❤we must stand up for truth it's costing the lives of many true christian around the world

Homophobe?Was that term invented by a Jew?

@@012131boxer No its from Greek!

@@012131boxer Index of Attitudes toward Homosexuals was positively correlated with results from the Sexual Attitude Scale, the Disgust Emotion Scale and the Padua Inventory. Subjects who showed homophobic tendencies on the IAH also displayed conservative sexual attitudes, elevated levels of disgust and dread of contamination. Homophobia is a misnomer as they've discovered it's more the "ick-factor" that drives their bias. It's more akin to racisim than a psychological disorder (sociological than psychological)

Thanks, though I was raised Methodist my family left that church when I was 12 years old, and I didn't know this was happening. It's already happened in the US Episcopal Church.

As far as I'm concerned the split is good. Do you want this bunch of sinister, worldly, unholy men in your church? The kind of individuals who are plugged in to the media and think like the world. Get them away from the body of Jesus! 2 Cor 6 "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? … Therefore Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you."

Please see the VATICANCATHOLIC youtube channel. God wants you to become Catholic. The Catholic Church is the true Church. Warning: the Vatican II sect led by Antipope Francis is not the Catholic Church. It is the end times counterchurch.

GAFCON and The Global South stand with you, all the way to the catacombs, until the end.

@@janetsmiley6778 Hopefully we can inter both GAFCon and The Global South in the catacombs when you finally drag them there too - "oh come quickly, oh come quickly ..." (in the words of Wesley's well-known hymn 'Lo he comes with clouds descending')

Did the bishops agree to same sex marriages ?? Cool your jets Dave !!

But its ok to hate gay people Your views are unchristian Judge not ir you will be judgev

‘Different parts of the Body of Christ’? There is only 1 church given by Christ, built upon Peter!

"LIBERALS " that is > Lying Idiots & Bastards Enacting Rowdyism and Lingering sadism.

Wonderful AV

How exactly are they unbelievers, or idolators? Wait let's not go down that rabbit hole.

Martin Luther was a heretic.

Hi Woke 2 woke, Those who are born again in Christ, maybe should never have gone to any denomination to begin with. Let alone the Anglican Church, even if they are for or against what's going on in the C of E, or the others! The Anglican church ( like the Roman church, I was brought up in) is not built on the foundations of the Apostles and Prophets, but is a mixture of paganism, man made traditions, equal to the bible ( they say?) with a hierarchy that springs from the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, that Jesus hates. There is no clergy or laity in the new testament, but the priesthood of all believers, from the noblest to the based. Plus the history of this church was evil and oppressive! The author of this video should not speak out the odds against, until he leaves the clerical system, and shows Christianity for what it is. Pure sin!!

Thanks for the👍 up Woke 2 woke, if that was you, or anyone else? Don't mistake me ( I should of said it preciously?) there isn't anything wrong with traditions in themselves, as thee bible doesn't say this, ways of doing things and such, its only wrong when the above contradicts the bible, which in turn becomes "law" and seen as "not actually following god. If one doesn't?" When it come to "Christianity" "Messianic Judaism" and the such, although God never initiated them, he can and still works through them, as many saints still caught up in the above, as I once was, are still "nonplussed" and " non the wiser" ( as I was) but it's only after having a true revelation concerning the falsehood, then there is no excuse! One has to leave! Revelation 18 ( come out of her my people!). It can hard though! When one is used to doing things over and over again! But Church hierarchies are bad, that is one thing I found liberating! they're not scriptural, as Jesus stated in Matthew 23, when he stated calling non your master, one the root words of master in the Greek is the verb "to lead" as well as "to command" So no there were no leaders in the new testament, only elders who were comforters! Now the the new testament is a completed book along with the bible, and now that the apostles are gone, the calling and appointments for elders is now closed.

START! The C of E has been splitting for decades!

Well what has changed, they split from Rome. What difference will another split make.

Failure to keep god's word will let Satan in! The Lord is VERY STRICT on the Law which he came to fulfil. The House of Bishops is THUS IN THE WRONG. There will be no limit to their Apostacy!

Please contact your FCE diocese, and encourage others to do the same. This will help the FCE to plan possible responses to people's needs. Blessings.

@@eddie30991 Thanks

Take heart. Holy Cross Cathedral was started in a middle school cafeteria. That was in 2004, if memory serves Those early years were the most exciting and inspiring of my life. Start with a bible study in a home if need be. May God be with you.

Hey mark! I am in stoke too and I attend a church of E in Newcastle . Our vicar is not for the same sex blessings and we are just waiting for the next updates so the church can be clear what direction we will go ! I believe the congregation I am part of won’t be against Gods word

@@victortarroni That's good to know Victor, peace be with you.

Perhaps other dioceses with a strong evangelical presence will follow your lead: I pray they will- the resistance needs to grow and shake the bishops into realising what they have done.

What to love your neighbours?

@@TheGagamonster21 They have goofy ideas about love.

It is NOT so much as an "arrangement" that is sought by the Evangelicals, as OBEDIENCE to the Lord's teaching.

As I remember there was an evangelical parish of the C of E near Harrow joined Forward in Faith

I love the Orthodox.

I got Christmated last month, officially left the CoFE and received into the Orthodox Church.

Once World renowned French literary man Victor Yugo said: England has two books.Shakespeare and The Bible. England made Shakespeare.But the Bible made England.

*God not god - you should know better

@@madmurdock100 thank you for pointing out I didn’t notice, i have corrected! God bless you

Don't be a luddite. The bible shouldn't be used as a vehicle to oppress.

Abp. Beach was my parish priest. I am a founding member of Holy Cross Cathedral. Interestingly enough, his parish when we were in the Episcopal Church was St. Albans.

I visit a lot of churches. Whatever fits

Usually, the diocese (at least in England).

As part of an evangelical Anglican Church, if we all have leave our buildings, the CofE is going to have many churches on its hands that will no longer be viable and have to close. Our congregation has put a lot of 12:45 money into our premises while paying our dues to the diocese

@@lukemarshall1701 Most of the older buildings were pretty much stolen from the Catholics..

Wetherspoons?

@@TheGagamonster21 Not yet.

LGBTQ people are capable of being faithful Christians who obey God’s laws of sexual morality.

Hi, There is no clergy or laity system in the new testament, only the priesthood of all believers in Christ. There can't be two priesthoods! There were elders in the new testament, who were simultaneously pastors and bishops, who were aged men and women, only comforters to those new in the faith, not the mature who take leadership from Jesus Christ, no other! If anything everyone, even the author if this video, needs to repent of being involved in this church, as it is not built on the foundations of the Apostles and Prophets.

Hi Mark, Yes that's right, but women and men who are vicars is not biblical, as the position/office of "vicar" is Roman/Babylonian, clerical system, which it turn means "substitute/in place of" that meaning on place of Christ, which is Antichrist! Bishops ( men or women is also not biblical, as the new testament speaks of elders ( men and women) who were pastors and bishops simultaneously, and were senior citizens. The elders who had the function of bishop was similar to that of a deacon, in that the function was to do with material needs, not ruling over dioceses, which is tantamount to control, which the bible condemns! There was no one teaching of the scriptures over the congregation, as the word is from the verb " To dialogue " meaning all participated.. As the new testament is now completed with death of the apostles, there is no more appointing of leaders, any leaders for that matter, as the apostles were the only ones who had the authority to appointed the above, no one else! Ephesians 4:11 is now redundant to the office / functions prescribed, as the verse contains also "apostles" who's office is now closed. The job of the functions prescribed in the above verse,apart from being an apostle, prophets and pastor/elder bishop, is now for the priesthood of all believers.

Also those who are born again, saved in Christ( male and female) constitute the Royal Priesthood, found in the epistle of Peter, and elsewhere. This means that we both teach and preach to one another. The misapplied, misinterpreted chapter and verse found in 1Timothy:12 has nothing to do with the prohibition of women teaching from scripture, but is speaking of a wife causing trouble, by domineering her husband, and teaching false doctrines about Adam + Eve. This verse in singular in the Greek, while the rest of the chapter is plural concerning misbehavior of people within that congregation.

Amen!

Thanks my friend! 🙏

Hardly anybody in England could read the Bible until later in the 16th century, so were dependent on priests interpreting it for them. Man has always "interpreted" the Bible to suit his particular prejudices. Shakespeare tells it as it is, however; "Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. " Although a Catholic sympathiser, I think deep down he knew there was no afterlife.

@@martinkimber8033 Although a Catholic sympathiser, I think shakespeare's quate about God:Let never day nor night unhallowed pass, but still remember what the Lord hath done (William Shakespeare).

@@shaileshmathews4086 It is what the useless King is saying to a man pretending to be blind (I played that man, Simpcox, in a play reading last year in Stratford). It does not mean Shakespeare believes it, it is the kind of thing a weak and foolish King would say. So you could interpret this as "don`t be taken in by people, think for yourself, seek evidence"

@@martinkimber8033 Please Avoid double standards. As you said, if the quotes in his drama is the proof that Shakespeare did not believe in the afterlife , are those quotes in his drama enough to prove that Shakespeare believed in God?So Avoid double standards.Any way, what Shakespeare had believed was never an issue in England.But the above Comment by Victor Hugo is certainly a proof that at a certain point in history, For more than four centuries, as a nation, how did the Bible shap England socially, culturally and politically!! Think for yourself. Seek evidence.

@@shaileshmathews4086 you make my point for me. If "The Bible" shaped anything, once it was translated into English, it allowed people to set up countless interpretations of it, invent new styles of worship, lead to new churches, sects, one lot fighting the other lot, carnage, mayhem and an occasional bit of brotherly love thrown in (but not same sex!) Shakespeare`s work is as much a victim of selected quotation as is the Bible, really proving they are both man made!

It's an interesting question and one which I suspect will be explored in the courts in the months to come. If it's allowed, then there's nothing to restrict conservative (or indeed liberal) parishes from doing the same, and that would lead to much bigger problems for the CofE than they are currently seeing in London.

With Anne Boleyn as Salome?

Evangelicals will normally be "low church" there are many reasons for this, theologically and culturally. I love high church BCP liturgy...for cultural and aesthetic reason. But the Apostles in the NT give alot of flexibility on how public worship is conducted.

You do realise that the CoE would get to keep all the schools and church buildings, right?

These Bishops are already angry and absolutely hardened in their heretical positions. They are presiding over the death spiral of the CofE. The good news is that they do not represent the vast majority of Anglicans worldwide. They will lose. Deus lo vult.

The problem of many is you worship your churches instead of God. It's that simple. You feel without your churches you don't worship God. This then indoctrinates members to worship the Church as an entity instead of God.

It does not matter. The CofE has rejected God and spit in the eyes of Christ. They need to be removed and stripped of their Cossack.

They already knew this would happen ofcourse they did how could they not when ordinary people could see it comming remember we wrestle not against flesh and blood and I believe there is a battle going on with this which we cannot see

@@J_a_s_o_n "The problem of many is you worship your churches instead of God ....." So to get back to real Christianity and proper worship, they should shut down all the churches. now that's clever line of attack.

What makes you think that CoE leadership reads/follows/is the least bit concerned with what the New Testament (or the Old Testament, for that matter) says?

@@scottevans2685 Good point 🙏

@@eswn1816 Hi ESWN, I don't know if you're referring to 1 Timothy 2:12, in your belief about female bishops, Before I go on, this verse does not say that a woman cannot teach a man, as this is in the singular, while the previous verses in this chapter are in the plural ( unsound behaviors). The woman in question was a wife who was domineering her husband, a behaviour condemned in the bible, also she was spouting of a false doctrine concerning Adam + Eve. As for women being bishops? Yes, as they were elders and pastors simultaneously. Also because we are a kingdom of priests ( male and female). Yes there are scriptures pertaining to qualifications of elders being married " with one wife" and so on. But we mustn't forget "Precsilla and Aquila who both " taught" Apollos in the Book of Acts ( I don't have to mention chapters a verses, as they were put in way later in the centuries.. ..helpful though!) Paul as alluded to other female believers as his "Coworkers"" and women in his list @ end of Romans! What a lot people don't realise is, that a role of a bishop, as well as deacons, and elders, being pastors was to oversee the material needs ( not spiritual) of the body ( food, essentials) not having authority over a dioceses. Also as priests we teach and preach to one another as the Greek word is "To Dialogue." When preaching to unbelievers, " monologue" is in use, ( although Paul + the other apostles allowed dialogue).

@@eswn1816 So yeah, In the new testament, women were bishops, as were men, called out by the apostles from Christians who were senior citizens, for their maturity in faith and knowledge of the scriptures. They were elders simultaneously with being pastors as well as bishops.

@@decathlonevent Lots of "J & R" (justification and rationalization) Still no female Bishops in the NT or early church history. All can teach, preach, prophesize, heal, cast out demons, etc... However, the leadership guiding the overall church was/is a male eldership and Bishops (overseer). The one in the C of E shows why.

The problem is that it is neither relevant or popular in The UK or globally.

"The church by all means must show love to sinners, but never affirm them in their sins." Exactly, and this is where most denominations of the Christian Church, not just the CoE, have failed. Like the World, too many Christians have conflated "nice" with "loving" when they are NOT the same thing at all. Accommodating a sinner in their sins is about the most UNloving and not nice thing any Christian could do. A Christian is effectively dispatching a sinner to Hell through such behavior.

@@scottevans2685 Why do you assume that loving someone of the same gender is a sin?

We need evangelicals and liberals and conservatives in our church. I’m only a US Episcopalian. But. Please. Please. Don’t leave. We need your understanding in our church. Please don’t go. I want to worship in a pew beside you. I don’t care about things that could divide us.

The spilt has started

You mean the Jesuits.

Just to point out in fairness, this trend hasn't been unique to the CoE. However, one can make the case that the CoE was its earliest trendsetter.