The original recording for this whole article was FAR larger than this, and I may have gone a bit over the top on the cutting of the various paragraphs and responses in my attempt to keep a certain pace to the video. The point of this video is to look at framing techniques, and how just changing 1 single phrase in an article to something that means the same thing, but has different wording can entirely change the meaning of an article. I expect we will see MUCH more of these different framing techniques as we progress closer to release. Thanks for watching :)

To prove your point: I'm Argentinian, nothing to do with American or British politics, and even I rally to the banner of lotr against this disrespectful adaptation.

The people behind the show are politically motivated , they should be opposed and exposed , keep up the good work

I respect the fact that you haven't even updated the dislike count

"It's not about making a good product or profit, it's about preaching a message" Probably the only reason this cycle is still going instead of.. you know, companies noticing the pattern that catering to an loud minority audience is not as profitable as catering to the IP's already present fans

It's not lies when everyone knows these are lies. It's gaslighting.

They've done it to Star Trek, Star Wars and now LOTR. Nothing is sacred to these cultural vandals, you would of thought they would create new IP's so they could tell the stories they wanted to with the characters they wanted. No one would have a problem with that but it would require actual talent and imagination hence why they didn't do it.

Just because it was never written that Hobbits flew a rocket ship into space doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The most important aspect of adapting any intellectual property for another medium is respecting its origins, lore and the intentions of its creator. No amount of dishonest and disingenuous hyperbole and rhetoric will ever change that.

"As long as the core is intact, then it's still the thing" Well by that logic, if the core of Super Mario games was "guy saves princess from big bad monster guy", then you could technically call the Legend of Zelda series as Mario but with a different title

LoTR, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion, the Unfinished Tales… they make up the ultimate canon. It’s a single, self-contained, fully-realised entity. In this, it’s pretty unique and has influenced fantasy even more than classics such as The King of Elfland’s Daughter or The Sword in the Stone/The Once and Future King. It’s the last bastion against the petty-minded envy of those suffering histrionic personality disorder (I’m being polite) who are trying to pwn everything and push The Message. Sauron wanted to bring the whole world into Mordor, an ugly place without hopes or dreams. I’m sure he would be proud of these self-proclaimed captains.

Hey Man, great point as always. People were laughting at us (Poles) when Netflix butchered The Witcher and we got mad and talked about it. We were called ists etc. It's good to see that Amazon is getting so much backslash after trying to profanate something that is not mainly defended in one country, but probably the biggest Fantasy piece of art of all times. As a fan of Tolkien, my heart is just cannot be happier that this time, not only local fans unites against the evil!

They can only argue in bad faith because without the lie they have no power.

Shelob identifies as They/Themlob now.

You know what’s funny about all this: the people in Hollywood who are defending this dumpster pile of a series are failing at the simplest marketing strategy that even those in an ordinary retail job knows which is don’t argue with the customer and don’t get defensive because that just causes the conflict to escalate

I have read the Silmarillion, The Children of Hurin, Beren and Luthien, The Fall of Gondor, and am currently reading the Unfinished Tales. It is mentioned several times the color of the elves. Pale and white. Even the Easterlings called the elves white fiends. Some mortal men and women were called white fiends by them as well. And it's described how the Easterlings had dark skin and were a different race of men, while the other men were differing shades of Caucasian. Then I've been thinking a lot about cultures and diversity. I am not very good with my words, so I will try to explain it as best as I can. There are so many cultures out there that you can pick one and adapt it and there's your diversity. Find a story from Africa. Find a story from Brazil. But taking someone's culture and changing it to fit your agenda is extremely disrespectful and rude, and it can be racist. Like people have mentioned, taking the story of the Black Panther and making him and everyone else white. Or taking a story from Japan and changing all the characters to Africans. People claim they're being diverse by adding in nonwhite characters, but they're actually being disrespectful by instead of finding a culture and story and adapting it, they're destroying someone else's culture. There's a word I'm looking for, but I cannot think of what it is. I hope I explained this very well and did not come across offensive in any way.

“They don’t care about the truth anymore” This video is a textbook example on dissecting a bad faith and poorly argued pseudo intellectual argument. Advice to live by; stay on topic and utterly reject re-framing.

"Shall we make Sauron a vending machine?" I lost it at that point. Though I wouldn't mind seeing that AU relegated to some wacky, non-canon tale. The Vending Machine of the Rings.

What makes no sense is that these ordinary scriptwriters believe that their ideas should supersede those of a universally acknowledged literary genius. Does anyone at Amazon actually read the books that Amazon sells? They certainly haven't read Tolkien.

"Yifei Cheng PO '24 is from Nanjing, China." So glad a non-English person is here to Hansplain away all our concerns over the colonisation of a classic English fantasy story.

Discovered you through your recent Amazon LOTR Rings of Power backlash content, and this video made me subscribe. Tolkien would be proud of you, I'm sure of it. I love your eloquence and your passion for Tolkien and his work. They may try to destroy his work, but we won't ever let them. 🙏

Logic is such a pesky thing. Redefining words does not win an argument. Keep dropping the hammer on these so called "scholars".

If they think no one should care about Tolkien's opinion on his own creative work, then why are they surprised that they are returning the favor by not caring about theirs? It's very hypocritical.

If they love their new character so much & wanting themselves in whatever colour they want, they just have to make their own story. Maybe people will like it more

Another cracking video Disparu! Genius mate!

The Rings Of Snoresville is doomed for failure from the very start

I like your take on this. It's accurate and I don't feel like you are injecting your own world view but rather just a great critical assessment. Well done chap!

"The people who are actually fans wanted LOTR" So freaking true! Keep up the good work, Disparu!!

Stefan Molyneaux explored the nature of Sauron's ring and made a good case that it embodied the power of sophistry. The article you reviewed is an attempt to channel Sauron's seductive might, and like Sauron it failed. Your presentation was an echo of all that was good in Numenor.

Your quickly becoming my favorite KZfaqr! Awesome work again great breakdown about the framing and the use of language by them to attack or frame Tolkien fans in a bad light for wanting lore respected. Canon matters :)

Make T-shirts: "Don't Ignore The Lore". Should sell well.

Thank you for doing this. I respect what you said and whole handedly agree. If a story is written by someone, we need to respect the ideals those who wrote it wanted. You have gained a new follower from me as I appreciate this.

Tauriel was non-canonical as well…and see how that turned out.

I interpreted it as this: The only thing that is important is the theme, the fantasy aesthetics and good against evil with Sauron as evil personified, and the rest can be replaced to fit whatever narrative desired. The stories and background that Tolkien spent all his life fleshing out is totally meaningless. It comes from people who believe that you put your own meaning into stuff, reflecting your identity in the current state of the world.

Why do I get the feeling that the person that wrote this article has a degree in gender studies.

If the person who wrote the article had true intelligence they would have seen through their own incompetence and written about something they actually understood.

Watched the newest videos first, but man, you really nailed it with this one. Your closing statement was just the final nail to the coffin. Subscribed.

I am SO glad I found this channel. Excellent!

One of my favorite, least favorite, bits of spin being regurgitated by the MSM is that Jeff Bezos is a huge Tolkien fan, but we know from the word about the big meeting at Amazon that launched them in this direction that he was not asking for Lord of the Rings but for his Game of Thrones. They simply put up the money for licensing to distinguish themselves from the pack.

I'm so glad I found this channel.

Really good deconstruction, mate. Keep up the good work!

i love man!!! you almost express the amount of anger we feel:)

Personally, I think that the fans have perfectly understood the point that amazon are making.... theme > story - which is the wrong way around, hence the backlash.

It's getting worse everyday. I can't deal with this. My brain is just not getting it. Why do we need to rewrite a very beloved lore and world just to make some angry people on Twitter happy? I really don't get it. I'm just sad and confused.

Well said, very well done, seriously excellent work.

When you make a product for the public (as opposed to self-use) and they unanimously say that you made a mistake... then they are right. After all they are the audience.

From here on out, every time I hear the word “push the message” I’ll instinctively disparage and discourage that group of people and nominate the film “complete garbage.”

One of my favorite shows, The Last Kingdom, an adaptation of Bernard Cornwell’s the Northmen series, appears to have fallen to this same woke phenomenon that is sweeping through entertainment. After 4 glorious seasons of early Dane sacked England, where all was as it should be, things have changed. My early British History professor thought so much of Mr Cornwell and his penchant for research, that he let me use one of Cornwell’s works as a secondary source on my term paper. Cornwell wrote historical fiction. In which all the events and such happened in the novels, with fictional characters inserted in and around the actual historical figures and events. Now, tell me if I’m wrong, but did they have sign language in 800 AD? Because now the writers of the show have realized that disabled people are the next great crusade. So now I get to read subtitles rather than listen to someone speak. Just as they did in externals. In addition, they’ve added a black priest. In 800 AD. How exactly did that come about? Why not a moor? Maybe because a moor in early England doesn’t really mesh with a story whose cultural divide is based largely off the clash of Christianity and paganism. Maybe an a inserted moor would be an interesting perspective on this clash of cultures. But they didn’t see that opportunity, and just jammed in characters of ethnicity for, well, their ethnicity alone. The Last Kingdom is the last show I thought would go this rout. It’s historical, with real events and real historical figures. Of early Britain. And Uhtred, is unabashedly male, quite the alpha and possessing all the toxic traits of masculinity that the Woke army loves to hate. But for all of his apparent irreverence to modern woke sensibilities, he was dead on what should expect of a man of his time period. But that doesn’t fit in within modernity. Never mind historical accuracy… There is an agenda to push through. I’ve waited so long for this season. And I barely got through the first episode before turning it off. The writing felt like they were winging it. Which they are, as it looks like they’ve completely abandoned Cornwell’s carefully researched books for pure fiction. This was the story of how England became united against the Danish threat. It was complex and nuanced. With not just decisive battles winning the day, but assimilation surpassing the sword. After 4 years of building to a carefully constructed crescendo, it has all been tossed aside because some Netflix writer thought they could write a better conclusion than Cornwell. Never mind if it has anything to do with the genuine history of England or not. They will improve upon it, by inserting disabilities and POC into a historically accurate story about early England. Tell me this, and I don’t mean to mock disabled people in the least, but how does a noble summon a deaf servant? And what noble takes the time to learn sign language? A language that wasnt even invented until the 18th century in Britain. So for all Cornwell’s attention to historical accuracy, they throw in this complete anachronism for the sake of representation. So I guess that makes me an ableist? Isn’t that the term for those who despise the disabled? Of course I don’t have anything against the disabled. What human can’t empathize? But again, this show was built on the foundation of history. Cornwell went to great extremes to toil or his fiction around that history probably when it would’ve been a lot more easy to just invent battles and events as plot devices. One more great series robbed from us by the woke army. I’ll probably sludge through the remaining episodes. If it doesn’t improve I’m canceling netflix. I’ve had enough.

hi I'm new to this channel so far I really like your content keep up the good work I hope your channel grows I find you engaging and intelligent and I really have liked a lot of your videos so far so I just want to say keep up the good work man

Disparu , The Jeremy Clarkson of Nerdom ;) lol :)

From my point of view the media machine wants to shame those who dare to have a diffrent opinion into silence. Tolkien is worth something as a brand because of the Fans who are reading his books. Will it be worth without? I do doubt so. Please keep it up Disparu I am just sad about what is done to the Middle Earth Setting by not sticking to the written Lore that Amazon did pay such huge amounts to have the rights to use. This stupid tokenisation and social politics pandering is just tiresome: It dimishes the motivation to watch the show a lot. Will watch your upcoming vids, wont watch the Rings of Power show. Yet worse for Amazon this includes n o t buying merch and media either... Just think about what that means when more people will do the same.

I like your style of presenting and commentary. I'm getting similar vibes to TheQuartering or The Critical Drinker. I would like to see more varied content on similar issues like this. Looks like the Rings of Power mess has helped your channel grow, that's how I found it and subscribed. Best wishes! :)

Another incredible video! Well done!

I absolutely love how hardcore Disparu is going at this article and talking about the erasure of English and white culture due to the progressive agenda. I wholeheartedly agree with everything he’s saying in this video, and he isn’t even a LoTR fan! His thing is Wheel of Time! You go, buddy. Rip and tear until it is done.

I get absolutely pissed every time someone says “Tolkien was against the Nazi’s, so he would be on our side,” equating everyone opposed to them to the most evil organization in recent history. It is the most despicable and disgusting thing you could use in an argument, and it instantly invalidates anything else they have to say if they are willing to stoop to that level.

I just think it's funny that a guy from China writes an English article where he claims to understand Tolkein more than the the people Tolkein wrote for. It's amazing

Awesome once more my friend, well done. I truly believe at this point, many of these people have ZERO interest in Tolkien but possibly zero interest in the actual show as well. This is nothing more than click-bait to them. Professional media shillers have been doing it for years. It's like the misbehaving child, good attention, bad attention, doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is SOME sort of attention. I'd prefer, we not give it to them. I suspect this individual's "Twitter" channel just blew up after writing this and so, they sleep contentedly knowing they've become a "somebody". Ideally, they get lost inside the morass of their own ineptitude and without a "cause", end up working for Starbucks, like all the rest. :)

Good work, Disparu. Keep it up. Those of us with decades of life experience can give the sage advice to the poor shill who wrote that opinion: when pointing a finger at someone/something, remember 3 fingers are pointing back at yourself.

Films used to be about immersing yourself in a dream world, it was about entertainment, human development, great pictures, good actors, a gripping story. Obviously, this series ,like others ,will be only about presenting as many supposedly underprivileged fringe groups as possible no matter if they trashing the story , the lore and for the future , the brand ...to which Tolkien has dedicated his life . the article of this woke guy is so poor . ... i'm getting mad.

Excellent video!!!

Needs the 'Yes (prime) minister' bit about how only the meeting notes are truth. But nicely done!

These so called "scholars" act like they know more about the IP compared to people who read it hundreds (even thousand) of times and dedicated most of their time to it. They (the scholars) turned out to be people for propaganda to destroy Tolkien's work and gets angry after getting called out of their wrong and makes themselves as clowns instead. And I also noticed some forums dedicated to the lore (before) are now turning sideways, suddenly changing their contents to support the new show (in a sense). Amazon (Ring of Power), Netflix (Viking) and then the female Robin from CW.. These studios with their wokeness are now disregarding what the word "canon", making up their own characters and stories and then want to make people accept it as canon. Regarding their defense on "changing characters but maintaining the plot". Alright then, lets just put terminators and the justice league in there but still about the rise and fall of Sauron, that would still make sense and still be "CANON". What a f*cking mess they are.

Great video keep it up🤘

Well done 👏

“When I think of college I just remember being on my knees” You can stop there 🤣😉 haha

BRO LOVE THE CHANNEL ITS GENIOUS

The gloves are off! And it's beautiful. Keep going, Disparu.

Dude you had the absolute best take on this.

The argument of this writer reminds me of the crappy shows on History Channel where you hear arguments like "There are no records that the first Thanksgiving was not haunted or visited by aliens. Yes. South Park did a piece on that but i think that is the arguments you hear from these Amazon shills. - Tolkien wrote that elves were fair skinned every now and then but he didn't write it every time elves were mentioned and he never wrote that black elves didn't exist. If you write a book you need yo tell a story and you can't write a book that consists of everything that wasn't in it or how things did not look.

This is your best video so far! At 10:45 you talk about Doctor who, actually the Twelfth Doctor played by Peter Capaldi, brings this up in the Deep Breath, he asks the cyborg that if you have a broom and change one part of it and then the other part as well would it Still be the same broom?

Thank you mate!

Thanks for being coherent and sensible in your challenges to these "puff pieces". They are lazy, racist and "subvertist" at their core. Slinging mud at everyone else because they can't/won't respect cannon is just standard practice for film/shows at the moment. I look forward to the day, when they have the balls to turn around and at least say, we're updating it and this is our interpretation of it. Enjoy it, or not, and the show survives if people actually like your interpretation. Sadly they invest so much money, any chance of failure has to be blamed on the fans and not the directors/firms who are (repeatedly) producing bad stories.

They hate Tokkien, they hate the fandom, they hate the books, they hate, they hate, they hate. They are literally destroying every single work of beauty. All novels have to be rewritten, all expectations subverted, everything which is beautiful has to be destroyed. These fanatics are the modern day version of the bookburners and witch hunters.

"Unanimous" and yet they call them bitter. That's one hell of mental gymnastics.

brilliant analysis

Let's go disparu.

Well said. Thankyou.

In letter 131 Tolkien specifically states that his mythology is for England.

As I commented on a Nerdrotic video: Good fiction not only has a good story, it also has a consistent, established lore. You can't just change the rules from one book/story/movie/episode to the next without confusing people and making them hate your work. You have to have a reason that narratively works within the established lore to make changes. Particularly big ones. Just because a setting is fantasy doesn't make it ok to randomly change things. Especially when you're dealing with a property like Middle Earth, which has a lore that is probably the deepest and most well-documented of any fantasy property ever. Even fantasy worlds have rules. And sure, you could build a world where there are no rules, but I doubt you'd find anybody who really wants to read/watch it. Tropes are tropes for a reason, and if you want to subvert them, you better have a damned good replacement that makes sense within that world. And where RoP is set before LotR, it has additional restraints it should be working within, because it's partially dealing with characters with established personalities, looks, and histories that have been both alluded to and flat-out stated in other works, and fantasy races Tolkien did describe (regardless of what the "experts" and "scholars" are saying). Fans aren't pissed because there are black elves and dwarfs. Fans are pissed because it doesn't make any sense within Middle Earth's lore.

"Did you read the book Magician from Raymond E. Feist??? its important"

I mean s*** why not put them in cars and give them guns if you're going to go against Cannon/lore and the author, if you're going to completely fuk it up do it right don't half-ass it ..I now hate Amazon as much as I hate Disney

They are going to write over an extremely important moral message that Tolkien was expressing through fantasy.

Yeah we all collectively came to Bash and s*** on Amazon Lord of the Rings and luckily enough there is a unified statement that we all could make to get our point across

Ngl vending machine sauron sounds hilarious

AY UP DISPARU

They think Frodo, Sam and Sauron are the main focus and nothing else matters. What about Gandalf who got Bilbo off of his butt to go have an adventure? What about Aragorn who was an heir and ended up becoming king? Every character was essential to the story. These people are utterly ridiculous. And they said canon is indispensable???? They're crazy. They know nothing

Yup. The desperation is very strong.

I canceled my 2 Prime subscriptions and deleted my Amazon account... When they ask why.. "the rings of power"

Nice analysis, cool t shirt, what is it?

Seems as the Tolkien fandom is not gonna let them whine their way across the finish line . As they have become accustomed. Very curious to see how this plays out .

So as a show concept Amazon made the decision to concentrate on what Tolkien HAD NOT written and chose to ignore what he DID. Anyone sees any possible problems with that? Not Amazon appearently... Here a quote to sum this up quite nicely: "As Albert Einstein once said to me: “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity.” But what is much more widespread than the actual stupidity is the playing stupid, turning off your ear, not listening, not seeing." Frederick S. Pearls 1969 in “Gestalt Therapy Verbatim”

Strong video

What a Surprise, Such Persons lie about something that don't would help them. Never except something like that.

Well, if they can do it with Anne Boleyn (who is an actual historical figure) then of course they can do it with fictional characters ( sarcasm). Descriptions in books/stories are there for a reason: to let the reader VISUALISE the character or the settings. I remember seeing an adaptation of Jane Eyre once, and one of the characters had black hair and a white dress (succinct recap of the description in the book). When she appeared in the film I didn't know it this because "someone" had decided to give her blonde hair and a different colour dress. It was only when her name was uttered that I realised who it was. It's only a small gripe but enough to annoy me. Of course, those who haven't read the book wouldn't know, but stil.

Amazon could solve this whole thing if they just change the title to "Amazon's fanfiction Lord of the Rings"

My favourite contradictory statement is “we felt it was only natural to make Tolkien’s fantasy reflect the modern world we live in today”. What an absolute absurd thing for an apparently living breathing person to say?! Fantasy should reflect reality? So what is the point of fantasy then?… unbelievable!

I am so proud of this community. Some things should stay as they are. This is European culture and philosophy, I don’t see the point to change it

Man I wish you had been a Wheel of Time fan. Love to see what you would would have made of that mess.

Tolkien also had many influences from Kalevala...he even studied Finnish to be able to understand the lore.

Yes Amazon should listen to it's audience. The clue is in the name they're called BAD REBOOT for a reason!