Imagine when she finds out her brother died desperately needing the toilet and crying like a little girl.

The dialogue is the biggest factor why I didn't like these 2 episodes. It is very annoying, tropey, and predictable: "Orcs attacked my hometown." "Really? Where is your hometown?" "I'll tell you later but first we must have some verbal sparring." "Okay. I'm an Orc hunter but I'm not gonna reveal that right now so we can have a misunderstanding." Everyone talks like that. Galadriel, Elrond, Prince Durin, Norin, Arondir, etc. I swear I predicted what everyone was going to say by applying that "Miscommunication Trope". Try it next episode I guarantee you it will work.

@Zike mazowski Then don't make it about Galadriel at all! Problem solved

Also that daddy stayed at home and wanted nothing to do with Middle-Earth and the exiled (including her).

she wasn’t as close to them

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These posts are getting cringe, my guy. I'm not for this adaption, but when I see people doing these dumbass meme posts as a means of criticism... I'm just tired of it.

I’m crying 😂😂😂

The watermark my god

Never trust these fake angrjoe accounts

Just IMAGINE they had made Galadriel a sorceress and she used magic to kill the Troll. That scene could have been so epic and shown her insane power. AND then they could introduce the big bad, who nearly kills/defeats/hurts Galadriel etc. so we can see how much of a threat we are facing. But no, they had to turn her into a man with a sword and armour.

It's early days man! Let's give this show a chance! And given it's highly limited premise with an age that is filled with gaps, sure... It's obvious that this is very much a heavy adaptation on scarce source material. And as for the pacing I'm actually OK with it... I want this to be a slow burn... A slow build up to something, hopefully, spectacular later on down the road. This show has HUGE potential... And if they can build upon these two episodes then I think we're in for a ride! And I have to say, given all the negative and unfair backlash that this show has already suffered... A show that's barely started! I was surprised that I actually liked it more than I was expecting! And I suspect that, given time, some people will come around too. A lot of the negative backlash has been hysterical and irrational... But if the show continues to improve, then it will overcome such nonsense! Nonetheless, if what we've seen thus far is about as good as the show gets... Well then, there's a good chance it might fail! But let's get real... Lots of shows start off slowly, so I really can't see this being the case! I guess only Time will tell but, I for one am now officially invested... A pleasant surprise... Totally out of the blue!

@@sdwone they spent a BILLION on this. The more I think about it, the more I hate it. They were given EVERYTHIng to make this show good and it is average at best. How can you shill for Amazon so much? ONE BILLION and 2 episodes, which have bad writing and bad acting in parts.

@@mrfreeman2911 I'm not shilling dude, I, along with others, just happen to like this show... A show that's barely started! I mean, TWO episodes in and people are already writing it off!? And besides, we're not part of the Borg Collective... Yet! So people are free to form their own opinions... Shock Horror I know!!!

@@sdwone 2 episodes. How many episodes is the first season? 8 spisodes. We are already 25 % through the season. I criticised the writing. It is bad. You think the writing is good? if you do, name me the part that has good writing. The writing is bad and my example is her brother telling her about stones looking down.........wtf does that even mean.

Yeah but those expectations should be there. If you come up with your own story you get some leeway. If the story is already written and you're just copying it into TV format, you better get the damn story right.

this is tolkien, and they spent a billion dollars. high expectations are completely justified. the only reason they can’t pull it off is because of corporate incompetence, horrible writers and lack of faithfulness to the source material and a determination to make their own subpar story interesting to people who want to see what tolkien wrote.

@@jfk8540 exactly what Disney did to Star Wars and look how the sequel trilogy turned out absolute 🗑

Joe is too busy drinking soy milk

Even without knowing the story. I watched lord of the rings over and over as a kid and I rewatched it again last year and I was reminded why I loved the movies. They genuinely felt like an adventure story that had a level of seriousness to it. This show is just a big disappointment, I can't take it seriously, nor can I connect to the characters.

What’s with movies and TV shows in recent years making all the women into these toxic “yass slay!” Girlbosses?

They even had a guy to raise her up, just like in superwoman they have a bunch of inept men raise the woman up. There's no equality in their views. But it's funny, by simply filling masculine social tropes with female character types who embody those very tropes it might not be so much an elevation of the femenine as much as a blind attachment to the masculine qualities as the ones that actually matter. These corporations couldn't tell their right from their left

She barely even tried and killed it easily. Maybe she was saving all her spell slots incase sauron was around the next corner

@@bol317 spell slots?! Hahaha Solid joke.

I agree shes better as a sorceress, but i suppose that might be more boring visually? IDK...

their confusion is funny, like totally dont know anything, like they would enter room with dump on the table and start talking stuff like " it feels somekinda ... off??...right?"

Alex expressions says it's all...

Alex is the dude that want to be Critical Drinker guy. He does that cause he kbow million of people will like his opinion instead of someone positive. He sucks too much. His opinion was based on "people" not him. His score was based on some super conservative dude crying about a black elf with shoet hair not his own opinion.

You mean Alex knows better what a piece of nerd shit this show is? Or is he more knowledgeable in the lore to appreciate this piece of nerd shit show?

It's most of the reason I still watch these.alex is the only adult with any standards on this show. Joe and baby hoe are goofs with low standards and simple minds

Lmfao

How could a Uni Sovyet Ship stranded there?

IMO that's Sauron and he's protecting the raft from everything that comes its way.

Damn that lore was so deep, Tolkien couldn’t even find it. Impressive

I think it may have actually been the USS Liberty...

I wonder what percentage of viewers actually knows about what Tolkien wrote in the subtexts. I have not read them so deviation from the books is not affecting the show for me and I actually really like the characters and story so far. Also, why does everyone need to “know where the story is going”. Isn’t part of the fun the not completely knowing?

It should have been called Lord of the Rainbow.

@@decibel0746 they need to know where the story is going because this is essentially a prequel to actual story told by Tolkien. That's the problem, you don't change the original author's story.

@@michaelcosta7235 I hear ya. I’m excited to see how they connect the stories.

It's failure at every step of the way except for the visuals... but even they seem, what is the right word... artificial? Same with the visuals for the characters themselves. They just seem more like Cosplayers rather than the actual actors... or that it's Star Trek races, not Middle-Earth Races. They are all just humans with fake ears, big noses, stout and short, or just hobbit-sized, etc. It's really painful to watch when everything is making my brain proverbially scream at me 'uncanny valley!!'

No surprise, Joe even got House of The Dragon characters wrong. Sometimes I wonder if he even pays attention or just drinks too much when they watch the shows.

@@TanThighsYum Probably both. If it's boring and uninspired writing, I would be unable to pay a lot of attention too.

@@Mr.KittensAndGibberish he does this with every show/movie/video game though.

@@JamesT094 That's just not true.

@@TanThighsYum You'd have to drink a lot to be able to put up with the audience he's cultivated over the years.

Oh my gosh. I haven't seen this show but this is one of the biggest disses I've seen for anything, lol. Ouch.

that's fair

LOL

Yeah exactly 🤣

Wow that’s perfect 😮

Apparently, they don't have the copyright stuff. This show feels like it appeals more to the fans of the films than the book anyway.

On books, huge Tolkein fan but gave up on WoT. However, after 2 episodes of this, I prefer the WoT TV series.

always taking interruptions like a champ

he have patience with his boss, you don't say

Alex just loves dialogue and big words that make him feel smart, you can have little words that everyone can understand and still have action and great diverse creatures and magic. He wants House of Cards from a show about elves, stone giants, shadow kings & ghost dragons. They want such grounded shows out of shows that go beyond courtroom cases and arguments in a room or 5 people. Alex has some great points every now and then but he just loves to always feel big when he could just chill out and enjoy something more then just dialogue and big words.

That's his boss, what's the alternative?

@@KingTairun he listens to OJ too. they are friends before boss and employee.

I love the part where this is a copypasta, wow bro epic

Still doing this cringe crap

@@MrBrooks444 it's still kind of funny, lmao. RoP is a solid 6-6.5. Thank god House of the Dragon is airing alongside it because it's much better. I think Galadriel having a lightsaber would actually make the show better.

*You're Loved the joke. Gave me a good laugh. 👍

Her rendition of "Anaconda" was really inspiring. 10/10

This version of Galadriel is not based on TLotR books. She’s based on the silmarillion, and she’s actually pretty accurate to the book

@@chrismichaelis7259 no, she's based on tlotr appendices, couple pages in tlotr book regarding second age - they do Not have the rights to the silmarillion. Also she's not accurate in the slightest.

Yeah, very memorable scene, that. Definitely on par with when Elrond said "You shall be the Fellowship of the Ring."

I love him, but Joe can be a bit of a mindless shill sometimes....

Eh, I’m sure he has read the books and likes them and is a fan but he is most definitely not as knowledgeable as he seems to think he is. There were quite a few things he mentioned in this review that were not accurate at all in regards to lore specifics.

I agree mate, thank god for Alex.

@@winstonsmith8482 I agree mate, I suggest checking out Razorfist's video. It's brilliant.

I agree about Alex. Ive been finding myself souring on OJ lately. He he has the same take about every review. "It was okay, a little slow, not too interested yet, but okay. 6/10." He's so uninterested it affects my enjoyment of the video. Whether they like whatever it is or not, Alex and AJ care about what they're doing.

Lmao. Pretty accurate

Good analogy

The Rice Gum of tv shows

Haha. Poetic, love it mate! 🍻

I thought it was good. If you have a problem with black actors you must have an issues with dragons right? Or Elijah Wood, the lead actor in Happy Feet and Flipper was a historically accurate orange haired, irish accent Hobbit right??? Right?

Exactly!

Yeah totally joe just holds him back

@@KZfaqGuy825 and cuts him off. Well, he cuts everyone off and is kinda simple minded tbh lol

He's the only reason I watch the AngryKarenShow, when I do

@@raypeterson8600 haha perfect😂

before it was for other joe, but his peanutbrain cant handle more then starring is antonio starch, once a bright future, w/e

Up there with "It's Morbin Time" for quotes.

I really liked when she told Gandalf, "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, if you don't have family."

@@Tracer_Sweat It's a story about family, that's what makes it so powerful.

Cringe gen zombie meme

Trash

But what about trans people? They are more important!! You're a bigot!

How much empowerment and motivation do women actually require? It's like dealing with toddlers at this point, lmao. Long gone is the 'I am woman, hear me roar'.

Show states she had just fought for centuries (it's alluding to the War of Wrath, though the show doesn't have rights to use that name). She has more fighting experience than all the members of the fellowship combined. She's in a whole other league of ability to compared to the fellowship. If you have a problem with her being powerful take it up with Tolkien.

I wish they'd listen to people like you. I really wish they would.

I think you got this show mixed up with prey. Literally what you're talking about refers to that movie.

I mean they are not the same genre, HotD is political modern fantasy while ROP is classical heroic fantasy. That is like comparing star wars with the Expanse, they are both scifi but completely different subgenres

Yeah just saw ep3 of House of Dragons just after the pilots of Ring of Power, and they really are not in the same league. Rings of Powers make me think of the old 90s fantasy series quality wise plus expensive music and sfx, while House of Dragons is modern quality series.

I agree that HotD is exponentially better at hooking a viewer. As it does a whole lot of showing without telling. It lets us make the connection ourselves without going, "now see, this is what you're supposed to think." I'll give two examples of this, but beware spoilers, but first to address those saying "Well HotD & ROP are two different sub genres of the Fantasy genre" I would like to point out that the OP wasn't about how one show is better at being that subgenre. It was that one show is better at hooking the audience in. You can still compare Marvel movies with the show The Wire if you are comparing two series that do a great job of having past events weave throughout a greater narrative that exists inside of a larger world that can be explored at any time. Can you compare them genre wise? No. Can you compare them with consistency and world building? Yes. So the showing and not telling... There's a sequence in HotD where Rhaenyra confronts her uncle with her dragon. It's the first time she's really done anything of serious note. Everyone told her to just sit in the corner. She instead did her plan. Flying her dragon to confront one of the most dangerous killers in the land. A Targaryen that is in open revolt against the king. She stiffly (looks to be scared out of her mind but she's making a good show of it) strolls up to him and diffuses a dangerous situation. A scene or so later and look how she's walking. She's swaggering. She's realizing her power. There's no dialogue of her going "I'm a big girl now." It's all said in her walk. I saw her walk and thought, "damned...she really is a bad ass." A second moment of show don't tell, or how we get hooked into character's & stories, the 3rd episode battle. Prince Daemon's plan to defeat the Crab Jerk. We learn a few things about him from an episode where be barely talk and the only time people talk about him is to put him down. This dude stops trying to talk & instead just acts. Notice that whenever he does talk he hurts his position. When he just acts he improves it. He singlehandedly (for a bit at least) faces the crab jerks army. If he does the plan fails. But he puts himself there first. So we know he's a good leader. He's willing to accept more danger than he puts his men in. But we also know he doesn't value every man. As he kills someone with his dragons foot early on. So he's cold. He's driven by pride. He only does this because he can't let it seem as if his brother rescues him. But again, when crab jerk runs into the tunnels Daemon follows to kill him. He doesn't order someone else to go. He doesn't ask people to follow to witness how great he is. He just acts. It pays off. We also learn that he doesn't fear gray scale. Damned...do I root for him or not? All this little clues we get to put together. All these decisions. That hooks. Not dialogue telling us "You are full of bad stuff in your heart. This is what your character is. This is how the audience should think. But it's good that you are this because we tell you it's good."

It's like comparing children writing a story versus a historical lecturer writing a story.

And black elves don't exist.

a very expensive stinker

They just ramble on and on and on the entire first episode outside of one fight scene with the troll. It was hard to stay awake watching it.

Is this supposed to be funny?

@@tordb your a boomer aren’t you

This jokes are becoming so lame

@@117MasterSpartan Bruh, the joke getting old and isn’t funny anymore

@@tordb Well personally i loved that scene where Sauron talked to Frodo through the ring and said "Mama always said life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you're gonna get."

IMDB deleted ALL negative reviews. On IMDB, the first page on Rings of Power, the top review had 2/10. And majority of the reviews gave it from 2-3/10. Now the top review is 9/10, but has only 300 upvotes and 1100 downvotes. They also deleted my 2/10 review. Now I know for a fact that IMDB takes money to heighten movie reviews. I always suspected it, but now its confirmed.

@@vipr1142 well, IMDB is an Amazon Company… 😅

@@vipr1142 who gives a shit. This people are some 9y old crying on sone haircut

@@lysander969 I did not know that Time to stop using IMDB then ^^

That's the power of having a diverse cast. :- }. Because I just finished the lord of the rings movies this year. Never read the books. I am willing to give Rings of Power a chance.

Joke is dead at this point. You guys aren’t funny

@@Mirage475 I still find them all funny. They are written better than the show even.

@@Mirage475 joke still good boi

@@Mirage475 you seem fun

Jesus that memes been dead for ages

@@pdpMASTERP “it has been remade!”

@@misterious5217 lol hell yeah

Bezos actually sounds like a dark lords name, this was epic😂

Did you think of this all by yourself?

Best comment ever😍😂😂

This was hilarious and brilliant! 😂

@@davidh7088 It's the script to this: /watch?v=4g5jFYeBmLA

thats how its pronounced

@@xXTopGXx no, it's pronounced in elvish like Mike L said: ga-LAAAAA-dri-el

Showrunners cannot say it too

Who Cares

@@RonhozZ Well, people who expect other people to have some form of competency for one, 20 years is a very long time to learn how to do something simple and if one cannot learn in 20 years then what are you supposed to think about them. I bet you love RoP.

@@arcahmwinters70 Have you looked on IMDB? Almost all negative reviews are removed

I was cringing at how many times Galadriel pronounced her name differently. Really really good acting ....

Spot on description! Couldn't say better myself.

damn people really didn't enjoyed it. I watch the two episodes and was like "okay that was more enjoyable than house of dragons" and then i see all the opinion online

​@@ha-kh7ef complete opposite, I enjoyed house of dragon, reminded me of the 1st season of GoT. Gonna watch 3rd episode soon. While watching Rings of Power I've checked the timer at around 24th minute, which is a really bad sign. Actors seem to be in a play instead of a movie, which breaks immersion for me.

I was about to reply, but you summed it up perfectly, Drake. I enjoyed it, though, and I look forward to the upcoming episodes. I can add that I like it more than House of the Dragon.

Also, he reincarnates shortly after, which would make Galadriel's motivation for hunting sauron non existent. They would have rewirete the whole show if they decided to do this single detail correctly.

They don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion, the best they could have done would have him with Beren, but the claw marks on his body seem to indicate his death was the same

@@jarettkwiatek2122 I did not even notice claw marks. Ill have to go back and check that out. What are their rights exactly? as they do happily show the two trees of valinor in scenes and advertisement. Guess they have some access to the first age.

@UC4ovKXbWQrAPxIQraa5N5wg Yeah, I'd say they do leve it alone, but mainly because in LOTR/Hobbit, Humans are the protagonists fo the story, so we don't really have a focus o Elves, their families, their death etc. But when we go to 1st/2nd age stuff, Elves are the main focus, thus the Mandos stuff automatically becomes more important, especially when one of the characters (Finrod) has a VERY important moment related to Mandos as he was one of the only 2 elves that are shown to be reincarnated in the books. So I'd say the had to leave this key moment out so Galadriel's plot could exist in the show.

And Galadriel is the aunt of the king gil - galad,! Why is she so submisive?

Yes!

What do you mean?

Exactly!!

Damn this is spot on. That’s exactly what I felt.

YES I was trying to find a way to summarize it and you did it perfectly. Second episode was much more engaging

yeah alex who had the most to criticize about this show, being the so called "expert" of the group, should of had the most to say, but he actually said the least out of the 3. i feel like he's holding back a lot, which makes the review as a whole feel a bit disingenuous despite their ratings.

Yeah I value Joe's and Alex's perspective because I'm between then when it comes to the knowledge of the lore. I know most of my lore bc KZfaq videos so I don't know too much details

And Sauron replied "I'll be back !"

This needs to be a top comment since people can’t understand why other people can have a different opinion.

You're welcome to an opinion, but don't try to state your mostly unqualified opinion as a fact.

@@ArrctvHe's also entitled to state his opinion with confidence, and if you don't like it you are entitled to disagree. But you can fuck right off trying to tell him how he should state his opinions. We're not talking about medical advice here.

for a billion dollars, it shouldn't have to try and find its feet. They keep allowing them to make mediocre content and ruining IP's that now an actually qualified not woke moron won't touch because of how much money will be lost on this.

Only average? What shows have you been watching? This show was was one of the most amazing tv shows I’ve ever seen in my Life. Just shows how spoiled people have become since 2000

Well you want AJ's perspective because it aligns more with the vast majority of audience, I can guarantee you most have not read the books or know the lore outside of the movies. You really want all of their opinions though.

Maybe you should just stick to the books if you want it this lore accurate.

@@RundOnline 🙄

The numenorians never get to valinor it's their attempt that sinks the entire island after being tricked by sauron

@@RundOnline how about they make their own shity fantasy story and leave Tolkin legacy in competent hands not incompetent amatures ????

@@RavenL1337 Y? What law gave the "real tolkin" fanboys exclusive rights to it? I have something and other children can't play with it. It's mine! Boehoehoe... That's how you sound. You can't even imagen other people don't give a shit about the simarilion can't you?

Time stamp?

This isnt a lord of the rings show. This is a poor representation of Hollywood activitists trying hard to shove their bullshit in lore. The fact that amazon literally wanted to adapt this into modern culture should be a crime in of itself. I cant count how many times the actor that plays theblack dwarf said "we needed a show to make ppl who look like me feel represented, i am the first female black dwarf" is beyond cringy and annoying especially for black ppl like myself. I watch a show to escape. I LOVE LOTR Trilogy and even the Hobbit. I never once said i need more black ppl to feel represented. This doesnt feel like a work of Tolkein at all. Its called plagiarism. U steal work and presant it in a way thats true like u did it.

@@paulypipes3082 dude your whole spiel is cringe. You're now more annoying than any liberal or SJW ever was, and that's saying something.

there is larpers better equipped

@@paulypipes3082 That's because they don't have enough rights to present this kind of story. It's basically a fanfic.

There's still 6 episodes left

@@TheBlueArmageddon cant change it when ep 1 and 2 are non sensical and lore butchering

@@TheBlueArmageddon the first ep is supposed to be one of the best ones to get people hooked... If ep 1 and 2 are shit don't expect much better later on

@@TheBlueArmageddon so what? we already are 2h in to the show. so you want me to wait 6 more episodes to judge the show? the show costs 1 billion dollars. you normies were saying the same thing with picard, halo, witcher,. wheel of time . " ITS JUST FIRST EPISODE, IT WILL BE GOOD." xd

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it This season hasn’t cost a billion to make. People love throwing that number around and it isn’t even true. It cost around $435m for season 1. Considering that it’s basically an 8 hour movie - with movie grade production - it’s not actually an insanely expensive show. All that coverage has been somewhat overblown. I think that 1 billion figure comes from combining the production costs of season 1 AND 2 and also possibly what Amazon paid for the rights from the Tolkien estate. So, you can stop attacking this season for costing a billion. It didn’t.

What audio track is this?

please no f word

When Elrond says how could the tree not grow in such a loving home, I actually felt that, such a good scene. The rest of the show was just okay to good.

I refuse to watch the show. Is Elrond supposed to be the "elf" who has the "angry lesbian" / "90s female politician" haircut? Is that the guy who is supposed to play Elrond? The one dressed in old lady's night gowns?

@@KosmicNomad "When the moon festers in the scorching high noon sun, that's when all the cats return home" That's what counts as profound writing according to the show runners of rings of power (and from the teasers I've seen lol)

@@godofchaoskhorne5043 your opinion is invalid unless you watch the show. Then you can shit on it as much as you want

They are the only redeeming part of the show. The other 2 plot lines are boring

What’s political about the show?

Feminazi political correctness masterclass shrouded in a mist of bad fan fiction

@@trentnida3420 I genuinely can’t understand how black people and women existing in a show is political

@@theotter6279 the dwarf queen is the sister to Thorin and mother to Fili and Kili, as well as being a mountain dwarf, yet somehow a different race than them. Also she's supposed to have a beard but of course they didn't do that because that would be racist. The actress even straight up said this isn't about respecting Tolkien's world but instead to be more diverse. Galadriel by this time was one of the oldest and most respected elves as well as most powerful, but now is a foot soldier who's not taken seriously by her youngers?

@@theotter6279 Have you been living under a rock these past 10 years?

"Rambles" is on point. Lmfao.

How can anyone watch 50 minutes of Joe's rambling is beyond understandable for me.

Look at Joe's face when Alex and OJ are talking. looks borderline POd

@The Rotten💯 Yeah they kept on mentioning to Amazon that they where messing with the lore to much and it's rumoured that's why he was fired.

... like the trilogy did not? Its normal to change bits, issue is movies pulled it of, series so far did not

@@nythyas123 amazin shill

They are combining thousands of years of lore into a singular linear storyline, mixing with new elements that are totally original. It only makes sense that a ton of lore isn't going to play well with such a large truncation of time/lore.

It's were not "where"

LMAO

Excellent point especially if they make a point that disagree or exposes the point he made

“Boats float because they look up”. That’s not mystical it’s dumb

THANK YOU!!! It was atrocious...it was like getting a bunch of people drunk and telling them to recite Shakespeare.

It's like the kind of cringe I might have written aged 15, thinking I was being deep and philosophical.

IKR ...writting was so bad ...that I was cringing throughout the whole episode.

Its so fucking dumb and it feels like they did the dialog in 0.75 speed its so dumb

"Diversity" is code for white erasure.

Superman: Red Sun

Rings of Power is 50 hours of screen time. There are five or six seasons, so yes, there will be more of a build up compared to an edited two hour movie.

@@rafterman5072 Actually at the moment it's 1 season. Now assuming the show does well enough sure they might probably continue on upward of 5 seasons. They can say they plan on doing 1000 seasons, doesn't mean they're going to do them. I do seriously wonder, if they spent 1 billion on this first season and it continues to be as boring as it's first 2 hours is do you honestly think that Amazon will put down another billion each for seasons 2-5?

It’s way better then House of Boredom Targaryen 🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

@@baf9369 In your opinion I suppose, personally it's drawn me in enough to convince me to continue watching despite how horrible the final season screwed it up. General talk about it is a positive buzz and it's pulling in good scores and good viewing numbers (assuming HBOMax isn't fudging those) what I've heard on general for this show so far from friends and family who have watched it is mostly in line with my own opinion either boredom or outright disdain.

@@matthewwilliams3579 To me the only people hating this show aren’t exactly Tolkien fans. Most of the actual fans of the Silmarillion like what they have done especially visually but it’s got huge promise. We’ve waited years and years for this so of course want it to do well. Episode 2 was very enjoyable so I don’t mind the slow build.

Or a silmaril

@@Durendail I think they can mention them like they did w/ Feanor/his hammer but showing don't think so

@@Durendail that’s a pretty BIG story change if it is one. I guess it could be the one that was dropped in a fiery chasm? The other two are long gone tho. Pretty sure the Tolkien estate wouldn’t be too happy if it was. They’re pretty protective. Who knows tho - it could be.

It probably is Mithril which the whole reason the realm of Khazah Dum fell they dug too deep for Mithril and unleashed Durin's Bane.

It looked really glowy though, so I don’t think it could be mithril.

I really think it's below average to me it's a 4/10. The dialogue is pathetically bad by any standard let alone compared to the stuff Tolkien wrote.

Who would have thought

@@gamble777888 wah wah

I think it's like Avatar where everything is either generic or garbage but people ignore it cuz "WOW LOOK AT THE FLASHY LIGHTS!"

It is mainly the poor writing. The plot drives the characters, often with them making decisions completely out of character because the plot demands it. It culminated in that one scene in the second episode where the lady harfoot pretty much declared that she believed her whole purpose was to be here for this moment and to perform this action. Yes all fictional characters have no real agency of their own, but good writers will allow you to believe that they have agency in the story.

Wow, first comment out of hundreds of comments that I've seen mentioning that Galadriel is royalty! Which if anyone even bothers to read even a basic wiki article, they would know. She is a princess for crying out loud! Which makes the first scenes with her being bullied in Valinor even more baffling. Royalty may find itself isolated as children, but one thing they aren't ever, I imagine, is bullied! Ever. Certainly not to that extent where the perpetrators would be making repeat transgressions which that felt like in the opening scene.

So now that it's over, how do you feel? I like hearing different opinions of what people thought then and now.

In actuality, Galadriel would not have gotten on the boat to Valinor in the first place and even Gil-Galad did not have the authority to "make" her go. She is a Noldorin Princess (though you would never know it by this show), not some lacky to be ordered about. Mind NOTHING Galadriel does in this show is true to lore, so no surprise.

At least she could have had a moment of elven magic foreseeing her destiny or whatever…

Yeah, I don't trust the (currently) 6.2 rating a bit after this backlash....I haven't seen the show and I won't so I can't tell if it's maybe actually okayish but given the backlash on the trailers this rating seems weird.

LotR EE trilogy is all of the content and entertainment we need

The original three, not the Hobbit trilogy.

All about the original extendos

@@austins.2495 except for the battle scene. And the dragon scenes

@@austins.2495 I forget the hobbit trilogy exists lol

Celebrimbor is especially bad. The actor has no grace or gravitas. Side note: how could this show not hire any A-listers? LOTR had Ian McKellen, Christopher Lee, Cate Blanchett. You need some stars to carry weak writing!

@@psell8628 no decent A list actor wanted to have anything with this abomination of a show :)

I'm ok about it ...the show would suck if Galadriel is like an uber-powered mary sue. if the show shows her character build, that would be emotionally investing.

@@psell8628 Ian McKellen and Christopher Lee hated making the movies, why would they want to make the shows? Also, those are movie actors who are generally on a different caliber than show actors, which sounds weird... but it's true. They do have A-list actors, you just don't know them is the issue...

Wow - I have exactly the same feelings about how elves are portrayed. And I agree that Arondir is actually best at it as he seems a bit more distant, less human - which is actually a good thing.

You think Joe is humble enough to give him the spotlight. Nah the man loves the sound of his own voice.

it’s the angry joe show

@@huey6248 Seems Joe has lost the plot these days. That twitter brainwashing is really showing.

@@huey6248 Sadly

@@sauldownbadman876 preach

Not a book reader but isn’t Legolas a very skilled/old elf by the time the film happens and Elrond seems like a kid in the show

You can hear the elves foot steps? LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE TRASH, THEY MIGHT AS WELL SHIT ON TOLKIEN'S GRAVE

@@Aamonnater -_-

@@Aamonnater iirc from the books, elves are supposed to be quiet/nimble (hence, that point by ShawsOwn). As for Elrond's age, he may be young but I think he isn't that young (prolly more than a thousand years old at this point in time...I could be wrong tho)

That is more of a nitpick than a criticism.

Fellowship of the Ring, especially the extended cut, is a genuine slow burn. However we stuck with Frodo, we got to know him, his friends. It was also very clear what the goal was and what the stakes were. Get the ring to the volcano, if Sauron gets the ring we are doomed. After two hours or Rings of Power we went from "evil is coming" to "here are all these characters, they know evil is coming." It's like if Gandald leaving the Shire to research the ring was the entirety of the first LotR.

Slow burn requires there to be an actual fire in the first place. This is more of a slow rotting

From, Midnight Mass, The Outer Range are some good examples of recently well done "slow burns" IMO.. If you haven't seen any of the 3 I highly recommend checking them out while waiting for this show to actually get good 😱😴

​@@jasonfenton8250 Completely agree. I consider Fellowship as my favorite out of the trilogy mostly because of the slow burn and world-building. and of course all of the extended editions can be considered slower burns to their theatrical counterparts but I live for that stuff. I feel like they tried to mimic the extended edition approach for this series without the capturing the essence of what it is supposed to accomplish.

@@justanothershirerat7584 you need to have good characters (possible not woke or at least make them interesting) and a really good plot to make a good slow burn. This is just boring after 35min in.

I want a link. Please, I can’t go on for much longer without a link

I feel like I'm the only one who liked the story and acting

@@singmysin it's literally the 1st & 2nd episode which are mainly setting up the world & characters. I really don't see why people are disliking it.

There are plenty of reviews digging into the storytelling that are positive. I can imagine casuals liking this, and generally people who know nothing about Tolkien. It's reviews digging into the actual lore that are negative. Personally as a Tolkien fan I didn't hate it. A lot of the changes are just dumb and nonsensical, like Galadriel going to Valinor (which can't happen because she's banned) and then swimming back (across the entire sundering sea!!). But overall it was... okay? It's not just positive and negative reviews, most of them are 10/10 or 1/10 and it isn't either of those things unless you're a Tolkien purist.

this is why Disney is still in business, you can show pretty colors and forget about the story. Most people are just retarded that way

That’s not true at all. The thing is that there isn’t really much of a plot yet. The first two episodes have been an introduction of sorts. The CGI is also an important aspect of a show like Rings of Power. Middle Earth is a beautiful, almost picturesque, type place, and has been rendered quite well.

I mean this stuff has been going on in the gaming community for over a decade now. Normies getting all wet by beautiful graphics for what they completely ignore the bad gameplay, poor story writing and all the bugs.

Good thing the writing in this so is amazing so far. The dialogue is like its taken straight from the books and letters.

@@mesicek7 Yeah that's why the most popular games with the "normies" are Minecraft, Fortnite, Roblox, Among Us, The Sims, Fall Guys, etc. Real graphical masterpieces lmao

@@mesicek7 yep MArvel started it with it's dumb ass eyecandy and people have adopted it

Visuals do count. They can make or break a show instantly.

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That got me..

I love KZfaq where you can see the same joke repurposed a thousand times. And then the jokes premise is deeply flawed cause noone in the Terminator franchise ever says "Take my hand if you want to live".

@@Psilocybin77 "MAC-10 7mm"

@@Psilocybin77 The misquote was intentional. But explain more why we shouldn't like the meme, should work out well for you.

@@warlordbasil5873 because it's a sad, unfunny meme with no actual humor--it is just one reference connected to a random other reference with a non-sequitor. The only reason you like it is because you see references you know, so you can clap like a seal and feel good because your brain understood a common pop culture reference. It is on the same level as Reddit Puns, effortless humor performed by 12 year Olds that does nothing but spam comments with their crap. So just know every time you do it, how unoriginal and not funny you are :)

While I agree with what you're saying here, Tolkien actually wrote "All that is gold does not glitter." Its part of the prophecy of Aragorn and The Reforging of Narsil aka The Return of The King.

Full quote. "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king."

Frodo say something similar, He says to the other Hobbits upon meeting Aragorn and discussing whether to trust him something like; "I think a servant of the enemy would look fairer and feel fouler." Aragorn overhears and says something like "So I look foul and feel fair, eh?" Tying back to the prophecy.

Shakespeare was who wrote that phrase not tolkien. Fanboys mat know a lot about a particular work, but th3y are atill ignorant people overall

What are you really wanting to say when you say "inject the modern world?"

I disagree, I think it had the heart and soul, and then some.

@@JamieSwitzer I don't know it pretty heartless to shit on a legacy

I hate when people use purposefully vague descriptors like "the acting just isn't there" or "the series has no soul" as if it actually fucking means anything. Its just easy shit to say that cant be easily disproved because its so subjective its impossible to have a meaningful conversation about it. How exactly do you quantify soul? The Harfoots have no heart? Elrond's excursion into the Dwarven mines, reconnecting with his old friend is soulless? Fuck off with that shit.

@@acidrain92 Making the kinslaying a stupid plot point because now we can just swim across hey? Get outta here clown

@@acidrain92 Shitting on Tolkien's legacy sounds pretty soulless and heartless to me.

"Galadriel what is best in life?" "Crush the patriarchy, see them driven before strong wammin and hear the lamentations of the finance department !"

The first episode was pretty boring I agree. Gobblygook fantasy writing. Joe said the script was “good”. Makes me appreciate Peter Jackson even more.

"Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next project!". Disney has taken this approach with a million Star Wars/Marvel spinoff shows that are mostly "meh". I wouldn't be shocked if Amazon tries a similar approach and leave the possibility for a few LOTR spinoffs :/

just like AAA games. amazing graphiucs, boring gameplay, cringe dialogues

I feel like you forget bad movies and shows have always existed

There are plenty of great screenwriters. They're just flipping burgers.

Exactly. The difference between GOT season 1-4 and seasons 5-8 is night and day.

the problem is he does not know what the fuck he is talking about. "there are Harfoots around and Galadriel is good with a sword". Harfoots were one of the three breeds of hobbits, along with Stoors and Fallohides and were very much around in the second age. Galadriel was commander of the Northern Army and extremely skilled with a blade. Tolkien called her a warrior Amazon type. It is disturbing watching people talk about things they have no clue about. There are additions in Rings of Power created for the show but much of the story and lore remains faithful to what Tolkien created.

@@Orgotheonemancult Hollywood doesn't want them, they'd rather have checkbox hires and activists write their shows, so the creative ones have nothing else but burgers.

@@logirex the problem is that these "fans" don't know sh*t about the lore besides something they read on fandom wiki, not knowing that that lore is all pretty much fan-fiction. Tolkien barely wrote anything substantial regarding the Second Age besides Numenor (it was his only real interest regarding that period), and even that was very uncomplete. His son is the one that picked up all his notes and rewrote them into some form of consistent storytelling (there was another writer that helped him but I can't remember the name), and still there are many plot holes or inconsistent storytelling, with some characters dead and then alive again, or confusing names or who did this or that deed. Sadly the people that should be praising this show for bringing to life something that is unique and rarely done right, are the ones that are more prepared to bring it down because "oh that dwarf girl should have a beard!", not knowing that Tolkien never wrote that women dwarves also had beards (he never even talked about dwarven women!, that was something done in the movies, and it was stolen from Terry Pratchet's Discworld franchise!

more budget would not have helped wheel of time. they already had a really high budget, the show was ruined as soon as rafe good his disgusting paws on the ip

You are right, and what irritated me was WoT reddit page saying that the show is good in light of the entire series of books. I was critical when the show came out and i was 3 books in, read the WoT reddit opinions and thought.."ok maybe I dont know what im talking about". Flash forward to when I finished the book series, and now I am more convinced that the show is terrible and butchered the lore.

​@@juandrefourie8572 I got multiple temporary bans from r/wot and a permanent ban from r/wheeloftime just for giving my honest review (which they called gaslighting and toxic). I was scathing, but I was certainly not toxic. Its irritating to no end, especially since its my favorite series.

@@howlingbeast3x6 kind of disagree, even though rings of power was nothing special character or story wise so far, it absolutely looks gorgeous in every frame. That definitely helps in a visual medium. I still want the wheel of time show to succeed, it’s the only adaptation I’m gonna see in my lifetime. But if people watch rings of power and decide they want more fantasy , wheel of time looks downright cheap in comparison. Which is too bad, it’s the better source material imo

@@taliefer16 I'm the complete opposite. I prefer having no adaptation than the trash we got. It will taint the name of wheel of time and it will lower the chances of having a good adaptation. As for why I said it would not change much, the wheel of time already had a big budget of 80 million dollars, which was wasted. They put a bunch of money in buying the newest high-tech camera so we can better see how cheap the costumes look. The amount of money they had was not the issue, its the fact that they wasted it. Thats what I meant, having a bigger budget would not help the show that much since they don't spend it well

I think you mean Nori. She's the only character of that useless Harfoot subplots that I don't wish death on. Unfortunately, "healer lady" has been typecast in my mind by the show Counterpoint.

And the elves looks like hobbits

What?? Maybe I'm blind

Really? I thought all the costumes looked pretty damn good. Only costumes I think felt hokey were some of the Dwarven armor, but that's about it.

The costumes look like plastic? Bro get glasses yes the show isn't the best however the costumes are one of its strong points

Sound track is incredible what are you on about lol. It’s like Poeple in these comments were going in wanting to hate it and nitpick the dumbest reasons. Obviously music isn’t objective, but they brought bear mccreary on for a reason. Dude is amazing at what he does and the music here is really incredible.

racist

Oh Lawd Dem Rangz of Powah!!!

@@thisistheplan414 Not racist. People have been imagining these things through the books a certain way for years. Then people saw them adapted to movies according to the books in the original way. Now all of a sudden things changed, for modern day political reasons, and it screws with the fantasy world that has already been well established. Tolkien created these stories because he felt all the English had for folklore was King Arthur. If anything it is racist for Amazon and the shows directors to change these stories to suit their own world views. You would be calling the show racist if Amazon took African folklore and changed the races of a bunch of characters from black to white or asian. But since they are changing them from white to black you think it's ok because your mind has been brainwashed into think bIackwashing is OK, righteous, and social justice.

@@thisistheplan414 Stop appropriating other people's culture. Create your own characters and stories.

@@Turin_the_Accursed i cant, gimme tolkein fo free