Getting a lot of crying from Rise of Skywalker Fans over my Star Wars Plotholes list. Perhaps I should change to "Top 13 Plotholes and 27 Stupidest Moments (that aren't necessarily massive plotholes but still go against canon & hurt the film)". Do you think that would help? Perhaps I should title it Top 40 Stupidest Moments?

“Who are you?” “I’m Rey” “Rey who?” “Rey’d Shadow Legends is one of the most ambitious RPG projects of 2019. Just look at the level of detail of these characters! If you use the code in the description you can start with 50,000 silver and join the Special Launch Tournament!”

Episode 8: Your parents were nobodies. Episode 9: Your parents were nobodies BUT your grandfather was an evil space wizard.

Vader: Kills millions of people. Luke: I know there is good in him, we must save him. ... Kylo: Has bad dream. Luke: I must murder him in his sleep

Finn was a stormtrooper and he didn't know they could fly? Really?!

All of these visual dictionaries remind me of something Joe said during his Destiny review: "If I have to go outside the game to understand the story, you have FAILED as a writer."

Qui Gon: "Force heal me Obi Wan" Obi Wan: "Sorry master we trained Jedi haven't learned that yet"

41: Kylo Ren kills his dad who was trying to save him from himself, kills his mom because she contacts him via “force ghost” which sacrifices herself to do so, tries to blow up his own master AND UNCLE because he was in his way and he ends up using all his power doing nothing and yet Kylo finally becomes good and sacrifices himself for good not because his dad, mom or uncle convinced him to but because of some random girl he met this one time and every time they cross paths they try to KILL EACH OTHER?!?!?!?!

Star Wars Theme: Be Proud of who you are.... unless your 1 person in your entire family is like REALLY bad, then just be proud of another family and pretend you are part of it.

Rumour has it that an after credit scene exists where it shows Kylo Rens lightsaber being pulled to someone’s hand and the next thing we hear is *”Fine, meesa do it myself”*

“There are at least 40 plot holes.” “I know, spooky right?”- JJ Abrams

Major plot hole i just discovered: If Palpatine broadcasted a message saying that in 16 hours he would wipe out the galaxy or whatever, why did General Hux need to betray the first order in order to get them that information? When it was broadcasting to the entire galaxy? Everyone already knew. The opening crawl said that the whole galaxy knew, but they said it was information they had to decode. They literally retconned their own movie in their movie.

My favorite part is that Rey says the knife has a long dark history WHILE SHE IS HOLDING THE LIGHTSABER THAT SLAUGHTERED UNTOLD AMOUNTS OF CHILDREN.

Stranger - who are you? *Jar Jar smiles at Rey* Rey, Rey Binks

Kylo ren: * uses force-heal to bring rey back from the DEAD * All of the people who died near jedis: ARE WE A JOKE TO YOU???

Han solo literally said: "Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova." When talking about hyperspace.

Best argument of those who love the new trilogy: "Well, if you just sit back and stare at the screen, not paying attention to what's actually happening, it's a pretty good movie. Idk why poeple don't like it"

Kylo: *uses force heal to bring Rey BACK TO LIFE* Kylo: *is dying* Rey: oh well

“REYYYY!” 75% of Fins’ lines in the movie

I'll just ignore this trilogy from being cannon.

For me, the mainline Star Wars movies end with Episode 6. Disney and those who worked on the final trilogy completely failed, leaving us fans disgusted and bored. You ruined your characters, destroyed your story, alienated your long-time fans, and left one of the most beloved series in history with an inane, nonsensical conclusion. I hope none of you have a hand in ANY Star Wars media going forwards.

“Who are you?” “Im Rey” “Rey who?” “Rey Mysterio”

Finn-"they fly now?" So you gonna act like you weren't a stormtrooper before? 😐

19:15 “In that case.....I am a Jedi.” -other Joe. “ oh cool!” -Alex “Thank you.” 😂😂😂 I love these guys so much.

A HUGE #41. For all of Palpatine's existence he has always lived by THE RULE OF TWO. A Master and an Apprentice. Continuing, Palpatine has always had someone UNDER him, an Apprentice or servant, but always keeping himself alive and at the top no matter what. From Darth Maul, to Dooku and Grevious, to Darth freaking Vader, they have everytime been there to serve him, specifically, with him being alive. Now here is the problem. Palpatine's goal is to get Rey to strike him down so his life force will live in her. WHAT THE F...? This contradicts Palpatine's entire entire life motivation. His goal wasn't to live on in someone else, his goal was to always be at the top, never die, and always have someone serving him, henceforth the rule of 2.

Lando: help Everyone: frick no they have like hundreds of portable death stars Lando: [Speech 100] pls Everyone: k

Anikan’s force ghost watching Rey use force heal: “Woooooowww”

Don’t forget that since Leia, Luke, and Ben were all Skywalkers, then they killed them all off, that means that there are no more Skywalkers in Star Wars. Thank you Disney, you killed off all of what the main movies in the other trilogies were about.

39. With the ghosts i would have been billions and billions of time more happy that Anakin's ghost fights Palpatine, wins and completes his legacy... Then the title rise of the Skywalker would have made sense.

It took 4 days to travel between Tatooine to Alderaan but the whole galaxy got to Exogol in an hour.

"You have to buy seven books for these movies to still not make sense" FTFY

plot hole master 43: Call the movie "Rise of Skywalker", kills ALL THE SKYWALKERS and let the last living PALPATINE took everything from them. Palpatine wins.

"32C. Luke and Lando couldn't see the Black Sand in the middle of a Brown sand area!" How would you expect Luke to have any idea what sand and deserts are like? He's from Tattooine!

#41: Palpatine: “if you kill me you’ll become the Sith!” Rey: “I won’t kill you!” *5 minutes later kills Palpatine but doesn’t become the Sith.* Guess he was just bluffing?

I could’ve tolerated a bad trilogy but they had to takeaway from the past trilogy by making Darth Vader’s sacrifice useless

The most DEFINITIVE indication you will EVER need that this is NOT star wars: They didn't have a funeral in the movie for Princess/General Lea. Even for a soulless corporate appliance like this that's COLD.

Remember, when you force heal someone. Yell from the top of your lungs, "SENZU BEAN"!

Force healing was the premise behind the entire reason anakin turns to the dark side. The ability to stop death. Rey does this on auto pilot.

Palpatines body remained 95% intact after getting nuked but was completely obliterated from sticking his fingers into a power outlet.

This sequel Trilogy is like my poorly thrown together D&D homebrew Campaign, except worse.

The Death Star was vaporised, so how come there were large parts of it sitting on a planet??

Alex had the perfect answer. Alex: "How did Maz get Luke's lightsaber?" Joe: "It was explained in a comic." Alex: "Who cares?" Just perfect. If you need a comic to explain your movie; your movie is trash.

Palatine didn't survive, George Lucas said so.

Anakin:" I need to figure out how to stop my wife's death im even willing to turn to the dark side" *Force healing exist and is easy to learn* Anakin:"Im gonna ignore that"

Number 18. I remember Lucas saying that Yoda learned from Qui Gon how to live through the force. He spent his time and Obi Wan's time in exile training Obi Wan to do the same. This took years. Because Qui Gon had trained for years, and hadn't trained enough to be a force ghost, but just a disembodied voice. Then when Anakin died, redeemed and having brought balance (yes, he DID bring balance, these movies are not canon to me), the combined efforts of Qui Gon, Obi Wan and Yoda came together to quickly speak to him as he died, and helped to pull him through so he could be around for Luke in the future. Because he had finally deserved it. And Luke deserved to have his dad around at last I guess. This was from Lucas himself. I think it was on the episode 3 extras if I remember right.

It's pretty insane that looking back, the Prequel Trilogy was actually fairly tight in terms of lore and timeline. Back then, people just thought the movies were kind of corny at worst.

Disappointing that the Knights of Ren were defeated in like one minute tbh what bs is that

When you realize that all of that MacGuffin hunting for the wayfinder could be avoided if Kylo Ren had just given Rey the coordinates to Exegol (or even his wayfinder at least) through their Force dyad conversations. But noooooo. Rey doesn’t want reach out Kylo’s hand and only Ben’s

In the Legends continuity, Force Heal doesn't actually bring people back from the dead. What it does is it ACCELERATES the body's healing processes, essentially, allowing the Force-user to "heal faster" than your average person. Also, it seems that Jar Jar Abrams has stolen another Force ability from Legends. This one is called Essence Transfer. In Legends, it was explained that in-order for a Dark Side-user to use this ability, their soul has to become a Dark Side entity. To do that, they must execute a ritual of Sith Magic which can consume the life-force of an entire planet. (it happened when an ancient Sith Lord called Darth Vitiate did it, he ascended into becoming a Dark Side entity) Once that is done, the Dark Sider-user can now use this ability to transfer their soul into any targeted body or perhaps linger on in space as a Dark Side entity while searching for a body to possess. When Darth Vitiate died, he transferred his soul into a guy named Valkorion who lived on the planet Zakuul (which is located at the very far end of the galaxy). Also, the whole idea of Darth Sidious cloning himself and using Essence Transfer to hop from clone body to clone body was literally stolen straight from the Dark Empire trilogy. God, this trilogy is full of stolen concepts. Even Johnson stole a few concepts from the KOTOR series. The sad part about all of this is that before the ST was even concluded, Disney canon's fans harped on about how Legends canon sucks and that they're "glad" it was decanonized so that new folks over at Lucasfilm can come up with better concepts or ideas. Hell, Kathleen Kennedy promised that this new continuity would be fresh and new. I used to agree with those people, but knowing how this trilogy ends now... I can say that I've completely switched sides. Disney canon is disappointing, Legends canon's fans were right but people made fun of them and called them gatekeepers. This continuity is literally rehashing the old one in a different way. Had I known this earlier, I would've supported Legends canon more. God, the SW fandom can be full of hypocritical idiots sometimes...

Joe: "why not put your essence into your son" In the backround: F.B.I. OPEN UP!!

Rian: Hey, remember that force sensitive kid with the broom? J.J: yeah, no...

If rey is dead, and kylo survives, i will accept this "rise of skywalker" more acceptable

Laughing my ass off every time Joe goes "Hellooo??!? Hellooo!??" xD

So you're telling me that the Resistance killed 290 million people in the final battle on Exogal

Old lady on tatooine: who are you? Rey: *looks off into the distance* Rey: Severus Albus Potter

"Why did the lightsaber call to Rey...?" Let's remember that weapon committed three acts of mass murder. Maybe it isn't the hero's weapon we were led to believe.

Another plot hole: How is Fin and the other rebels able to breath while on the exterior of the Star destroyer? Even if the planet had an oxygen rich atmosphere they were at a tremendous altitude... 🤷‍♂️

My favorite moment is when the emperor said “do it”

*Rise of Skywalker credits roll* *George Lucas* : “..Jar Jar ain’t so bad now lmfao”

I finally watched the film and turned it off with 20 minutes left after I saw palpatine use force lighting on hundreds of ships and did not destroy them when rey destroyed a ship earlier with her lighting.

In my opinion, Rey would have been a better character if they made her a clone that was originally planned to be a new and more powerful body for Palpatine. Her "parents" could have been a pair of scientists that grew a conscience and smuggled her away from Palpatine's watch. This fixes the whole her parents are nobody issue and her op force powers as she could have been flash trained while in the cloning vat. It would even tie into her "dark side cave" scene where she only sees herself. Also "Dark Rey" could have been another clone that she had to fight for real rather than that 30-second "fight" we actually got. It even makes her choice to be Rey Skywalker have more meaning as she literally had no family name.

Imagine if they had some balls and brought us Darth Jar Jar

Palpatine in the beggining : Kill Rey In the middle: Kill her or i kill you In the End: Thank God ALL my plans didnt work, you both alive, now im gonna rule again.

I have one thats always baffled me how come Palpy shoots that massive burst of force lightning right up into the atmosphere, and it immobilizes all of the Resistance ships, yet earlier on in the movie Rey accidentally shot a small burst of force lighting and that immediately blew up the First Order transport ship (she thought Chewie was on)??

Every time I hear Snoke In my head I hear “Snokey wants Smosh Smosh”

How did Palatine survive? Disney: yes

There's one you missed: Finn says that Endor is where the last war ended, even though it is established that the final battle of the Galactic Civil War was on Jakku... which is a planet and backstory that JJ Abrams HIMSELF CREATED.

The fact that AJ, OJ and Alex have officially dubbed Palpatine's absorb ability as "Force suck" is amazing. In going to call it that from now on

Finn - "They fly now?... Man, a lot has changed since I was a stormtrooper, all the years of training. Just didn't notice we had jetpacks during those years. I'm still kinda scared of weapons too and amazed at all the stuff the order has!"

Luke: take my fathers light sabre and destroy the sith like he did Rey: I will make him proud Luke: he also killed children with it

All the force ghosts when they saw force heal: Bruh

Now that we have every character being overpowered, we can bring Force Unleashed into the canon. At least the history and narrative are good.

27:19 *had me dying AJ 😂 because I thought the same thing why didn’t he just stop using his lightning attack.*

C3PO: Taking one last look sir… at my friends Me: Your friends?! This is the first movie we see you with them

Plot Hole: Disney Star Wars.

Dave Filoni has to come back and fix this like he usually does

Palpatine is old so he has lightning incontinence.

Also about plotholenumber one. In revenge of the sith when palpatine was telling Anakin about the "unnatural abilities" he clearly said in the story he told that it's possible to stop others from dying but you can't stop yourself from dying.

Fun fact: Did you know the sequel movies aren't cannon? Yeah they were actually written buy my little sister. THAT I JUST FLIPPIN MADE UP!!!!!!!!!

"Admiral Gender Studies"

Conclusion: The sequels aren’t canon.

"Palpatine powers up" Kylo- His power level is over 9000! Rey-I need your energy! (starts summoning spirit bomb) How is this not DragonBall?

I have another set of plot holes/stupid moments for you... You did say... How did that big piece of the Death Star survive but was it under water that whole time? Uunder water for over 30 years and no water got in and it didn't rust? First it was blown up ( some parts remained around Endor - seen it in Battlefront 2 ) but that big chunk was blown beyond Endor's gravity and kept flying until it hit some other moon/planet? It wouldn't be shielded so why didn't it burn up passing through that atmosphere or smash into the ground creating a massive explosion? Because it landed in water? That water would have to be as deep as a great ocean and even then the Death Star piece woulda superheated the water as it sunk to the bottom so it woulda been like hitting land anyway plus it woulda made a real big splash flooding the land. Most of all, everything in it woulda been broken on impact or tossed out in space as it flew to the next world or at the very least that stupid space map thing woulda fell over and not be in the very same place it was before so how could the knife line up perfectly to show where it is 30+ years later. Wouldn't water have gotten in the Death Star as the tides shifted and the space map get washed awaym? When was that knife made and by who? Why didn't Luke go to that Death Star chunk? Who made the space map devices and when? Was it before or after the battle of Endor? If the map was made before, why didn't Palpatine leave it in a safer place? How did he know the marks on the knife would still work years later? If the knife was made years later, after Endor, then why didn't Palps just send the map to people? Why make a knife only Sith could read? Sith is a dead/ancient language taught to Sith by other Sith. You don't get your language at birth, you have to lean it as you grow, from your parents talking to you and in school. Palpatine's child should have the Force. If Anakin's kids got it and Lia's kid got it then that means each generation gets it so Palps kid would get it.

The locals: You can't go. the waves are to violent. Rey: *is from a desert planet and has never sailed before* Hold my beer

The knights of Ren, what was the point of their existence?

Also, C3PO was a 2nd class citizen the entire movie and they missed a gem when in the rebel base telling Poe the odds... instead of "Never tell me the odds... "(a nod to Han Solo and C3PO) they went with "Shut up!". Also "My programming forbids me from translating Sith because of a forced plot device". So annoying how they did 3PO.

This trilogy is just getting worse and worse with age. It’s fascinating discussing it. It’s a direct contrast with marvel, which, say what you will about how formulaic they can be, were meticulously planned out over 25+ movies. Disney couldn’t plan just one trilogy, just THREE movies

I love how much Joe HATES this movie, its so intense. "The hate is strong with this one."

Another plot hole: Palpatines plan is for rey to kill him so he can possess her, which is exactly what she does and she doesn't get possessed

41. HOW DID PALPATINE GET LAID?!

"I identify as Jedi, and a Skywalker as well."- Ray whatever

Luke:”A Jedi weapon deserves more respect.” Also Luke *throws lightsaber across the shoulder. Make up ur mind dude

"the force unleashed is not canon because starkiller is too overpowered" also star wars "rey can revive anyone,emperor is zeus on crack"

Nice video Joe answering these questions has made me like the movie even more so far ima watch it again.

Also regarding #5 - I thought the tie fighters needed to stay in range of the fleet... all throughout all of the movies there are references to doing X or X being the case because of the tie figther's limited range.

If there has ever been an actual need to retcon something, the last 3 movies is evidence of that. "Then Luke woke from a particularly ravage fever dream..."

And fin was a former storm trooper why the hell is he suprised that they fly now

There was a comic that took place after Return of the Jedi where Palpatine was resurrected using cloning, and Luke destroyed ALL OF IT. ERADICATED ALL TRACES OF IT. They nuked the extended universe so they could copy a comic. Edit: It's called Dark Empire, and it came out in 1992.

I'm dying laughing at how ridiculous the plot holes are and the reactions. I feel like I'm listening to the banter from my friends about the film. I love this!!

"Death is a concept invented by the Jedi."