Me too haha! I think they would be proud of the monsters they've created 😂

Those two idiots ruined the best TV show on earth.

@@qaiwani Sorry to hear about David, my condolences. R.I.P My grandpa served in Korea 1950-1952 with PPCLI.

@@jamesglandon3737 Dave was a great guy, lived his life to the max, and helped others while doing so.

Yeah, they could finally understand it instead of being as confused as the audience.

No, my friend. You are in the flash sideways!

Aren't we all part of The Source's plan? ;) Thank you for the kind words.

A lot of times it wasn’t even an episode a week and there were gaps between episodes too it was brutal😂. It did lead to some insane discussions with every second of every episode analyzed during the gaps and season breaks.

Jacob came to her sometime in the mid to late 1980s. But Kate had already been on the island as a time travelling adult about a decade prior in 1977. Jacob knows this. He is fulfilling The Island's tapestry of time by selecting her as a candidate. Just like everyone else, Jacob is a slave to the time loop. The only difference is, he knows it.

I don't necessarily disagree with this idea. If Jacob (or any protector) could somehow keep people from coming across the cave of light then it is perfectly reasonable to assume that he could do the same with other sacred locations. But then why isn't this the case with the Temple? That was also a sacred place. I suppose we could make the argument that people only found it when they needed to. Personally, I always just accepted the fact that our Losties simply never came across the Lighthouse before. The Island was a very large place with lots of hidden nooks and crannies, and it is plausible that our Oceanic 815ers had only spent a few months in total there and had simply not explored every area. The Others were no doubt aware of its existence, just like they were with other so-called "ruins". DHARMA is less likely to have been aware of it, so therefore Sawyer's group would also not know about it. DHARMA were restricted by the truce with the natives on where they could explore and any sacred historical sites were probably off-limits. To me, it's plausible that our main characters never came across it. Although one wonders... had Sayid managed to avoid Rousseau's trap and successfully map the island in S1, just imagine what he would have found on his travels! Including the four-toed statue, the ferry dock, Hydra Island, etc.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 - it's definitely open to interpretation, but I feel like that episode (Lighthouse) went out of its way to imply that the Lighthouse should've been seen previously by the survivors. Firstly, the route that Jack and Hurley walked went past the cave, which suggests they're approximately in the corner of the Island where the main camp was, and also Jack expresses real surprise that none of them had previously spotted the Lighthouse - "How is it that we've never seen it before?". Those two things together convey the idea that it should have been seen, and it would've been relatively easy for the creators to stick the Lighthouse far from the Survivors camp to explain why it had stayed hidden. But it's probably not crucial to the plot - just something that makes sense to me.

@@drewc.4061 Yes, that is true. It does feel implied by the comments that Jack and Hurley make, and the geography of the location being so close to familiar territory. I don't know if I subscribe to it fully, but it's totally possible within the logic of the show.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 - related to the video, but a change of subject. If we accept the idea, proposed by you here, that Jacob "touched" Hurley very late in order that Hugo could "fly under the MIB's radar", does that provide the kiss of death to the theory that "Dave" on the Island was the MIB trying to kill Hugo? After all, if the MIB didn't view Hugo as a candidate, he would have simply tried to kill him directly, Eko style. And if he found that he was not allowed to kill him that way, he would've figured out Hugo's true nature as a candidate. I've never thought that Dave was the MIB anyway, but it remains quite a popular idea throughout the LOST fandom. Thoughts?

@@drewc.4061 Hmm, I don't know if it cancels that idea out entirely. It is alluded to that the Man in Black has been watching the Oceanic 815ers from the jungle, perhaps in various guises and forms. I am of the school of thought that believes MiB was Sawyer's boar, which means he could have also possibly been Kate's horse, Hurley's bird, and even Mikhail's cat. It would have been a way to observe and study candidates as well as size up who might be useful and who might be a threat, etc. Therefore, he could have observed Hurley and viewed him as an easy target. If Hurley killed himself, that would have delivered a crushing blow to the morale of the camp in a way other deaths would not have. Sure, slaughtering Hurley would be easy, but the idea that the most positive, optimistic member of these survivors commits suicide is soul crushing. That said, Dave is intentionally an ambiguous apparition. And I think you can absolutely take him simply as Hurley's guilty subconscious manifesting itself. That makes sense to me too and is certainly a cleaner explanation. The same ambiguity surrounds Emily Linus' appearances. She could well be the Man in Black (although we have to theory craft in order to explain away the logistics of that) but the most likely option is that she really is the ghost of Emily. I like to leave these appearances as open to being either/or because it enriches repeat viewings. I flip-flop between possibilities. Even Kate's horse, which I mostly believe to just be a horse, sometimes makes me question its legitimacy. These ambiguous appearances by creatures great and small can be appropriated as part of the MiB mythology, or simply seen on their own terms.

He would be able to leave the island before he became smoke monster, but Mother stops him and destroys his progress in finding a way out and destroys the village. After he kills Mother and Jacob revenges, he is pushed into the source and turned to smoke monster. After that it is essential that he remains on the island for the entire existence of the world. Cause he can only leave now if the source is turned off which will result in the end of the world. Hope this clears it up :)

@@olemartinjansson2242 Not quite. I think Jacob realized how much he lost his humanity, (or as the author might say, his light) and the contempt MiB felt for them. If he left, he would have kept his powers and likely given in to a murder spree until he destroyed the human race.

That's an interesting suggestion to do a video on the Blast Door Map. I had never really considered going in-depth on that. I'll have a think about it to see if I have any fresh insights worth sharing. As for the underground tunnels, I will be touching upon this in my chapter on the Egyptians in a couple of weeks. But to answer your question: yes. They built the tunnels and the summoning chamber (which might even predate the temple itself). Keep an eye out for the Egyptians video as it will explain a lot of this.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 if you really dissect that map it was THE Easter egg setups for Seasons 5-6. Season 5 plot circles back to most of the Season 2 storylines with the Dharma Initiative and the final season circles right back to Season 1.

@@TJMalana Agreed.

While it remains open to speculation as to whether or not the cave was Jacob or MiB's place, the list would have mirrored the Lighthouse list either way including which names were crossed off and which were not. It is the exact same list copied from the Lighthouse. Jacob's reason for crossing off Kate's name was not really about her being a mother. We know this because it did not prevent Sun and Jin from being crossed off the list, even though they had recently become parents too. Once someone is a candidate, they are a candidate until they either die or someone else accepts the position. Jacob says: "It's just a line of chalk on a wall. The job is yours if you want it, Kate." Which means Kate was still a candidate regardless of her name being crossed off. Which leads me to believe that the real reason why Jacob crossed off Kate's name was to throw off the Man in Black. Consider this. If Jacob has two lists -- the lighthouse and the cave -- then perhaps the Man in Black was *supposed* to find the cave. Jacob wanted him to keep track of the candidates in any case. When MiB saw Kate's name crossed out on the dial/wall that set him at ease about Kate's importance. He could use her to draw the other candidates in but she wasn't a threat to him anymore. However, what do we know about Kate's destiny that made her so important in the endgame? She is the one who delivers the fatal shot to the Man in Black in 'The End'. Her name being crossed off meant that MiB never saw her coming. Jacob sensed this and concealed her MVP status.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I really like your idea about why Kate was crossed out.

Yes, our conversation definitely inspired this video! I had no intention of making a whole chapter about the rules or the candidates specifically because I touch upon those ideas in general in other chapters. But during our back and forth I realised how much more there was to elaborate on. Especially in terms of determinism and how that informs Jacob and, well, everything. Several videos have been inspired from conversations I have had on here. There are two coming up that address long running debates I keep having with people on both the Egyptians and Mother, so I'm looking forward to sharing those. Thanks for watching and continuing to engage! :)

Yes, I don't like determinism for everyone too. Clearly there has to be rules, like Pierre Chang said, but could there be a couple people who have awareness outside the time loop? We saw Desmond and Eloise are outside of the normal rules of time, perhaps Jacob and MiB are too? That is, MiB conceives the idea of a time loop, and goes to a lot of trouble to make sure it happens, which Jacob allows. But then they are both caught up in it, and have to play their parts. I'm thinking of the compass not having a beginning or ending, because it just cycles through, perhaps getting a little more beat up each time, but it must have had an origin outside it? So it's possible Jacob and MiB have some awareness of "before" the latter set things in motion?

Wow, thank you for the offer. I'm not sure about starting a Patreon yet but it might be something on the horizon.

I 2nd that.

Well, we see Jacob touch both Sun *and* Jin, and it follows Jin telling Sun that being apart from her would be like the earth being apart from the sky. In other words, their bond is so deep that he sees them as being one. Hence, why when she dies, he dies with her. Jacob touched them both to act as a *unit*. The idea that Ji Yeon was the true candidate means that she would have been drawn back to the Island as a result (possibly coming with her mother) because all the final candidates were drawn back for the endgame, including Locke. In 'What They Died For', Kate directly asks Jacob: "Sun and Jin Kwon and Sayid Jarrah, you wrote their names on the wall?" And Jacob responds: "Yes."

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Wow! So it was Sun and Jin as a unit. Thank you so much!

Please watch Chapter 25 on "Moving the Island", which goes into detail on the way the wheel works: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/laugmJdzl9G-dqM.html

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 will do I really appreciate your work on this channel by the way!

1. There are clear hieroglyphs in the Lighthouse, and on many of the old structures (like the temple, summoning chamber, underground tunnels, etc). I am making a video that will explain the Egyptians in full. Should be released in a couple of weeks. I keep having debates with people about the chronology of the Egyptians (and what they built) and I felt like there is a definitive, knowable timeline presented in the show in drips and drabs, but it takes elaborate explanation. So, hopefully the video will cover this ground for you as well. 2. I had a conversation just the other day with a very smart subscriber (Drew C.) who posited the theory that the lighthouse was kept hidden from people in the same way the cave of light was kept hidden from people. The Protector was shown to have a power like this, so it is a solid theory. Here's what I said on the matter: Personally, I always just accepted the fact that our Losties simply never came across the Lighthouse before. The Island was a very large place with lots of hidden nooks and crannies, and it is plausible that our Oceanic 815ers had only spent a few months in total there and had simply not explored every area. The Others were no doubt aware of its existence, just like they were with other so-called "ruins". DHARMA is less likely to have been aware of it, so therefore Sawyer's group would also not know about it. DHARMA were restricted by the truce with the natives on where they could explore and any sacred historical sites were probably off-limits. To me, it's plausible that our main characters never came across it.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 thanks for the quick response! Looking forward to the next video

I will be addressing this (to some extent) on an upcoming video all about the Egyptians and when the timeline of 'Across the Sea' is taking place. Jacob and the Man in Black were born roughly two thousand years ago.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Too bad Richard ("Ricardus") wasn't born around the time of the fall of Rome. Maybe they looked at the budget for a Roman ship and costumes and just decided to reuse the Black Rock.

It’s the start of the numbers being relevant to Jacob but the numbers have always been weaved in throughout the LOST universe since the beginning of time. It’s the numerical pattern of destiny.

According to screen grabs from the show (and Lostpedia), the name at 108 was "Wallace". A character and candidate that we never met. Jack and Hurley likely would not have seen anything at 108 because the mirrors only reflected active/alive candidates. Notice how the mirrors were normal when passing over dead candidate names, because the link between them and the island had been broken in death. Jacob gave Hurley the instructions to start at 108 knowing that Jack would look for his own name on the dial. Jacob didn't need to tell them exactly what to do, only give them a push towards figuring it out for themselves. And they did.

i always thought 108 was Desmond, he is the lighthouse in the other reality

My feeling was that candidate 108 was a backup in case all the others failed. It would make sense if Wallace was a fake name to hide the true identity of a "failsafe" from MiB. Though MiB might not have visited the lighthouse, he could have figured out there were 360 numbers, and might have noticed if 108 was missing. It looked like they got everyone who left the island to come back on Ajira 316, but Walt didn't make it, because Locke didn't want to bring the kid back; "the boy's been through a lot." Supposedly, not getting everyone upset their return, but determinism for the time loop says, what happened was meant to happen, and I'm about to stop caring again.

We would need to ask the props department ;)

Yes, the house in the mirrors was the location of where Sun and Jin got married. The same place that Jacob appeared at to “bless” them both. Remember that he touches both of them at the same time and says that their love is a very special thing. They were jointly candidate 42. Jacob viewed them as two halves of the same person. Like Jin said to Sun in his vows: “being apart from you would be like the earth being apart from the sky”. And Jacob treated them as one.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I like the idea that it guides him to where he needs to teleport, since the outside world is a lot larger than the island, where MiB teleports around. But I don't think it's necessary for him to use it, though we can't be sure since we haven't seen him in action, like appearing outside someone's home in the mirror then returning to the island from that point.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 That's a great perspective. My thought was that he watched the candidates from young age though. Which would make Sun the candidates since Jin didn't meet her until the were adults!

In an ideal fantasy world, I would love to write a one-off revival series.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Ik, you should try getting in to supernatural. I’m sure you’ve heard or seen clips of it by now, there’s 15 seasons n it came out a year after Lost did. Idk, just a suggestion matey lmk what u think..

The Island influences events and people's paths, and Jacob serves its will. Most of the time he stays out of the way, but sometimes he directly interjects and tells someone what they need to do (as with Hurley on several occasions) and other times he sets up the circumstances in which certain outcomes will be achieved (by getting The Others to build the runway on Hydra Island in 2004 so Ajira can land on it in 2007). He's like Santa's Little Helper lol.

The most likely answer is that the voice on the intercom was the real Christian Shepherd breaking through to Jack from The Source. We know ghosts can communicate to the living through various mediums. Jack is shown to have psychic sensitivity because he is a predestined island protector. We see this demonstrated again in S4 when he literally sees the ghost of his father at the hospital. But Jack chooses to write off his feelings and visions as hallucinations and psychosis, so he self-medicates to suppress the power.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 thank you so much

I'm not very au fait with discord and how it works. I'm kind of an analogue guy in a digital world lol. KZfaq is about my speed. But I'm very pleased to see a community springing up around the videos and creating discussions and interactions. That's great! And I'm always happy to hear ideas for videos in the comments on here.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 well if you change your mind, I'm sure somebody from the community will help you set up a discord server and explain how to use it :)

The time travel is to ensure that the past happens so the world does not end (if our Losties don't travel back to 1977 and set off Jughead, The Incident would have destroyed The Island and then the planet). I explain this all in Chapter Three on "The Time Loop".

I answer these questions to some extent in Chapter Thirteen on 'The Sickness'.

No external website or transcripts. Just the videos on KZfaq. They all come with subtitles.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Thank you..💙 That's enough.. Just asking

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 how do you came up with all of this?!

A lot of time and thought lol.

They mostly stuck to their beach, the hatch, the barracks, and the jungle. No one walked the whole coast of the island, which happens to be a pretty big place. I don’t think the characters never having come across the lighthouse is the most far fetched plot element of the show lol.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 the Volkswagen bug then. How did Hurley find it not too far from their beach yet they rolled it down a super tall hill to jump start it?

Well the island is a volcanic formation with peaks and valleys of all kinds. The beach leads into jungle and the jungle can lead to hills and valleys. I’ll admit that the geography of locations on the show is often spotty and unclear but this particular one didn’t bother me too much. I understand that certain aspects of the show don’t always cohere as a result of continuity and production issues. We have to suspend our disbelief in some cases.

The lighthouse is hidden by an electromagnetic barrier, which the protector of the island has the power to control. Just like the entire island is hidden by an electromagnetic barrier, the lighthouse and the source is hidden by that same power.

I also wanna know why claire never moved through time...is it because she was in contact with the MIB?... also how close was Daniel healed in proximity of the island? Was is immediately after getting to the island or was it on the ship. He clearly had feelings for Charlotte when we first saw him arrive but had very little memory before he left for the island

Also did daniel realize immediately after eloise shot him that his plan wasnt gonna work with the bomb? Cause the only reason he went to find her before he was shotnby her was to retrieve the bomb??? And he still told Child Charlotte not to come back.

If there was no electromagnetic energy underneath The Island, the world and every living thing would not exist. The light *is* creation itself. Please watch all the videos in this series as I explain this in detail.

The Egyptians. There are hieroglyphics in the tower at the top.

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 that would’ve made for an interesting episode! How does one even come up with this technology?

Thanks for sharing. I have actually completed the video already. Lost Encyclopaedia is a tough one for me. On the one hand, it makes some good deductions and clarifies plot details in a coherent way. On the other hand, it gets some really basic details wrong and makes suppositions that I don't agree with at all. It's a controversial book in the fandom for its errors, and I haven't lifted any information from it because I don't consider it a reliable source, especially when it theory crafts the history of things like this. I disagree with their take on this issue anyway. The Lighthouse was built by the Egyptians originally, by all appearances, to simply be a lighthouse. The brazier bowl was their version of a light to signal ships. It wasn't to warn off other ships or travellers. That's not what a lighthouse does. It was to help bring others to the island, which we know is something that Jacob wanted. The compass dial and the mirrors aren't as old as the lighthouse structure, and the dial's engineering is definitely closer to that of 19th century invention. So, my reading of the lighthouse is at odds with the Encyclopaedia's entry in these ways. The compass dial was installed at a very specific point in time. Jacob was not searching for literal replacements until after 1867 (Richard's arrival). But I shall get into that more in the video. I appreciate you sharing with me relevant sources all the same! Much appreciated :)

All of Jacob’s powers come from the light. The light operates independent of him. It literally moves people through time and space without the need for Jacob to do anything. The Island aka The Source is demonstrated to be its own entity and a prime mover of events throughout the series. Jacob was its emissary.

​@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Yes, his powers come from the magical light. We agree on that. Thats why he has connection to that power But everything else I always seen differently. The light itself isn't sentient, those are just pockets of pure unknown energy, most likely different kinds of energies (and different people tries to study it, Egyptians, dharma). U think the pocket of energy in Australia was also sentient? A different kind of god-like creature? or the same one? If the island could move itself on its own, it wouldn't need people to spin the wheel. I always seen "the island" in the same way as the universe when it tries to self current itself (cause whatever happens happens, if u save soemoene, he still gonna die). I always seen it as a natural rule of the universe, something to prevent paradoxes. Same when they get snapped back to their own time, it was just the universe self correcting itself. But your interpretations are also pretty interesting. Even years after the show we still can have cool conversations about it.

All of those pockets are arteries of the same light source. Think of it like a living organism with a heart (the island) and organs (the other energy points around the world) with veins of light connecting them all together. The island does move on its own, remember? The wheel is just the man made way of making it move but the island is always moving across those energy pockets in the ocean. This is confirmed in the show itself. The island is always moving location independent of the wheel. Further to this point about sentience, the island chooses who it will and who it will not heal. It heals Rose’s cancer but not Ben’s. It also brought people to its shore without protectors for a long time. Mother didn’t want anyone on the island, yet the island brought Claudia’s people to her. Same with Richard Alpert. It also communicates with people like Locke and Desmond, guiding them with flashes and visions. And it speaks to characters, giving them an intuition as to what they need to do and where they need to be. Both Jacob and the Man in Black demonstrate this ability several times. We even have characters frequently refer to The Island as its own entity. “Is that what The Island wants?” “The Island wanted me to get sick. And it wanted you to get well.” “The Island needs you.” Over and over again, people refer to the island as a separate entity to Jacob. And the writers themselves even imply this fact in their commentary for ‘Across the Sea’ in which they say: “The Island is alive.” I absolutely agree that we can have lots of cool conversations about the show years later. It’s a testament to how much detail and imagination was put into the mythology. Hence why my channel exists. Still so much to explore and discuss.