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Same goes for his other popular lecture video on songwriting

Yeah also what he said about technology killing the business first. Which is what streaming has clearly done now.

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+Chris Boylan lmao!

award winning

Apparently not Larry Bird, funny one.

Cmon man I’m tryin to concentrate on being a serious producer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dang he is a legend

Also, consider a song like Smooth Criminal. Why was that song so well received and memorable, if the only purpose of music is to sell to women? Putting the listener in a murder victim role? It’s just a cool song, you don’t need to put yourself in it to appreciate it. And songs about non-hetero relationships? I think there’s a lot more to making music than us suggested in these vids, imho.

@@greablood1072 as in almost everything rules change or expand a bit over time and there are always exceptions to rules. And all of his insights are for a very specific form of music. You don't have to follow all of his advices if you are doing alternative, dark, non-pop-genre or artsy music. Lots of very big metal bands for example probably became successful with almost no female fans. It's great to keep what works for your workflow. Just discard what feels unnatural to your form of music. For every rule there are dozens of artists who became successful not following it. Chill 😄

Fair 🧘

You shouldnt be so dogmatic about peoples advice. Everyones demographics are different, take of it what works for you and ignore the rest.

You can find a lot more here on KZfaq, help yourself.

sly mongoose damn!! That's insane. 1 mill a week?! lol haha Quincy is the man. But when you think about it piracy and file sharing wasn't a thing back then. I'm almost sure 20/20 Experience would've sold close to that if that didn't exist. haha.

+Brandon Thomas PIRACY HAS ALWAYS BEEN "A THING".....why do you think DJ's back then used to talk all over the intros and outros of songs....i can remember a friend of mine "loaning" me a tape cassette recording of the charts when FOREIGNER's No.1 hit "I WANNA KNOW WHAT LOVE IS", hit the No.1 spot. I played it over and over so much with DJ Kid Jensen's voice booming out the words "SOMEBODY HELP THAT GUY" over the top of it that eventually it became part of the song in my mind...when i finally bought the song i barely recognised it as Kid Jensen's voice was missing and a bloody beautiful gospel choir(which weren't on the radio edit and yet had featured on the original...in other words, not only were the DJ's told to natter on all over the song but they only played three quarters of it.....guessing nobody will EVER know true sales as Joe Public seems to happily steal folk's livings when it comes to music....NOT ALL OF THEM DO THOUGH...and those folk support future songwriters....TRY HOLDING DOWN A REGULAR JOB AND WRITING SONGS..not easy. Mike Rosenberg(PASSENGER) said on a youtube film recently that the very moment he was able to pack in a Bar job and focus on writing(despite having less income), that, right there was the very moment that his songwriting escalated....now the dude is prolific. I'm a songwriter now(well, i write songs anyway...as Ralph Murphy would say to me) and it's damned hard to make a living.....come to think of it, i'd have probably packed it in by now if i didn't love and enjoy doing it. SUPPORT ARTISTS AND SONGWRITERS.....if there is to be a future in original songs. I've been paid for many jobs over the years and if anyone stole money from my wage packet i know how i'd feel. I'd probably leave the company.....NUFF SAID....for the love of music SONGWRITERS should be paid and supported....Just an opinion.

+SONIC FOXX MUSIC...(D.N.A... Developing New Artists) wooow!! And the funny thing is, I notice that with most songs too!

sly mongoose He had every star in music on that record. probably will never happen again.

ohhh poor baby, you have to do a little work asking yourself what has changed and what hasn't, figure out what's essential and time-transcendent in his wisdom, then adapt his wisdom to what's happening now (which is 8 years after you posted lol)

SONIC FOXX MUSIC...(D.N.A... Developing New Artists) Thanks for posting. It's obvious that most of the people who are commenting here are legally brain dead. They already know it all!

Hey motorcop505...GOTCHA vibe...appreciate your comment. Ralph is a great guy and of late has advised me personally in areas of my lyric writing which has made my lyrics stronger and more powerful than they ever were...one tip which he has spoken about on here is swapping verse 1 for verse 2 and vice-versa....and wouldn't you just know it....i grabbed 100 pieces of work i had penned recently and every last one was improved by that one tip....UNBELIEVABLE. When i read down through his comment sections, the one thing which comes over to me time and time again are negative comments or questioning comments from folk about writing for "commercial purposes to hit a no.1(or get you in the running)" up against writing for "artistic reasons" and i have a simple answer to solve arguments.....DO BOTH...it's not rocket science. I've co-written songs with folk who have shown fear at the last minute and "pulled", leaving those songs(half my creation) sitting on a shelf. I have 17 with one guy...and many more besides which may never see the light of day....kinda makes me think if i suddenly hit a No.1...will those dudes come running??? Problem is, most of those songs sitting on shelves have NEVER had the "RALPH MURPHY solid commercial advice" shot inside of them...possibly meaning that they would NEVER make a No.1 anyway. If i'm honest(and i try to be), Ralph Murphy generously opened my mind and my eyes...but i'm the only one who could use them both....in the U.K. we'd most probably have KNIGHTED this man by now for "services to commercial creation"....come to think of it..he was actually born in BRITAIN...so if i ever hit that No.1...i think i'll push for that Knighthood for him!!!!!...or just damned well do it anyway for the generous time he has gifted me for actually understanding him, listening to him and not questioning his reasoning regarding changes and adaption of songs which need his advice on them to make them more commercially viable. Regards, Sonic Foxx.

your argument doesnt stand....because people are listening to music which is trash substance wise AND sonically

Pasha Sheik Official I'm not talking about the sonic aspect, but the compositional. people are thinking at present, just on a low level. I'm talking about trans-rational, the state of being above rationality. Sonic refers to sound quality. A song can be great sonically and still be garbage compositionally. Unfortunately, it's a reality that you won't believe exists. Fortunately it exists without your belief and I'll never convince you of its reality, if you don't innately possess it. It has zero to do with intelligence, just as the perception of physical beauty has nothing to do with intelligence, and please don't say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". It isn't.

cobalt jones ill agree with this.....but the thing is the sonic aspect is the foundation of quality music....it doesnt matter how great you are at building a house....if you start with a flimsy foundation youll end up with a house coming down on your head. plus even though ill say the composers of today are better than the ones of the 90s, they still cant touch the compositions of the baroque and classical era

Pasha Sheik Official If I understand you, you mean the sound quality, and you're correct. If the quality isn't happening sonically, it tends to negate the whole. I also agree that the ancient composers are far superior to what is happening today. The way of measuring a song, is to ask yourself, "if this song were sung in a Foreign language, would it still hold my interest?". Thinking about the words isn't wrong, it's just not essential. when it becomes essential, we're living in a mommy culture, and that's what our friend Ralph here has attached himself to, to the detriment of young impressionable minds.

i need tips kik me Trooper_47

Just8notes Check out ASCAP. He might be listed through them.

Bozekus Music He has a book, Murphy's rules of songwriting, I think. Check out Amazon or Half.com for it.

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+Megan Bennett..... I'm sure you don't(i could stand corrected though).....i can hold a tune(enough to get a melody over) and i don't play an instrument.... but i co-write and farm lyrics(prolific at those) and occasionally, full songs out to singers who are good singers but who struggle to write.....and i love writing with unknowns...to see them discovered is an awesome thing to be part of. ...and anyway you can always learn to play an instrument(or get friendly with guitar/piano players)....it's all about creation. I also have a massive influence on the direction of our songs...and now run a small label(SONIC FOXX MUSIC..Developing new Artists)....google Jasmine Lamport....i penned the lyrics, Jasmine sang the songs and wrote the melodies...and we worked together on Production with a fab Producer who allowed us to roam free(Creatively speaking)..Jasmine is currently on a course for Music Production in Bristol, England(sponsored by Midge Ure of Ultravox if my memory serves me right)....JUST GO FOR IT Megan..... P.S. Your question is not a stupid question by the way...it's a sensible one!!...good luck.

To go to school for it? It would help. But look at all the popular "producers" and "DJs". Many don't know a G string from a thong.

Finding this comment late but it made me realize, I had a DVD documentary on Dark Side years ago and they specifically worked to get a big hit from that according to the interviews. Turned out it was the song “Money”. The success of a few singles then went on to fund and allow the more artistic work later on. They had several albums before then with a more artistic bent but hadn’t really had a big hit yet until then. If it wasn’t for the commercial success we might not have had the full “Wall” concept album a few years later, which was a album, big stage show, and a full-length movie, etc.

you left out the pivotal word. hope you're not your own lyricist lol

That's a valid question. Ralph is talking about writing pop&country *HIT* songs for "artists" who are trying to look good to 'sober women sitting in morning traffic'. I'd bet that Metallica's fan base leans heavily male. Maybe Hetfield should give the lecture on why that is.

Niches will always exist. Ralph is explaining here how to produce big money makers, not niche music. There are always going to be exceptions, and not every song on any given album is a hit, but if you want to last in the business you need to produce hits (or have a ton of money to begin with, but that won't make you good).

Zackary Meadows This is about how to write music as a professional. People don't give a shit about you. Get over yourself. If you want to write hit songs, listen to an expert on writing them.

"Generic" but "successful". He talks with the sole purpose of describing analysis of #1 songs.

you're just discovering that? You have to make a YT comment to explicate that to your consciousness, and you think others don't know this very basic rule of using thought to gauge reality? IOW you thought every statement that has SOME truth in it, and therefore is useful, has no exceptions?? mmmmmkay, that's pretty childish or unintelligent

btw i love twenty one pilots

detail, humor...

This guy is a songwriter. That’s different from an artist or singer/songwriter.

@Durp Dog kinda like that but it's a Sunday