Outlaws of Thunder Junction Set Review Part 2 || North 100 Ep161

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Ай бұрын

Serge and Wheeler dive into the world of cowboy Magic to see what Outlaws of Thunder Junction, specially Red and Green cards have to offer the Canadian Highlander format.
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@bkpally Ай бұрын

The people cry out for Nelly to be brought back to the podcast

@gregoryvalerio8468 Ай бұрын

Strong agree. Also, where's Alex?

@Jedicake Ай бұрын

Nelson joining was possibly the best decision they've ever done. I need a representative for trashy mono Black cards

@asteros6387 Ай бұрын

the way serge played off not knowing what the lizard did was impeccable

@EricChoiniere Ай бұрын

Serge's comment about 1 MV vs 2 MV makes sense when you consider that with 3 mana you can cast three 1 MV spells, but only one 2 MV spell

@spiffinn_music_lists Ай бұрын

It feels like Serge misread magebane lizard given that he compared it to pyromancer ascension. it's a hate piece, not a storm payoff.

@ChiralWolf Ай бұрын

and thing in the ice, definitely was thinking about it as a payoff for casting your spells

@jeffreycarey1641 Ай бұрын

You can see the exact moment he realizes something is off shortly after Wheeler mentions Eidolon of the Great Revels. It's a little after that, that he asks if it's good into eggs.

@MentallyLatent Ай бұрын

He 100% did lol

@PoopOnThe2nd Ай бұрын

"does this hose eggs?" "...Next card" LMAO

@JWorthy30 Ай бұрын

I was not ready for “Dilt Bifferently” at 38:00 😂

@moderncrusader47 Ай бұрын

Me neither 😭

@t_s_albatross3270 Ай бұрын

26:16 That card is Back for Seconds and it can be used to get back a Sheoldred lol

@AutkastKain Ай бұрын

Thanks for having this, I do wish Nelly will stay.

@sampiaggio9534 Ай бұрын

Whenever Nelly’s not on screen, everyone else should be asking, “Where’s Nelly?”

@aethertag1530 Ай бұрын

Nelson may have defended a bad black card but at least he remembered that 4 mana clones existed

@Ariamaki Ай бұрын

Siege Veteran "little bit of an older one" > The Brothers' War SERGE THAT WAS SEVENTEEN MONTHS AGO. THAT WAS LESS THAN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. THAT IS NOT AN OLDER ONE BY ANY HUMAN DEFINITION!!!

@Mordalon Ай бұрын

Just in the last part he said Elite Spellbinder was "a couple sets ago" when it was even older than Brothers' War.

@BasketOfPuppies642 Ай бұрын

I'm surprised that they didn't mention Roast when talking about Scorching Shot. It's the first parallel I drew.

@t_s_albatross3270 Ай бұрын

35:34 Having the new deserts is technically a wincon if you get the fastbond + crucible + courser combo, but if you’re at that point I’m not sure how much that matters

@jgmweston Ай бұрын

Serge you can't say Brother's War is an older set I'm crumbling to dust here.

@t_s_albatross3270 Ай бұрын

Magda giving you a treasure off of criming means that stuff like Gitaxian Probe is technically ramp. If it’s not in blue moon I will be surprised.

@kinaantaha139 Ай бұрын

Something I wish they’d mentioned is that the storm wizard can cut your storm requirement in half if your tendrils is your next spell

@LairScavenger Ай бұрын

Oh yeah! To Tendrils them from 20, Crackling Spellslinger is basically four spells in a trenchcoat. To Grapeshot, it's a nine-in-one! Neat.

@TerryByte Ай бұрын

We demand 2 Nellies for next podcast as compensation

@PantherAssaultCannon Ай бұрын

"This is a 4 mana 5/5 with trample, why does it have extra abilities! What power creep" minutes later "I'm pretty medium on this 4 mana 6/5 with trample, I don't know if the extra abilities really make it worthwhile, but it's not embarrassing" Really showing how much a situational bonus ability will taint the evaluation of a card, even by seasoned players.

@ZephyrKelsey Ай бұрын

Making 2 food and having huge card selection on attack is so much more impactful than a bonus power. Yes the 6/5 for 4 with upsides is pushed and will win games just on the nature of being big, but in comparison to the efficiency of other threats and removal in the format just being big isn’t as powerful.

@ryans.3852 Ай бұрын

Typical underestimating "big" and overestimating "big" ahahah 😂

@Mordalon Ай бұрын

The classic examples I think of are the Invokers, fairly costed creatures by themselves with absurdly expensive activated abilities. People see abilities that might not come up and think the whole card is bad.

@Mordalon Ай бұрын

@@ZephyrKelsey Their point is that Serge and Ben were talking as if the stats alone for the Farmer would be enough, that the 2 foods and card selection wouldn't need to be there to make it great.

@smilelydude8079 Ай бұрын

Yes but you do get the food with no hoops to jump through apposed to having to have a specific land type in play so it gains flash, bit of a difference on power levels of abilities as well tbh

@callumvlex7059 Ай бұрын

The reason that 2 mana feel like 2.5 is that you spend 2 on turn 2 *and* can't cast it on turn 1, so sometimes it also wastes a 3rd mana

@theimmortalleanwalker1307 Ай бұрын

Could I ask about harvester of misery? Just seems useful idk

@tsuhyoshi Ай бұрын

in my opinion one of the best parts about crackling spellslinger is that you can cast it on your opponents turn after they popped off

@sandmanlives3 Ай бұрын

Excellent, as always. Thank you. I miss Nelly and his take on things.

@AutkastKain Ай бұрын

54:11 Serge's comment followed by Ben's insult of "Who's your commander again?" was way too savage

@courtsquier40138 Ай бұрын

I came here for the Slickshot Show-Off hype party for my RDW deck.

@JamiesonLock Ай бұрын

I get the feeling Serge thought Magebane Lizard pinged your opponent when you cast spells and then realised half-way through that it isn't for the spellslinger deck (comparison to Thing in the Ice) and pivoted to realising it's for playing against the spellslinging deck.

@NarcoticIsland Ай бұрын

Sure, Wheeler is good daddy representation but Nelson is good dad representation. There's room for both

@whatwayzup 21 күн бұрын

Aloe Alchemist has been cleaning up for me in Duel Commander, I'm looking forward to trying it out in Canlander.

@CrazySliver75 Ай бұрын

For me Colossal rattlewurm is the exact opposite of how they talked about it: I don't care about the body, I just think about looping life from the loam and still being able to cast a rampant growth I dredged into the yard

@MentallyLatent Ай бұрын

Aggro loam sounds super dope holy moly, I might brew up a modern deck in similar style to play vs my friend

@Mordalon Ай бұрын

With the Vaultborn Tyrant, I was curious if the token being an Artifact was at all relevant when considering what kinds of decks it could go into.

@Halinn Ай бұрын

I think Nelly should be given at least one more chance to be on the podcast in the future.

@TheIrishJackel Ай бұрын

No mention of Generous Plunderer? I'm not 100% certain it's good enough, but I'm definitely going to be trying it since the treasure production is a "may".

@nivmizzet2022 Ай бұрын

I have already cast berserk on Slickshot Showoff in playtesting. The thing punches a holes in your opponent out of nowhere

@PieBandit Ай бұрын

Do it do it do it do it. Do it all. Top priorities: tainted cycle and riftstone portal

@HopefulAgnostic Ай бұрын

Railway Brawler into Stingerback Terror makes it a 14/14 Railway Brawler into Questing Beast makes it an 8/8 Railway Brawler is insane.

@598019001 Ай бұрын

Personally, I think Railway brawler works better with cards like the Hydra, Krasus or Walking Ballista. The X/X's that come in with tokens? If you plot it you can combined the Brawler with an X/X and Effectivly double your tokens, On a Haste minion, that feels like a finisher.

@ukaszbylica3261 Ай бұрын

The moment of hesitation around Magebane Lizard's name reminded me of back when Megantic Sliver was the launch promo for M14 and I referred to it as Magnetic Sliver (because of course it is, why would any sliver not want the +3/+3 buff?). This one guy was not having it and kept correcting me.

@alexrodriguez-jf9rp Ай бұрын

hope all is well with nelsons family!

@RiverFlows-ky9xj Ай бұрын

As a lover of black cards and highlighting good clean magic, bring that Nelly back!

@danielgamboa6130 Ай бұрын

10:41 would there be a strawberry shortcake strategy this could fit in? Strawberry is an old legacy archetype that leverages magus of the moon/trinisphere but also painters servant grindstone Boros strategy, could this describe a strategy that exists or is it unexplored?

@tenstorme426 Ай бұрын

Would love to see at the end of these episodes a wrap at the end of the episode that acts like a kind of award. Each host having their own choices. Selections like 'Best card' is easy, but i'd much prefer to see 'card that has the most impact on an existing / emerging archetype' 'card i'm most excited to play' 'most likely to over/under perform', that sort of thing. I really miss those old discussion episodes, and while we get plenty of it baked into these, i'd love to see a bit more of it. Might also allow for time allocation for those cards our beloved hosts want to wax lyrical on from each set.

@lhopitalified Ай бұрын

re: Spinewoods Armadillo - I just finished building a 6 cmc only commander deck, and I'm annoyed at how much of an upgrade it is over Topiary Panther

@charlesmayes7020 Ай бұрын

Why the hell is varmint a creature type? It's just a beast. You got to use the word in the card name, just be happy with that!

@janmelantu7490 Ай бұрын

No it’s not. Varmints are small, beasts *should* be large. Mountain Lions are beasts not varmints, squirrels are varmints not beasts. Arboreal Grazer should be a varmint.

@Mordalon Ай бұрын

It's not like Beast has been a relevant type in years. Creature types also exist for flavor in addition to sometimes being for mechanical synergy.

@SilverDrgn14 Ай бұрын

what if you start storming then use Crackling Spellsinger into Tendrils. Storm Storm. Only need half the storm

@axelostlund2348 Ай бұрын

"A bant splicer blink deck?" "Who is your commander again?" It's Brenard, Ginger Sculptor. Hello I made that deck.

@GoofyahhGus Ай бұрын

Are the new Crime Deserts not another win con for something like the year end runner up deck?

@lindonmichael Ай бұрын

For RDW the 2/2 haste Coyote and Roadrunner are very real.

@T_Peazy Ай бұрын

The thing I love about Nelson is that he will unyeildingly defend his friends and also roast them into the dust. Bring back Nelson.

@GoofyahhGus Ай бұрын

If you plot Railway Brawler on turn 2/3 then an 8/8 Questing Beast on turn 3/4 isn't good?

@kaitlynnscribbler4349 Ай бұрын

or you could just play questing beast for 4 mana and attack on both those turns followed by another big hasty threat

@transmutedelf7453 Ай бұрын

25:56 Back for Seconds

@neilprivat4554 Ай бұрын

I miss Nelly!

@signisakanades1329 Ай бұрын

Question for Crackling Spellslinger: What happens if a card has multiple instances of storm?

@GerBessa Ай бұрын

They both trigger separately. In effect, it will put on the stack N copies, then N other copies, N being the number of previous spells. The copies do not add to storm. The N first resolve before the second batch is put on the stack.

@user-px9hm1cq5f Ай бұрын

Would love to know your opinion that Saddleback Lagac is not a Mount.

@lorenfarque1571 Ай бұрын

THE RETURN OF THE REVENGE OF THE COACH NELLY LESSSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@T_Peazy Ай бұрын

Wheeler out hear speaking my language with stormchaser mage talks.

@pontusmattsson7655 Ай бұрын

the 2.1 defence is rather bad..but is it really that bad compair to defending hovermyr? i think we need him back for the great debate! also yay comment for engagement! youtube put these folks on the homepage daily already!

@CeltiesSin Ай бұрын

Man… rattlewurm makes me want to sell my collection and y’all are just like “yeh. It’s aight” ☹️… 😂 All these cards are pretty crazy compared to idk 10 years ago or whatever, but that Tyrant comparison to Thragtusk had me like “huh 🤔 that really is just hyper-tusk” (and also “jeezus 👀”)

@Mordalon Ай бұрын

Tyrant also costs 2 more than Thragtusk. Thragtusk always felt more like the upper end of midrange while 6+ mana is when you get into "ramp target" level cards, so I wouldn't really compare them 1 to 1.

@notsm Ай бұрын

Serge HAS to end part 3 holding up just one finger (or thumb). Just to keep the count down going. I don't know what he is counting down to but we will see.

@JoeJoeBear812 Ай бұрын

I'd be so down for a "flashback" episode of N100 showdown where nothing printed after 2012 is allowed

@SmackyDaFrog42 Ай бұрын

Rules question: do instances of storm trigger separately?

@GerBessa Ай бұрын

Yes.

@williamjohnson5022 Ай бұрын

31:20 I thought they hit peak boomer magic but it just kept going!

@zackreph939 Ай бұрын

Unrelated to the great card evaluation conversations, Wheeler's haircut looks sharp as hell.

@JustSomeSkin Ай бұрын

My favorite part about the scorpion dragon is that it dies to Wheel efffects

@diggerdog9205 Ай бұрын

Man, Canadian Commander gettin crazy 🤣

@SjefDriscoll Ай бұрын

Everyone in the comments: WHERE IS NELSON WE WANT HIM BACK RAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR The first 30 seconds of the episode: Nelson had an emergency and had to step out

@jarzz3601 Ай бұрын

new brushwagg :o

@598019001 Ай бұрын

Nooo! I need my Three Amigos to tell me about cards!

@zachariahhuey9876 Ай бұрын

The comments about Nelson’s qualifications are unfair! He’s easily the third best panelist!

@SlainBlackguard Ай бұрын

Save the Nelson!

@SuperFlamingTomato Ай бұрын

at 15:14, I don't know if this will see play? If people aren't playing Tears of Valakut they aren't playing this.

@NickTheDM Ай бұрын

You should def invite Nelly back to the podcast, but maybe some other folks too from time to time!

@randompowerup9305 Ай бұрын

cant believe they killed nelly, i'm gonna miss him

@kylemelinkovich8675 Ай бұрын

I like "Day/Night"

@ChiralWolf Ай бұрын

the only reason to still play outland liberator is for the furry value. she's a big dog AND wants to help the other dogs, what's not to love?

@Dragonroot95 Ай бұрын

I wish I was duilt bifferently just like Wheeler

@Rubber_Ducksauce Ай бұрын

Bill! Bill! Bill!

@EionBlue Ай бұрын

I want Nelly back just so you two can continue roasting him to his face.

@Argusthecat Ай бұрын

And visa versa!

@gamefreak3072 Ай бұрын

Instead of Nelly can you have Beej on to give the lamens perspective?

@michaeldimattia9605 Ай бұрын

Speaking of what deserts are seeing play, I wonder if actual-factual Desert is being undervalued in this world of Ragavans and Faerie Masterminds.

@PSroka Ай бұрын

HASHEP OASIS

@BathtubBreeze Ай бұрын

i think railway brawler is sneakily one of the better cards in the set

@Xalyn937 Ай бұрын

You are a great pair, but Nelly adds a certain dad spice.

@plundypops Ай бұрын

I don't want to give a hot take, but you should invite Nelly onto the podcast again.

@Mordalon Ай бұрын

🖐I like day night *clap clap clap clap clap*

@OGNoNameNobody Ай бұрын

Really? *Memory Jar* is broken? You mean the card that is the sole reason the phrase "Emergency Banned" exists??

@hellsingfan89 Ай бұрын

Nelson not here makes me sad

@barneymiller3689 Ай бұрын

Flash to 0 Hulk to 7!!!! Free fair hulk

@IaCthulhuFthagn Ай бұрын

I can't believe they, as a collective, completely forgot colourless and multicoloured cards exist!

@uwtartarus Ай бұрын

Bring back Nelly! 😮

@CaseyPlasticratic Ай бұрын

Bring Nelly back!

@WiseGuy57 Ай бұрын

Have Nelly back, but he has to bring his trombone and play whomp-whomp when folks have clownish takes.

@chaosmittens Ай бұрын

please allow Nelly back on the set.

@chazzer5968 Ай бұрын

Who murdered Nelly?

@mostlikelymaybe Ай бұрын

Nelly's dad energy was needed elsewhere today

@lunameyers7093 Ай бұрын

Meow