LS Oil Pump Shimming- (correct method)

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@mikerecords5530
@mikerecords5530 3 жыл бұрын
Much easier than other methods I've seen. Thanks.
@mewrongway
@mewrongway 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a video that shows the proper install of a LS oil pump! it is refreshing to find a youtube HOW TO video from someone that knows HOW TO! Thanks so much!
@Utubegofukurself
@Utubegofukurself Жыл бұрын
How do you know this is a correct "How To"? Just some guy with a cell phone lol
@mewrongway
@mewrongway Жыл бұрын
@@Utubegofukurself Been building LS engines since 1997!
@Utubegofukurself
@Utubegofukurself Жыл бұрын
@@mewrongwayIm sorry, did i dispute that?
@Utubegofukurself
@Utubegofukurself Жыл бұрын
@@mewrongway oh and, Melling says WRONG
@mewrongway
@mewrongway Жыл бұрын
@@Utubegofukurself Did Melling design the LS engine? Did Melling design the LS oil pump? No they just copy OEM parts and sell them for a profit! I been building LS engines since 1997 and the LS did not appear in anything but a vette until 98. That tell ya anything? Does the fact that gears in a diff are set up with a certain clearance just like a LS pump, That tell you anything? Melling is doing the same thing in a less accurate manner lol, Melling just doesn't want idiots taking there pumps apart and *u*king them up and sending them back lol! So why does all the performance parts stores sell a Butler, Sac City, ICT or other LS oil pump alignment kit consisting of over priced feeler gauges? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/euCFrJSDybXcZWQ.html
@charleslowe522
@charleslowe522 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that tidbit of information. Getting ready to rebuild 5.3L LC9 block and this looks to be the easiest method for centering the gear.
@barrets6226
@barrets6226 3 жыл бұрын
Wow..... I would have just slapped it on and never thought about it needing adjustment. Thanks for the video, I'll be doing this job soon.
@milojanis4901
@milojanis4901 2 жыл бұрын
I did slap it on my first ls engine. Why? Because my 2000 factory shop manual made no mention of this!!! I'd bet money that the newer editions do. Remember, back in 2000, these engines and manuals were only in their 4th year of production, and new, better methods get discovered over time......
@TheJdizzle02
@TheJdizzle02 2 жыл бұрын
Mellings website says put oil pump on and rotate crank 360deg then torque oil pump melling does not tell you to take the pump cover off
@milojanis4901
@milojanis4901 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJdizzle02 I have also seen, and read about this method. I'm sure this procedure would work, too.....
@TheJdizzle02
@TheJdizzle02 2 жыл бұрын
@@milojanis4901 the high volume oil pump I installed didn't have enough clearance for a .0015
@PONSAUTOMOTIVE
@PONSAUTOMOTIVE Жыл бұрын
@@TheJdizzle02 how I do all mine install turn engine over and trq them
@HandSolo1
@HandSolo1 4 ай бұрын
Doing my first LS build and this has been really helpful. Thank you.
@SurferJoe46
@SurferJoe46 2 жыл бұрын
This is the same technique I used on my 2005 5.3 with a new Melling M295HV pump. I could only get 0.0015" feelers into it though --- but it got centered just like yours. Thanks for making me feel good about doing this pump.
@Mpreston89
@Mpreston89 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@LSMykie
@LSMykie 2 жыл бұрын
You should really do some giveaways this channel needs to grow this is valuable DIY info!!! Definitely helping me build my first engine!!
@Nicecalgarian
@Nicecalgarian 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man ! That was helpful as I am planning to rebuild my LM7 engine. 🇨🇦🤘
@jordanpavlic383
@jordanpavlic383 3 жыл бұрын
wow i’m actually really glad I stumbled upon this video, i’m pretty new to LS engines and i’m doing an oil pump on my truck here shortly and this popped up on my suggested. thanks 👍
@timweb1510
@timweb1510 2 жыл бұрын
Which oil pump are you using? Melling doesn’t recommend feeler gauges anymore
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 Жыл бұрын
Best video ever on the LS oil pump assembly 🔥
@cdshawn
@cdshawn Жыл бұрын
I'm performing a LS rebuild procedure very soon and I'm subbing you because you sound very helpful
@davidyoung30
@davidyoung30 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Used it to set mine up tonight after my first cam install. Feels good knowing it’s all done and done right.
@Utubegofukurself
@Utubegofukurself Жыл бұрын
Hey i have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale for really cheap!
@koutros100
@koutros100 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time sir. Very helpful. All your vids are awesome brother. God bless
@jessebrown1497
@jessebrown1497 2 жыл бұрын
My man! Quick and simple video.
@Yellow_6.2l
@Yellow_6.2l 2 жыл бұрын
Going to the parts store to go get new filler gauges now, Thanks for this informational video!
@ValyndiirTV
@ValyndiirTV 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to swap my harmonic balancer in my C5 and will replace the timing set and oil pump while I am in there, this was very useful!
@daryltaylor659
@daryltaylor659 7 ай бұрын
Your method absolutely worked for me cause my 685hp ls1 is still alive and excellent oil pressure...thanks
@davidcallahan5157
@davidcallahan5157 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation love the videos!
@geraldbermudez715
@geraldbermudez715 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice and very helpful .thank you.
@bigal878
@bigal878 3 жыл бұрын
Great video from Australia 🇦🇺
@ajcreech9458
@ajcreech9458 3 жыл бұрын
Good job made it a lot more simple
@readplanet23
@readplanet23 2 ай бұрын
Thank You sir for the informative and simple process of shimming the oil pump. Keep up the good videos. Have A Productive Day! 🛻🚚🚛
@e.s.l5861
@e.s.l5861 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the video. I’m getting ready to do this prospect in my truck
@patrickzadd5215
@patrickzadd5215 17 күн бұрын
thank you for another excellent video
@TomAustin303
@TomAustin303 Жыл бұрын
Wow - that is vastly simpler than the other methods I've seen.
@chrisbryant1657
@chrisbryant1657 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video! 👍
@champspec
@champspec 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation. I’ve always done this. But i like your method better, by removing the shims. When you torque down the cover, there’s usually two of the bolt holes that have flattened edges, making them look slotted. I believe they are there to center the cover and should be the first two to install and snug down.
@drhernandez9449
@drhernandez9449 2 жыл бұрын
Great video like always,,,was wondering about a in depth video on a break in how to,,,thanks again,,,
@KevinMLloyd
@KevinMLloyd 2 жыл бұрын
Best procedure I've seen
@johnnystock1849
@johnnystock1849 Жыл бұрын
Just awesome, that makes perfect sense now!
@captainsledge7554
@captainsledge7554 2 жыл бұрын
Melling doesn't even show this in their install video... i offer Warranties with my engines. Ive had an average of 2 out of 20 ruin a crank in break in. I couldnt understand why. But i started doing this and i havent had a claim since.... i been looking for this video that taught me this, for months. thank you
@outfitsgarage88
@outfitsgarage88 Жыл бұрын
Very good information. I just found your channel and subbed.
@stevenstreng4788
@stevenstreng4788 Жыл бұрын
Smart. Perfect no bullshit video exactly what i needed to know with no drama perfect video
@JacobVillemain
@JacobVillemain Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steven!
@jerrycarter3963
@jerrycarter3963 2 жыл бұрын
awesome explanation. Thank you so much.
@jamieK111
@jamieK111 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.Fantastic video! I was going to.skip this step until you demostrated it so clearly. Thank you!
@adamstoltz3278
@adamstoltz3278 6 ай бұрын
That is the best method i have seen for that.
@msnapp169
@msnapp169 Жыл бұрын
I've installed thousands of these oil pumps over the years and have never done this or heard of this and have never had Any failures or low oil pressure do to pump failure
@lawrencedeaninvestments2171
@lawrencedeaninvestments2171 2 жыл бұрын
Video was very helpful
@terrywillis5784
@terrywillis5784 11 ай бұрын
Great info.
@wilcat375
@wilcat375 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done 🤸‍♂️🏋🏄‍♂️
@partidaandy7
@partidaandy7 11 ай бұрын
You guys are bad ass . Need goid mechanics like you guys here in San Diego.
@andyc5612
@andyc5612 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. Easy to follow from start to finish.
@drtb69
@drtb69 Жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks for sharing the knowledge and tips 🙂👍subscribed!
@postalaka
@postalaka 7 ай бұрын
Great idea . Simple .
@gregm784
@gregm784 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks.
@walasiewicz
@walasiewicz 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant dude
@Brass_Heathen
@Brass_Heathen 2 жыл бұрын
Good shit man.
@maxthemadtuner
@maxthemadtuner 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome easy trick.👍🏽
@aldoladrondeguevara7259
@aldoladrondeguevara7259 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. U da man with the plan
@trevorbaldwin6063
@trevorbaldwin6063 3 жыл бұрын
Clever sir
@ethanhoullahan5423
@ethanhoullahan5423 2 жыл бұрын
This video is perfect. Only thing I would ask, and I know it’s weird, is how to install an oil pump on an ls while the engine is still in a car or truck. I’m looking to do a cam and pump upgrade.
@richardmoreno5160
@richardmoreno5160 Жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@christart8461
@christart8461 Жыл бұрын
Awesome channel
@vornice7604
@vornice7604 7 ай бұрын
melling instructions in the box mentioned none of this, i just sent her down and been great pressure for years. technically all it should change is the ratio of compression because it floats offset anyway. if it was so important there would be dowels for the oil pump
@krellerj1111
@krellerj1111 Жыл бұрын
What size shims are you using?
@mikescaffo4850
@mikescaffo4850 4 ай бұрын
Well done sir
@petejoseph8257
@petejoseph8257 3 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@Mr572u
@Mr572u 3 жыл бұрын
Why use gear oil? It gets flushed with engine oil as soon as the engine starts
@mikemcleroy8265
@mikemcleroy8265 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr572u I thought he used assembly lube. It’s thicker, and stickier to help pull oil initially.
@310ttech8
@310ttech8 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍. Any chance of doing an L83/L86 oil pump install and info to limit pump whine?
@jorginofingal4267
@jorginofingal4267 3 жыл бұрын
Easy explained 😎😎😎😎
@nitrofish1974
@nitrofish1974 Жыл бұрын
Its the only way to do it right ✅ 💯
@ThuggBoi69
@ThuggBoi69 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video keep em coming
@hardball107
@hardball107 Жыл бұрын
I installed the same pump on a build I did 2 years ago and just bolted it on. Melling told me there was sacrificial rings in the pump to center it, I didn't even torque the cover and after torqueing the mounting bolts there was no play which made me a little uneasy but no problems so far. I have used a similar method with GM pumps just centering the ring, I was glad to see that is how you did it. Thanks.
@thetrueivaid
@thetrueivaid Жыл бұрын
Melling also told me it was not needed to shim the oil pump
@BigFun4Life
@BigFun4Life 6 ай бұрын
What single row timing chain and gears do you recommend….Thanks
@jackmcminn2520
@jackmcminn2520 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@drinkindreamin9883
@drinkindreamin9883 Жыл бұрын
@ that engine guy. Just updated my stock pump on my 160k ls with a melling. Any recommendations on what spring to run? Thanks great vid
@kyleallen3857
@kyleallen3857 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained I always wonder why people skip this simple step on, arguably, the most important engine component.
@Mr572u
@Mr572u 3 жыл бұрын
Because many guys don’t know that it is necessary. KZfaq is full of them.
@SpeedDemon88X
@SpeedDemon88X 2 жыл бұрын
because the pump manufacturers (melling) void your warranty if you remove the front cover. Also if it was so crucial, GM service would have a procedure for centering the pump. They don't.
@c41man
@c41man 2 жыл бұрын
@ Kyle Allen On my LS1 I installed a new Melling oil pump by priming the oil pump before I installed onto the crankshaft. Good oil pressure to this day.
@milojanis4901
@milojanis4901 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say that it IS the most important component!!! Without it, you could dump a $100,000 into your engine, and it wouldn't run for more than several seconds before it took itself back apart again!!
@user-cp5vl9ot9x
@user-cp5vl9ot9x Ай бұрын
I am amazed that shops still just bolt those pumps on and not 'center' em ! Been building the ls motors since about 2001... center the pumps on every one of em. Some pumps only allow .0015".... that is tightest i've seen.
@Jonny_trans
@Jonny_trans Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JacobVillemain
@JacobVillemain Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DaveMcLaughlin
@DaveMcLaughlin Жыл бұрын
What size feelers to use or is it best to measure the gap on one side to work out the size needed?
@arbyarby3259
@arbyarby3259 11 ай бұрын
question do ya have a video or make one on replacing a harmonic balancer on both the 5.3L & 8.1L '99-06' GM truck engines using the manufactures torque specs. would appreciate it sir!!
@wilmarjunior8945
@wilmarjunior8945 Жыл бұрын
What timing gear set are you using on this engine?
@stevem8128
@stevem8128 27 күн бұрын
Great video, can you please tell us what size feeler guage you used? I’m working on a 1999 Z28 LS1 Thanks!
@jetsetter468
@jetsetter468 Ай бұрын
what oil lube are you using and what do you recommend for engine assy lube if engine is gonna set a year before starting
@rockfordfos1
@rockfordfos1 2 жыл бұрын
Feeler gauge do I need to do my 4.8 LS on my oil pump? From what thickness to thickness is acceptable On a new GM Oil pump?
@codywhite8452
@codywhite8452 Жыл бұрын
If you just take your oil pump off to do timing chain and go back with the old pump do you still need to do this step
@expatconn7242
@expatconn7242 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I’m doing my 1st LM7 , 2002 I have the stock rockers . If I want to up grade …. To what worries about clearance. I swing a new gm hi flow Oil pump.. there was no o ring on the pick up tube . It was disintegrated . My question is what color do I need .
@thomaslapointe4671
@thomaslapointe4671 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Great Video w Perfect Detail Would Enjoy to Your Ideas on How to Bullet Proof for Durability n Life Cycle the Lower "hp/ft.lb" NA Truck 6.2/Stroked 6.8 for Torque Application of moving a 6,400 to 6,800lbs "Brick" type Swap
@wrenchesandcars5161
@wrenchesandcars5161 2 жыл бұрын
What kinda oil pump and timing set did you use
@onemoremisfit
@onemoremisfit 3 жыл бұрын
I have a pack of brass shim stock in various thicknesses, and I have an LS 5.3L truck engine apart, I think some strips of brass shim would work well for this operation. But even though my LS is very mildly cammed (stock idle and .05" more lift than stock) and has a SC system that makes 6psi max boost, I think I'm going to leave the bypass spring at stock oil pressure because I don't intend to race the truck and it will never see over 5000 rpm, and it will mostly tow, haul and highway cruise. More oil psi or volume when not really needed has a way of putting more oil in the valve cover area and causing oil consumption thru the PCV. My brother has a high HP, hi-rev supercharged intercooled LS that is giving this trouble. But one thing I did do was upgrade to a double row timing set designed to support 2000 hp (so I'm told). The stock timing chain was so loose after 100,000 miles it was a miracle it didn't jump a tooth, and this was 80% highway cruising and absolutely no racing. And replacing the timing set in the vehicle on an LS is not so easy as it was in the old days. Back in the day I changed worn timing sets on V8 Chevys, Buicks, Cadillacs, in the vehicle ... the cars all stalled due to the timing chain getting loose and jumping a tooth and you could tell by advancing the distributor and the engine would start again. Those days are over. You gotta put in a timing set that will last the life of the engine. LS truck engines are good for over 200,000 miles but the timing chains are good for maybe 100,000.
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 2 жыл бұрын
Does any of this apply to Coyote stuff since we run the same style pump? I've never hear anyone say anything about it.
@ernesttrader7364
@ernesttrader7364 5 ай бұрын
I have 2018 ls3 chevy perf. crate motor 495 hp. Should I use the 10295 or 10355
@DatHondaBoi223
@DatHondaBoi223 Ай бұрын
Do I need the high volume high pressure oil pump, or stock volume high pressure pump for a btr stg 3 blower cam and lsa supercharger with 2.45 pulley? Roughly 700 wheel on E
@v.e.7236
@v.e.7236 2 жыл бұрын
I came up w/ the same method, so as not to be using multiple shims. Great minds think alike.
@kennycreager9850
@kennycreager9850 2 жыл бұрын
So what size shims or feeler gauges did you use?
@reeljamescooper
@reeljamescooper 20 күн бұрын
.002”-.0025”
@harp440
@harp440 2 жыл бұрын
What about priming, if necessary?
@JohnDoe-si3ne
@JohnDoe-si3ne 4 ай бұрын
What gasket kit brand do you use on your builds?
@JO3haNsum
@JO3haNsum 6 күн бұрын
Sweet👍
@gagestanyer1759
@gagestanyer1759 7 ай бұрын
What does the other spring do? Add pressure? Or volume? I’m gonna be running about 1000hp with a turbo and was told to get a high volume oil pump but then was told it’ll suck my stock pan dry. So will this Melling one with that spring suffice and not suck anything dry?
@codystewart1483
@codystewart1483 Жыл бұрын
Is it worth it to do this on a 2002 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3ls I'm replacing the oil pump and was wondering if I should do this or is it just a waste of time
@danieldouglas8034
@danieldouglas8034 6 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on degreeing a stage 3,4 cam on a ls heads on are off. Do and don't.
@MrJackassfan
@MrJackassfan 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, So im having an issue with belt to where its riding on the edge of my ati balancer everywhere on the accessory drive theres no issue. So it looks like my balancer is in too far. Do you think the oil drive was installed incorrectly? Or does that have nothing to do with it
@wes11293
@wes11293 2 жыл бұрын
What size feeler gauges ??
@davidcuevas788
@davidcuevas788 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@ryanodneal7001
@ryanodneal7001 3 ай бұрын
I just slapped the old used pump back on. What does this alignment do?
@user-vg8yz5fg5i
@user-vg8yz5fg5i 9 ай бұрын
does it have to be done in an old pump too after removing it?
@clea7799
@clea7799 2 ай бұрын
Thanks I’m replacing my lq4 engine with a hv melting oil pump is the 2.5 thousand gap the sam
@weseethetruth158
@weseethetruth158 4 ай бұрын
Furthermore use green loctite for the oil pump bolts. They will never move until you take them off.
@daveerrington5166
@daveerrington5166 8 ай бұрын
What size feelers?
@rickybailey7123
@rickybailey7123 5 ай бұрын
How did u do in the mile run on the twin turbo vet ??
@NaztyNate
@NaztyNate 10 ай бұрын
genius!
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