Luke Mitchell The Fresh Evidence

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Through A Scottish Prism

Through A Scottish Prism

Жыл бұрын

Roddy is joined by Scott Forbes author of The Long Walk to Justice and Dr Sandra Lean author of Innocents Betrayed for an update on the case of Luke Mitchell

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@MyTube754
@MyTube754 Жыл бұрын
Luke Mitchell needs massive support from the Scottish Public. This could have been ANYONE.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
Luke Mitchell is where he will Stay.
@liamgordonwl01lrg73
@liamgordonwl01lrg73 5 ай бұрын
How do i get involved?
@cherrycupcake6327
@cherrycupcake6327 Жыл бұрын
To live in a country where this happens is FRIGHTENING. It is only because of the work of these wonderful people and their passion that stops me feeling totally hopeless in fellow humans!!!!!! Keep strong Sandra, Scott and Luke...
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
Luke Mitchell went before a court of Law with 20 Chapters of evidence against him, which is a Lot for a sole defendant. The High Court Judge & Jurors - Saw & Heard that evidence & found him Guilty, Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. And after only 5 hours adjudicating due to such a Strong case. The biggest & longest trial in Scottish history, 42 days. He has had all the appeals he will Ever get & the Innocence Project rejected his application due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed Exactly what he did to this poor girl. He was also convicted that same for being a drug dealer. He sold his drugs to fellow School kids. His own Brother testified Against him & he nor their father have had Anything to do with him since the trial Nor have they spoken to that so-called mother since. They sure as hell have Nothing to do with this Shameful campaign, which is nothing but a nefarious marketing ploy to sell their books about Nothing & getting away with it Still because they know damn well that the public are totally in the dark about the Facts presented at Trial. Only the naive & the ignorant fall for it all. His highly sadistic Premeditated crime was so heinous & wicked it's likely that he'll Never get out. Sandra Lean & now Scott Forbes wrote books of BS to line their Own pockets & all the plotted media hoo ha for over 3 years on utube videos has some people hypnotised because that's the Whole Aim. Of Course they blame the cops, that's how Both lowly Con Artists rake in the hard-done-by members of society in particular. He tried to stage the scene as if a maniacal fiend had come across Jodi & somehow got her over & through that broken section of the stone wall & went berserk with a knife, yet she never made a sound. It's a Fact that most of the cuts were After death. He cajoled her with pot to Their place in the woods & knocked her out, had to, he was a simpy punk, the severe contusion on her brain told That story. The witness noticed the bulge in the pocket of the jacket, that disappeared. Poof, gone. That had to be something substantial in the pocket to stand out in a jacket that was big & bulky for that twerp. He thought he was smarter than the cops & told his mother that after the initial police questioning that night. She stated that Publicly in her interview with James English. He was Not & neither was She. She who worked hard to cover it all up. The crown put forth that he went back. In total he couldn't account for 3 hours. The police didn't know what time Jodi was attacked or died when speaking to him that night yet his false alibi was for that exact time frame of her death. What a Very telling Coincidence. Luke was Not home in that time frame of 5 to 5.30 & so, did not know if his brother was or not. Luke had left to meet Jodi before his brother got home from work. They reeled that poor lad into it the Next Day when the mother had sobered up. Their statements changed every time the cops went back to tell them info they found out, didn't match. They changed the alibi 3 times within the 1st week. Lean & Forbes have Never told that Fact. Jodi's grandmother, her sister & boyfriend realised they'd repeated to the cops what Luke had Told Them about the actions of the dog & so they amended their statement about that detail, that was All. Now I see that Lean has a big banner & posters as her next hoodwinking ploy, "MIA FOUND HER". The dog did Not climb over & through the V in the wall & so into the woods, ONLY Luke DID. It was proven that his torch did Not have the scope to have seen the body which was behind a big log & amongst bushes - on that pitch dark, rainy, starless night, At All. Lean always uses the wording of 'case papers' to Pretend that she had all the documents & all the statements from the trial, she does Not & Never has. She had paperwork from his defence lawyer for the appeal process from way back at that time, Nothing else. Over 40 police & seasoned investigators worked this case very carefully for a Long time. The police did an Excellent job to put that scumbag degenerate child killer Exactly where he needs to be.
@JGI43
@JGI43 6 ай бұрын
@@bethryan9077you are a paid troll 🧌
@dazedconfused7188
@dazedconfused7188 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely shocking, Roddy. Thanks for highlighting. Let's hope Luke eventually gets justice. No idea how some people can sleep at night.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
@@NancyBears They're nothing but a pair of Very practised Con Artists who say Whatever because they have books of BS to sell ya. Her former profession was that of a Hypnotist, he was formerly an Armed robber. They hooked up after he had tried to sell a BS story to the press for 50,000 pounds but the friend was seen on CCTV with No scratches on his face & had a solid alibi. They've been partners in hoodwinking the public for Money ever since. When that totally biased Ch 5 documentary went to air, Scotty boy had his part to play, of course. The friend had died in the meantime so he repeated that Lie & added an extra lie & said the guy had a knife. LOL. Scotty boy has a real thing for knives & tells many stories about young guys & finding knives all around town right at that time. For many of his videos he is in a room in his flat & front & centre on the wall is phallic symbol, a big knife in a big sheath. Some other countries like the U.S., have the full transcripts of court testimony & all evidence available to the public when the trial is over. Not Scotland. Got it?
@suzanneross1933
@suzanneross1933 Жыл бұрын
I find it ridiculous that Police Scotland still say that there was a full and proper investigation carried out.
@Joanne217
@Joanne217 Жыл бұрын
Criminal!
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@HanaLagha-et6sj
@HanaLagha-et6sj Жыл бұрын
Imagine…the place where the body was found (I won’t call it the crime scene as the place has never been established) was FULL of forensic evidence, and yet they reached a conviction based on circumstantial evidence…simply because they didn’t have the forensics to link Luke to the murder. What an embarrassment.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
I find it ridiculous that so many believe these two Con Artists who say Whatever because they Each have a book of BS to sell ya, yet you can't even figure That out. LOL.
@suzanneross1933
@suzanneross1933 Жыл бұрын
Dorothy Bain should never have been allowed to have anything to do with this case.
@lindamalcolm2743
@lindamalcolm2743 Жыл бұрын
I agree, conflict of interest, should be highlighted in the press.
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@AndrewWeatherall-cd9zm
@AndrewWeatherall-cd9zm Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for continuing to shed light on this massive injustice.
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
This is another Marketing ploy deary, they're shedding light on how to get your Money & there's no shortage of suckers.
@WtfTravellingJim
@WtfTravellingJim Жыл бұрын
This is possibly the biggest miscarriage of justice in our times
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
You people need to wake up to yourselves, two Con Artists & another lackey spouting garbage for Money.
@markporciani8871
@markporciani8871 Жыл бұрын
If I was an MSP my first question for Humza at FMQ would be on this matter.
@suzanneross1933
@suzanneross1933 Жыл бұрын
It totally amazes me that the forensic experts didn’t ever mention that Jodi wasn’t killed where she was found. Apart from the fact that this case has made me lose all trust in the police, I will never be able to trust what forensic experts say. I also believe that the Jones family know who the killer really is.
@ms2290
@ms2290 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Jones family & co protected their own but let a child take the blame with the hatred towards him. The dignified silence is incase the going gets carried away. There will be one that slips on each side eventually.
@kerrytk5768
@kerrytk5768 Жыл бұрын
@@ms2290 totally agree. The house of cards is falling.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@@kerrytk5768 After all this time the whole lot should be jailed for life with the 'big boys' denied any pension. Why will none of them take the offer of the all expenses paib polygraph with th £10k bonus? Ahhh...money's no use in jail!!
@77rmp
@77rmp Жыл бұрын
Why would the Jones cover up one of their own for a murder of their own though? It wasn't a random that had been murdered. It was the daughter.
@nicholasweeney1425
@nicholasweeney1425 Жыл бұрын
​@@77rmp Easy, imagine the hell you would go through if you were the mother of a son who had killed his sister. Your whole life would be examined, dissected, your drinking /dope smoking/drug connections would
@jacqueline4905
@jacqueline4905 Жыл бұрын
Poor Corrine too. Fucking shameful 😢
@Chumba-iv5xb
@Chumba-iv5xb Жыл бұрын
@ Jacqueline. Yes Corrine has served a sentence too. Lost everything. Stayed in the caravan shop with no water no toilet. Truly terrible.
@jacqueline4905
@jacqueline4905 Жыл бұрын
@@Chumba-iv5xb I just hope she sees her boy free.
@Chumba-iv5xb
@Chumba-iv5xb Жыл бұрын
@@jacqueline4905 yes me too. It’s so sad. I wish I could send her a card, just to say I care.
@DerekCooperDeek
@DerekCooperDeek 3 ай бұрын
Well said
@DerekCooperDeek
@DerekCooperDeek 3 ай бұрын
@@Chumba-iv5xb some one could arrange that
@scottishlass5437
@scottishlass5437 Жыл бұрын
I have said from day one, Jodi was never killed where she was found.
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@shonabeggs4640
@shonabeggs4640 10 ай бұрын
I hadnt heard this anywhere until recently. Does anyone have any idea where the M could have taken place?, there would be massive amounts of blood at the scene , probably including arterial spray, not easy to clean up forensically. Then there is the bigger question, how did the klr move her without being seen?.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 5 ай бұрын
He cut her throat from behind, the spurt of blood was on the wall, also what he Planned. Most cuts were after death. He dragged the body to where it was found. You will Never get any True facts about this case from these two Con Artists who continue to Lie because they have their books of BS to sell ya.
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
"There is no forensic evidence whatsoever to connect him to Jodi's murder, despite the horrifying nature of the murder" Prof David Wilson
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@richardallan4594
@richardallan4594 Жыл бұрын
Why was Craig Dobbie allowed to be involved in this case when he had a personal relationship with the auntie. Why wasn’t he told to step aside from a superior officer as he was friends with the family
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
​@@richardallan4594 he didnt.all lies by forbes.
@rosslynmbutters5708
@rosslynmbutters5708 Жыл бұрын
The rotund forensic woman couldn't get over the wall - but AW managed to??? The whole police team from start to finish and anyone involved need to be investigated and held accountable!
@lauracameron3738
@lauracameron3738 Жыл бұрын
Very disturbing- is this really justice in Scotland. (shame on us)
@paulrobbo216
@paulrobbo216 Жыл бұрын
Respect to these two working so hard to clear Luke’s name. I believed the media all them years ago. Injustice
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
They're nothing but a pair of Very practised Con Artists who say Whatever because they have books of BS to sell ya. Her former profession was that of a Hypnotist, he was formerly an Armed robber. They hooked up after he had tried to sell a BS story to the press for 50,000 pounds but the friend was seen on CCTV with No scratches on his face & had a solid alibi. They've been partners in hoodwinking the public for Money ever since. When that totally biased Ch 5 documentary went to air, Scotty boy had his part to play, of course. The friend had died in the meantime so he repeated that Lie & added an extra lie & said the guy had a knife. LOL. Scotty boy has a real thing for knives & tells many stories about young guys & finding knives all around town right at that time. For many of his videos he is in a room in his flat & front & centre on the wall is phallic symbol, a big knife in a big sheath. Some other countries like the U.S., have the full transcripts of court testimony & all evidence available to the public when the trial is over. Not Scotland. Got it?
@KizzieWiz
@KizzieWiz Жыл бұрын
I remember this case so well! I live near Newbattle now and find the case absolutely shocking. I remember the front of the newspapers how they demonised Luke. Good luck to everyone involved in trying to free Luke Mitchell.
@stevebbuk9557
@stevebbuk9557 Жыл бұрын
Whilst not condoning the press coverage the correct verdict was reached. Some are sincere in their beliefs; others have jumped on the bandwagon for reasons known only to themselves.
@ms2290
@ms2290 Жыл бұрын
@@stevebbuk9557 how can the right verdict be correct beyond a reasonable doubt when their was no DNA, changed statements to suit and Steven Kelly's blood on Jodis bra and sperm on her teeshirt! The defense nor jury knew that fact and the media already had everyone convinced. I'm not jumping on no bandwagon I see facts of a 14 year old girl murdered and also a 14 year old boy dragged in while others went home but as said the DNA wasn't from Luke here so how can it be correct?
@HumptyDumptysStepda
@HumptyDumptysStepda Жыл бұрын
Well that’s just nonsense Steve!
@stevebbuk9557
@stevebbuk9557 Жыл бұрын
@@HumptyDumptysStepda I have the utmost respect for Sandra, which makes my comments even harder to make, but the totality of the evidence examined in the cold light of day says Luke is guilty.
@ourwilliam2405
@ourwilliam2405 Жыл бұрын
@@HumptyDumptysStepdahis podcast is called “ fresh evidence “ What is the fresh evidence? And who decides it’s fresh evidence?
@raekelly1005
@raekelly1005 5 ай бұрын
No blood or DNA found on suspect 6 hours later,no surprise there probably planned it had change of clothes there,went home and showered. GUILTY
@ianhardie3997
@ianhardie3997 Жыл бұрын
Great show, Brilliant to show how corrupt our legal system is, Luke Mitchell
@rfc5649
@rfc5649 Жыл бұрын
Aye we have to keep spreading the word for Luke
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
What happened that was corrupt exactly? Be specific.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
His highly sadistic murder of this child was so heinous & wicked, it's likely he will Never get out. @@rfc5649
@ronm9101
@ronm9101 Жыл бұрын
Good call Sandra a mass protest on a Saturday would be brilliant every body and their dug for a silent/ peacefull protest
@darrenneil4533
@darrenneil4533 Жыл бұрын
The police’s handling of the crime scene was disgustingly disrespectful to poor Jodi’s memory!
@ourwilliam2405
@ourwilliam2405 Жыл бұрын
Nothing compared to the smear campaign against the family today
@ms2290
@ms2290 Жыл бұрын
@@ourwilliam2405 smear campaign? The truth? What about the smear campaign towards a child with no DNA being Luke but Jodi's sister Janine Jones bf Steven Kelly blood being on that poor girls bra and sperm of his also on Jodis teeshirt! Dignified silence of that eh?
@byMRTNjournals
@byMRTNjournals Жыл бұрын
I played a game of pool with luke the day after he got sentenced, in polmont. He beat me and we shook hands. Just like the judge, i found his silence and lack of emotion to be a sign of guilt. Ive had a whole life since then. I feel so bad for Luke. Hes obviously innocent. He needs to be cleared of any wrongdoing and a new investigation/inquest needs to be done
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
Luke Mitchell went before a court of Law with 20 Chapters of evidence against him, which is a Lot for a sole defendant. The High Court Judge & Jurors - Saw & Heard that evidence & found him Guilty, Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. And after only 5 hours adjudicating due to such a Strong case. The biggest & longest trial in Scottish history, 42 days. He has had all the appeals he will Ever get & the Innocence Project rejected his application due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed Exactly what he did to this poor girl. He was also convicted that same for being a drug dealer. He sold his drugs to fellow School kids. His own Brother testified Against him & he nor their father have had Anything to do with him since the trial Nor have they spoken to that so-called mother since. They sure as hell have Nothing to do with this Shameful campaign, which is nothing but a nefarious marketing ploy to sell their books about Nothing & getting away with it Still because they know damn well that the public are totally in the dark about the Facts presented at Trial. Only the naive & the ignorant fall for it all. His highly sadistic Premeditated crime was so heinous & wicked it's likely that he'll Never get out. Sandra Lean & now Scott Forbes wrote books of BS to line their Own pockets & all the plotted media hoo ha for over 3 years on utube videos has some people hypnotised because that's the Whole Aim. Of Course they blame the cops, that's how Both lowly Con Artists rake in the hard-done-by members of society in particular. He tried to stage the scene as if a maniacal fiend had come across Jodi & somehow got her over & through that broken section of the stone wall & went berserk with a knife, yet she never made a sound. It's a Fact that most of the cuts were After death. He cajoled her with pot to Their place in the woods & knocked her out, had to, he was a simpy punk, the severe contusion on her brain told That story. The witness noticed the bulge in the pocket of the jacket, that disappeared. Poof, gone. That had to be something substantial in the pocket to stand out in a jacket that was big & bulky for that twerp. He thought he was smarter than the cops & told his mother that after the initial police questioning that night. She stated that Publicly in her interview with James English. He was Not & neither was She. She who worked hard to cover it all up. The crown put forth that he went back. In total he couldn't account for 3 hours. The police didn't know what time Jodi was attacked or died when speaking to him that night yet his false alibi was for that exact time frame of her death. What a Very telling Coincidence. Luke was Not home in that time frame of 5 to 5.30 & so, did not know if his brother was or not. Luke had left to meet Jodi before his brother got home from work. They reeled that poor lad into it the Next Day when the mother had sobered up. Their statements changed every time the cops went back to tell them info they found out, didn't match. They changed the alibi 3 times within the 1st week. Lean & Forbes have Never told that Fact. Jodi's grandmother, her sister & boyfriend realised they'd repeated to the cops what Luke had Told Them about the actions of the dog & so they amended their statement about that detail, that was All. Now I see that Lean has a big banner & posters as her next hoodwinking ploy, "MIA FOUND HER". The dog did Not climb over & through the V in the wall & so into the woods, ONLY Luke DID. It was proven that his torch did Not have the scope to have seen the body which was behind a big log & amongst bushes - on that pitch dark, rainy, starless night, At All. Lean always uses the wording of 'case papers' to Pretend that she had all the documents & all the statements from the trial, she does Not & Never has. She had paperwork from his defence lawyer for the appeal process from way back at that time, Nothing else. Over 40 police & seasoned investigators worked this case very carefully for a Long time. The police did an Excellent job to put that scumbag degenerate child killer Exactly where he needs to be.
@byMRTNjournals
@byMRTNjournals 7 ай бұрын
@@bethryan9077 I'll be outside the high court with a loudspeaker on Jan 11th
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
@@byMRTNjournals That's nice. I'll be laughin my ass off watching you make an even Bigger fool of yourself.
@byMRTNjournals
@byMRTNjournals 7 ай бұрын
@@bethryan9077 he's innocent you absolute rocket. Normally people don't leave huge comments, clearly you're one of those closely involved scouring any comments section on the subject. If the Jones' don't like it they can always try suing. But that would involve court proceedings 😂😂😂
@ourwilliam2405
@ourwilliam2405 6 ай бұрын
@@byMRTNjournalsHes 💯 guilty Sandra has been caught lying 🤥
@valyoung4104
@valyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
Another great video guys well done for getting this information into the public domain. This really is a disgrace to Scotland - shame on our judges and justice system they need to address this now
@Chumba-iv5xb
@Chumba-iv5xb Жыл бұрын
@Val Young. Agreed.
@rfc5649
@rfc5649 Жыл бұрын
​@@Chumba-iv5xbwe need to Keep going
@rfc5649
@rfc5649 Жыл бұрын
We need to keep going and keep spreading the word # NOTINMYNAME
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
@@rfc5649 They're nothing but a pair of Very practised Con Artists who say Whatever because they have books of BS to sell ya. Her former profession was that of a Hypnotist, he was formerly an Armed robber. They hooked up after he had tried to sell a BS story to the press for 50,000 pounds but the friend was seen on CCTV with No scratches on his face & had a solid alibi. They've been partners in hoodwinking the public for Money ever since. When that totally biased Ch 5 documentary went to air, Scotty boy had his part to play, of course. The friend had died in the meantime so he repeated that Lie & added an extra lie & said the guy had a knife. LOL. Scotty boy has a real thing for knives & tells many stories about young guys & finding knives all around town right at that time. For many of his videos he is in a room in his flat & front & centre on the wall is phallic symbol, a big knife in a big sheath. Some other countries like the U.S., have the full transcripts of court testimony & all evidence available to the public when the trial is over. Not Scotland. Got it?
@ronm9101
@ronm9101 Жыл бұрын
It shows how evil that the police we're in that area
@shonabeggs4640
@shonabeggs4640 10 ай бұрын
Not just that area. All over!. They are generally lazy and if an easy 'suspect' is in the mix they will take that route above all others and make the (always) circumstantial evidence fit. That never used to be the norm. These days with scientific resources availability, there should be almost zero chance of a M \/ic Tim not having the klrs dna on them, and yet more and more people are being convicted on only circumstantial evidence. Why is this not being questioned in parliament?.
@pickledpixie
@pickledpixie Жыл бұрын
Just watched Ch5 doc which brought me here. Stunned beyond belief that Luke was convicted. Where is the evidence??? Secondly the treatment of him and his mother by the press and police is just disgusting. I truly hope his mother gets to see him free and has somewhere safe to live. 🙏
@rfc5649
@rfc5649 Жыл бұрын
We have to keep spreading the word for Luke
@scottishlass5437
@scottishlass5437 Жыл бұрын
Placed there by Davie Dickie imo
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@colinjackson9664
@colinjackson9664 Жыл бұрын
SHARE, SHARE, SHARE.
@isobelanderson6486
@isobelanderson6486 Жыл бұрын
This miscarriage of justice is absolutely shocking. I thought Roddy carried out this interview exceptionally well.
@barrheadboy1684
@barrheadboy1684 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@gillianlaing1073
@gillianlaing1073 10 ай бұрын
It's heartbreaking, that even that it's obvious a miscarriage off justice, no one will listen
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
Prof Wilson added: "Instead there seemed to be a concerted press campaign to damage his character which served to support the police's actions and in much the same way that George's reputation got tarnished by his pseudo-confession. Pro David Wilson who is incidentally Jane Hamilton 'pal'
@carriejorobinson4829
@carriejorobinson4829 Жыл бұрын
Don't think she'll be feeling too pally now
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
@@carriejorobinson4829 🙏
@gemmamoon335
@gemmamoon335 Жыл бұрын
Rhys bonner another case failed by the police scotland
@user-nv4jj4jt8j
@user-nv4jj4jt8j Жыл бұрын
knobface
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
Professor David Wilson now joins the opinion this case is a terrible misscarrige of justice. After investigating the crime he tells the Herald: "Luke Mitchell should never have been charged, let alone convicted"
@valyoung4104
@valyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
Yes quite an interesting read him stating ‘what I’ve seen gives me cause for concern’ ‘there is literally nothing - nothing I could uncover that warranted Luke even being charged’ ‘ this was not just a case of circumstantial evidence leading to a conviction, but one of literally no evidence at all’ and ‘there seemed to be a concerted press campaign to damage his character’ 😁 glad he has looked at this case and openly states his feelings on it - miscarriage of justice
@falcosirrus8620
@falcosirrus8620 Жыл бұрын
As he states, he based his opinion on pod casts, the tv show, snippets from the appeals and social media. Not on the full case papers and trial. An opinion that won't get Luke out of prison. Where do things stand with getting another appeal and samples tested?
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
@@falcosirrus8620 that's nothing to do with you 👍 it's coming but
@falcosirrus8620
@falcosirrus8620 Жыл бұрын
@@scottforbes7970 Ye, ok huffy pants. Though i would say that Luke is in prison to protect the public and i am a member of the public, so it does have something to do with me and everyone else.
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
@@falcosirrus8620 😉 you want to keep an inocent man, who was a child when set up, in jail, while protecting the no1 suspect, who you love. I want to get an inocent man out the jail and put the guilty in prison. But I get your dilemma
@scottishlass5437
@scottishlass5437 Жыл бұрын
Really need justice for Luke now, so that Jodi can finally rest in peace knowing the person/s that did this to her are finally locked up for taking her life, and most of Luke’s life too.. AWFUL WHATS HAPPENED HERE!!!
@AppleMak2010
@AppleMak2010 Жыл бұрын
Why was his defense team so inadequate given everything in this video which clearly makes him an unlikely perpetrator. What went on?
@jimmybhoy6438
@jimmybhoy6438 Жыл бұрын
Because there all one and the same. These prosecution teams and defence lawyers are all friendly. They all feed from the same gravy train. Plus the state has all the money it needs for a conviction. The defence dont
@AppleMak2010
@AppleMak2010 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmybhoy6438 I think sadly you are right. What price Justice?
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@@AppleMak2010 Also the defence never were aware of all of the evidence. The jury who were from nearby would have been brainwashed by all of the newspaper fabrications/ Sky TV interviews and of course the local thugs in uniform!! Luke was named and photographed at 14 yrs old and was painted as a monster. Also the jury were all allowed to go home each day. This should never have been heard in this court, minds were already made up.This boy has lost his most important years due to corruption! Jodi deserves to be at peace and this won't happen until the truth is out!! they' know we know!!1
@jimmybhoy6438
@jimmybhoy6438 Жыл бұрын
@Anthony Little justice I think. Is for people with money
@AppleMak2010
@AppleMak2010 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmybhoy6438 Aye, and it's always been that way.
@AntonSlavik
@AntonSlavik Жыл бұрын
Good work guys. In the early 2000s I was considered goth-adjacent. In my neck of the woods we were all lumped in together as "moshers", basically anybody who didn't conform to the fashion of the time of wearing tacksuits. Long hair, dark clothes etc. It seems this perception was pretty widespread at the time. We also need to remember this wasn't long after Columbine in the US. It was exactly around this time an actual goth friend of mine was called into the Princial's office and quizzed about his wearing a black trenchcoat. They asked him if he was doing okay and had any plans for the school. The kicker is that the Columbine shooters were the farthest thing from an all-black wearing goth. People all over the world were paranoid of kids who looked any bit different.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
FYI - many cops had kids who did 'different'.
@gemmamoon335
@gemmamoon335 Жыл бұрын
All the evidence that's there should b available for re testing again fresh set of eyes and un biased team to investigate once and for all the both family need closure
@keithbanks7456
@keithbanks7456 Жыл бұрын
Can not just go to FMQ’s at Scottish parliament and shout a question from public gallery I know would probably get kicked out but might be worth it it’s televised thoughts??
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 5 ай бұрын
Luke Mitchell went before a court of Law with 20 Chapters of evidence against him, which is a Lot for a sole defendant. The High Court Judge & Jurors - Saw & Heard that evidence & found him Guilty, Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. And after only 5 hours adjudicating due to such a Strong case. The general public know Nothing of that Actual evidence. The biggest & longest trial in Scottish history, 42 days. He has had all the appeals he will Ever get & the Innocence Project rejected his application due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed Exactly what he did to this poor girl. He was also convicted that same day for being a long term drug dealer. He sold his drugs to fellow School kids, no matter who they were or how old they were. He carried his skunting knife daily to cut his hash. The knife that Disappeared, with The jacket And his balaclava. His behaviours in totality were so sociopathic Before this murder, the kids called him the savage. His own Brother testified Against him & he nor their father have had Anything to do with him since the trial Nor have they spoken to that so-called mother since. They sure as hell have Nothing to do with this Shameful campaign, which is nothing but a nefarious marketing ploy for Lean & Forbes to sell their books about Nothing & getting away with it Still because they know damn well that the public are totally in the dark about the Facts presented at Trial. Only the naive & the ignorant fall for it all. His highly sadistic Premeditated crime was so heinous & wicked it's likely that he'll Never get out. Sandra Lean & now Scott Forbes wrote books of BS to line their Own pockets & all the plotted media hoo ha for over 3 years on utube videos has some people hypnotised because that's the Whole Aim. Of Course they blame the cops, that's how Both lowly Con Artists rake in the hard-done-by members of society in particular. He tried to stage the scene as if a maniacal fiend had come across Jodi & somehow got her over & through that broken section of the stone wall & went berserk with a knife, yet she never made a sound. It's a Fact that most of the cuts were After death. He cajoled her with pot to Their place in the woods & knocked her out, had to, he was a simpy punk, the severe contusion on her brain told That story. He premeditated everything he did. The witness noticed the bulge in a pocket of the jacket. That had to be something substantial in the pocket to stand out in a jacket that was big & bulky for that twerp. Lean nor now Forbes, have Ever spoke about the contusion on Jodi's brain & it was substantial. They don't want Anyone to know that Jodi was knocked out cold. The bruising & abrasions were all to her head, neck & face areas Only, being punched & kicked when she was on the Ground. Their various BS stories saying that she was 'fighting for her life' are Not True. He thought he was smarter than the cops & told his mother that after the initial police questioning that night. She stated that Publicly in her interview with James English. He was Not & neither was She. She who worked hard to cover it all up. The crown put forth that he went back. In total he couldn't account for 3 hours. The police didn't know what time Jodi was attacked or died when speaking to him that night yet his false alibi was for that exact time frame of her death. What a Very telling Coincidence. Luke was Not home in that time frame of 5 to 5.30 & so, did not know if his brother was or not. Luke had left to meet Jodi before his brother got home from work. They reeled that poor lad into it the Next Day when the mother had sobered up. Their statements changed every time the cops went back to tell them info they found out, didn't match. They changed the alibi 3 times within the 1st week. Lean & Forbes have Never told that Fact. Jodi's grandmother, her sister & boyfriend realised they'd repeated to the cops what Luke had Told Them about the actions of the dog & so they amended their statement about that detail, that was All. Now I see that Lean has a big banner & posters as her next hoodwinking ploy, "MIA FOUND HER". The dog did Not climb over & through the V in the wall & so into the woods, ONLY Luke DID. It was proven that his torch did Not have the scope to have seen the body which was behind a big log & amongst bushes - on that pitch dark, rainy, starless night, At All. Lean always uses the wording of 'case papers' to Pretend that she had all the documents & all the statements from the trial, she does Not & Never has. She had paperwork from his defence lawyer for the appeal process from way back at that time, Nothing else. Over 40 police & seasoned investigators worked this case very carefully for a Long time. The police did an Excellent job to put that scumbag psychopathic child killer Exactly where he needs to be.
@haggi2132
@haggi2132 Жыл бұрын
An adult will have approximately 1.2-1.5 gallons (or 10 units) = 6.819135 litres of blood. Quality. Thank you, Roddy. AAA.
@lXlQueenofScots
@lXlQueenofScots 11 ай бұрын
Scott, your book has just popped through my letterbox!
@susanblack9705
@susanblack9705 Жыл бұрын
my heart beaks for luke the full justice system in this country is beyond belief a poor guy is behind bars for nothing no evidence shame on yous FREELUKEMITCHELL
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
There was 20 pages of evidence against him.his brothers evidence in court was the big one that got luke convicted. He's guilty.
@mrss9023
@mrss9023 Жыл бұрын
He's exactly where he should be.
@HumptyDumptysStepda
@HumptyDumptysStepda Жыл бұрын
@mrss9023 incorrect!
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
@@HumptyDumptysStepda why is she incorrect? Do tell.
@susanblack9705
@susanblack9705 Жыл бұрын
@@HumptyDumptysStepda PLEASE EXPLAIN I WILL SAY THIS ONCE LUKE IS BEHIND BARS FOR SOMEONE ELSE ACTIONS WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE ENLIGHING ME YOU CANT
@darrenneil4533
@darrenneil4533 Жыл бұрын
When the murder squad can’t follow a step by step murder scene idiot guide for dummies handbook things are looking grim!
@billyfivefive.
@billyfivefive. Жыл бұрын
Why not create a correctly worded letter with specific points spoken of on all these videos, that can be downloaded or sent by email on request where persons own details and signature can be added by all interested parties and be posted to their local politicians. if Luke had support I'm certain this support has grown considerably in recent years, and many more than 25,000 would take up the chance to lift this load from a lad who's lost so much.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 5 ай бұрын
Both con artists continue the Scam because they have their books of BS to sell ya. Mitchell has had all the appeals he will ever get & the Innocence Project rejected his application due to the overwhelming evidence against him. There is no legal avenue to go down for this highly sadistic child killer who premeditated everything he did. He tried to stage the scene because he thought he was smarter than the cops. He was Not.
@richardallan4594
@richardallan4594 Жыл бұрын
The brother killed Jodie and the mum and gran covered this up
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
Lies
@dodibl7917
@dodibl7917 Жыл бұрын
100%
@lisafraser6749
@lisafraser6749 Жыл бұрын
What a horrible comment with absolutely no evidence. Yet you all have the cheek to say LM was treated badly?
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
@@dodibl7917 moron
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
They must be super criminals to have managed that and framed luke mitchell while evading justice for twenty years.give your head a wobble you lot are beyond a joke.
@darrenneil4533
@darrenneil4533 Жыл бұрын
Where Zippy, George and Bungle Bear the lead detectives in this case?
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
You kids believe Humpty & Dumpty. 🤣
@richardallan4594
@richardallan4594 Жыл бұрын
I always thought growing up that Donald Findlay was Scotland top defence lawyer. But fuck me he dropped the ball big time with this case.
@ourwilliam2405
@ourwilliam2405 Жыл бұрын
Do you honestly think Findlay never loses cases?
@Chumba-iv5xb
@Chumba-iv5xb Жыл бұрын
@ Richard Allan. I did too.
@richardallan4594
@richardallan4594 Жыл бұрын
@@ourwilliam2405 of course not but he seem to have dropped the ball big time with this one
@ourwilliam2405
@ourwilliam2405 Жыл бұрын
@@richardallan4594 . Where do you think he failed? Even the appeal failed, Isn't it strange that all of Lukes's appeals have been against technicalities? Why not appea against what he was jailed for?
@jamesgraham999
@jamesgraham999 Жыл бұрын
DF was AT best man, I think your Joe y did u strip your sister naked? Was this due to her stealing hash from you 🤮
@gerryrowatt3480
@gerryrowatt3480 Жыл бұрын
Shotts is stacked to the ceilings with nude magazines and most of the the staff read them when the cells are searched as opposed to looking for real contraband. I was at Shotts and know those even in the stronger elements don’t believe he is guilty and those with the big mouths are usually quickly attitude adjusted. This is a liberty.
@gerryrowatt3480
@gerryrowatt3480 Жыл бұрын
@@mrss9023 you’re taking crap. Take it you’re a screw or no doubt you’ve a son up there who’s one of the clowns that spin yarns. Anyone with half of a brain knows this guy is innocent. It’s people like you who keep innocent’s in prisons with your judgmental attitude and think the justice system is beyond making mistakes.
@gerryrowatt3480
@gerryrowatt3480 Жыл бұрын
@@mrss9023 any convict worth their salt doesn’t worry about extra time for battering beasts. The fact he hasn’t been attacked tells its own story. You don’t know what you’re talking about. The cons you’re talking to must be the dumplings.
@mrss9023
@mrss9023 Жыл бұрын
@@gerryrowatt3480 And you know for sure that he's never been attacked? Although it can be quite difficult to get to him as he's on protection.
@gerryrowatt3480
@gerryrowatt3480 Жыл бұрын
@@mrss9023 I didn’t say he wasn’t. I’m telling you what the general consensus is in Shotts and in most areas where people know about cops and what they’ve done to this guy. You really need to take a long , hard, look at yourself, do your due diligence before you speak . I’m convinced you’re a screw or a cop ( or somehow related) and you’re good for listening to fairy tales and acting out on them. Don’t reply as you won’t be answered.. only offended with what I’ll say next to you. By the way, do you realise that in Shotts Allanton 1&2 are protected prisoners and are full of normal prisoners who are there for silly things like debts or just because they can’t handle the going’s on in mainstream due to mental health issues, etc. They would still attack someone if they thought someone was wrong in the way Luke was portrayed. Doesn’t happen. You have no clue about this stuff.
@darrenneil4533
@darrenneil4533 Жыл бұрын
I could have managed that crime scene far better than Lothian and borders murder squad! Who knew! The standards of policing from one officer to the next is very worrying!
@lXlQueenofScots
@lXlQueenofScots 11 ай бұрын
New sub from Ayrshire 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤
@jameskerr5621
@jameskerr5621 Жыл бұрын
It was in MIDLOTHIAN not West Lothian!
@Chumba-iv5xb
@Chumba-iv5xb Жыл бұрын
Well said val. free Luke.
@darrenneil4533
@darrenneil4533 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to guess that there are a set of procedures to be followed when police tip up to a murder scene so as to preserve the integrity of the evidence..................I’d love to know what the police thinking was behind moving Jodi’s body because it would have to be something very serious to even consider moving a dead body at a crime scene!
@bordersbhoy5284
@bordersbhoy5284 Жыл бұрын
this is Scotland's equivalent of the west memphis three. LM was stitched up. enny minny minny mo you are it. police Scotland decided he was it.
@ronm9101
@ronm9101 Жыл бұрын
So is this correct that no items were returned That belonged to others That may have wanted back Can individuals make a legal case for those items
@darrenneil4533
@darrenneil4533 Жыл бұрын
Taggart will be turning in his grave!
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 5 ай бұрын
You kids believe Humpty & Dumpty.
@darrenneil4533
@darrenneil4533 5 ай бұрын
@bethryan9077 😂 Humpty Dumpty was one person! 😂 Unless your telling me his middle name is &! You’d be shite at collecting crime scene evidence going by your Humpty & Dumpty fiasco!
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 5 ай бұрын
@@darrenneil4533 Oh Really, my bad, I thought it was an ugly ass egg that fell off it's perch. An egg has two parts. Both parts turn into a very bad Smell. BTW - Humpty Dumpty was anthropomorphic - non human but with human attributes. Obviously you'd be shite at any investigation.
@scottyboy308
@scottyboy308 Жыл бұрын
Let's get another protest together to make the justice system listen to the people of Scotland about the circumstances surrounding the incident of corruption matters and the factual evidence set free
@drchorizo4321
@drchorizo4321 10 ай бұрын
Dobbie should be jailed for a very long time as well as the real killer , I like Scott I’d like to get in contact with him
@octoboss2443
@octoboss2443 Жыл бұрын
What has his legal team got to say about this? Will they be bringing proceedings for having hidden evidence from the initial legal team. Doesn't appear to be much noise from them.
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
Thought forbes and lean were his legal team?
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol it all seems very quiet you would think they would make a statement about this dna etc instead of they two ?
@valyoung4104
@valyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
@@Destiny93134 why? Why should they disclose full info to the likes of you? There is plenty going on but all will not be disclosed to the public at this time. Not sure why you want more info when you only slander the info that is being released. Interesting to know your very curious though lol.
@valyoung4104
@valyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol speaks volumes of the person you are slandering people trying to investigate what perv left sperm on a murdered child - your a complete waste of space
@octoboss2443
@octoboss2443 Жыл бұрын
@@Destiny93134 My understanding is that Scott is not fully qualified/practicing though there was something about him practicing under his maiden name,lol. They are just his PR team.
@nevau6053
@nevau6053 Жыл бұрын
hi sandra just wondering if they found the victums dna on the out side of the condom they found near the scene? did they even test the outside of the condom?
@dodibl7917
@dodibl7917 Жыл бұрын
Apparently they mucked that up too
@jamesgraham999
@jamesgraham999 Жыл бұрын
They recently found Steven Kelly’s blood on Jodi’s bra, also I have sisters I LIVE with and we don’t wear each other’s spunked t-shirts 🤮😂
@shonabeggs4640
@shonabeggs4640 10 ай бұрын
​@@jamesgraham999It is a bizarre theory that a young girl apparently going out to meet her boyfriend, would do so in a pre worn top. Most girls that age want to look and smell clean and fresh, whether meeting a boyfriend or anyone else in public. Is the family and home dirty does anyone know?.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
@@jamesgraham999 To say his blood was on her bra is Not True.
@Ron.M-yo9ht
@Ron.M-yo9ht 6 ай бұрын
It is true for whatever reason the pathologists didn't want to find access to the crime scene She must have told a police officer that she was going away And no police person helped her to access the crime scene Who was incharge of this crime scene
@77rmp
@77rmp Жыл бұрын
There's an article from 2013 about semen samples and getting tests. Is this the same evidence they're talking about?
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
No different swabs that have never been seen beforec
@77rmp
@77rmp Жыл бұрын
@scottforbes7970 that's massive, how can they not have checked these!!
@scottforbes7970
@scottforbes7970 Жыл бұрын
@@77rmp there was a lot of forensics 'hidden'. Along with possible murder weapon, green parka coat(supposed to be burnt) burnt clothing remains, Jodi phycology reports etc
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
@@scottforbes7970 LMAO, it's taken you & your cohort 20 years to come up with that latest Lie.
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
Its midlothian not west ffs.
@tuesdayjam5905
@tuesdayjam5905 Жыл бұрын
You need to stop interupting your guests m8.....they are ones who are informed about this case. There's nothing worse than having informed people on these chat podcasts, but the host won't shut up and stop interupting them.......thing is - you risk sounding like someone who likes he sound of his own voice. So, wee word of advice, when you have guests on who are really really interesting, lets hear them.
@chagathomson8983
@chagathomson8983 Жыл бұрын
Free Luke
@ourwilliam2405
@ourwilliam2405 6 ай бұрын
Alan Turnbull: Where were you originally intending to go? Dc Alan Towers: Originally, Newbattle police station which is only a few hundred yards from the school Alan Turnbull: I see. And did you set off in the car with that in mind Alan Turnbull: No, eventually, we, that was in mind, but Luke explained his mother had a problem with transportation to Newbattle
@scotwed
@scotwed Жыл бұрын
The human body holds 10 pints of blood
@jacqueline4905
@jacqueline4905 Жыл бұрын
7 stone women versus stone 13 stone man?? Naw
@fearnpol4938
@fearnpol4938 Жыл бұрын
@@jacqueline4905 the average adult has 5 litres of blood women have on average less than men.
@jacqueline4905
@jacqueline4905 Жыл бұрын
@fearnpol4938 I still work in pints. As far as I know, I have 8 pints. I'm a 5.5 slim woman. Gave blood for years, but they only took 2 thirds because I didn't reach the weight. Whatever that was? My Dad had a semi rare blood type (can't remember). AB - ?. He also gave plasma...not sure...I just remember him being called at all hours. I'm sure he gave blood every 8 weeks. This farse of a conviction stinks. Where is the EVIDENCE? POOR BOY NOW A MAN
@peterparkinson1096
@peterparkinson1096 Жыл бұрын
"But they also heard, from another source, that a deal was made not to use the DNA evidence, although this was never confirmed and there seemed to be no logical reason for the defence agreeing to such a deal" Question time Ms Lean ----- This is from IB, P.198. This is 2018, and it is nonsense, is it not? That one still refuses to acknowledge that this agreement has without doubt, been confirmed many times. Let me apply the correct context, for people to see, just how different this is, when in context. Luke Mitchell heard an agreement taken place at his trial, one made in his presence between DF and AT. The basis of the agreement was, to not discuss further, DNA, which was not going to be used as evidence --- Evidence of existence but NOT evidence of murder. So, they took certain DNA, they agreed the following fully, "That there was nothing found that could not be innocently explained away" NO DNA ,that could be used in connection with any crime being committed, such as the murder. That applies to anyone. Now let us look at the following - "There was no forensic evidence directly linking Luke Mitchell to the murder" Not and never, that there was no DNA of LM's present. Two separate entities. Question - Did you ask Luke Mitchell who the source was? If not then why not? Or, alternatively, did you not have to ask him for you already knew who that source was? - We don't require a question as an answer, just a straight forward answer to the actual question, please. To blank source, to apply the word evidence - Transforms the reality around the forensics, the samples obtained and tested. In brief it gives room at all times to manipulate away from the truth, does it not?
@valyoung4104
@valyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
Why try steer away from what is happening now? It has now been established that There are samples not tested and they have not been destroyed that we (Luke’s support) will fight to have tested - end off MR PARKINSON 😁
@valyoung4104
@valyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol 👍
@GusMac6129
@GusMac6129 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol Remember and bring your green parker, in case it's raining.
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
She wont reply she only answers to those that kiss her arse and say how wonderful she is.anything that doesnt fit her narrative gets ignored.
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 5 ай бұрын
@@NancyBears Simple Sandy Said - "It's like when ya building with Leggo blocks & what model ya want ta build". "I'll use - condom lad, scratchy face lad, moped lads, dog walker man, stocky man who turned into stalker lad, the invisible man & every member of Jodi's family". 🤗"That's all I need, chuck em all in a box & I'll write another book with the added extra of slamming into the ground, all police & homicide detectives". 😏Ka-Ching. 🥳 I'll also build an army of numpties to help market me & my second book of BS whilst following my smell around & loving me up on my fooltube shows. 😊YES!🤡👺🧟‍♀👾🗣🤬🧙‍♂🥷😵‍💫🧟🐒🐕‍🦺"That was easy for someone like me." 👹 "And Soo worth it". 💰😅 "And now I can afford to buy Lukey boy a special present that I know he'll love". 🔪
@lizmacleod8903
@lizmacleod8903 Жыл бұрын
The human body carries approximately 1 pint of blood per stone of body weight .
@ThomasRobertson-ox5ur
@ThomasRobertson-ox5ur 9 ай бұрын
I tell u now the granny wouldn't wash them clothes as thay would be 2 sentimental 2 her
@dmgsoultogetherness6667
@dmgsoultogetherness6667 Ай бұрын
someone hasnt done their homework jeez oh
@scottyboy308
@scottyboy308 Жыл бұрын
A peaceful protest outside the parliament I'm on catch up with the video but it won't hurt to have another protest
@bethryan9077
@bethryan9077 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's always a laugh to watch a gang in drag.
@scottyboy308
@scottyboy308 Жыл бұрын
I'm angry at the top and the players who are so corrupt it's a disgrace to the Scottish legal system of law which looks well dodgy from top to bottom of the coppers ooooff
@Pillion1
@Pillion1 6 ай бұрын
All trials tithe same. Why would his be any different?
@Pillion1
@Pillion1 6 ай бұрын
Was it monetary value? Surely not on Fay One 😂😂
@davywilson21
@davywilson21 Жыл бұрын
Host should do less talking and let Sandra and Scott, the experts of this case, speak more
@barrheadboy1684
@barrheadboy1684 Жыл бұрын
Here I have a better idea,you start your own podcast, then you can do it the way you want that you think is best for the topic being covered. Then you can tell arseholes that post stupid comments about what you should do to do one!
@davywilson21
@davywilson21 Жыл бұрын
@@barrheadboy1684 No need to start swearing at folk in the comments 😂 It's a bit of constructive criticism. I just think it might have been better to let Sandra and Scott tell the story rather than you trying to tell it on their behalf. Ps - I appreciate you helping to spread the message of the case.
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
'Experts' 😂
@barrheadboy1684
@barrheadboy1684 Жыл бұрын
​@davywilson21 Again not your concern go and start your own podcast. My house,my rules.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@@Destiny93134 Yes! Definately......after 19 years I think that expert does describe them!
@0Davie0
@0Davie0 Жыл бұрын
Going to play devils advocate here. But this is disappointing. I was expecting something different, but it really is much of the same from other podcasts these 2 have done. What I also find extremely disappointing, that they continue to ignore much of the evidance that convicted Luke in the first place. Especially his alibi. His jacket, his knife as well as much more. To simply say, he never owned such items , is not good enough. I would also like to know how any new forensic evidance, that would be classed as circumstancal would solve an already solved case? Farther, I would also like to know/interpret the scottish criminal commission reasons for refusal at the last appeal, which if I'm not mistaken, was based around the forensic evidance. If what these 2 say, is a sure thing, then why are we still here? Why has no proper legal team bothered to take this on, also if I'm also not mistaken other MOJ organisations have looked at it, but took things no farther.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol Ah yes!! The girl who said AFTER Luke was taken funny that eh? Never went to the police but to the spewspapers ££££! Another fairy tale!!
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol I just have the common sense to know he's innocent, Have you even processed the actual facts of this or are you just so afraid of the truth? These teenagers were told to say bad things about Luke! They may have met the same psycho that Jodi did.
@0Davie0
@0Davie0 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol I think there is a problem with transparency here. There is obviously a reason why this has failed at the appeal process multiple times. I have asked these questions multiple times in the past to no avail. To think I have donated in the past and bought a book, only to be lead down the garden path, with more promises of groundbreaking evidance etc. Seems like the same stuff is being recycled but worded in diffrent ways to gain traction/reactions.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting? No replies?
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol You didn't know about the threats made to witnesses? How the jury were led to believe fabrications and since then have been sick to now realise the lies that were told? Why were the details of the report from the F.B.I.showing that the profile of the killer didn't match Luke all blacked out? I am prepared to listen to anyone with solid evidence proving Lukes guilt ....but in 18+ years it's all been the lies fed to the public by the uniformed thugs and the media. .
@DerekCooperDeek
@DerekCooperDeek 4 ай бұрын
Police corruption
@ourwilliam2405
@ourwilliam2405 3 ай бұрын
hes guilty as sin
@kristin_NZ
@kristin_NZ Жыл бұрын
grifters! he's guilty as sin. Innocence Fraud is a big money spinner these days, you are all on the gravy train. CREEPS
@stevebbuk9557
@stevebbuk9557 Жыл бұрын
Scotland's own killed Jodi. In a sense it's a relief it wasn't an outsider, so cliquey in many ways has Scotland become.
@basilcfaulty-hh7575
@basilcfaulty-hh7575 Жыл бұрын
Car crash podcast. Not much brain cells needed to see through this.
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
Its embarrassing i honestly dunno how these two can think they are took serious.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@groundkontrol Have you learned nothing? Aye, cos he could have scrubbed every inch of his body/ clothes/ hair/ ( even when his hair/ nails/ neck were dirty when tested!) As the forensic expert said he would have been seen, would have to have touched door handles, water taps, You obviously missed the report.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@@Destiny93134 ...'Took ' serious! No wonder some folk can't grasp the truth!!🤡
@kerrytk5768
@kerrytk5768 Жыл бұрын
​@groundkontrol 6 hrs 😂 absolute nonsense, he was in house 5pm making food. He was out at the wall by the end of his road at 6pm with friends & that's fact corroborated sightings by a few others. The Jones's your clearly talking about. The brother was seen following her 5pm & that was ignored by the police. Think you need to look at actual facts.
@JJLMWhoGotJustice
@JJLMWhoGotJustice Жыл бұрын
​@groundkontrol every single thing you use in your debates are from main stream media. It's really unfortunate that you've been duped to badly, like many others and this isn't just you, but I would suggest you actually look into the 1000s of facts publicly available. Those who have actually researched this are really very bored hearing this same nonsense over and over. I wish you the best of luck
@jasonpurdie3409
@jasonpurdie3409 Жыл бұрын
Think the sister asked if she was naked, because she knew who dumped body and he probably left the seamen ,there's probably a few did this , what a cover-up
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
Yep, and granny said 'oh it's bad'!!
@lisafraser7896
@lisafraser7896 Жыл бұрын
​@@rosierubble0723 of course a grandmother seeing the mutilated body of her grand daughter would say "it's bad"! When my mum passed away very suddenly I remember laughing in shock at the hospital. I was completely numb. So someone asking, or saying, what those not in the circumstances would find weird, is perfectly reasonable to those in shock. Asking "is she naked" could be a way of finding out the likelihood of it being a rape. Which, for a sister, would be a huge fear. The recording of LM phoning police does not sound like the panicked shocked reaction of a 14 year old finding his mutilated girlfriend (which is why those in court were surprised DF actually played it). Now you could say that was also shock where he shut down. But too much is made of what people said in a state of shock and grief.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 Жыл бұрын
@@lisafraser7896 OR....could have meant it was worse than she thought it was going to be! Remember the three of them knew exactly where Jodi was to be found hence their reason for getting Luke to walk back to where they'd already passed. It's all in the original statements before they changed stories numerous times.
@Destiny93134
@Destiny93134 Жыл бұрын
A perfectly natural thing to say but sadly twisted to make it sound sinister.
@rosierubble0723
@rosierubble0723 7 ай бұрын
@@lisafraser7896 Yet, not only seen that horrific sight but 'cradled her in her arms' but then told Ferris & Dickie to keep low for 5 days, never had her clothes examined ( only Luke was stripped) 5 days later when the clever constables went to ask for clothing for forensic she couldn't remember what she was wearing! Then all clothes had been washed! What a circus!! Then there was Dickies spaniels had been at the place where Jodie was 'put' & he had blood on his boot! Examined? NO! The path had been bleached also and you all know it WASN'T Luke!
@rfc5649
@rfc5649 Жыл бұрын
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