M2 Pro Mac mini vs world's first *Core i9* micro PC!

M2 Pro Mac mini vs world's first Core i9 micro PC!

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The Mac mini has been a staple of the Apple Silicon lineup- a great value option with strong performance and a reasonable price tag! But nowadays, as Intel is upping their performance game, there's a lot more competition from UCFFs- Ultra Compact Form Factor PCs. These things can get pretty fast, in fact Geekom sent over their new IT13 which comes packing a core i9 13900h, a first for UCFFs. Today we'll put it through its paces and see how this upgradable little box compares to Apple's most powerful Mac mini offering
time stamps
0:00 Mac mini design isn't very mini
1:11 IT13 Unboxing
3:07 Easy upgrades!
4:20 I/O
4:49 Performance benchmarks
6:29 Fan noise
7:01 Thermal testing
7:50 GPU comparison
8:28 Interesting performance results
9:12 Value differences
10:01 Key takeaway: smol computr good
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@BattleshipAgincourt 7 ай бұрын

Apple should have filled that empty space in the Mini with upgradable storage modules. Regrettably that would negate their ability to charge a premium for non-upgradable storage.

@tonyburzio4107 7 ай бұрын

FALSE. The case fits on standard racks in server farms.

@CouldBeMathijs 7 ай бұрын

@@tonyburzio4107 OKAY, they still could have used the space for something else though

@chidorirasenganz 7 ай бұрын

Utilizing the space would mean that when the mini gets its redesign it won’t be able to get much if any smaller

@chromaticvisuelle 7 ай бұрын

Agreed! Upgrades are so stupidly expensive

@ms1-Alex 7 ай бұрын

You can’t really upgrade too much an ARM processor. Except for the storage. Like on any phone you will expect to have an upgradable ram, you d lost the advantages of an arm processor if you take ram separated

@brafya 7 ай бұрын

dont make it smaller "just because". the mac mini is small enough, its good enough. the reason they're sticking to the same shell is because of the literal hundreds of thousands if not millions server rack units that slot these right in, this target demographic far outweighs regular consumers who put these on their desks as far as i know.

@jordansmith7621 7 ай бұрын

RE: server racks. You easily could make a 3D holder that’s the same size at the current mini, and fit a smaller one inside of it. That way they can shrink the size of the mini (because ya know; that’s the point of it being called .. mini) but they can sit retrofit it into server racks

@belugabruh9112 7 ай бұрын

@@jordansmith7621 but 3d printing would take time so apple would have to include it with the mac mini which is very unlikely 😁

@TheRealMafoo 7 ай бұрын

"this target demographic far outweighs regular consumers who put these on their desks" And as mini PC's get better and better, this statement will get more and more true.

@jordansmith7621 7 ай бұрын

@@TheRealMafoo wrong. Everyone benefits from smaller computer parts and chassis while still retaining high performance.

@productamadeus8745 7 ай бұрын

I think on some level….you kinda feel like you got cheaped out if this thing looked like a Apple TV. People want some “heft” on their desktops.

@Frank-in-NY 6 ай бұрын

Impressive! I use my Mac Mini M2 for Studio Recording. The benefit has been it's dead quiet, no noisy fans. This Geekom seems to have overcome the heat/fan problems and can certainly provide more bang for the buck.

@SmallBoxCentral 7 ай бұрын

Mini PC's have come such a long way in just a few years. I just did a review of the Minisforum UM790 Pro, that thing is a beast with a Ryzen 9 processor. Would love to see you compare that with a Mac Mini!

@chidorirasenganz 7 ай бұрын

Lmao I was coming here just to say that 😅

@akin242002 7 ай бұрын

I agree. The Minisforum UM 790 is great for video editing, given it's size, and excellent for programmers.

@richard.20000 7 ай бұрын

Intel 13900H has CPU with 14 cores (6+8) and 20 threads with max boost frequency 5.4 GHz. Apple M2 Pro has CPU with 10 core (6+4) and 10 threads with max boost frequency 3.5 GHz. And yet Apple M2 beats Intel. I'm pretty sure Apple has way lower power consumption, too bad it was not measured. Apple M2 has 45% higher IPC (performance / GHz) than Intel Raptor Lake or AMD Zen 4, which mean Apple CPU is at least 5 years ahead Intel and AMD competition. New Nuvia Oryon ARM CPU gets 3227 pts in GB6 ST which smokes every desktop PC. IPC at M2 level while Orion having 12 big cores only. ORYON is a new laptop beast. Further other companies announced laptop ARM SoC: Nvidia, Mediatek and AMD is working on ARM CPU again too. Intel's x86 platform is dead. Every CISC x86 (16 and 32 bit legacy blob) is running on internal RISC core (since 1995 P6 Pentium Pro) which is fast but not effective. That inefficiency was OK for decades for desktop PCs but it cannot fight with super powerful pure 64-bit RISC CPUs from smart phone (blob free). That's a fact.

@akin242002 7 ай бұрын

@@richard.20000 Apple beats Intel in power efficiency, yes. This is important for laptops and cellphones. For desktops, drastically less for individuals. Geekbench 6 multi-core scores: Intel i9 13900h 12977 Apple M2 CPU 10094 Apple M2 Pro CPU 12222

@chidorirasenganz 7 ай бұрын

@@akin242002 power efficiency matters everywhere. As power is not free and the more power you need the more heat that is generated. Which requires more cooling/noise/power. Also the scores you posted were multi core which is what the post you replied to was about. Most programs and interactions with an OS are single core tasks. Multicore is irrelevant outside a few niche use cases

@Olli-Tech 7 ай бұрын

I really love the Mac mini design. It's really hard to find something that esthetic.

@igorbalen3389 7 ай бұрын

You can buy yourself a beautiful vase

@Olli-Tech 7 ай бұрын

But there is no M processor inside 😅@@igorbalen3389

@another3997 7 ай бұрын

Get yourself a large photo of a Mac Mini, put it in a frame and mount it on a wall. Apple would probably sell you such an item for $500! 😂

@shaggyfeng9110 7 ай бұрын

Yes, the apple one is so much more beautiful than the PC one. I have a gaming desktop and a gaming laptop that made my room look like a part of a cool factory. The Mac mini + dock connected to the same monitor simply looks more crafted like a piece of art.

@shaggyfeng9110 7 ай бұрын

@@igorbalen3389 Being able to buy a beautiful vase does not mean the esthetic of tools are worthless. After all, it is more expensive to hide a PC and still be able to access all the ports with a dedicated desk.

@TravelingSolo 7 ай бұрын

The external power supply sort of defeats the purpose of a compact unit. Combined, you’re not gaining much over the Mac other than separation. I have a monitor with an external brick and I can’t stand it.

@arturoehr 7 ай бұрын

It’s cheaper than the m2 pro

@TravelingSolo 7 ай бұрын

@@arturoehr That's not exactly true when people start looking at machines, since the entry level M2 is less than the i7 linked here, and you have to assume the i9 he is reviewing is going to push that number even higher and people will pay attention to the entry level pricing. You might get more specs for your money, in terms of storage or number of cores, but those numbers may not mean much to the typical user. Then again, it's not just about specs - your typical consumer would likely never feel much of a performance difference between a 512GB M2 mini and a 1TB i7 IT13, for instance. With pricing so similar, a huge part of this decision will be driven by user experience, presentation, and OS/software.

@adriano760 7 ай бұрын

@@TravelingSolothe i5 one is cheaper

@TravelingSolo 7 ай бұрын

@@adriano760 A Chromebook would be even cheaper than that, but it's sort of defeating the purpose to keep going backwards lol

@JonathanJK 7 ай бұрын

One advantage is if the power brick fails.

@MarketMessage 7 ай бұрын

Very interesting device - I would be very interested to see how it does with linux instead of windows. The price difference with the Apple mini solutions will make me think very hard about what are the needs are. If I don't need to create apple applications or use Mac only apps .. this would be a very viable solution. Now I will be looking forward to laptops with similar horsepower as I've been spoiled with my fanless m1 air for a few years now!

@lankylonky22 4 ай бұрын

@@escobarvthat device is an overkill for home server

@JeffHorne 7 ай бұрын

With temps that low on the PC, my guess is that it was set to a power saving mode on the PC or in windows. Especially since it was only pulling 35 watts. They probably allow temps to get up into the 90s in the correct mode, and pull more wattage and clock speed.

@dlewis9760 7 ай бұрын

"Correct mode"? Odd choice of words. Any mode provided is "Correct". The end result that counts is price/performance for the intended use.

@JeffHorne 7 ай бұрын

@@dlewis9760 I see I’ve met my match in pedanticness. By “correct” mode, I meant “maximum performance mode”, since you indeed want to be comparing the computers to see which capable of the highest performance.

@another3997 7 ай бұрын

@@JeffHornePerformance isn't the only metric. Let's face it, for the last few decades, Apple fans have placed far more importance on the aesthetics of their devices than actual performance. "Yes, it's slower than that cheap PC, but who cares? Mine LOOKS better!"

@StephenRosenbach 7 ай бұрын

You made yet another amazingly informative AND entertaining video, and I'm gobsmacked at the performance of the IT3 - thanks so much. I use an iMac daily for Lightroom and Photoshop, and I like it, but I'm a Windows guy at heart. My Toshiba i7 17" laptop from 2013 just went up on me, and I just might like to go for an IT3 to replace it (I don't need the portability, I have an Acer Spin 5 for that) as I have a 27" Acer monitor. Thanks again, Luke!

@SuperFredAZ 7 ай бұрын

Great review, I have a Minisforum $300 machine based on the Ryzen 5 4500U (16 GB, 512 NVMe). I can easily upgrade the dram to 64 GB, and the NVMe to 1,2 or 4 TB I use this as a backup to my main computer. I don't game and this micro-pc is perfectly fine for all my "normal "work-flow", Office, web-surfing, etc.

@j340_official 7 ай бұрын

Those geekom usb4 ports support eGPUs right ? Unlike Apple silicon which usb4/thunderbolt ports do support pcie tunneling, but not eGPUs because no Radeon or nvidia ARM drivers for macOS. Also, it will be interesting to see how the geekom mini pc performs (in terms of performance per watt) when it is outfitted with a meteor lake core ultra 9.

@ArielGonzalez1 7 ай бұрын

i'm pretty sure usb4 is thunderbolt compatible, so it should support eGPUs

@Shimeih 7 ай бұрын

It does support egpu. Just not any gpu

@j340_official 7 ай бұрын

@@Shimeih which AMD or nvidia GPU is supported on Apple silicon?

@sam.ruesink 7 ай бұрын

@@j340_official None- none of the silicon macs support eGPUs. I believe they're saying these windows machines do.

@j340_official 7 ай бұрын

@@sam.ruesink oh cool ! 😎 that’s what I was speculating in my original comment

@c0rnd0g_19 7 ай бұрын

I replaced my i5 Intel NUC with an M1 Mac Mini 3 years ago. The NUC was nowhere as refined as this mini PC. The simplest task would spin the fans up to max, I hated it. Good job by Geekom or whoever designed this! The construction actually looks like a real Intel NUC!

@c0rnd0g_19 5 ай бұрын

@@JosephSeed Dude, this was in 2020 that I switched (see the 3 years ago part...). I'm also complementing the Geekom mini PC, not the Mac Mini. It was an 8th Gen i5. I've been using PC's since 1990 and switched my main rig to Mac. Not sure why picking the product I like better at the time makes me a cultist?

@massimodemajo 7 ай бұрын

Great video as usual 😊 It would be interesting to see if the GEEKOM could run MacOs as a hackintosh. Would you try that?

@tiqo8549 7 ай бұрын

Years ago i got a Intel Nuc 8th gen. I put it in a fanless case, and until this day it's running Hackintosh just fine. I also own a M1 mini, but to me they are both just fine. Mini pc's are the way to go for the next coming years!

@BoatDawg 7 ай бұрын

My mac envy is over! Thanks for the review.

@rapideyephotography9782 7 ай бұрын

A very fair review. Thanks Luke

@Stevel_ 7 ай бұрын

I might actually buy this mini PC...looks awesome. I've been using Mac's and PCs off and on since the late 80s, but have been back in the PC camp for a while now since Mac's lost upgradability. I just like to be able to tinker with things and upgrade myself. Hope that comes back to Mac someday.

@kevinsturges6957 6 ай бұрын

I’d love to see how a music studio program like Steinberg Cubase, and several instrument vsts run in that little i9 computer.

@bugged1212 7 ай бұрын

Nice, exactly what I was thinking about!

@bitkahuna 6 ай бұрын

great to see you venturing out beyond the apple world, and great video!!

@kevinmiles5770 3 ай бұрын

Ia m curious as the weight of the mini-PC. Yes, I know you can mount it with a visa mount on the back of your monitor, they make those for the mac mini as well. I used to have the M1 Mac Mini mounted under my desk. But, one thing I noticed with the Mac mini was it was light so light (even with the power supply inside) I often had trouble with plugging accessories in. the Light weight would make the Mac mini pop a wheelie. So, back to my question is mini-pc light weight and does that create a similar problem when you start plugging externals into it?

@bb5242 7 ай бұрын

it13 is pre-order only, when do they actually come out?

@aymanazmi8809 7 ай бұрын

I like the "you would not believe you" & time machine part 🙂

@alainterieur794 7 ай бұрын

I think this Geekom micro-PC is a good deal for what it does. It's indeed impressive!

@peanutnutter1 7 ай бұрын

For the same price i'd go for the Beelink Ser7 because of the 780M graphics.

@dadabooey 7 ай бұрын

Yup, I am a big fan of mini-pc's ... especially the ones from Minisforum!

@paulrine7447 7 ай бұрын

In the Philippines, I have an online gaming computer cafe. I think this is now a viable option for upgrading the computers to something that preforms better and is a lot less vulnerable to lagging that I can sometimes see on my current 10 machines. Along with less breakdowns from the issues that come with using older machines in huge cases.

@rph_redacted 7 ай бұрын

Having a power adapter outside helps a lot to avoid unnecessary heat in the machine. Apple can easily make a tiny mac mini and power it using a MacBook pro charging brick. a M2 mac mini can easily work in an apple TV box size.

@drts_map 7 ай бұрын

it is nice to know that this mini pc has additional nvme slot for egpu,, from the benchmark, we cannot rely solely on the integrated graphics card to play high demanding games...i wonder whether we can use the USB4 ports for eGPU like razer core x and asus xg pro

@Epicgamer_Mac 7 ай бұрын

Great video Luke

@Jman33333 7 ай бұрын

App looks great, really excited to use this! Been waiting for an app like this for years. I think health and fitness integrations is a very natural next step.

@nathanarrowsuch5014 14 күн бұрын

bes video ive seen on the topic, loved it! Im not too tech savvy but I understood everything!!! Id love to see a video on setting up a simple nas for home, have you done one?! Keep up the good work :)

@Treydmusicmedia 7 ай бұрын

I realize that I'm late to this video. However, have you tested the two minis using photo and music processing apps (i.e. real world usage tests)?

@tekman4932 5 ай бұрын

I like the Geekom because you can easily upgrade the memory RAM and the storage, but will it get slow down?

@rebertaschb3736 7 ай бұрын

• Is there a way to add a Thunderbolt conector (install) on the it 13 ??? my sound card is thunderbolt apollo 16. If so im considering it !!

@level7041 5 ай бұрын

What is the warranty like and how do you get it serviced?

@xmetal280 7 ай бұрын

I have a bunch of Macs, and even a full gaming PC, but I picked up a super-cheap AMD micro system and it is absolutely perfect for my retro and light-gaming duties hooked up to my main TV entertainment area. It's silent, completely disappears in the cabinet, uses bluetooth to a genuine Xbox controller and is a joy to use. Amazing value, really, and while a Mac will always be my primary machine those tiny PCs have a wide variety of valuable uses.

@pauljazzman408 7 ай бұрын

I wonder if you could get more speed out of the mini pc with some tweaks? I would consider getting one for pc games like Starfield. It’s good that micro pc’s are snapping at Apple’s heals. Maybe then they’ll offer more base ram (I think they are about too) and more base storage of a reasonable speed . I had to upgrade to 1Tb in my M2 Pro Mac mini to get the faster ssd speed. I don’t like Apple cheapening out on low ram and speeds in in base models.

@Lomaxxx 7 ай бұрын

5:19 nice DJ pult with all that disco light

@MotownBatman 7 ай бұрын

I Like the MacMini Design Im a PC/Linux N00b who Switched finally with the M1 in 2020

@user-zd7id9rx3f 7 ай бұрын

What is the maximum amount of main memory it can support?

@healthwisevibes 7 ай бұрын

I have a question someone help me decide I just started my marketing agency and i need a laptop. I have got 3 deals right now that are confusing me (maybe) All refurbished 1- macbook pro 13 2017 i5/8/128 for 375$ 2- macbook pro 13 2017 i7/16/256 For 475$ with touch bar 3- macbook air 13 2020 m1/8/256 for 725$ Which one would you choose ?

@taidee 7 ай бұрын

These PCs are really amazing for the space they take up.

@bashdachivo 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Luke 🎉

@RobloxianX 7 ай бұрын

I would like to see this density in a Mini ITX case, like lets say Velka 3 size. Imagine how much more you could do with this if you at least had a dedicated GPU

@sirena7116 7 ай бұрын

If I needed a new pc and wanted something small for windows, I would absolutely buy a Geekom PC.

@Chosenite 7 ай бұрын

GEEKOM Mini IT13 13th Gen is not available on Amazon UK. Why not? Thnaks

@thaisara 7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@disklamer 4 ай бұрын

I would be interested to see how this performs when running macos.

@Xe4ro 7 ай бұрын

How are the thermals if you let both run for a couple hours doing cpu intensive stuff?

@TheDanEdwards 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, notice how Luke does not put both of them *into* (individual) shelves and monitor the temps?

@Xe4ro 7 ай бұрын

SMOOREZ has done a review on one of these and had thermal problems but it seems to be a cool little machine, I'd rather still get a Mini though ^^

@denisdeslauriers7277 7 ай бұрын

I'm still amazed how PCs can keep up with Macs performance wise at a much lower cost.

@user-ss7uo6ko6m 7 ай бұрын

Does the Geekcom i9 config support eGPUs?

@just.bob.j 7 ай бұрын

During the tests you didn't tell us if higher or lower is better or worse?

@CleberToreto 3 ай бұрын

I think that, after your review, the big question is: Can the Geekom edit a 4k video in Davinci Resolve as fluid as the Mac mini? If yes, we have a great contender and a viable intel alternative to Apple M silicon with real expandability

@JohnSmith-gb6tg 7 ай бұрын

What's your thoughts mod it with Core Legacy Patcher? and run Sonoma?

@ZhuJo99 7 ай бұрын

Mac mini runs Sonoma just fine. You mean Hackintosh that PC? You use regular Open Core, not legacy patcher. And no, it’s not possible because of unsupported graphics.

@JohnSmith-gb6tg 7 ай бұрын

@@ZhuJo99 Of course Mini 2018 and later runs Sonoma, duh ! Opencore is getting quite sophisticated, so I have no doubts they have ways to make Intel integrated graphics to work. I think Iris X runs with Opencore. That's the whole point of my post to see if this mini pc will run with Opencore (If it's a PC, of course it's Opencore for non-mac! I irk using "H...tosh", it doesn't deserve a negative moniker like that for what the group in Github has done for non-mac users.

@JasonTaylor-po5xc 7 ай бұрын

Glad to see Geekom finally putting 2.5g NIC in their systems. I've passed on them in the past simply because they still rocked 1g NICs. Mac Minis are still great for certain use cases because of their hardware execrated ProRes, H.264, and HEVC encoders and decoders - a part that would be 2k alone just a few years ago. I'm looking forward to an M3 refresh with AV1 built-in as well. You also have to factor in subjective things like some folks just don't like Windows and would prefer MacOS regardless of the price point. I would not use any of these MiniPCs as a serious Desktop but they do make great little project systems. I'd also point out these are all basically mobile/laptop CPUs, so don't expect full desktop performance (yeah, they still have a place).

@laserjakk3629 6 ай бұрын

Hi Jason, Mac Mini m2 pro or Geekom IT13 for me? I am a beatmaker/music producer from Brasil and here Dollar is 5x1, plus the fact of those products double the price when you buy here in Brasil. So a U$800,00 I will pay R$8.000,00 here. My concern is: 1- how does IT13 will perform/stability with a project with a lot of tracks, plugins VSTs opened against M2 Pro and 2-what about International Warranty buying this in US and bringing to Brasil, cuz I know Apple provide it and I can extend more 2 years apple care. I would like to have your opinion.

@JasonTaylor-po5xc 6 ай бұрын

@@laserjakk3629 That's interesting. I'm not really sure how getting service internationally works. I've had decent luck with Apple products but you do pay a premium for it. With any mini-PC (Geekdom, Minisforum, Beelink) you have the option to upgrade later (up to 64GB RAM and more storage) with Apple there is little to no upgrade path. But, if you plan to use Apple Logic for your music - they support an insane number of tracks. If you aren't using Logic, you might be better served with the PC route unless you know everything is M2 ready. Also, you might consider waiting until Spring for the next Apple event - it is possible they will update the MacMini with M3.

@dom1437 7 ай бұрын

That rise of the tomb raider score seems a far too low for the M2 Pro, are you sure it was 1920x1080, very high settings? I got ROTR recently and been playing very high at 1080p and we have two very different experiences to say the least

@LeicaCat 7 ай бұрын

Those gigantic power bricks are obnoxious though.

@Gogo8mkd 7 ай бұрын

Can the Mini PC be expanded with an external GPU?

@bradl2636 7 ай бұрын

What Win OS version does it ship with? And of the 4 versions they sell do they all ship with same OS?

@DozIT 7 ай бұрын

It varies. I have bought a few Beelink Mini PC's. They all came with Windows 11; most were pro variant (as that is what I needed for domain join).

@curtiselder6644 12 күн бұрын

You stated the Mac mini power supply was inefficient because the mini only needed 45 watts… you didn’t take into account the peripherals you can plug into the thunderbolt/usb ports that require power.

@riley4545 7 ай бұрын

Put both Mac and PC with their power cords and power bricks in separate ziplock bags and I bet the PC displaces more water than the Mac. Form factor was impressive until the power brick came out.

@synovium 6 ай бұрын

Now if this little beauty can be a a fully functional hackintosh then it is wonderful

@ricgl84 7 ай бұрын

Wouldn't be a better comparison with a Mac mini high spec M1?

@leedaq7767 7 ай бұрын

i don't understand why these window mini PC don't add internal fan. Would purchase it one if I could add 120mm fan

@DavidMalcolm 7 ай бұрын

I feel like Apple is really missing a lot of free publicity that they could get from launching a Mac nano. I think they'd get a lot of people nostalgic for the iPod nano, and they could proabbly make it about the size of like the original iPod. They could use one of the power supplies rom the MacBook Airs, make it fanless with an aluminum chassis that would act as a big heat sync, make it fanless. You'd get people putting them into all kinds of things.

@TheEmrickman 4 ай бұрын

Would be nice to see a comparison run on Davinci Resolve or Premiere pro.

@TheRealMafoo 7 ай бұрын

When talking about the general topic of mini PC vs Mac mini, keep in mind this is a sponsored video. He didn't go out and find the fastest mini PC. I suspect if he did, and compared it to the Mac Mini, he would be surprised at how fast it is.

@TheRealMafoo 7 ай бұрын

@@garrusvakarian8709 Ryzen 9 7940HS. It's slightly slower in CPU performance, however in the same form factor, you can crank it up. This 13900H in this mini PC is underclocked, so it doesn't overheat, so I suspect the AMD in the same box, would be faster. Also, the AMD is well over twice as fast in GPU performance. In some cases, closer to 4X

@akin242002 7 ай бұрын

@@TheRealMafooMinisforum UM 790 would be a better comparison since most MacMini users are also into video/photo editing. The iGPU on the Minisforum UM790 competes in that realm.

@beautifulportland9592 7 ай бұрын

That large bulky power supply is a deal breaker for me . . . . Sorry!

@radoslavtsepenishev3626 7 ай бұрын

I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the micro pc was not sponsored. Food for thought.

@FlyingHat 7 ай бұрын

Wouldn't it be possible to install a small fan in there and unlock the turbo on the CPU? Kinda mildly infuriating to have an i9 cpu locked at minimum power level.

@ken1w 7 ай бұрын

It could probably be the size of an Apple TV, but Mac mini doesn’t need to be any smaller, too easily yanked around by attached cables. It sits low on a desk. Keeping same external design allows users and server farms to use the same existing racks to hold it, if not sitting on desk. Also nice for existing “zero foot print” peripherals that fit perfectly below Mac mini. I’m happy it still mostly looks the same as old ones with Intel inside, different ports, hard drive, and even optical drive.

@jasonhowe1697 7 ай бұрын

there is no comparison since you don't m.2 in the mini assuming the 1 of the m.2's isn't a service annex for expanded wifi functioning theory of max is 24 TB max though not sure what max ram caps are

@mattevans7884 7 ай бұрын

Why does the Mac Mini need a redesign? If its a working, successful design, why change it?

@JpeterZoom-gt3pn 7 ай бұрын

That is an amazing value for somerhing so small!!!

@bkoleff 7 ай бұрын

Luke, for the moneys sake, forgot that "5 years ago" there were Intel NUC's.

@Ucassai 7 ай бұрын

will the MacBook Air, 5 years from now will have higher performance than the fastest Mac out now?

@TecraX2 6 ай бұрын

1:30 - I hate external Power Bricks... Especially the ones that are almost the same size as the device that they are powering!

@luke_webster 7 ай бұрын

I would have liked to see geekom make their pc bigger so it could have more performance because the size of the Mac mini is small enough for me so because of that I'm probably going to get the Mac mini

@Offie-et7zp 7 ай бұрын

When you make a comparison and single handedly encourage apple to mage som effort. great Content Luke, Thank you!

@yorkan213swd6 7 ай бұрын

Does somebody know a project to upgrade a intel based mac mini to IT13 specs ?

@becontentandsilencethemind1562 7 ай бұрын

Holy moly macaroni and cheesus! That power adapter is……huge! …that’s what she said

@dyscotopia 7 ай бұрын

I wonder if this works wirh an eGPU?

@AhmadHishamPlus 7 ай бұрын

If the i9 is not even hitting its usual 45W Power Target, wouldn't the i7 almost be identical, as they both run under very similar power consumption profile, I'm really interested to see the difference between the 3 configurations in benchmarks

@flymanhawaii 7 ай бұрын

I use both pc and Mac daily. I don’t like the loud fan noise and the bulky desktop, this micro pc seems a good choice for my next pc. Need to find out more about its thermal performance and the limitations.

@JasonTaylor-po5xc 7 ай бұрын

Because of the thermal limitation, MiniPCs are very hit or miss on noise - some do a good job - normally by throttling down the CPU. I only use MiniPCs for IT projects, not as a serious Desktop. I use Macs for work and some personal projects - but I use PCs for gaming and specialized activities.

@dothetontim 7 ай бұрын

Why on earth would they use a barrel connector for the power when you can pass plenty of power over USB C?

@emilychristoff9404 7 ай бұрын

Can the little PC run os Ventura?

@abittwisted 6 ай бұрын

Id be interested to see how well the micro PC's will run full out Linux Software

@richard6812 7 ай бұрын

Are you are you sure it wasn’t on windows power saving mode those temperatures and fan profile don’t seem right

@lindhartsen 7 ай бұрын

Impressed it kept up quite well. The noise is a sacrifice but if you need Windows and have envy of the Mini it looks nice.

@tonyburzio4107 7 ай бұрын

Looks.

@dave24-73 7 ай бұрын

Adding in the extra height and large power supply it’s far from smaller I’d say it’s bigger, looks a lot like a NUC pc to me (form factor).

@BigBrotherMotown 7 ай бұрын

I don't even NEED a pc right now, and i might buy one. That price for that amount of performance simply can't be beat! Not to mention the amount of ram and SSD space you get. Even though I hate windows I could make good use of this!

@watchcommander2012 7 ай бұрын

Mac mini was designed for a certain customer segment that wanted a scalable server solution running Mac OS. The added benefit is it makes a superb desktop for most people at a reasonable price point.

@Rotwold 7 ай бұрын

Except it is expensive to upgrade and offer no expansion so I don't see how that's scalable. It's a miniPC for apple customers, no sane person run a server on MiniPCs and expect them to be scalable.

@blaah4490 7 ай бұрын

@@Rotwold It WAS somewhat scalable back when there was a server version. The server Mac Mini had replaceable hard drive (x2) and RAM.

@petelongrs 7 ай бұрын

Excellent video and it hasn't finished yet :)

@SuperPudley 5 ай бұрын

What about bluetooth on the mini PC?

@Pocketkid2 7 ай бұрын

Wow, that's a pretty great mini PC.

@raduarmadamusic 7 ай бұрын

Yeah. If you can buy it.

@puttipongngamek-aua 7 ай бұрын

I do have mini PC and love it :)

@VitiateTheImmortal 7 ай бұрын

Yeah Mac mini for me lol i’m in the market for one. Waiting for the keynote in a few days to see if i get an M3 version or gotta go with the M2 pro

@raduarmadamusic 7 ай бұрын

So nice! Not available to purchase in Eastern Europe. So bad. This is why Mini is so expensive.

@dennisud 7 ай бұрын

I'm really surprised they didn't take the Apple TV Housing and put the Mac Mini insides in there! Wow, this is good! All you PC'ers a nice regular computer!