My Metal Volcano Tamer

My Metal Volcano Tamer - Explained

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The "One for All"* metal volcano tamer explained. *not Niobium
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This build sacrifices the efficiency of a specialized (sometimes even passively cooled) metal volcano tamer for the compactness and generality that it gains.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:06 Why this design and What for?
0:31 Side Note
0:49 Cooling
1:20 Liquids for heat transfer
2:13 Eruption
2:28 Automation
3:34 Liquid Coolant
3:48 Liquid Piping
4:48 Gas Piping and why
5:25 Cooling for the Dispenser and Autosweeper
5:35 Heat handling
5:55 Get Metal when?
6:35 Example
7:25 Next Video
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@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

The Priority for the Dispenser is 1 and the Conveyor loader is set to 2. The second highest ranking result in the last youtube poll was "Tamer for a volcano" So i present to you a metal volcano design for Oxygen Not Included: The not energy efficient but tames all the metal volcanoes -tamer! (not niobium) Every Metal volcano (not niobium ;D )! Honestly though this took a lot of work and I hope it helps you. If you want more efficient tamer you need to build them specifically for each volcano type. But for now i hope this covers a large range of use cases :) Outputs the material at 130°C if you don't extent the cooling loop to the top right tile It is very easy to expand the cooling loop to the tile the material is dropped on. Put a tiny drop of naphta on it (for heat transfer reasons) Short Version: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNZzms1eu8DOaXk.html Become a Member! :) kzfaq.info/love/RRpEHcVHEU6PK-QGwCbhDQjoin Patreon: - www.patreon.com/Lumaplays My Channel - kzfaq.info Discord - discord.gg/vjAhbrEzRZ if this doesn't work try that one - discord.com/invite/vjAhbrEzRZ

@Si_mo_na 2 жыл бұрын

Noooo Naobium :D Nice little insert :D

@LotnyLotnik Жыл бұрын

A minor improvement for those vulcanos with low dormancy period. Adding normal pipe under the pressure plate helps reduce the temperature just enough that it's faster then the dormancy period. From what I tested you can even change it to radiant pipe, but for the hotter vulcanos you will hover at 100C liquid temp.

@sam11182 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I did NOT know that about the liquid bridge (the heat equalization)! I will be using them a lot more now

@DoomBunny101 2 жыл бұрын

That trick is pointless here. He could have just placed the temp-shift plate one tile to the left. Still it's Good to know about so you don't accidentally leak heat out of an insulated box though. Overall this build is needlessly complex for a survival build, and all to save a few materials that were likely plentiful. It's also not as small as advertised unless connected into your power grid (I guess simulated by the Klei sandbox-mode generator) as no battery is included.

@bl4z3_kanazaki Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much my friend! Your building is very clear... when I was starting the game, I was very scared of the volcano xD

@Sandwich_Official Жыл бұрын

I love that design! Keep making such videos!

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

Will do. Just have so much ideas for all the different videos i can't keep up.

@julien8629 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic build, great video. I'm doing this on all my planetoids

@DB-ft4cp 2 жыл бұрын

This is so perfect!!! I always thought why all those stupid buffer and filter gates. It all comes together now

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

I am really glad I can help, sometimes :).

@its7seven314 2 жыл бұрын

Just a Word, perfection

@DB-ft4cp 2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@music_YT2023 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful mini build! I feel like every asteroid to explore in Spaced Out DLC is like a compact challenge; minimizing the materials needed in the space allotted is so difficult. The bridge tip is very helpful, will try to tackle my volcanos this week!

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with your Colony!

@MrMutalala 2 жыл бұрын

Pipe Bridge technique is very interesting

@minhthanh2910 2 жыл бұрын

This is so perfect! Please teachs me how to make this great video sir! Whats apps u use? Its seem like a science documentary.

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hey hey, I am using Davinci resolve 16 and 17 depending what doesn't crash at the moment :D.

@MrSupermanito1 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@williamcotten7714 2 жыл бұрын

I've been trying to make a volcanoe tamer were I use salt/polluted water to get the metal, dirt, salt, and fresh water, but I can't seem to get it right. Luckily it's not due to everything catching on fire, but due pressure and to cold issues surprisingly. Any ideas on how to make it work more effectively?

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

That is specific to the volcano and its heat you are working with. Maybe use mechanical doors to avoid overpressure and split the liquid metal area from the gas area so you can have different atmospheres and pressures. I don't see and issue with your Idea itself. should work fine. Dump the liquids in the volcano room. surround the room with tiles or doors. place a steam room on top which is cooled by the steam turbine. put stuff in to get stuff out. done.

@Merilix2 Жыл бұрын

Nice compact build. Just to mention, your demo is absolutely able to power itself so there is no need for those dev-generators ;) I just wonder how to determine when/how the cooled metal can be picked from the top right spot?

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

The dev generators are for stable testing. even in a normal game i would have the metal volcano tamer on the main grid just in case the dormancy is too long and the system ran out of inherrent power. You can pick up the material pretty quickly after it dropped in the top right corner if you already have a bit of material accumulaterd there. If you remove the material each time it needs longer too cool down. (The game has different debris temperature calculations- either it tries to average or it tries to use the temp that the debris already has deleting even more heat in the process - or creating heat if the debris is very hot) So you have to decide on a pick up time depending on your cooling situation, the amount of debris and the material used or volcano material. Hence i can't give you any specific time frame. Hope that helped :)

@johns6014 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice build, particularly good for external planetoids where you just want to tame the volcanos, but don't need the power because solar will be enough. I will note that your "Leave a Like" arrow is pointing at the newly formatted Dislike button.

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and also, thanks for pointing that out. I was worried that might happen. Also in every language that button has a different size depending on the word used. KZfaq why! xD

@MrZAPPER1000 2 жыл бұрын

hi i built this design for an iron volcano and my steel sweeper overheated. i used conveyor bridges + rails and filled the empty background tile spaces with igneous drywall to spread the heat a little more im assuming that's going to fix it. i built everything out of steel if not specified just because. it's 9.7k/s at 2526.9/s 43s every 772s. i really like this setup! figured id give the feedback and say thanks

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Rob! Thanks for the information. Just to be sure try it without the changes and see if it still overheats. If you want to you can share a picture in the discord. As to how the changes might affect the system: I did not test it with background tiles. So i am not sure how that could affect the build. Drywall has a very high mass of 400kg per tile that is 4 times the mass of a regular tile and can save up way more heat then otherwise possible. and if you used that everywhere you are transfering heat where it should not be transfered too. But i can also be totally wrong and it is something else :) As for testing there is a save file in the description so if you want to check it out you can find that there. The materials are listed in the short video that belongs to this explainer video, as far as i remember; or you check the save file. I Hope one of these suggestions help.

@MrZAPPER1000 2 жыл бұрын

the idea with the igneous drywall is that it will store up heat and regulate the temperature better. the steam turbine will have to delete the heat stored in the drywall during the volcano's dormancy which means less heat needs to be dealt with during the active phase. that does mean that all the items are going to stay in the tamer in large batches though

@pauljohnson3132 Жыл бұрын

Good videos. I cant get this to work. Are you using nobium etc? I am trying to get it to work on a volcano. Could you attach a save file?

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

Oh this is for metal volcanoes not for regular volcanoes. The Material should be in the video. Only normal stuff and steel. But normal magma volcanoes have a much higher output in regards to material. That is why dthey probably do not work. You can use this for regular volcanoes: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtGYYNV6q8nbpoE.html&ab_channel=Lumaplays kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9N8rayDvZbRe4E.html

@blacklight683 Жыл бұрын

comp freakin pact

@azir64 2 жыл бұрын

Luma, Do you have any videos or tips to get a Volcano tamer? My hatches are growing hungry :( Thanks in advance!

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sven M. here are 2 of my Versions. But to be honest they are to 100% use the material in the magma. YOu can build way easier ones. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtGYYNV6q8nbpoE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9N8rayDvZbRe4E.html

@azir64 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays Thanks Luma!

@rafaelalstent4974 2 жыл бұрын

Very naice 👌

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@EIndriksons 2 жыл бұрын

How do you get the fluids where you need them with this? I'm a noob so builds like these have always seemed overwhelming.

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Edgars, check this out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNZzms1eu8DOaXk.html . Also, in the DLC you can use the liquid meter which helps tremendously but needs a little bit of plastic.

@EIndriksons 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays This was very informative - thank you very much!

@Bizob2010 Жыл бұрын

Do you have a video where you discuss that double liquid bridge thing in further detail?

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

Double liquid bridges are basically just 2 tile liquid buffers; that helps to not overfill the loop. I don't have a dedicated video for that but used it in a few.

@Bizob2010 Жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays Ah. Do you keep them just for the loop fill-up? Or do they stay permanently?

@WalkerRileyMC 9 ай бұрын

Just the aquatuner can't stay on long enough to cool the coolant loop with just a single +800w turbine. had to hook it up to an additional power source which kinda defeats the purpose of the compact design. Otherwise great build.

@Luma_plays 9 ай бұрын

This is not self powered. you would need external power to use it. To make it self powered you probably could just add a second turbine. The smallness was intended for the mini base map.

@audrianmarak1574 2 жыл бұрын

Nice compact design, but we need the metals faster, EXPANSION!

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hehe sure. Just use more steam turbines :)

@kuly4466 Жыл бұрын

Please do a video about taming a ordinary volcano please, your previous one about it was 2 complicated for a newbie like me :((

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

Hey Kuly, do you mean a regular magma volcano? Then it depends if you want the energy from the heat or the material from the magma. Depending on that the setup varies. As for metal volcanoes mostly you can just put a few steam turbines on top and add water. But i will think about getting back to shorts :D Thanks for the comment.

@robotnikkkk001 Жыл бұрын

.......I JUST MADE 5 TURBINES AT ALUMINIUM VOLCANO ANDDD PUT LOTS OF ADDITIONAL STUFF IN STEAM CHAMBER THAT WOULD OVERHEAT OTHERWISE.....LIKE VERY SATISFIED ABOUT WORKING METAL REFINERY,AT LAST,AND KILNS..... =YUP,PRETTY MUCH NON PROFESSIONAL BUT AT LEAST IT'S WORKING AND NOT BEEN BROKEN

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

Yep I made the joke myself somewhere :D basically just slap a bunch of turbines on top. But for minimap player this is the smallest I could make work (reliably)

@longnguyen203 2 жыл бұрын

How the upper auto-sweeper not deliver metal to that automatic dispenser? Priority?

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly. And it only activates for a short time when the conditions are met. :)

@destwong 12 күн бұрын

Will only do this build if space is at its premium.

@Luma_plays 12 күн бұрын

That is the intended niche for this setup. You could of course also just make it larger to the left and add another steam turbine for example

@OFalcãobranco 2 жыл бұрын

There is a version using less steel and able to construct without the DLC?

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Hmm. Here is my answer :): There is no part in there that requires the DLC. I don't think there are any -construction relevant - parts in the game that are DLC only. In this build it is not possible to reduce the amount of steel (noticable). You can easily build a version not using steel and not using an aquatuner. But you will need to make it big and self cooled (use the output water from the steam turbine to cool the Steamturbine itself). If you want your build to be usable for all the volcanoes (no niobium) then you need 4 steamturbines. Hope that helps.

@DrScandalous 5 ай бұрын

So I know this isn't the point of the video... but if you're only concerned about gathering the materials from the volcano (let's say an iron volcano)... as a complete noob, could I literally just build a steam chamber + steam turbine like you show at :14 and (assuming I build a conveyer/setup to retrieve the contents after sealing it up)... that'd work?

@Luma_plays 5 ай бұрын

Yeah probably. There are more factors to be aware of like having enough steam in there to not create heat spikes. You want an even stable temperature. If the temperature gets to hot it hasn't been enough steam turbines. If your steam EVER gets over 135!°C it would be a good idea to actively cool all your turbines. If steam stays under that passive cooling is enough. So in praxis you will probably need 2 or 3 turbines an aquatuner a cooling loop and either an entrance to the steam chamber via double liquid locks or a conveyor loader setup

@tyraelpl 2 жыл бұрын

You should rly eliminate the AT thrashing on and off. I like how small it is but i dont like how hot the material leaves the system cos its free for dupes to pick up when hot or if u wanna just lead the rail farther from it. So all in all it kinda needs more space if one would rly want to cool down the output to approx room temperature. Its nice cos how small it is and cos u use naphtha (all hail the best liq in the game haha) but i still think you sacrificed too much usefulness and function just save very little space. So ye, material on exit rail imho should be at safe to use temperature. Ill be sticking to my version of tony's idea but it is nice to have options for people i guess. Oh and you have heat injection into the ins tile wall with automation bridge and you could also spill a layer of nuc waste on the 3 ins tiles beneath AT to prevent heat leak. Cos as u know gasses better conduct heat to tiles than any other phases so those will get relatively hot soon and will start bleeding heat.

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hi tyrael in a normal game i would consider running the conveyor rails through the Naphta on top of the steam turbine. And closing the drop of point with doors and automation. But in this version I went with what you see :). And the heat bleading into the walls was accepted. Because I would build the whole thing in a vacuum. But as always I appreciate your feedback alot :). Thanks man!

@tyraelpl 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays thank you for all the vids mate and gz on 3k subs! I might seem like an ahole in this day and age but constructive criticism i think is a the only drive for improvement or evolution. So it's all in good faith. I dont use time to comment on people i dont care or im less... Outspoken 😉

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

@@tyraelpl Appreciated! And I just forgot about the aquatuner automation addition. Weird that it is needed. Maybe that behaviour can be used to our liking. Maybe an exploit of some sort.

@TheHiruma29 2 жыл бұрын

How did you make the room vaccum? I don't see any debris from gas pump

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Make the vacuum way bigger than the space you need to build the contraption. then you have no debis inside. i normally make the vacumm 2 or 4 tiles more than i need so i can add an liquid lock and ladders around the actual build.

@TheHiruma29 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh, i see I still using primitive tech i.e. pumping the air out the room, great vids, don't stop the ONI, or the duped won't breathe, because it's not included. *Badum tss

@Dankz_Live 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Luma, what is your way of making Naptha?

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hi DeeBoss55 check out the first few minutes of my Magma Let's Play episode of the first let's play. episode 6 or 7 I think. you can also use petroleum or crude oil but they flow more and are more annoying to deal with

@Dankz_Live 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays Hi Luna, i made this last night and my auto sweeper keeps picking up the copper from the weight plate and putting into the dispenser. Looping. Where did i mess up?

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dankz_Live I will check it when i am at home amd message you then :)

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hey @@Dankz_Live down below you can see the Settings. Your issue could stem from the filters having a wrong timing. From the Temperature sensor being set to above insted of below. From mixing up filters and buffer or AND and OR Gates. Or from not connecting the autosweeper. Or from setting the Priorities incorrect. Priority for the dispenser needs to be lower (1) than for the Conveyor loader (2). You also need to allow the respective material for the conveyor loader. Weight Plate set to above 10kg connected to a filter. Filter set to 30 seconds. Filter connected to a Buffer. Buffer set to 10 seconds. Buffer connected to the AND-Gate. Temperature Sensor set to below 140 or 130°C. Temperature Sensor connected to a Filter. Filter set to 20 seconds. Filter connected to the second input of the AND-Gate. AND-Gate output connected to the Autosweeper.

@Dankz_Live 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays Thank you so much. It was my priorities. Its working perfect now! Awesome! You're the best!

@HuorNolatari 3 ай бұрын

now apply this in survival mode

@techrama9642 2 жыл бұрын

0:29 i think it can be more funny. No Niobium 😂

@suckgamer2901 2 жыл бұрын

I dont know why I cant pour 200kg of oil to steam turbin.it keeps pour down.isn't it too much ?

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Crude Oil has a different viscosity. You cannot drop it in the same space with the same amount it spreads way further. that is why i used Naphtha. If you want to use crude oil make sure to mop up the rightmost tile of the steam turbine and then after that fill the pool to the right of the steam turbine. Every liquid forms tiles of a certain mass. if you add more liquid that liquid will spread to another tile. Naphta and visco gel can have much liquid / mass per tile (30-100kg). Water for example only 30 g or so. Hope that helped :)

@suckgamer2901 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays I got it bro,thanks!

@mstfclk967 2 жыл бұрын

How can I produce Naptha and nuclear waste?

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mustafa, naphta can be produced by melting plastic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9N8rayDvZbRe4E.html. And nuclear waste is a waste product of nuclear energy. Or you can shoot an radbolt at an airflow tile to create miniscule amounts of it. Hope that helped.

@traninhphong7397 2 жыл бұрын

Can you replace aluminum with anything else ??

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

You can try gold or steel and see if that works. But I can't promise it will work with that. I did lot's of testing and can't remember every detail what definitely was necessary and what was interchangable.

@traninhphong7397 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays ok thank

@suckgamer2901 2 жыл бұрын

Whenever I built the gas bridge.it says without the output

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Suck Gamer your comments get blocked from youtube because you forgot some spaces behind the "point" so your comments look like they have a link in it: for example: "bridge.it" To answer the implied question. Check the video again: I placed a gas pipe there before, so the red symbol will not appear. You can also just make both end points of the bridge a gas pipe.

@suckgamer2901 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays sorry bro.thanks

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

@@suckgamer2901 XD

@suckgamer2901 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays :v oops!

@nico-ob6wj 2 жыл бұрын

Naobium not included ;)

@MinhTran-fm8wn 2 жыл бұрын

Cool but maybe make a room to cool stuff down might be better

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

But then it wouldn't be small. I could run an conveyor rail through the liquid from the Steam turbine. But that would cost more metal for the rail.

@MinhTran-fm8wn 2 жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays but you will need it anyway for the rocket tranfer

@overdramaticpan Жыл бұрын

what happens if i build it with niobium

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

You can build it with niobium (the element). Not sure how good the heat transfer is then. But not build it on a niobium volcano. For that i have another setup.

@overdramaticpan Жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays yeah the niobium volcano is what i meant

@Luma_plays Жыл бұрын

@@overdramaticpan Check out my sexond channel LumaRaw. I just uploaded one there a few days ago.

@overdramaticpan Жыл бұрын

@@Luma_plays i didn't need one i just thought it would be funny. thank you though

@Subjagator 2 жыл бұрын

No Niobium :)

@engineeringandgames6107 2 жыл бұрын

good, but in my opinion way too complicated :-)

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed :D. I develop these for smallest footprint so it can be used in confined spaces. With more room you can make it easier.

@LWT1331 10 ай бұрын

I'd rather have efficiency than compact designs. I don't get what everyone's obsession is with making it as small as possible. There's plenty of space.

@Luma_plays 10 ай бұрын

That is totally fine :) I personally like it compact and a few mini base player like that as well. If i make it efficient i build it bigger but still as big as necessary and as small as possible.

@carlosalonso2186 2 жыл бұрын

not efficient

@Luma_plays 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Carlos just some constructive criticism on the constructive criticism :D : This is literally one of the first things i say in the video, so it has already been stated. This build makes compromises on the efficiency for the sake of compactness and generality. But if you have ideas for improvements regarding efficiency while staying in these parameters i am glad to integrate them :) Also: Still thanks because i actually forgot to put that information in the description.