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Redeemed Zoomer

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7 ай бұрын

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@bigD9051
@bigD9051 6 ай бұрын
Worst thing is when you tell someone you are Lutheran and they think of ELCA
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 6 ай бұрын
I always say WELS just to prevent that line of thought.
@isaacpfeiffer4347
@isaacpfeiffer4347 6 ай бұрын
That's what I hate about Catholics, because they don't have the concept of denominations, so they think we are all the same.
@fighterofthenightman1057
@fighterofthenightman1057 6 ай бұрын
The rabid toxicity any other Lutherans have toward us in the ELCA is frankly deranged. Notice we spend next to no time hating on you.
@leullakew9579
@leullakew9579 6 ай бұрын
Until 5 years ago, I used to think all Lutherans were theologically liberal because all the major Lutheran churches in my area are ELCA and fly pride flags. I mostly realized that not all Lutherans are like this after finding out that my aunt is an EECMY Lutheran (has ties with LCMS, NALC, LCMC but is Pietistic Lutheran like CLB), and then later on seeing educational videos on theological conservatives in these traditions.
@mj6493
@mj6493 6 ай бұрын
@@leullakew9579EECMY is the largest Lutheran Church in the world.
@tikao5467
@tikao5467 7 ай бұрын
As an Estonian Lutheran, I feel proud of our brothers Latvians, God bless you all Latvian Brothers
@tikao5467
@tikao5467 7 ай бұрын
Tho from my experience, EELK (Estonian Evangelical Lutheran Church) is also really traditional, but the thing is that our country is very atheist
@matiasgamalieltolmosuarez790
@matiasgamalieltolmosuarez790 7 ай бұрын
​@@tikao5467 I really love Estonian Lutheran architecture, the white with black roofs it's gorgeous
@endygonewild2899
@endygonewild2899 7 ай бұрын
I’m surprised there’s still any of you guys left
@tikao5467
@tikao5467 7 ай бұрын
@@endygonewild2899 Same, the younger generations just don't care about God, and honestly this is really sad to see
@tikao5467
@tikao5467 7 ай бұрын
@@matiasgamalieltolmosuarez790 Yeah, the trad architecture is great here and from the inside the churches look Even more aesthethic
@Lyktstolpe0898
@Lyktstolpe0898 7 ай бұрын
I’m a christian from Sweden and the church of Sweden (Svenska Kyrkan) is very liberal. Some priests just say that it’s okay to not believe in God. Also the church is political and the citizens vote over what the church should teach and preach
@fabulouschild2005
@fabulouschild2005 7 ай бұрын
Ngl that is unacceptable, like allowing members to deny God is insane
@comeintotheforest
@comeintotheforest 7 ай бұрын
Yes but there’s also many great subgroups within Svenska Kyrkan such as EFS which actually care deeply about God. You need to remember that Sweden is the most secular/individualist country in the world, and so given that reality it’s important to care for the institutional church there. Without it there will be no transformation.
@TheBlueMarbleItself
@TheBlueMarbleItself 7 ай бұрын
@@fabulouschild2005 I can't wait for Redeemed Zoomer to make a tier list on the Congregationalist denominations (If it is Possible, due to each church being autonomous), as the United Church of Christ is basically the same (I'm not Congregationalist, but I know what goes on in there), with a good deal of athiest pastors, like the United Church of Canada is.
@fabulouschild2005
@fabulouschild2005 7 ай бұрын
@@TheBlueMarbleItself over here in the UK, there are very little in the way of atheist priests/pastors. Even the lgbt affirming priests are very affirming of Christ's Resurrection, God's existence and all that other good stuff. At least in my experience
@Lyktstolpe0898
@Lyktstolpe0898 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@fabulouschild2005 Yeah. I was in a church down in Malmö, Sweden last year and they began by saying that lgbtq+ people and those who deny God are quote ”Welcome”
@malktheyellowdino5456
@malktheyellowdino5456 7 ай бұрын
I’m an LCMS Lutheran and I really enjoy that you mentioned us I have had to explain what a Lutheran is to so many of my friends and even who martyn Luther is. Thank you for these videos
@leullakew9579
@leullakew9579 6 ай бұрын
Until 5 years ago, I used to think all Lutherans and Methodists were theologically liberal because all the Lutheran churches in my area fly pride flags. I mostly realized that not all Lutherans are like this after finding out that my aunt is a Lutheran, and then later on seeing educational videos on theological conservatives in these traditions.
@berlin4127
@berlin4127 5 ай бұрын
His name is Martin Luther my friend
@Audjem1
@Audjem1 2 ай бұрын
@@berlin4127 let him be I and y are very close together on the key board and even if it was intentional it still makes sense
@skrukken
@skrukken 7 ай бұрын
I hail from Norway, and the Church of Norway (Den Norske Kirke) has sadly turned extremely liberal. Not just with gay marriages, but priests with no personal faith who are doing it just as a 9-5 job. As @Lyktestople0898 mentioned with the Church of Sweden, the Church of Norway is also politically lead. Normal citizens can vote who gets to sit at the top and legislate. This is dangerous, as we now have the situation where extremely liberal, and some not even Christian, people are deciding how to run a church and denomination. Reconquista needed in Scandinavia brothers and sisters. Pray for us.
@tobiashinrichs6717
@tobiashinrichs6717 7 ай бұрын
Want to join the european branch of the reconquista? We‘re in the process of organizing but only have a handful of norwegians so far
@skrukken
@skrukken 7 ай бұрын
@@tobiashinrichs6717 Sign me up!
@greg28
@greg28 7 ай бұрын
Hvilken Kirke går du i? Jeg er katolikk og jeg er nysgjerrig på om den evangelisk lutherske fri kirke er like liberal som stats kirken. Veldig trist med det som har skjedd de siste årene i statskirken og sekularismen i Norge😢
@skrukken
@skrukken 7 ай бұрын
@@greg28 Helt enig! Det er virkelig på tide at noe skjer. Jeg tilhører Misjonskirken, som i seg selv er frikirkelig - og representerer sannsynligvis den mer konservative delen av Misjonskirken. Jeg vet dessverre lite om den evangelisk lutherske kirke, så jeg kan ikke uttale meg noe særlig om dem. Finnes ikke en kirke i hjembyen min heller, så jeg har ikke fått mulighet til å besøke.
@nils7286
@nils7286 7 ай бұрын
would it be politically/constitutionally possible to seperate the church from state?
@LuvvLiii
@LuvvLiii 7 ай бұрын
As a young Swedish christian girl who was saved a year ago and raised in an atheist family its so so hard to practise my faith here in Sweden. All churches available to me are very secular and its very hard to find christian friends OUTSIDE of my cathcolic school (im protestant tho). I rlly dont know what to do because church is so important to me but I feel like my faith cant grown in church as it can for others BECAUSE of how liberal and non-bible following the churches are :( Edit: Tack för alla fina svar + rekommendationer! ❤️ Thank you for all your answers/recommendations!❤️
@unit2394
@unit2394 7 ай бұрын
Are there any smaller conservative Lutheran or other Protestant groups in your country? If you can’t find a conservative Lutheran church maybe look for a more conservative Anglican or Reformed church if there are any at all. I hope and pray you can find a good church. God bless you my sister in Christ.
@user-se8yv4lc3v
@user-se8yv4lc3v 7 ай бұрын
Become catholic or orthodox. The church has more authority than the Bible
@no8592
@no8592 7 ай бұрын
Have you heard about Laestadians?
@LuvvLiii
@LuvvLiii 7 ай бұрын
@@unit2394 Im currently looking into smaller conservative churches and I'm lucky I live in a slightly bigger towns because there ARE more options here, although there aren't a lot near me. Thank you so much though, God bless
@lutherserbe6435
@lutherserbe6435 7 ай бұрын
Is there any Missionsprovinsen church close to you?
@memyselfishness
@memyselfishness 7 ай бұрын
As a born and raised LCMS Lutheran, I can confidently say that I have never met a Nazi or even Nazi-adjacent LCMS menber in person. I think your experience is just that LCMS is bigger than WELS so there's more people living on the extremes.
@kaysandee
@kaysandee 7 ай бұрын
Have you done a video on the Church of Christ?
@cardsfan0776
@cardsfan0776 6 ай бұрын
100% agree I am currently an LCMS Lutheran and have only ever met extremely kind and welcoming people even if communion is not allowed unless your lcms
@wabajack9929
@wabajack9929 6 ай бұрын
There were a couple who were church disciplined out of LCMS sort of recently. And really they were just racist anti semites, not literal swastika repping nazis. .
@JB-gj8pu
@JB-gj8pu 6 ай бұрын
My guess is that they're terminally online nominal (in name only) Christians.
@sophiaeq
@sophiaeq 6 ай бұрын
I agree, and I think that it's a little weird that Zoomer thinks that people with German decent are more likely to be Nazis. Most of them left Germany for a reason, and the LCMS was founded before the Nazi party came into existence.
@RaphaCramer
@RaphaCramer 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video, I'm from the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Brazil, founded by LCMS missionaries in 1900. It's, I think, the biggest denomination in full fellowship with LCMS (pulpit and altar) outside USA. Great church too
@RookEditz
@RookEditz 7 ай бұрын
The Latvian Lutheran church is also in full communion with the LCMS! :) God bless our Brazilan brothers and sisters in Christ!
@augustokonrad3572
@augustokonrad3572 7 ай бұрын
Nossa, um outro irmão da IELB. Hahaha, que loucura
@RaphaCramer
@RaphaCramer 6 ай бұрын
@@augustokonrad3572 tamo junto meu nobre hahaha
@Chris-wf6km
@Chris-wf6km 2 ай бұрын
“My doctrine is not to be judged by any man, nor even by the angels; because I am certain of it, I will judge you and the angels likewise, as St. Paul says (Gal. i. 8), and whosoever does not accept my teaching will not arrive at blessedness. For it is God’s and not mine, therefore my judgment is God’s and not mine.”(Martin Luther, 1522) And there is the sick, twisted, cruel and inhumane ideas from Luther in his “On the Jews and Their Lies” - The Nazi’s were so impressed with Luther’s book they distributed it for free in Germany before WWII.
@ryanmunro4438
@ryanmunro4438 7 ай бұрын
As an LCMS member, while I disagree with your complaints about the LCMS, I totally agree with this tier list! May God continue to bless the Lutheran Church in Latvia and across the world!
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 6 ай бұрын
Catholic church is best!😇 Popes come and go but the faithful and teaching tradition stays despite everything. Catholicism has unity in diversity which makes it last forever until the last day of the world❤
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 6 ай бұрын
@@fredandjohnproduction3976 Not the people I know!! I don't know who you are looking at but in my area it is much better than protestants so your take surprises me
@RookEditz
@RookEditz 7 ай бұрын
As a Latvian Lutheran, I approve of this video :) God bless our Lutheran brothers and sisters in Christ and any Christian in general
@wordawakeningny
@wordawakeningny 6 ай бұрын
Sola Gratia! And I used to love the Latvian hockey league.
@RookEditz
@RookEditz 6 ай бұрын
@@joeloliver9544 Thank you brother
@codykrueger796
@codykrueger796 7 ай бұрын
I didnt grow up LCMS but I am now, I found their theology so sound, that when I was a different denomination, i came to believe like them and thought I was alone. My now wife showed me how similar we were and now am so glad to hear the gospel every week.
@TheV3Ct0RMAN
@TheV3Ct0RMAN 7 ай бұрын
I just got home from my second week attending a WELS church in my area thanks to this channel. Great video!
@ianamante7547
@ianamante7547 20 күн бұрын
Future priest in the church of Sweden here. I will begin my theology studies this autumn. I recognise a conservitive wind in my church and in the more conservative dioceses and congregations conservatism is growing. The problem with the church is that it is politically controlled and politicians are not required to have a faith, the only requirement really is that you are baptised in the church of Sweden. Right now and really since the church and the state separated in the year 2000, the left have dominated church elections which have made the church more secular. I hope to make some sort of reconquista movement when I start at the university!
@pkkshair
@pkkshair 6 ай бұрын
I am soon to be baptized as a Latvian lutheran, made me very happy to see Latvia on the list, God bless!
@ScroopGroop
@ScroopGroop 6 ай бұрын
I was so butt hurt when you put my beloved LCMS in a tier, but when I saw that the church of Latvia was in S tier, you brought it back around. Well done!
@falsouth762
@falsouth762 7 ай бұрын
NALC Lutheran here. Your assessment of the denomination is correct. My home congregation is a bit more conservative than what is typical in the NALC. We split from one of the largest ELCA congregations in the state in 2010. We’ve grown considerably since then and are thriving thanks to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
@TheOrgan1st
@TheOrgan1st 7 ай бұрын
I’m a WELS member. What is meant by no outside fellowship is we won’t pray alongside others in worship services. However, I cannot stress enough that only the really really strict ones practice this. Otherwise we will pray with others, it’s more a theological question than not. This is also why we have closed communion, it is a declaration of faith, particularly Lutheran in this case, so we don’t go with others for we don’t believe the same things.
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 6 ай бұрын
WELS member also. Where praying with others is most likely to come up is some sort of civic event where a speaker wants to lead a prayer, or a coach, or whoever. No, I don't join them in prayer.
@Chemnitz11
@Chemnitz11 6 ай бұрын
It's about fellowship and not about exclusivity.
@sophiaeq
@sophiaeq 7 ай бұрын
I'm an LCMS lutheran, and my grandparents are WELS. I have been to the WELS church before, and besides not letting others have communion, they are pretty welcoming. And yes, my grandparents still pray with the rest of my family.
@nathanbarth6393
@nathanbarth6393 6 ай бұрын
What is wels?
@benzellmer1239
@benzellmer1239 6 ай бұрын
I've had the exact same experience
@christsavesreadromans1096
@christsavesreadromans1096 6 ай бұрын
Be Catholic if you want to be saved, why partake in a church with no apostolic succession, that didn’t exist for 1500 years of Christian history?
@nathanbarth6393
@nathanbarth6393 6 ай бұрын
@@christsavesreadromans1096 because the Catholic church changed some early church teaching
@nathanbarth6393
@nathanbarth6393 6 ай бұрын
@@christsavesreadromans1096 we follow Jesus not the apostle. There successor are not needed.
@huskyspin1007
@huskyspin1007 7 ай бұрын
Here in Finland i fear that swedish theological liberalism will take over the finnish church. Pray for Finland and the nordics!
@harrisonwykoff1813
@harrisonwykoff1813 7 ай бұрын
Very good video. Have really liked your tier list stuff.
@leo-ls3lp
@leo-ls3lp 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget about the ELS. We're in fellowship with the WELS, just smaller and historically Norwegian. And we are pretty exclusive, but to clarify: we can still pray with others, and even do community work, but not in an official capacity. Like if we were to hold a food drive, we'd do it with the sister WELS/ELS church in the town over, not the pentecostal church down the street. Anyways, awesome video 👌
@FedoraMan316
@FedoraMan316 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for helping to promote Lutheranism! God bless you, my Presbyterian brother in Christ.
@kalamar_from_slovakia
@kalamar_from_slovakia 7 ай бұрын
Never expected my country to be in one of your videos lol
@nathanstreufert2462
@nathanstreufert2462 6 ай бұрын
Awesome to see you included a picture of the interior of Richland Lutheran Church (LCMC in Richland, WA), the church I grew up in and was confirmed in! I’m currently attending an LCMS church and appreciate their historic liturgy and adherence to the Lutheran confessions.
@DouglasGross6022
@DouglasGross6022 7 ай бұрын
Please pray for my girlfriend and me. God has started helping us but we need more help! 🙏🏻✝️
@soldierofchrist1096
@soldierofchrist1096 6 ай бұрын
I’ll pray a Rosary for you and your girlfriend
@kuulakanava409
@kuulakanava409 7 ай бұрын
From Finland: The Church of Finland I would put in maybe C or D tier. It has women priests, and a ton of unbelieving / very arrogantly blasphemous pastors. But gay marriage is not _yet_ allowed (when it is it will be D or F tier for sure), and there are many conservative revivalist movements within it, which means that where ever you live, there is a good chance that you can find a conservative Lutheran community. But I am in a small conservative Lutheran church that split 25 years ago do to female pastors. Of course that goes against your reconquista ethos, but at the same time, I get to be in a lively close-knit community, which I have no shame inviting people into, and where I can raise my future children without fearing what will be said from the pulpit.
@kuulakanava409
@kuulakanava409 6 ай бұрын
I have. And I admire their community and conservatism and I love their hymns. But a big part of their faith is an exclusive understanding of the church (nobody else is saved except laestadians) which I cannot bring myself to believe. And I don't want to larp something that I don't believe.
@kuulakanava409
@kuulakanava409 6 ай бұрын
@@joeloliver9544 Glad to help!
@josephparks4270
@josephparks4270 6 ай бұрын
Regarding Lutherans, this is very insightful. I grew up in the SBC. Between high school and college and for many decades afterward I was a moderately good Calvinist. A few years ago I became a confessional Lutheran (LCMS). I told my pastor that the LCMS has the best message of any denomination that I know; it also does the worst job of proclaiming it of any denomination that I know. He was not pleased. The Based Lutheran video you included in your "Why be..." collection was exactly right: it's about affirming what God says, and about turning back to that truth.
@CheekyHaggis
@CheekyHaggis 6 ай бұрын
The Church of Sweden is so rich in history and has sooo many beautiful churches, that Swedish believers should feel obligated to fight the corruption! 🇸🇪✝️
@lutherserbe6435
@lutherserbe6435 6 ай бұрын
Biblical teaching is way more important than pretty churches. Otherwise we might go to Rome or the East after all. I am glad Sweden has the Missionsprovinsen and they even have their own seminary now.
@CheekyHaggis
@CheekyHaggis 6 ай бұрын
@@lutherserbe6435 Imagine if the apostles and church fathers had that attitude. Paul preached and worshipped for months in Synagouges. If churches can be saved from literal demon worship - they can also definitely be saved from unbelief. Otherwise, we might as well splinter into a thousand little McDonald's churches like the nondenoms. I'm open to supporting Missionsprovinsen, but not planning on leaving anytime soon.
@lutherserbe6435
@lutherserbe6435 6 ай бұрын
@@CheekyHaggis They actually had that attitude. In the bible you can see how one should avoid false teachers and have no part in them (Eph.5:11, Rom.16:17-18, 1.Thes.5:21, 2.John1:10) who says that the synagogues were opposed to the Word of God? The ones Paul preached at accepted him and the gospel and he taught them. Adding to that, if you do that openly in the mainline churches you will get kicked out anyway. Especially as a Pastor. Thats why nearly noone is doing it and even the remnant of the conservatives are hiding. Thats how the Missionsprovinsen got founded. They actually had the guts to speak out and they got excommunicated for it. Also the early church followed this principle. When the church was largely taken over by Arians, the faithful Christians and Bishops DIDN'T have communion with them. And even before the Pastors were required to give a certificate that they were doctrinally sound and faithful Christians to commune somewhere else (See Werner Elerts article on early church fellowship). You now literially have communion with people who deny the resurrection and are trans. The early house churches were not gothic cathedrals either. We are not Romans or Easterners who are (often) blind because of aesthethics. Also how do you wanna raise your kids in such an envoirment? How should they find good partners? If you hear shi*t every week your faith is in serious danger.
@cyperuzz7247
@cyperuzz7247 7 ай бұрын
As a Lutheran from the german EDK I am sad to see the failure of our church to stay conservative. I am thinking about changing my denomination because of it :(
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 7 ай бұрын
NOOOO you gotta stay and fight. Reconquista forever
@redshoes23plays38
@redshoes23plays38 7 ай бұрын
Mach die evangelische Kirche des Deutschlands toll! (I assume you speak German.)
@dirtdiego3514
@dirtdiego3514 7 ай бұрын
Falls es eine SELK Kirche in deiner nähe gibt guck doch mal dort vorbei. Wir sind auch nicht ohne unsere Probleme (den Katholiken gehts aber ähnlich in diesem Land, sogar schlimmer wenn ich das so behaupten darf) aber haben keine Frauenordination z.B. und sind eine Bekenntniskirche im Gegensatz zu EKD.
@cyperuzz7247
@cyperuzz7247 7 ай бұрын
@@redshoes23plays38 Ich werde es versuchen
@tobiashinrichs6717
@tobiashinrichs6717 7 ай бұрын
@@cyperuzz7247would you like to join our european reconquista? We have about 40 Germans in our movement, including some pastors
@walterwhite8164
@walterwhite8164 7 ай бұрын
Much love and prayers from Slovakia
@samueltrusik3251
@samueltrusik3251 7 ай бұрын
As someone from Slovakia, I can tell you that, while not very numerous, Lutherans, who mostly just refer to themselves as evangelicals, are very spread out, many small towns have their churches. In general, all of the protestant christian groups here work together. I was raised a baptist, learned from an evanjelical teacher, and the local baptist group my family visits holds service in a seventh-day adventist church building we have been borrowing for years. I have stopped going lately, as I have some issues with certain decisions within, but I still love it. If you ever want to talk with me about local Slovak affairs or theological differences and opinions, I would be happy to have a chat.
@joeloliver9544
@joeloliver9544 6 ай бұрын
That is very interesting. How is traditional Christianity doing in Slovakia? Are there any regional divides on this issue, or is it much the same nationwide? Thanks for taking the time to read, God help us all
@samueltrusik3251
@samueltrusik3251 6 ай бұрын
@@joeloliver9544 For the most part, the country is Catholic. There is a notable Evangelical presence in the very Northwest, and some Eastern Orthodoxy in the Nort-east.
@danielslingerland7831
@danielslingerland7831 4 ай бұрын
I am a student from the Netherlands and belong to the Dutch reformed church. I will be studying in Nitra next year. Do you know some good international churches in Slovakia? Do you know evangelical churches around Nitra?
@samueltrusik3251
@samueltrusik3251 4 ай бұрын
@@danielslingerland7831Unfortunately no, I am certain there are some evangelical churches around NItra, I do not know of any international ones.
@experiencethebestdogsirl8789
@experiencethebestdogsirl8789 7 ай бұрын
Hey Redeemed zoomer, great video. I was looking at your map of the Lutheran churches, and I strongly recommend you add Mount Olive Lutheran Church to the map. It's a great LCMS church in Loveland/ Campion Colorado( different websites list it differently for some reason), and there aren't a ton of options listed there.
@thomasc9036
@thomasc9036 7 ай бұрын
After learning the Church History, especially in America, you begin to realize why the Inquisition came about. Too many pastors when they lack the understanding want to form their own denominations or uproot them.
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 6 ай бұрын
Proud to be catholic ( converted to it 2023, I am 24 yo 🇩🇪). Despite not being perfect as any institution catholicism is the most observant and also reasonable christian community here
@comicsans1689
@comicsans1689 6 ай бұрын
@@karlheven8328 History greatly supports the Catholic Church being the one true Church. Despite the insurmountable odds against it through several crises in history, Holy Mother Church always overcomes it and grows stronger each time because Christ promised to be with the Church. Unfortunately we're facing the greatest crisis in Church history at the moment, but the Church will survive and recover very easily. One day, the modernists shenanigans and Protestant infiltration of the Church will be another footnote in history, in the same regard as the Great Western Schism and the Arian Crisis.
@brianwhite2104
@brianwhite2104 4 ай бұрын
Are you defending the inquisition? That was religious persecution at its worst.
@aidanmohart3727
@aidanmohart3727 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see a methodist version of this. I know you touched on them in the historically black churches but personally as methodist who is in interested in theology I would be very interested in see that video.👍
@shanekahrs4776
@shanekahrs4776 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate you calling out lcms members who are less than polite and pointing out that they don't represent the church as a whole. My experience has been very positive when learning about, conversing with and ultimately joining them. And it has with the reformed branch too. My spiritual elder and best bud who first pointed me towards Christ is a Presbyterian and hes excited that my family and i are becoming lcms because he loves talking theology and knows lcms in our area are theologically nerdy and firm in their position but also talkative. Im sorry some bad apples ruined the bunch in others experience. Guess i dont speak for all in my denom but our church families get along great in our area and there is much love between us
@CoolrbxEdits
@CoolrbxEdits 7 ай бұрын
Cool! I’m really learning a lot from you😊 Edit- I’m actually the first person to comment😅
@mattpease536
@mattpease536 7 ай бұрын
Rev. Chris Rosebrough of Fighting For The Faith/Pirate Christian Radio, one of the greatest forces on the Internet fighting against Word-of-Faith and The New Apostolic Reformation, is also AALC.
@Aram974
@Aram974 6 ай бұрын
Hello Redeemed Zoomer it could be lovely if you did a video about Anglican sub-denominations tierlist!
@thomasninan6423
@thomasninan6423 7 ай бұрын
Can you do an interview with ready to harvest channel host? Like to know more about him
@fidole791
@fidole791 6 ай бұрын
Swedish Lutheran here! My grandpa used to be pastor in the Church in Sweden before it went totally downhill.
@tobiashinrichs6717
@tobiashinrichs6717 6 ай бұрын
Hi @mr.rat78 Are you interested in joining our Reconquista effort ?
@fidole791
@fidole791 6 ай бұрын
@@tobiashinrichs6717 I guess I'm already part of it
@tobiashinrichs6717
@tobiashinrichs6717 6 ай бұрын
@@fidole791 are you in our (European) Reconquista discord server?
@fidole791
@fidole791 6 ай бұрын
@@tobiashinrichs6717 no
@Nonz.M
@Nonz.M 6 ай бұрын
This was a very accurate portrayal of the different Lutheran denominations. One thing to know is that the LCMS and AALC are in communion with each other - we agree on the same doctrine, pastors can preach at each others churches, and we can receive the sacraments from each others churches. We are also in Communion with the Latvian Lutheran Church.
@michaelhartwig9867
@michaelhartwig9867 6 ай бұрын
As a born, raised, and still LCMS Lutheran I really appreciate your assessment of the LCMS. I think your criticisms are fairly on point. Yes we have some extremely conservative Lutherans and individuals who are trying to use our denomination to smuggle in their fascist and antisemitic views in our synods worldview. Additionally, yes we are very isolationist when it comes to fellowship and evangelism efforts in the U.S. (internationally we’re quite social ironically). I will say that the closed/close communion stems from our understanding of communion so any adjustment there will be very gradual. Overall I enjoyed your assessment and appreciated the advocacy you have provided for our denomination in this video.
@Athabrose
@Athabrose 6 ай бұрын
I’m lcms, very astute observations I agree with you.
@andrewbenner6349
@andrewbenner6349 7 ай бұрын
LCMS here. I love you and pray for you and I share your videos all the time. I'm alright with young earth as long as you aren't a strict Ken Hammist. That's just silly.
@stephenhanley7315
@stephenhanley7315 3 ай бұрын
As an LCMS seminarian I can understand the unfriendliness. Thanks for the good word you put in for us!
@greg28
@greg28 7 ай бұрын
Zoomer, Norwegian Catholic here. I am born and raised catholic and my observations on The Lutheran church in Norway are quite similar to yours in Sweden. Wondering if you have any thoughts on the Church of Norway. Love your videos and I saw and liked your talk with Pinesap. I also resonate with you being half Jewish Christian. God Bless You.
@platyna77
@platyna77 7 ай бұрын
As a catholic, i hope all will convert to catholicism/eastern cath. But i have great love and respect to you my protestant brothers and sisters in Christ. Be strong! do not get discouraged
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 6 ай бұрын
I converted last month🇩🇪🙌❤️. So happy . we must fight for tradition
@ConfessGospel
@ConfessGospel 6 ай бұрын
Catholic doctrine is Biblical, read your Bible and you will become Lutheran.
@platyna77
@platyna77 6 ай бұрын
@@ConfessGospel ?
@tomkoon4260
@tomkoon4260 4 ай бұрын
And we hope you join us in the Evangelical Catholic Church later called Lutheran.
@Crimson50
@Crimson50 6 ай бұрын
Would be interested in hearing how the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland compares to American Churches and especially other European ones. I think we are more conservative/orthodox than other Nordics at least? I do remember having plenty of women pastors in my childhood... other than that I got no clue
@cmacattack51
@cmacattack51 2 ай бұрын
where would you put the Association of Free Lutheran Congregations- (AFLC) ON THIS LIST? Just curious as there are those congregations where i live and Apostolic Lutheran Church and Laestadian Lutheran Churches are also in my area. thanks
@Interns-Eternal-Empire
@Interns-Eternal-Empire 7 ай бұрын
can you give me the ip to your minecraft server?
@josephxiang2589
@josephxiang2589 4 ай бұрын
I couldn't find the Presbyterian denominations tier list mentioned at 00:48. Does anyone have a link to it?
@RobertG3567
@RobertG3567 6 ай бұрын
Why do you prioritize traditionalism over isolationism (LCMS and WELS vs. LCMC)? I am curious. Christian unity is a big thing for me.
@luc_theriault
@luc_theriault 6 ай бұрын
Hi, great video . Do you have a similar map for catholic church instead?
@CatholicCoop
@CatholicCoop 7 ай бұрын
Yo, I’m in a first Presbyterian church rn, and it’s pretty nice. Missed mass and went looking for a church; found a Presbyterian church and it doesn’t look too modern, except for the projector
@muellerjac
@muellerjac 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this. I'm an LCMS pastor, can I get my church on your map?
@TheDragonSeer
@TheDragonSeer 6 ай бұрын
Happy WELS member here. Hi!
@kylethomas2993
@kylethomas2993 6 ай бұрын
As an LCMS member I'm sorry to hear that you've had that experience with LCMS members online.
@Liethen
@Liethen 6 ай бұрын
In which tier would you place Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism?
@NitroBoarder17
@NitroBoarder17 6 ай бұрын
hey @Redeemed Zoomer are you familiar with Evangelical Covenent Church (ECC). What are your thoughts on it? I'd great appreciate your insights. Try Wikipedia and the main website of the church for information and would like to hear your thoughts.
@mj6493
@mj6493 6 ай бұрын
I'm not Redeemer Zoomer, but I have a high regard for the ECC, a more pietistic version of Lutheranism. My only misgiving is that their theology and worship style went through a revivalist filter in America whereby they lost much of their Lutheranism. It's different in Sweden where the pietistic impulse remained mostly within Lutheranism, hence the EFS (Evangeliska Fosterlands-Stiftelsen).
@sebodubo6035
@sebodubo6035 7 ай бұрын
I thought that the Lutherans here in Slovakia are theologically liberal, also that they support women pastors and lgbt (I found that out from google). I'm so glad that it's not true.
@SlovakLutheranMonarchist
@SlovakLutheranMonarchist 7 ай бұрын
There are women pastors and bishops. But no LGBT etc. more similar to NALC than ELCA Edit: I am Slovak but not from Slovakia but from Serbia. We are historically Lutheran as Slovak exiles because Habsburg Monarchy was counter-reformationist so we were exiled from Slovakia.
@sebodubo6035
@sebodubo6035 7 ай бұрын
@@SlovakLutheranMonarchist Thank you for the answer, but I was a little disappointed that they let women be pastors. Thank you again for the answer and God bless you
@DissidentReport
@DissidentReport 6 ай бұрын
As a swede do you recommend me going to the super liberal Church of Sweden or finding a more conservative (but not traditional) church?
@yeeteronipizza
@yeeteronipizza 6 ай бұрын
Yooooo, WELS mentioned let's go Edit: A-tier let's go, as for the not praying with people, as a church we don't participate in worship with outside churches (besides ELS who we're in fellowship with). As individuals, I don't know anyone that won't study or pray with other Christians.
@dekatus7746
@dekatus7746 6 ай бұрын
From what I've gathered, there is actually a substancial diffrence between the AALC and LCMS regarding church polity, as the former is episcopal and the latter is congregational (although with a central synod). Dr. Cooper has mentioned having a bishop several times, and I feel like the AALC is the better option in this aspect as the Lutheran reformation really did strive to maintain the episcopate and apostolic succession in continental Europe
@joeletizia4176
@joeletizia4176 6 ай бұрын
I go to an LCMS church. You’re spot on.
@joshc2501
@joshc2501 7 ай бұрын
The AALC is in full altar and pulpit fellowship with the LCMS and my denomination Lutheran Church-Canada. It is a bit odd that they haven't merged though. Heck here in Canada there are some LCMS English District congregations that still haven't joined the LCC. This is seen as fine because Lutherans care more about theological unity than institutional unity.
@calebklingerman7902
@calebklingerman7902 6 ай бұрын
A couple of things: 1) No mention of the LCC (Lutheran Church of Canada)? My understanding is that they are pretty conservative. 2) Didn’t the LCMS also begin to drift liberal and then reverse course? That’s why the WELS removed their altar fellowship status originally, I believe. So that could be considered another example of a reconquista
@thomastheawesome4822
@thomastheawesome4822 6 ай бұрын
I was baptized as a Lutheran, LCMS. My step-father comes from the Dutch Reformed Church, my mother was also Lutheran, my biological father was raised Catholic but turned away from the church he was saved and came back to the church and became a Southern Baptist. Now where would such a diverse family of Christians go to church, I hear you ask? As Presbyterians of course! And to add to that, the majority of my friend group is various flavors of just about every sort of protestant you could think of, Catholic, and even east Orthodox! I couldn't imagine having not having fellowship with anyone but my own denomination!
@HeatherSt.Therese
@HeatherSt.Therese 3 ай бұрын
Catholic here, I love learning about other denominations. This was well put!
@esserman1603
@esserman1603 7 ай бұрын
I am excited
@denzelyeess
@denzelyeess 7 ай бұрын
I like that you mentioned the swedish church even tho it is very corrupt. But it is my country that i love so nice!
@tobiashinrichs6717
@tobiashinrichs6717 7 ай бұрын
Are you in the church of Sweden?
@denzelyeess
@denzelyeess 7 ай бұрын
@@tobiashinrichs6717 i am but it is a very bad church cause it is corrupt by liberals. I think there needs to be a political movement for it to be restored
@The_Great_Letter_E
@The_Great_Letter_E 7 ай бұрын
Could you maybe do a Baptist denomination tier list? Also i think it's kind of funny that the Baptists ate called Baptists, when they're like the only denomination that DOESN'T baptize babies
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 7 ай бұрын
It's because of the vague influence on them from the Anabaptists. They didn't identify as Anabaptists, but they did hold a somewhat similar view on credobaptism, so they wanted to communicate that they were related but distinct. (We're certainly not Coca-Cola, but we are a cola!)
@The_Great_Letter_E
@The_Great_Letter_E 7 ай бұрын
@@MAMoreno oh, that makes sense. Thank you!
@ver939
@ver939 6 ай бұрын
There are actually two conservative factions inside the Church of Sweden. The first one is just a few conservative priests who are like your average right-wing american pastor and then they have some ultranationalist priests. One of them even candidated for the far-right Alternative for Sweden party in his municipality. There was a third conservative faction but they broke off and founded their own Church which I believe is called "The Mission Province". Also, the "Saint Sigfrids Church" on your Historic Churches map is not an actual Luthern church, it is just the building itself that is called Saint Sigfrids Church. It's is now a Russian Orthodox Church called Saint Sergius Russian Orthodox Congregation.
@crypto-qg2qx
@crypto-qg2qx 6 ай бұрын
Zoomer brother, when you mentioned Slovakian lutheran church , the picture of the church in the upper middle is a catholic church in the village of Mosovce, Slovakia. Church of saint Trinity if i remember corectly.I am from that village so i know ,I'm also catholic by the way. But we also have a lutheran church and our village is majority lutheran. God Bless!
@alphacentauri214
@alphacentauri214 6 ай бұрын
I'm Slovak and recently I've become more interested in religion, I'm looking into quran atm but I'm just beginning there. Kudos to you for doing this content!
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
@TheLincolnrailsplitt 6 ай бұрын
Koran?
@alphacentauri214
@alphacentauri214 6 ай бұрын
@@TheLincolnrailsplitt yes
@TheUniversalPrincess
@TheUniversalPrincess 6 ай бұрын
😑I thought Islam was restricted in Slovakia
@alphacentauri214
@alphacentauri214 6 ай бұрын
@@TheUniversalPrincess what are you talking about?
@TheUniversalPrincess
@TheUniversalPrincess 6 ай бұрын
@@alphacentauri214 Slovakia is extremely Islamophobic
@_acipenser
@_acipenser 7 ай бұрын
Hi Redeemed Zoomer, excellent video. I want to tell you that you should probably remove the Lutheran church in Opatija from your map since it is closed due to a legal dispute and will not open anytime soon.
@philipmcniel4908
@philipmcniel4908 6 ай бұрын
Still watching this video, but I wanted to correct something at 4:24 where you talk about closed communion. There's sometimes a little bit of a gray area about whether one must believe all the doctrines of LCMS Lutheranism (no more, no less) in order to commune at an LCMS church, or whether it's enough to be Biblically conservative and believe Lutheran Eucharistic theology. For instance, LCMS pastors are virtually unanimous (in my experience) in being willing to commune members of other conservative Lutheran denominations such as WELS. I don't know as much about WELS, but I would think that they're broadly willing to pray (and probably commune) with conservative LCMS Lutherans as well. Some of this comes down to the fact that for laypeople, membership in LCMS vs. WELS congregations often comes down to geography: If you're a confessional Lutheran and move to a town with only one or the other, you'll typically go to that one regardless of which one you were confirmed in (with the encouragement of your previous pastor!) As for online representation, I think the "based subculture" of Zoomer conservatism is a thing that transcends denominational lines (and even religious lines--see the state of politically right-wing social media right now). If you want to get a more mainstream picture of LCMS Lutheranism, I suggest you check out the Facebook page called "Confessional Lutheran Fellowship." (Yes, it is a fellowship for all confessional Lutherans, including not only the LCMS but also WELS, ELS, and of course non-US-based Lutheran churches, but they tend to welcome good-faith question-asking as long as you aren't trying to be argumentative or "beat" them in a debate.)
@philipmcniel4908
@philipmcniel4908 6 ай бұрын
9:54 When it comes to micro-denominations, I agree with the whole sectarianism thing not necessarily being a good witness, but I think there's something else that has made many Lutheran congregations gun-shy about joining larger denominations: Fear of the larger denomination becoming more liberal at some point. Take the history of the AFLC, for instance: The (Biblically conservative) Lutheran Free Church merged with the ALC, which would later merger with the LCA to become the ELCA. A number of congregations that had been part of the LFC didn't want to join the merger, but through legal action they ended up basically having to start over from scratch because all their assets now legally belonged to the ALC because of the merger. (If I'm told correctly, this included even a seminary!) They eventually became the AFLC. You might think, "Why not just join a major _conservative_ Lutheran denomination then?" But here's the thing: The LCMS has been divided in the past by internal battles over whether it would remain conservative or become liberal. Since these battles didn't finish coming to a head until 1974 (and weren't really resolved until around 2010), _there was a long period when it wasn't obvious that the LCMS would remain conservative._ Actually, even in more recent years there have been some inroads here and there in the Concordia University System (the system of private Lutheran colleges that is run by the LCMS). So while it's true that conservative Lutheranism is perhaps more divided than it should be, some of that division is because of the desire of smaller Lutheran denominations to maintain self-direction as a way to avoid the risk of getting sucked in a more liberal direction (if any given conservative Lutheran denomination should become compromised at some point in the future).
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 6 ай бұрын
I left the LCMS to join the WELS. We don't pray or commune with LCMS. Interestingly, the initial severing of alter and pulpit fellowship was caused by a difference on fellowship.
@philipmcniel4908
@philipmcniel4908 6 ай бұрын
@@craigbenz4835 Does WELS have the same distinction that the LCMS does between members of the _synod_ and members of a _congregation_ in the synod, with only pastors and congregations being members of the synod? Because that might explain some of this. I do know that sometimes, LCMS Lutherans who move to a town with a WELS congregation but no LCMS congregation will--with their pastor's blessing--join the WELS church just because it's confessionally Lutheran.
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ 7 ай бұрын
Redeemed Zoomer did you also cover the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Scandiania in the video The Church of Norway, The Church of Denmark? I am Evangelical Lutheran from Denmark did you cover us?
@W1llbam
@W1llbam Ай бұрын
Er du en del af folkekirken?
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ Ай бұрын
@@W1llbam ja det er jeg.
@W1llbam
@W1llbam Ай бұрын
@@DefenderOfChrist_ Fedt nok. Hvad synes du om det? Har du en kirke at gå i der ikke er for liberal i dens teologi? fx vielse af to af samme køn og kvindelige præster er personligt et no go for mig
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ Ай бұрын
@@W1llbam Uden kvindelige præster det bliver nok svært og undgå vedmindre man er med i en eller anden form for frikirke. Jeg kan godt lide at gå i Vor Frue Kirke og jeg tror ikke det er så slemt, der er vidst 1 kvindelig præst men ellers mandelige præster, og jeg tror ikke de vier homoseksuelle. Har du da fundet en kirke uden kvindelige præster? Zoomer har lavet en ny video hvor der er 6 ikke så kaldte "liberale kirker i Danmark" i følge hans graf, så er det en af dem du går i eller?
@xercesandco7250
@xercesandco7250 7 ай бұрын
I know there is definitely a movement in Gen Z that is craving the traditional, but I would strongly avoid dismissing it as a fad: tis no bad thing to encourage people seeking absolute Truth in Jesus that has persisted through all ages, especially in times so crazy as the present
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 7 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong I completely support that movement. Just want to direct it to traditional Protestantism instead of Orthodoxy
@Rat_8868
@Rat_8868 7 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053“traditional“ protestantism isn’t traditional. what we mean by traditional is following the tradition and practices of the apostles. something that lutherans do not do
@comicsans1689
@comicsans1689 6 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Why direct to Protestantism if you consider Orthodoxy as apart of the true Church?
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 6 ай бұрын
@@comicsans1689 cuz it’s not the only true Church
@comicsans1689
@comicsans1689 6 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053 But if it is apart of the true Church, then it is just as valid as Protestantism in your view. Therefore, why try to steer someone to a particular church like the other options are inferior or invalid? Shouldn't you support people picking one of the "true churches"?
@captainnautilus8761
@captainnautilus8761 7 ай бұрын
As a Swedish Catholic I agree the Church of Sweden is truly awful. Some of our priests don't even believe in hell 😭
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 6 ай бұрын
How is the catholic church there? I am 🇩🇪 and converted last year from lutheranism. Luckily we have a rather good priest but also i try to go to latin mass now and them
@noahhubbard1819
@noahhubbard1819 7 ай бұрын
@14:53 "Why can't (Christians) affirm LGBTQ persons ... and get with the times? Well, because it's a litmus test" Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. I don't understand why most people can't see that... Sometimes I feel like Cassandra - from the Greek myth - pointing out why affirming LGBTQ people is a slippery slope which will one day lead to abandoning Biblical theology altogether, only to have most fellow congregants (who are generally good, nice Christians who want to get along) just poo-poo you as a judgmental, prude. IDK
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 6 ай бұрын
We Catholics are fighting this exact fight now but we will never lose . African bishops and eastern ones are too based to ever allow any blessings and the church recognizes and will always preach and teach that marriage is only male - female❤
@carlh7714
@carlh7714 6 ай бұрын
I am a member of an LCMS church and am going to give my reactions as I watch. A: LCMS: Sweet, you like us. The thing about people online being mean...fair. We are the most aggressive in defending sound doctrine and can be kind of grumpy about it. Directness and abrasiveness are part of our heritage (Germans are known for it; people from St. Louis, Chicago, and that whole area of the Midwest are known for it). That is massively amplified on line, as anything bad tends to be. It's just our culture, so I hope you didn't take it personally. You didn't have any doctrine issues with us, though, which is cool. WELS: You are correct about everything. I was a member at a WELS church for a couple years (the LCMS church in my college town sucked), so they are exceptionally friendly, but guard themselves very tightly spiritually to where members are discouraged (not forbidden) from even praying with people of other denominations, which I thought was weird until I prayed with some people in an interdenominational thing on campus and they prayed some stuff I wasn't okay with signing my name on, so maybe WELS kind of has a point in using this as a defense against praying with the liberals for blessing Pride events and stuff. I think they go a bit overboard with it, but I see their point. LCMS & WELS: Neither let's people who aren't members or members of affiliates Commune with us. We believe that the bread, via miracle, is the body of Christ and bread simultaneously. If you understand what we believe and don't believe it, why would you want to Commune with us, anyway? We're clearly crazy to think something can simultaneously be bread, man, and God. Slovaks: I don't know a thing about them, but you've treated LCMS and WELS fairly, so I'll take your word for it that they're pretty good. B: AALC: I agree with you about these guys. Cooper is a good representative and, for a bit, I was assuming he was LCMS because he seems like an LCMS guy, though a little less grumpy...maybe that's the difference. The AALC is people who would be LCMS but just weren't grumpy enough to make the cut. I know there have been a couple disagreements between the LCMS and AALC, but nothing big enough to justify them being separate denominations as far as I know. NALC: The still ordain women, which is directly contrary to Scripture, but you still put them as B? That’s the first point I’ll strongly disagree with you on. On the matter of splitting, I think you’re right to a degree and I think your denomination may be saved by people like you. I think the ELCA is too far gone and that any real Christian in the ELCA needs to abandon ship. They aren’t a Christian denomination anymore. There may be good congregations or individuals hanging on, but the ELCA, as a whole, has turned its back on God and hardened its heart Pharaoh style. C: LCMC: I don’t know them, but will say Lutherans always suck at contemporary worship style D: ELCA: I think I covered this in the NALC section. I’d put them as F, but I won’t quibble D vs. F. I do have to thank you, though, for telling me about SOLA. Perhaps the ELCA isn’t quite the lost cause I thought it was. I’ll have to check out their website and see and possibly revise my opinions on it IF they want to abandon enough of the false doctrine that I think the movement is valuable. F Church of Sweden: I forgot that they claim to be Lutheran. I say “claim” because we have confessions. It’s one confession, actually; the Augsburg Confession, which says what we are and these guys ain’t it. S Latvians: I don’t know much, but I’ve vaguely heard very good things. Thank you for this video. I enjoyed it and think it was a very fair treatment of us and our apostate sisters. And to learn about Lutheranism, I agree that Cooper has the best videos out there these days. Christ's peace be with you.
@coffeehousedialogue5684
@coffeehousedialogue5684 7 ай бұрын
If you do an Anglican tier list, I recimmend adding CONNAM (Church of Nigeria North American Mission), since that mission done by the Church of Nigeria has a presence in the US, and the Church of Nigeria is historic. I plan on getting confirmed into there due to GAFCON. The Reformed Episcopal Church is historic-ish, but niwhere near me. Abd the TEC? Yeah, no. I am not driving all the way to the northern Indiana border for an Episcopalian church in the Reconquista.
@andrewborchelt305
@andrewborchelt305 7 ай бұрын
His comments on my (LCMS) denomination is a reminder for everyone that having charity in your ecumenical discussions is not only important for your denominations reputation but its also what Christ asks of you. Love thy neighbor and thy enemies. Dont let your zeal for right doctrine be a millstone for your neck. If you use personal attacks or cruel language in your defense of the faith then you have betrayed it.
@Qsen123
@Qsen123 Ай бұрын
everything you said about the church of sweden resonates with me in finland aswell. I can't even think of a single person i have ever met who has expressed some kind of belief in god(apart from migrants and immediate circles), even during visits to the church, confirmation etc. And most people as a result of being brought up entirely atheist most people also celebrate liberalization of the church.
@pawlaovicto7824
@pawlaovicto7824 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video. There's hope for worldwide Protestantism.
@restedassurance
@restedassurance 7 ай бұрын
A WELS member, lay minister, and soon councilman. While yes, official statements of our branch warn of participating in worship with other sects, from my experience this isn't something super enforced. We don't have spies watching to see if you pray with a Calvinist haha. As you know, the WELS uphold strictness in doctrine in order to combat liberal theology. As consequence, you come to two extremes. You can be too light like the ELCA saying it's okay for everyone to have different beliefs, or you can be too strict and say praying with other sects subconsciously invites a sense of full fellowship and unity. While I don't necessarily agree with the degree it is often taken, I'd rather stand with the extreme which cares about unity of doctrine. As result of our Synod's strong emphasis on unity, every single pastor of our churches is taught, believes, and preaches the exact same doctrines to a T. While the LCMS may allow slightly different interpretations here and there, the WELS is as confessional as confessional can get. People give the WELS and WELS members a bad rep. I've been WELS my entire life and have never encountered such "horror stories". I reckon it may be individuals who are offended by our Synod's strictness. But I could be wrong.
@gerafka
@gerafka 7 ай бұрын
Please add other churches on the map. I would like to find orthodox/Armenian churches in other countries because i myself follow Armenian Apostolic Church which is Oriental Orthodox. Thank you and God bless you
@DrGero15
@DrGero15 5 ай бұрын
17:45 What do you mean "speaking like a Presbyterian" ? The Church of Scotland is a state church and is the origin point/mother church for Presbyterian churches.
@ralkumar8254
@ralkumar8254 7 ай бұрын
Good Info on various theological denominations in Lutheran. I am a Christian and I have One concern that bothers me in Christianity. When I see the falling apart world 🌍 where in countries like mine, where there is always a reason for persecution why can't these denominations come together and pray by putting their differences. For all the denominations the basic command of love your God with all you heart and love your neighbour is the same which should be followed throughout the world.
@Godfrey118
@Godfrey118 7 ай бұрын
I drive 45 minutes to go to an LCMS church and it's worth it!
@fjrjf123
@fjrjf123 6 ай бұрын
My local lcmc church actually does both traditional services and contemporary services
@tringapore9820
@tringapore9820 6 ай бұрын
You missed out in ELDONA - Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America. It's defo S tier very fundamental in its teachings of the Bible and administering of the Sacrament.
@kyloren6396
@kyloren6396 6 ай бұрын
I’m Swedish and don’t go in the State Church but one near my school has a red dragon with really sus horns as the mascot for their child ministry, they also hung up massive pride flags inside the church and also preached about Harry Potter once. So after school I went there and wrote out Deuteronomy 18:20 with prayer pebbles at the altar. Basically sent a divine death threat to the female priest who runs that place. Best thing I ever did lol.
@wylldchyld3116
@wylldchyld3116 6 ай бұрын
Reformed tier list?
@edim108
@edim108 3 күн бұрын
I just got back from my trip to Riga and I get this video recommended, nice. In the Riga Old Town you can't walk 5 minutes without seeing an amazingly beautiful church. It's great! In the Old Town alone you have the Riga Cathedral, St. Peter's, St. John's, Reformation Church, St.Jacob's Cathedral, St.Mary Magdalene, St.Saviour's Anglican, Our Lady of Sorrows. All in an area less than 1/4 of New York's Central Park. There are more than 8 churchers per square mile in the Riga Old Town 😂
@zvaramartin
@zvaramartin 6 ай бұрын
I am a Slovak Lutheran from Serbia, although I would still consider myself pretty lukewarm... I hope that in time I will turn to God properly 😁
@Sillyhaerin
@Sillyhaerin 6 ай бұрын
Hi redeemed zoomer, Please let me know if I’m doomed, recently I’ve been reading the Bible more and more and I read that the unforgivable sin is saying evil words against the Holy Spirit (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit) but long ago I was listening to a song and it had words that are against the Holy Spirit and I was so dumb and so stupid that I sand that one line out of my mouth but remember this was before I knew that if you want more details on the line let me know cause I really don’t wanna spend eternity without Christ 😢😔❤️✝️ And i currently feel away from god when I want to be closer to god and I feel like he ain’t listening to my prayers
@billotron5521
@billotron5521 6 ай бұрын
If you mean evil words like swear words, then you certainly don't need to worry. If not then probably 99% of people would be going to hell and I doubt that 99% of people are damned.
@comicsans1689
@comicsans1689 6 ай бұрын
Do not despair. Instead of reading a Bible by yourself, read the commentaries of the saints on it. But more importantly, go to your nearest traditional Catholic church so that you can learn the true faith and join the true Church.
@mr.mclemon8605
@mr.mclemon8605 6 ай бұрын
The LCMS was drifting into liberalism. However, we were lucky and a conservative Lutheran took over Concordia Publishing House and removed all the theological liberalism. Along with that was some key changes in upper management in the church structure. Recently Pastors and Church members of LCMS are actively fighting some internal battles with a few liberalized schools and practices. If you are apart of this denomination, please keep your eyes out for heresy. Sadly we are in the process of rooting out internal theological subversion.
@dimkits
@dimkits 7 ай бұрын
1:40 Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod (LCMS) [A] 4:49 Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) [A] 6:51 Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession in Slovakia (the only Lutheran church in Slovakia) [A] 8:48 American Association of Lutheran Churches (AALC) [B] 10:04 North American Lutheran Church (NALC) [B] 12:14 Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ (LCMC) [C] 14:23 Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) [D] 17:13 Church of Sweden [F] 19:11 Evangelical Lutheran Church of Latvia [S]
@KoniWorx
@KoniWorx 6 ай бұрын
I'm from Sweden and I have to agree. Our church is extremely corrupted by fleshly desire and wishful thinking and it's so frustrating. I honestly don't know where to turn to to worship God at this point because every church I've gone to has massive issues.
@svarog8674
@svarog8674 7 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting a church from my hometown to be on the thumbnail.😂 (Modra, Slovakia)...I'm catholic though...
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