Thank you 🙏

Did you get it?

Thank you 🙏

Onyx rcr’s are $1000 dollars off rn for Black Friday, look into it, much better bike for $200 more. This lyric for $4500 (with two batteries) is not good lmao

Had it in my cart also and never pulled the trigger... Omg the torque starting at the bottom of that hill was pitiful...

Just get the super73 it's amazing

@@ericcariaga7052 they tuned it that way on purpose.

@@Trillville43 why? Assuming that's true I still don't want a bike with no torque... I'm not interested in that tune.

I think very soon, if not already?

I'm in the same boat. I havn't seen any reviews from owners yet. I'm wondering if any production models have been sent? I'm a little concerned because, like you I didn't realize that the bike wasn't yet in full production when I ordered.

Can’t wait for a review!

Nice! Yes I was told you were the next stop, I liked your take on it, seems we made similar observations. Glad I made it home before the battery ran out! Too bad we didn’t get to run it with dual batteries

Seems many have this same concern

Would love to, I guess they had it at the LA auto show for a peek, but I missed that opportunity. I hope I can try it soon!

Grizzly does have that rear suspension for a nicer ride, the dual geared hub motors on the grizzly are likely better for 0-10mph and steep hill climbs but the direct drive Lyric is likely better from 10-30 mph acceleration and higher speed performance. Both are sweet, I think the style of the lyric is better personally. Hope this helps!

@@JuicedJoyrides is the motor more quite than the grizzly?

@@JuicedJoyrides I just bought the Grafitti...hope it lives up to the specs. I am worried about not having rear suspension. For some reason, those 3 cross bars on the Grizzly handlebar put me off. It was a tough choice for me between the Graffiti and the Hypersorpion. Top speed, range, rear foor pegs and belt are what sucked me in. I'll have to source mirrors and something to iprove on that rear rack seperatly.

@@davidwarner6755so how are you liking the grafitti now?

@@RandomMotoThings didn't get it Got a refund instead and purchased a Revv1 and CTY2. The Revv1 has awesome looks but I have/had some problems with mine and find it a little lackluster. Mine tops out at only 31mph and I only weigh 130lbs. Honestly, its been a bit of a pain. However, no probs with the CTY2 but I'm not as keen on the looks. Very fast though (more than I need) and did cost about a grand more.

I actually agree with your assessment. I mean for the price and full suspension, bandit makes more sense in my opinion. But I heard they made some upgrades to the lyric since I last rode it.

@@JuicedJoyrides They have. There's also a forthcoming Lyric Graffiti X with full suspension and a much larger battery. I feel like I might just wait for that guy. Your channel is awesome by the way! I used to live in LA and ride my Zero SR everywhere you do reviews.

Not sure if you went for the upgrade. But if you're going to, the ecplise version of the Lyric Cycle is on sale for $900 off right now 01/20/2024.

I actually do not, but that does look like an interesting bike that I would love to review if I could get my hands on one

It’ll fit you for cruising, pedaling will be goofy. The length of the seat cushion is fine, I’m not sure if you’re talking about extending it onto that little rack back there, but that’s pretty far back so I’d say no.

It wasn’t active on this bike

I'm 6'5" - pedaling feels natural up to about 20 with the stock gear ratio

Get an extra $100 off that with my code JUICEDJOYRIDES

It’s a split belt. There is a rivet holding the belt together.

Wish they would have let us try that setup

No you can’t as doesn’t have a battery blender and they when with a switch instead. So you have to switch from one to other battery, since both are not connected at same time. The reason they did that is using regenerative braking which isn’t compatible with battery blenders.

@@thetechgenie7374 they are saying it peaks at like 4600 watts though and one of those battery packs cant hold anything bigger than like a 45-50a bms. maybe they mean phase amps or its just marketing

@@Timbodacious The cells are rated for 8 amps each and in a 5p configuration as 17.5 Ah capacity. So they won’t be able to push more then 40 amps continuous max. So likely they are using a 30 amp to 35 amp BMS and likely what going to fit in casing as the regular shark casing it not the jumbo shark. You don’t want to push them at max as you have power cut off issues and Samsung 35e in 5p are good for about 30 to 35 amps continuous as any higher voltage sag becomes a issue and would cut controller out prematurely. Then the controller itself at 52v setup is go up to 2000w? A lot of people including myself used this controller with Bafang builds and tested it to max. It also what Grin technology uses to make his Franken runner controller which is a derivative of this controller. The famous Phaserunner is hitch is also ASI electronics. They good 500w to 2000w pretty much. You can get the 90 amps peak phase current out of them but you need additional heat sinking so won’t overheat and 72v setup with a real 50 amp continuous battery. The dual battery version of the Lyric Graffiti doesn’t have both batteries connected at same time as they decide to go the switch route instead of battery blender/equalizer as they did brake regeneration and not compatible with battery blenders.

@@Timbodacious They thankfully updated their website before they advertised 2500w nominal continuous and they had that in the battery tech specs as well. Now they change to 2500w motor and took away the nominal continuous part and left the 4700w peak. Before they had controller at 90 amps and put it now at 50 amps. The problem I had was they were advertising it as nominal continuous current everywhere on they site and was how was they we’re marketing it on their website? They did try to argue the reasoning and I explained to them why that was wrong so I guess they finally updated website? Yep have to do a update video on that one. I didn’t see that one.

Haha true

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2500 continuous, 4700w for peak bursts of power

there are other fish in the sea

Best is Rcr, then cty2, then graffiti

Lyric Voodoo, video on my channel

It's fake stats, i bet you. You can't run a 52V battery this high with no loss.

@@nikp1381 I did videos explaining why it fake specifications.

I gave my assessment of range at the end of the video, I think 20 to 30 miles is a realistic expectation, however, like every other electric bike, it will significantly depend on how much you weigh, and how hard you accelerate and how fast your average speed is. Maintaining a high average speed will kill an electric vehicle battery faster than anything else. I think ultimately the best way to determine the range for an electric bike is to simply look at the white hours of the battery. This is a 48 V system and a 20 amp hour battery. That equates to 960 W hours of energy on a bike that weighs in the neighborhood of 80 pounds or so. So, like I said, 20 to 30 miles as what I would expect, you could certainly get more than less if you ride conservative and pedal more. Hope this helps dude.

😂 yes sir

Both are very different machines 😆, I choose the Sur Ron personally

Seems to be they are going in that direction just using their brand to cash in on all the people who don’t know there’s better products out there at a lower cost

38ish

Are you crazy. Most ppl buy those ugly lectric bikes. Ppl who spend 3000 dollars care about performance

yeah but sometimes ugly grows on you with grunt and speed

Super73 are polished for sure. I think they underperform for the price. They kinda are, or were, the cool toy to have, but now they’re everywhere and nothing special in my opinion

Actually it won't "always" be the no 1 bike...if you haven't noticed there are new e bikes coming out every month that blow 73's specs out of the water for a cheaper price. Has super 73 done anything on improvements? Nope. I liked the 73's frame but it's not worth spending 3700 on a bike that only does 31mph and very slow off the start. The e bike market is exploding and 73 is lagging big time.

This bike has a belt drive. Right off the bat, I'd buy this bike over the super73. Also, no durailleurs makes this bike much more reliable than any chain drive/derailleur system. BTW, 95% of all the moped style ebike are ugly anyway, so who cares?

Yeah, I was not really impressed by the hill, climbing performance, but the speed is pretty decent. And yeah, it does seem like they’re shipping and actual production is behind schedule.

You’re not wrong