Tomer over here with the jokes "Magus of the Moat is a trench too far." I see you Tomer, that was a great one.

The plural of magus is magi. As in, the Three Magi.

I liked it when Magus of the wheel said "its maggin time!" and magged my hand away.

Just a heads up, for anyone who cares: the plural of magus is magi, such the Three Magi who visited Jesus on his birth.

This actually makes me wanna build 5-color Maguses(?). Bunch of haste enablers like Rhythm of the Wild and Fervor, some mass reanimation like Patriarch's Bidding. Seems really bad, but fun if it works out.

More podcasts like this one. Ranking Charms, commands, elder dragons, etc.

I feel like we need Richards opinion on Magus of the Library. He’s a king of holding onto a hand for fear of the board being wrathed because someone else is popping off

Magus of the Library is insane. It's one of my pet commander cards. If it isn't drawing you cards, it's making you mana.

One nice thing about Magus of the Moat: It combos with Archetype of Imagination

This is a little off topic but I'd love to see them try some ideas in the next seasons to help push more variety and less staples. 1. A singleton season. Each player can play each card only once for the season. No ban list because even the broken cards like mana crypt won't be as obnoxious when you can only play them once. I think it'd be real interesting to see the different players approach. Do they put the good cards together or spread them out? 2. Veto power. Each player builds their deck but then the other 3 players get to look at the decklist and remove a certain number (3 to 5?) of cards they don't want to play against (cyclonic rift? Rhystic Study? opposition agent?). They then add to their own deck the appropriate number to bring it to a full deck. Obviously they can't remove your commander. 3. Commander draft. I know this is logistically challenging but I think it'd really fun to watch. I'd even go back to watch the draft from each player's perspective. Commander draft is a LOT of fun. They could do draft from a Commander cube or if they were feeling ambitious they draft fantasy football style. I don't know if magic online supports this so they might have to use some other program or method for the draft but then still play the game as normal.

Think it should also be mentioned that Magus of the Candelbra also works great with utility lands. Second Maze of Ith activation, second card draw off lands that allow card draw, etc. Can also be used politically if needed since you can uptap another player's lands so they can board wipe or something.

in all seriousness i would love to see a season of commander clash where you do play the “salty” cards like blood moon and mindslaver. I feel it would give some perspective as to whether or not these cards are actually problematic. It is rather difficult to sort through a lot of edh chatter that cries about any form of interaction let alone stacks and mean cards.

Yayy you put together the actual tier list image!! Thanks for the time taken to do that!

32:30 Seth, Magus of the Candelabra is the perfect way to change your powerstone mana in real mana ;).

These are balanced by being creatures so they’re easier to deal with. So run them in Myrkul and make them enchantments 😮

I loved Seth comment at 53:45 "For someone who loves drawing cards and making mana, you always hate on cards that do both..." But Seth, you're talking to Tomer... the one that keeps insisting on Far Away being good, no matter how many times that card has proven to suck...

I think the plural of "magus" is "magi"

One thing y'all didn't mention about Magus of the Abyss and Magus of the Tabernacle is that they're REALLY good in a Myrkul, Lord of Bones deck. That deck breaks the symmetry of their effects since you want most of your creatures to die anyhow, and the magi work just as well when they come back as enchantments. Great choice with Myrkul to buy the time you need to set up and combo off.

I really want a Magus of the Bog who etb exiles target players graveyard. I'd call him Bojuka Bob

OMG they finally added a tier list. Insane, I love it

Once you've played against Root Maze and Back to Basics, Blood Moon and Magus feel like a vacation.

I hope in the future they can bring Richard back for a 5-person cast because I miss his opinions on the podcasts

We have a mono red player (Daretti) in our weekly pod who uses blooodmoon, mindslaver, nev's disk and darksteel forge. Usually the rest of the table gets salty when he slaps down bloodmoon but I tend to hold my removal for something more threatening and just slowly build my board. 9/10 times it's more of a them problem.

Seth was so right about The Library. The upside of drawing a single card on a two-mana dork is a pretty large one, and it can easily be better.

Hot take: Telegraphed threats are more fun. It allows more of those corny "Game Knights" moments where the whole table is like "Oh NO guys! That is a HUGE THREAT! We only have ONE turn to deal with that or we All DIE!!!" It makes me chuckle when the table collectively clenches at the cards I play.

Another thing about magus of the coffers is that it combos with untap effects, like Sword of the Paruns/Staff of Domination etc. I honestly kinda value it equally with coffers in my mono black deck as a result.

I feel like Magus of the Moon should have got an S because it's the only magus actually played in eternal formats and smashes when it does so. Plus, unlike most other Magi, you can coco or chord into it. And it dicks on tron in Modern, which deserves an S rating all on its own

Yes i am entertained. Love the way you visualized the tier list in this vid switching between the card alone and then showing the overal list.

I love the new borders around the face cams, very sleek

Magus of the Moon is one of the Magi I actually play. A lot of my friends play almost entirely nonbasic lands, feels great to budget lockdown their entire deck.

I love magus of the mind in my imoti/keruga deck. cascade on the front half, then cast a 6 next turn to cascade again, activate magus for 2 more spells that could potentially also cascade! it's win-more but incredibly fun.

0:33 i was like wait what? there is a magus with scroll rack on it, but tomer was mistaken (sadly) he meant cursed scroll (A lot less exciting)

I have an Esper Fliers deck in paper, and I think that Magus of the Moat is actively bad for fliers decks. Your attackers are all dinky small fliers so there's no way you're applying enough pressure to all three of your opponents. It's better to let your opponents threaten each other and you pick off the stragglers. And also one of the most powerful and popular archetypes is Dragon themed decks, which ignore your Magus and have actually threatening flying bodies.

Love the change to your tiers!

Magus of the Bazaar is a great! However, like you'll said: Specific Good. I really enjoyed it Damia, Sage of Stone to make sure I could draw/discard to trigger Bone Miser etc.

Magus of the disk does not require sacrificing it, that might be a relevant point to bump it up. You can play it along with the original Avacyn for fun times.

I’ve been playing the blue enchantment that copies the pendrel vale effect, mists of pendrel vale. It’s made me want to try the magus because it is insanely taxing on decks that rely on creatures in any way. I can’t put it with that enchantment rn because that’s a mono U deck, though

These are some very generous grades. feel like the grading was on a curve this week.

I have magus of the balance in my Surprise Party deck with Folk Hero + Burakos as my commanders, and it’s performed pretty well since Burakos is inherently treasure ramp so I’m not really down, and the only non party creature in the deck is tergrid to flash out in response to my magus trigger, or Stick together. Obviously a lot needs to happen for that to work, but that is the ceiling for it in my deck, and the floor is I just use the treasures Burakos gives me it’s very nice as a creature to add to the party

Okay so Magus of the Library, I'm definitely not saying it's good. But Phil's point about having a 3 drop commander, I dont even think that's necessary. If you can play it on turn two, you should be able to draw a decent amount of cards. Turn 1, 7 cards in hand, draw to 8, play a land back to 7. Turn 2, draw back to 8, play a land and the Magus, down to 6. Turn 3, draw back to 7, tap magus to draw to 8, now you can do a land drop and play one other card. As long as you continue playing two cards per turn, your normal draw + magus draw will cancel them out and keep you hovering between 6 and 8 cards in hand indefinitely. If you need to play 3 cards in one turn, you'll break the streak. But in that case, cast your commander instead of a card from your hand the next turn, and then youll be back in the cycle. Or let's say you get down to only 0 or 1 lands in hand, you could skip a land drop to get back up to 6 (meaning next turn you draw to 7 and tap him for 8 getting you back in the cycle). I mean so long as you don't need the land to cast what you need. Because chances are decent that the next card you draw won't be a land, probably around 60%, so youll have that land ready for the next turn when you hit 7 cards in hand and now you can get back in that cycle. I think if you get it early and play your cards correctly with hand size in mind, you can get an extra draw for 3 or 4 turns at least. TLDR, regular draw + magus draw = 2 cards per turn so if you average casting 2 cards per turn you can keep it going, and correct if you get off track with a cantrip, casting your commander, skipping a land drop, etc. If your deck is built right thats close to an extra card for every turn of the game.

Candelabra secondary use is probably filtering, when you need specific pips of mana, you can turn your other lands by tapping and untapping certain lands

Have you ever thought of rating on board wraths? Magus of the balance, Nev's disk, perilous vault etc etc....I think they're criminally underrated in commander as people play strangely when there's an onboard wrath staring them in the face....

Hot Take: Magus of the Arena is a sleeper pick. In an equipment deck, it pairs with Stuffy Doll and Brash Taunter & Blazing Sunsteel or Fiendlash very well. And can benefit from Zirda (cause it will be in your equipment deck). Please do not ignore the fact that it taps both creatures so in response to declaring blockers you can tap Stuffy Doll or Taunter then tap the big creature they kept back. Trust

One more thing against poor old Magus of the Future: he makes you play with the top card revealed. Most of the newer “play off the top” cards out there let you “look at” and play the top card, so you’re not telegraphing your move

excellent, looking forward to the Spellshaper tier list

The Magi came in cycles, first three were over the Time Spiral block, Artifacts, Lands and Enchantments. Then we got Sorceries via different supplemental sets. Now it's instants next up I guess?

I love Magus of the Will because it was an all star in my $30 Prosper storm deck but yeah as you guys pointed out both Yawgmoth's Will and it's magus counterpart are basically only good in storm decks they're really not meant to be used as recursion.

Circle of Dreams Druid is my favorite magus. So good.

Magus of the Candelabra is really good in Hydra style decks running Nexos out of the Warhammer decks. You put in a little bit of build around and get an really good 3 mana triple my mana for most of my spells effect.

I would play magus of the balance then play Teferi’s Protection to guarantee that the effect will happen

Turn 1 Forest - Magus of the Vineyard Turn 2 Forest - Natural order the Magus for Progenitus

Actually, Magus of the Mind also doesn't work exactly like the original because OG reshuffles after each reveal while Magus only shuffles before the first card revealed.

Sweet bloodmoon guitar Seth!

The thing about Magus of the Library is that you will almost never have it on turn 2. You’re more likely to draw it on turn 6 when you probably don’t have nearly enough cards in hand and it’s a terrible late-game card

for the record Magus of the Jar is great in wheel decks like Xyris and Nekusar

Looks like you missed the cool interaction of giving Magus of the Disk indestructible (with Shield of Kaldra) and this way you have a sticky mass removal on board :d

As ive learned from balance in vintage cube, its more a boardwipe than anything. as a creature itll eat up removal like crazy but it can stop any go wide shenanigans if hasted, or flashed in.

My favorite memory of my Group Hug deck involved Magus of the Vineyard! T1 - Magus T2 - Tempt with Reflections on Magus (everyone got the copies) And then the game just got silly

Magus of the Tabernacle actually has a critical difference between the original whether it's upside or downside is debatable depending on the situation. But the original says destroy not sacrifice. So while you can't play indestructible creatures if your own it does actually tax your opponents indestructible creatures which is worth noting. Played both for years together in legacy and this was my only creature that could attack lol. Not practical to do that anymore though.

I think magus of the moon is fine to play. Its going to be more effective in higher power decks since people will tend to run more non-basic lands but also more interaction. In lower power decks people will have enough basics that they can answer it after magus hits the battlefield. This is obviously situational since lower power decks can run tapped duals but I don't think it will happen a lot or effect enough lands.

24:00 Classic "Hand Thinning" - Magus of the Bazaar 😂

Fun fact, there IS an effect just like balance and magus of the balance, its just called Balancing Act! costs twice as much mana but hits MORE stuff!

I love magus of the moon in edh. I play alot of aggro and for me the key is throwing in a bit of stax.

Pendrell Mists is handy if you want the tabernacle effect without needing to pay to keep your creatures alive.

I started to collect these guys a while ago.... I loved magus of the bazar in my ludevic/olag self mill. Seems the argument about it is that is bad in the long game but nobody force you to activate him. For 2 mana is still very good

I can confirm that magus of the bazaar is really good in Toluz. 2 mana double howling mine for just me is gas

Magus of the library is solid. You can always tap it to draw before you start casting spells. You just need to decide if you need the mana first or not.

I like Magus of the Tabernacle in Kambal Stax, with 2 mana per turn, it hurts everyone. Isn’t great but definitely fits the bill of hurting all decks

I was also sick all holiday too. Yay

It really isn’t hard to draw optimally with magus of the library until it gets real late in the game, by which point drawing any other superior mana dork is just as bad. The key with it is you have to activate it before you play your land. If you can manage to have 7 at any point you can always draw a card off magus since magus draws you to 8, play a land and a spell down to 6, then draw step to 7 again on your next turn to rinse and repeat. Any incidental card draw will let you double spell, and with how good green is at drawing cards that won’t be difficult.

Its not exactly the same but think of magus of the abyss like a repeatable plaguecrafter/flashbag/etc so works nice in sime aristocrat style decks.

Now I want to see a commander clash episode where someone plays a deck with of the Magus of X cards.

On Magus of the Will: If you can dump your whole deck into the bin and activate this you win on the spot. Hermit druid and this on the board with the mana to activate both is GG Hermit druid: dump whole deck Magus of the will: Access to whole gy Hit free rocks> then cheap rocks> then infinite mana combo then play your whole deck or a wincon. The reason that this doesnt see play is the same reason Slivers are in a tough spot. It's too slow for CEDH but too brutal for Casual play.

Does Magus of the Disc not sacrificing bump it up to B? If you can flicker it, or make it or your side indestructible then it´s pretty good.

Magus of the Balance is insane in my mono white AO deck.

People forget about the suspend version Restore Balance but it is legal and only 1 mana. You just need a way to speed up the suspend counters or wait 6 turns for it to go on the stack. Also, Candelabra of Tawnos doesn't have to be tapped, which is why it's astronomically better than its Magus compared to a lot of the others.

I‘m actually thinking about getting a Magus of the Order for my Henzie EDH Deck… could be spicy 🌶

Love the new look!

As someone who plays Magus Lucea Kane I am slightly upset shes not on this list. Kidding but good content!

If your deck wants a tabernacle effect, that magus is incredibly close to the actual card. Tabernacle is a land that doesn’t tap for mana, a creature that costs 1 each upkeep also costs you a land. If I’m playing tabernacle my deck probably has 5 or less creatures and this one can still block

The problem with Magus of the Library is that you gotta cut more efficient cards to include it. More efficient mana generating cards, more efficient draw spells. And that sacrifice will turn into a mediocre card at borh things that can only accomplish one of them CONDITIONALLY Also, you gotta tap it to draw, so you're NOT ramping in the early game. Most likely you will discard stuff to hand size. Maybe it's good in a heavy recursion deck?

Less than one minute in and Tomer already confused the greatest magic card ever for Scroll Rack and didn't know the plural of magus was magi 😭

Bout time they brought in the actual tierlist, always teasing it in the thumbnail

Tabernacle could be good in the one god from the DnD set? The one who turns creatures into enchantments. Cause then you can just let it die and suddenly it's just normal Tabernacle.

I used to use magus of the bazaar in my Moldrotha deck. Worked wonders. Basically you use it any deck you'd want to mill your self. Of course Seth would be down on this card. it doesn't derp and give you card advantage. The way to look at this card is, you milling 2 cards and discarding 1 BUUUT you get to choose what gets milled and whats stays to a limited extent. The bigger you hand size the better this card becomes. It is NOT a card advantage engine. Even in Muldrotha its still bringing you down a card except for the fact your graveyard is your 2nd hand to a lesser degree but there are times where you see things you don't necessarily want to discard/mill but that comes down to proper deck construction and discipline on when you use this cards activated ability. If you can't stand to let go of cards in your hand then this is not the card for you. You have to be able to look at your current hand say I am willing to lose one of these cards to dig into my deck.

Take it from someone who has been cussed out by multiple different people at Commander nights. It is not an internet problem. If you counter or play blood moon. People will cuss you out.

Magus if Library is soooo good in my Kogla the Titan Ape deck. Being a human is clutch. And in monogreen, tapping for colorless is about as useful as tapping fir green, especially considering I have GG to cast magus in the first place

Sidisi dredge is actually super fun gotta add that magus now

Magus of the Wheel is definitely my favorite one. I can't afford a Wheel of Fortune so it's nice to have something like it on a body

I would argue that there is a difference between destroying lands and playing blood moon. If the blood moon gets destroyed, all your lands are fine. It's much harder to reverse an Armageddon. You can also play more basics. It does hit 4/5 color decks harder, but if you want to play those decks, you are signing up for having some problems with your mana base. They print a lot of ways to punish non basics just like they print ways to get rid of graveyards.

In defense of the bridge, if it worked from the graveyard it'd be even better than the actual bridge from below right? Being exactly the same with a more relevant card type

Hot take on Magus of the Bazaar: It's deceptive, bc you're comparing it to Bazaar of Bagdad. It's not that! It's a spellshaper, that turns any card in your hand into a 0 mana Faithless Looting, except you even get to draw the cards before playing the spell!

Vineyard is actually pog in my Yurlok deck, as mana burn exists. So the people who can't use green mana struggle. And it just helps me :)

I love blood moon hosed games, I would vote to play it in commander clash

I’ve been brainstorming a modern deck to take fnm that uses magus of the bridge. Mono black devotion with Gravecrawler, voidwalker, magus, phyrexian obliterator, and grey merchant

With Memory Jar you don't always want to crack the turn you play it- most effectively it would be the turn after anyways when you have that 5 mana it costs to cast it untapped (when the Magus wouldn't have summoning sickness anymore anyway). Any deck that wants Memory Jar (for non-artifact reasons) wants Magus of the Jar- it's the same argument for Magus of the Bazaar, so I think it deserves a B And Magus of the Candelabra does mana fix before you get your spicy land, which is a much more decent floor than "does nothing"

Totally Fair: Dropping blood moon on a group of people aware of, and under the understanding they need to be able to handle, a blood moon Dick Move: Dropping blood moon on a group of people entirely unused to commonly playing against blood moon.

People don't play magus of the order because of all the reasons you guys said. It's a flashing kill me sign in most cases lol. Also Magus of the wheel is the goat. I have a rakdos wheel deck with new Chainer at the helm, and magus is the best wheel in the deck. Wheel every turn!

Man, the sound on this episode is all over the place. Half the time I’m being screamed at, half the time it’s whispers.

How do we get involved in suggesting decks for user-submitted commander clash episodes? Is there a discord link?