The Baby Snatcher. Did She Deserve It Or A Victim Herself? Mystery & Makeup GRWM

The Baby Snatcher. Did She Deserve It Or A Victim Herself? Mystery & Makeup GRWM | Bailey Sarian

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@megh694 2 жыл бұрын

You can have *compasion* for the abuse a person suffered in their past and at the same time fervently condemn them and their actions. Two truths can exist at the same time.

@ryesophia8431 2 жыл бұрын

👏🏻👏🏻

@shawnawilford4443 2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that! I think you nailed this case with that statement

@brandibyrd4738 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great way to put it!

@shritichand9642 2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said

@lizzm 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly 👏🏻👏🏻

@TheSugaroreo 2 жыл бұрын

When it comes to perpetrators with traumatic backgrounds, it’s okay to feel bad for the child version of them but it’s important to hold the adult version of them accountable for their actions. But accountability can also be done with empathy and consideration of their traumatic background, which Bailey does so well.

@katelynlajune9907 2 жыл бұрын

Very well said!

@solay825 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s was perfect

@Forgiven313 2 жыл бұрын

That's the perfect way to describe that!

@angenev2008 2 жыл бұрын

So wise !

@JordynMariah979 2 жыл бұрын

Very true, also I love your profile picture ❤️ so dang cute 😍

@victorialeeder2651 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a little late watching this, but as an EMT who often arrives on scenes like this one with cops/detectives/etc, I can confirm that my place of work does provide a certain amount of free therapy to all of us first responders. What's scary, and something I certainly find the longer I work there, is that only a small amount of people will actually accept it. We are encouraged not to dismiss our feelings but we do it anyway. It's one of the worst parts of the job, learning to live with those ghosts you couldn't even begin to save. I can't imagine what those who discovered this scene went through, especially her poor mother.

@jackiechild9740 2 жыл бұрын

If it's being offered for free everyone should seek therapy, if having to deal with anything like this case. You need someone to talk to that isn't connected to it in any way. Trauma will have a negative impact on your life, whether it is current or historical. It's easier to deal with when it's current... after some time it is so much harder

@vanityplates3125 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for what you do.

@cphilips66 2 жыл бұрын

First responders I know chose to not have the help offered because of the stigma the think they'll face from peers, wanting to feel like they have it together, and fear that the therapist could recommend they take time off work (to the boss). People seek help when it feels safe. A system where you could lose your income and reputation is a big ask for these folks who are already absorbing so much.

@Sweetlove87 2 жыл бұрын

Hope to hear more and make a video on these for educational purposes

@v1nnys 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you’re doing okay, Victoria. Thank you for what you do. 🧡

@Mgmorris98 2 жыл бұрын

things I’ve learned from true crime: don’t walk outside don’t be pregnant don’t be in your car alone don’t be a child don’t be asleep in your own house don’t get married

@ingrid9443 2 жыл бұрын

Don't you dare smile and light up a room

@sabrinamameri8309 2 жыл бұрын

@@ingrid9443 Don't be the life of the party or have a personality bigger than life itself

@ingrid9443 2 жыл бұрын

@@sabrinamameri8309 lol survival 101

@laurenwasinger9436 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t be female. Don’t have a bubbly personality.

@ilanaclaasen3384 2 жыл бұрын

Don't be part of a "normal" "happy: family

@PixelStacker 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that Lisa gets punishment for her crime but the people who abused her so viciously don't is the second most horrifying part of this story to me. absolutely

@sierrawhite8351 2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree, she definitely deserved to be punished Bc what she did was unfathomable, but that doesn’t mean that Lisa herself does not deserve Juctice for all that she went through.

@athenabucci3253 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think the death penalty was too harsh a punishment for her, especially after everything she had been through and the countless people that didn't have her back when she needed it most (even the judge who never reported the abuse!!).

@kylersaurus42 2 жыл бұрын

I concur!

@Mrs_Morgan 2 жыл бұрын

Agree.

@Kayla_Kimbrell 2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree!

@tima1520 2 жыл бұрын

The fact Bailey still speaks to us as her friends and she apologised for missing the last couple Mondays when she absolutely did not need to means so much

@akiraleigh7180 2 жыл бұрын

exactly i’ve been waiting and thinking to myself the whole time she is probably busy doing important things now that she is getting more viewers and fans ❤️😄i patiently wait

@clarissa8477 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t even notice lol.

@gothkittenlife 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I like that she talks to us like we're, friends and people rather then a lot of people who treat people like fans or who are unimportant. I love her I'm super excited for what her other channel will be.

@chrissymammabear4554 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@vahi-nageorge9528 2 жыл бұрын

I literally feel like she’s my friend

@jonathanjenniferlovett5370 Жыл бұрын

When I became pregnant with my 3rd child it was a total surprise bc i was on birth control. I jokingly told a friend that she could keep my baby. My husband (at the time) made it clear that i was joking but just a few weeks later this woman started buying baby clothes!!! We noped right out of that and moved away! I still don't know what the friend's intentions were but i wasn't gonna wait around and find out!

@shylasue4 Жыл бұрын

The fact that her baby is about to graduate high school right now is crazy. Can’t believe it’s been that long already

@heather_doestruecrime 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so disgusted hearing the things Lisa went through as a child. It’s not an excuse at all - but a lesson that this is what happens when sick, abusive, twisted people have access to children. This entire story is devastating.

@stefanieevans713 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I’m so confused on how I feel regarding this story.

@nk47100 2 жыл бұрын

And then those people who did that to her probably were treated badly as children too. It’s a cycle.

@abdazizkhairullahbinsuhaim3578 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Really such a tragedy

@maiawaive9566 2 жыл бұрын

I hate to say this but it’s sadly like what do you expect? How do you expect this woman would grow up to become? I feel so awful for her but also for Bobbie Jo because that is probably one of the worst ways to die.

@jgarcia4721 2 жыл бұрын

A tragedy on all sides, really.

@hmwalker79 2 жыл бұрын

"Bobby Jo regained consciousness after her stomach was cut open". Can you even imagine? That is completely beyond horrific.

@jennytimelord9689 2 жыл бұрын

A testament to a mother's love and strength! She fought til the very end and I think that's the takeaway. I don't want to hear about this evil woman, I want to focus on this mother who was bleeding out and still tried to go find her baby girl. That's sad and amazing!

@mariagallegos7211 2 жыл бұрын

@@minnthirteen.6534 which episodeeeeeee

@eilidhcathcart5024 2 жыл бұрын

This case is horrific. Side note; Bailey would definitely suit dimple piercings

@mfc3553 2 жыл бұрын

She fought so hard for her life and baby!.

@pharris6875 2 жыл бұрын

@@minnthirteen.6534 how horrible, I hadn't heard that.😔

@deannajunkin3696 2 жыл бұрын

I am from the same county as Lisa Montgomery and had an infant daughter when this event occurred. A friend of mine was pregnant and lived across the street from the convenience store where Lisa worked. She asked my friend about her pregnancy and my friend told her she was having a boy. Lisa replied, "Oh, I am having a girl." It is chilling to think of it now.

@jessicaellis184 Жыл бұрын

As someone who was abused in every way as a child I’ve never purposely hurt another human. I’m terrified of violence and while I dislike being around fellow humans I don’t think I could ever hurt someone🤷🏻‍♀️

@kimberlyelliott7933 Жыл бұрын

Same here EXACTLY 💯

@hayesoswald9699 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, I can’t even think abt causing someone the same pain I’ve been through

@apatheticaesthetic. Жыл бұрын

I definitely feel &; agree 1000% with your statement. The trauma I’ve gone through.. emotionally and sexually. The emotional was the worst.. I couldn’t hurt someone else unless they were hurting me.. because why make someone go through the pain that others put us through.. break the cycle.

@lindseystraley9596 2 жыл бұрын

Lisa was A victim, but she was not THE victim in this case. My heart hurts for her as a child but there is absolutely no excuse for what she did, period.

@CheshieD 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely no excuse, just an explanation. Which is sad.

@jesslopez7731 2 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely so well said. A lot of people tried to make excuses for her which I get because she did have a horrible life. But it does not excuses her for her actions and while she was a victim she was not a victim in this particular case.

@nvm5016 2 жыл бұрын

Just like the joker. Criminals are just broken souls. They encounter bad, but also do bad. You cant blame them for their past, but you can blame them for what they do because of their past.

@dagnydo2472 2 жыл бұрын

Amen! I couldn't be a defense attorney. Not one that uses a bunk defense just for a notch in their belt. I couldn't live with myself.

@eleanaofficial 2 жыл бұрын

💯 💯 💯

@sister7465 2 жыл бұрын

I love the phrase " It explains it, it doesn't excuse it." When talking about bad people. Bailey, you are awesome.

@sephrajackson3381 2 жыл бұрын

I agree I love the phrase “It explains it, it doesn’t excuse it.” I love Bailey’s Monday videos.

@lesbiangoddess290 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Like it's an explanation but certainly not an excuse

@megangabriell7583 2 жыл бұрын

Never heard this before but it is really a perfect saying for a lot of things.

@sarahbrivio4159 2 жыл бұрын

This and "you can understand the reason behind someone's actions without having to forgive them for what they did".

@sherriexsal 2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahbrivio4159 oooooo love it

@christiannaauthor 2 жыл бұрын

My mom was always so worried this was going to happen to me when I was pregnant she always kept tabs on me and tried to keep me home as much as possible. Sad we live in a world where this is a valid concern

@kansas_mom136 2 жыл бұрын

That's what my mom and neighbors did too. It's a crazy world we live in..

@mama.danni.bell17 2 жыл бұрын

Phantom pregnancy are very very real and extremely traumatic. After I had a miscarriage I went through a phantom pregnancy. I had phantom kicks, gained weight, mood swings, started producing breast milk, and even though I was going to an OB and therapy I started believing maybe I was pregnant. It was only 3 months after losing a baby at 7 weeks. Maybe baby was a twin, maybe I got pregnant again, or maybe I didn't lose baby at all. I also didn't take a pregnancy test because I didn't want the truth. Idk how to fully explain it, but once I came to the realization there was no baby, about 6 weeks later or 4.5 months after the loss of baby, it was like I lost another baby and went through another miscarriage. Positive ending, we have 3 beautiful girls. 🥰

@rosesanderson4625 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. People don't understand how traumatic and mind altering pregnancy and pregnancy loss can be.

@mama.danni.bell17 Жыл бұрын

@@rosesanderson4625 Agree, Especially the men who make the rules. 🙄 So many hormones are changing and up and down.

@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 Жыл бұрын

Lisa knew that she was lying about being pregnant and simply wanted not to be caught in her lies.

@Angel-444.69 9 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry for your loss and I’m so happy that you and your family have a happy ending to your pregnancy story!

@mama.danni.bell17 9 ай бұрын

@@Angel-444.69 thank you 🥰🫂

@SamiSmolboi 2 жыл бұрын

Being pregnant was probably the best Lisa was ever treated. That’s so sad.

@jacqueline6124 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly:(

@dawnreallagusad380 2 жыл бұрын

That is so sad😢

@liv1639 2 жыл бұрын

It's probably the only time the abuse stopped for her.

@chinonyelumnwokedi2131 2 жыл бұрын

Ya it is because I’m pregnant and not treated that great... people say the rudest things to you...

@SantanaCampbell 2 жыл бұрын

She faked her pregnancy!

@Ms.Stephanie.C 2 жыл бұрын

Monsters create monsters. It’s too bad that Lisa’s Stepfather, mother, and all of her other abusers, didn’t have to face the music for their crimes too!!

@flossiemae927 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 1000% percent! THESE are the types of people that deserve the death penalty! I have stated on many juror questionnaires that "I believe anyone who abuses a child should be put to death". Guess what? I don't get picked.

@ilicarriedoll2843 2 жыл бұрын

yes yes yes 1000% percent agree!

@lulzgibberish3772 2 жыл бұрын

@@flossiemae927 as someone who got sexually abused in my childhood, I want to thank you. I often feel like people think I speak "just out of trauma" or that I "overreact". Those people have of course no idea how it is, but they also have probably never visually imagined what's exactly going on in those situations and what the rapists/ abusers exactly do. Therefore to read this makes me tear up. Thank you so much

@kathylynch9732 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@rimjhimdhusiya699 2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why can't we put the convicts abuser to trail. Like yes the person did commit a heinous crime but that doesn't mean the monsters who made her a monster should be able to roam free . Like idk if it's too hard but if they can't give those monsters a punishment atleast put them to shame. Just because the crime wasn't reported doesn't mean that the crime didn't occur . I feel then real justice would be given

@cn_esthetique 2 жыл бұрын

Lisa’s condition may explain what she did but doesn’t excuse what she did. Many people go through horrible, horrible stuff and don’t become monsters.

@mimi56565 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like Bailey should put on screen at the beginning of her videos the definitions of "empathy" and "sympathy" for people unable to make the difference

@virginiaariaz4214 2 жыл бұрын

Her parents should have gone to prison for the horrific things they did to her. Then maybe she could have had a chance at life with therapy. The divorce judge should be ashamed of himself. If she had help before hand maybe this might have never happened......Btw happy to see you back

@misscyanic2484 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like 1/2 the town should've gone to jail for what they did to her!! Oh my, what a sick sick place

@asmrwishes 2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@buffytheinternetbullyslayer 2 жыл бұрын

@@misscyanic2484 that part! It seemed like that whole town knew what was happening and turned a blind eye. It’s really angering and sad

@VintagePillows 2 жыл бұрын

They do offer consulting.

@joydee794 2 жыл бұрын

Well said , I agree!

@aaliyahrandom 2 жыл бұрын

“But scratch the shxt out of attackers.” -Safety PSA by Bailey Sarian

@jessortega88 2 жыл бұрын

We need a billboard

@paolamendoza2868 2 жыл бұрын

The makeup and her face make it funny 😂

@paolamendoza2868 2 жыл бұрын

Very serious and important message though

@abbygaletirado2091 2 жыл бұрын

Also don’t forget to buy the mother Effer So you have DNA in the mouth to

@erinanne80 2 жыл бұрын

The more you know*

@123456789bbqkk 2 жыл бұрын

When I was pregnant I refused to be in public without my husband to protect me in fear of this exact thing happening!!! If anyone talked to me even being sweet I would be scared that they were targeting me. Very strange feeling.

@Lenzid82 2 жыл бұрын

I read this book years ago! Glad to know how the story finally ended. Anyone who can “successfully” remove a baby with a kitchen knife isn’t mentally incompetent to me. The courts made the right decision.

@nicolecinalli515 2 жыл бұрын

Morbid podcast says “you can feel for the child, not the adult” when someone has a hard upbringing! It makes me feel better because people have awful upbringings, but it doesn’t excuse their crimes.

@maebandy 2 жыл бұрын

The purpose of us being fascinated and curious about morbid things is not to get angry and assign punishment. It's to empathize, learn and course correct within our own lives.

@imcalledweasley9280 2 жыл бұрын

My old counsellor told me a few years ago “people may have a reason that explains certain behaviour, that doesn’t mean they can use it as an excuse for their behaviour”

@Himaryous 2 жыл бұрын

But being psychotic and intellectually disabled is relevant and the jury had a right to know that.

@conniebratcher9936 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@conniebratcher9936 2 жыл бұрын

@@imcalledweasley9280 that’s the best explanation!

@nancydavis7499 2 жыл бұрын

Why isn’t there punishment for the parents who abused their children? Yes even after the fact!

@bugzzz012 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about this too! Like, Lisa's mom was there when her daughter -- the child she trafficked and abused -- get the lethal injection?? She wasn't in jail????

@samofsamnation7523 2 жыл бұрын

Typically the statute of limitations for average crimes (statute of limitations being the amount of time after a crime that a person can begin a trial over) is anywhere from 1-6 years in the US, however higher offenses like child abuse have anywhere from 30 years to no limitations for opening a case/beginning a trial. Some of the states have laws specifying that the statute is unlimited if the survivor/victim filed a complaint within 1-2 years of abuse. Hope that explains it.

@CocoAvalon 2 жыл бұрын

Statute of limitations expired

@seaworthysleeper 2 жыл бұрын

@@samofsamnation7523 yess came here to say this. some states have an unlimited statute IF the child was under a certain age, too, which kind of just... blows my mind, I guess because I dont know the thought process behind that. I'd love for unlimited ones everywhere because so many people who had been abused as children could feel better, ya know.

@vanessashilling2012 2 жыл бұрын

Because there's something called statute of limitations.

@Amanda-cv7vn 2 жыл бұрын

I think bailey is so beautiful before and after makeup and I love her online personality she's totally the vibe

@NK-ox9uo 2 жыл бұрын

Bailey you’re awesome I’m 68 years old and I listen to you as often as I can. You’re a very understanding and empathetic person. Bless you sweetie.

@jesslambert628 2 жыл бұрын

The saddest part to me is that everyone in this story, could have had a happy ending. If Lisa had been removed from the home at the first sign of abuse, just like her sister, it’s likely that she would never gone on to commit such a vicious crime

@benzfadel5594 2 жыл бұрын

Instead of putting so much energy on locking up and executing people I wish the focus can be shifted to *helping* the human race so we don’t have to bury another person and imprison or execute one, for Pete’s sake when will this country help the children! Fact is you could rehabilitate Lisa to feel remorse she is permanently damaged, that remorse and empathy was supposed to be demonstrated to her when she was a beautiful innocent little girls, fact is she still is a little girl always will be she stopped growing up when her innocence was stolen, it serves no purpose to keep the system the way it is, but there is no hope in this country is there. this empathy we all can’t help but feel for Lisa WILL serve a purpose one day. It will be the drive that motivates us to PROTECT the children so we’d potentially be saving lives.

@VerosBeautyChannel 2 жыл бұрын

This would’ve been avoided if the mom didn’t drink while pregnant so Lisa wouldn’t get brain damage

@sheenayadav8714 2 жыл бұрын

@@VerosBeautyChannel obviously the mom was also messed up for drinking and allowing her child to be abused. It’s a cycle, as a society we were too late to fix the mom but the damage could be contained if Lisa was saved from such an environment

@VerosBeautyChannel 2 жыл бұрын

@@sheenayadav8714 that is true

@cindysampson8728 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Bailey! When I was pregnant waaaaaay back in 1975 we moved into a new neighbourhood. The lady across the street was also pregnant. Or so she said. As I kept getting bigger and bigger she did not. Finally it became apparent she was not pregnant. I was terrified. If she thought she was pregnant, why couldn't she think my baby was hers? Everybody pooh-poohed me. Remember - 1975. True crime was not such a popular topic, no internet, etc. The only person who thought I could be right was the VON who visited me (home nurse). Anyway, the lady had a breakdown and ended up in the psych ward where she called me every week to come and get her. We moved away shortly after and I don't know what happened to her. But as the years go by and I have heard similar stories to this one, I know I was right to be careful

@houseofschenck6230 2 жыл бұрын

If you remember her name, try doing a Google search or checking criminal records in that state.

@cindysampson4053 2 жыл бұрын

@@houseofschenck6230 Nope, don't remember her name. I must have blocked it out because I remember the names of everyone else in the neighbourhood. I'm in Canada, so it would be my province (Nova Scotia) I will check if by chance it pops into my head as happens sometimes. I do remember that she was Polish so it was not a common name. Thanks!

@yallcrazy302 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you were cautious ❤️

@zylasarhady7784 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Glad you’re safe!

@LizzyCakes 2 жыл бұрын

This story just makes me mad. The system failed Lisa so many times. So many chances to get her out of that house. Her half sister got taken away by CPS but Lisa had to stay?! Then when she does this (which I’m not condoning at all. Lisa definitely should have been locked up for life) they’re like “Oh OOPPPSSS!!! Hee hee! Sorry you fell through the cracks but you gotta go now. Kbye.”

@ambernthomas5093 Жыл бұрын

When I was pregnant with my first I had a nightmare that something like this happened. I woke up in tears sobbing my eyes out. That poor woman will never have gotten to hold her baby 🥺

@annab2059 2 жыл бұрын

i think she is definitely a victim, but i don't believe it excuses her actions. like you said, it takes a special kind of sick to do something so horrible.

@TaxidriverBarbi 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, most of abused people don't abuse also.

@jackiejeffords2932 2 жыл бұрын

@@TaxidriverBarbi I actually disagree with this. I think many abused people abuse. That's why it's so important to break the cycle. My mum's childhood was so traumatic, it's all she knew. She was an abusive mother herself, because she didnt know how not to be one. Getting people help in time is also important

@AmberGNoExcusesMinistries 2 жыл бұрын

@@jackiejeffords2932 we should pray for the abused

@Mostlikelee 2 жыл бұрын

also one more thing, you cant really say it doesn’t excuse her actions. you haven’t ever been through what shes been through you may be right but who are you to judge? who are you?

@pamelamorris3148 2 жыл бұрын

@@jackiejeffords2932 most abused people break the cycle by not being abusers themselves and Doing all they can to not become an abuser.

@ALRs89pounds 2 жыл бұрын

As awful as the crime Lisa committed is, I’m more angry at the fact that Lisa’s mum, stepfather and all the rapists never faced justice

@Jade-in9xn 2 жыл бұрын

@Nina yeah fr! They where so clearly a danger to society while Lisa with help and being closely look after couldn’t have harmed anyone :/

@the_great_eli8644 2 жыл бұрын

This is so cruel that my brain just refuses to wrap itself around that people like these exist, it almost feels like something that came from a fictional story but no. That's just so dark.

@kurochan_dat90schick 2 жыл бұрын

@Hannah Smith nah they should be put to death and not have a bed, a meal, and still breathing...

@rat8984 2 жыл бұрын

@@kurochan_dat90schick death's too easy for them. They get the worst treatment from other prisoners (rightfully so) and that's pretty much the closest to a worthy punishment they can get.

@bspeducation5438 2 жыл бұрын

Truee

@lisal440 2 жыл бұрын

This woman actually truly seems insane. Especially if there was no other evidence of her ever being violent or cruel in the past. I think it’s very possible she really just wasn’t in touch with reality at all!

@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 Жыл бұрын

Other people were nothing but things to her, not people who have feelings and lives. Not even the baby she stole. The baby was just a means to an end (of her fake pregnancy) and in her mind the ends justified the means. That is psychopathic.

@mariastallman8826 2 жыл бұрын

You’re 10000% right Bailey, you’re allowed to feel empathy for the pain she went through as a child but hate what she did as an adult.

@Aloraxl 2 жыл бұрын

When it comes to understanding the killers’ backstory, it’s about empathy, not sympathy. You can understand the circumstances and motives behind their actions but that doesn’t mean that you sympathize with them. 😌

@Thewhitequeen0 2 жыл бұрын

To add to your point, having no empathy for them frankly just perpetuates the problem that created them. Many of them were raised by people who had no empathy for them and treated them inhumanely. To simply say they are monsters unworthy of compassion or understanding ignores how they were created. They represent the ways our society continues to fail us.

@chicanabeauty274 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@janicethrasher6205 2 жыл бұрын

Well said, thank u 4 articulating

@celinaisabel5067 2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@deemorales218 2 жыл бұрын

@@Thewhitequeen0 to ignore the plight of another is to perpetuate it. There were many people involved in making this particular monster. Let’s do better as a society. Who else loves the smart people in the comments? I know I do!

@tillydee933 2 жыл бұрын

"Scratch the s*** out of the attacker" is actually fantastic advice. No a great situation to be in, but set up justice however you can....

@shannonhensley2942 2 жыл бұрын

Do you best to disfigure them as well. If you can say I scratched their arm hard enough to bleed , they they have a better chance of finding them. Especially if you can't remember what they look like, or the discriptiin is vague.

@bethtinx 2 жыл бұрын

Rip out hairs from the root when in an Uber or taxi too

@crystaldenee765 2 жыл бұрын

Also LEAVE something of YOURS at the scene, like jewelry, a piece of clothing, ANYTHING

@melissanossaman3401 2 жыл бұрын

You can definitely tell who watches Dateline and 48 hours! 🤣 I try to always keep my nails long for that very reason! If you come after me your going to be bleeding!

@juliavalentine5291 2 жыл бұрын

You should do that, and also leave a trail of your own hair, blood, and you can bite off your own finger tips. Leave as much evidence behind as you can. I pray no one is ever in that situation though.

@kimmypaz2208 2 жыл бұрын

A similar case happened here in chicago in 2019. It was so sad everyone mourned the mothers and son’s death. RIP Marlen Ochoa-Lopez and her baby 🕊

@DaDanceMom Жыл бұрын

The fact that she knew enough to watch videos of c-section and then actually do it...girl, she knew what she was doing

@PunkExMachina 2 жыл бұрын

There were so many times where Lisa’s torture could’ve stopped. Someone could’ve intervened. But in the end she was alone. all that hatred and abuse she was subjected to turned her into a monster. She’s at fault for her terrible actions but so is everyone that abused and neglected her in a way.

@sabrinabrahimi382 2 жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for her :(

@LunarEleven 2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to even define "at fault" clearly, here. We don't know what's going on in people's heads when they are that severely damaged over the course of their entire lives, the formative years in particular. Who knows how much control she had of her decision making? The prefrontal cortex isn't even fully developed until we're 25. What if due to physical and psychological trauma combined with substance abuse, all for YEARS and long before 25, that part of her brain responsible for decision making just NEVER developed adequately? I don't think premeditation proves anything though it's the best measure we really have... If she was dissociated from reality and had multiple forms of brain damage, that premeditation was done by a mind playing by rules we don't understand. She could never continue to live among other people but if she didn't want to die, I don't see any way we can determine (beyond a reasonable doubt) that she was ever capable of making a decision that warrants execution.

@oliviablackburn3907 2 жыл бұрын

It's like they killed Bobby Jo too.

@babygalstar1992 2 жыл бұрын

I agree seriously people

@jessiewilliams257 2 жыл бұрын

Lisa’s mom should be held accountable for being such an awful human.

@jessiewilliams257 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree.. the men should be held accountable as well.

@crystalc6812 2 жыл бұрын

@Either Or 100%

@natalierathbone4349 2 жыл бұрын

What she did was awful, but it was a product of her being systematically failed by everyone around her

@elleimonoyama152 2 жыл бұрын

The woman who gave birth to Lisa shouldn't be classified as a mother. Any woman who is horrible to their own offspring doesn't deserve that title. It's an insult to all women who genuinely love & care for their kids.

@mrsbee5056 2 жыл бұрын

Yes you can see the ripple effect this has years after. She should have been in court too

@toni6490 2 жыл бұрын

I laughed so hard when Bailey said, "My initials are BS..."with that silly look on her face like 'Yeah...' 😆 so cute! ☺💟

@endless3cho 2 жыл бұрын

Get that DNA however possible, ppl. Bailey is correct. I also pray 🙏 that none of you EVER run into a situation where you need to use these techniques.

@msdixie1972 2 жыл бұрын

Even worse than her mom who trafficked her was all the men who happily took the child as payment. How many people do we run into every day who would do the same??

@kiwirocky7971 2 жыл бұрын

That’s the most terrifying part of this story for me too

@Ellieg1999 2 жыл бұрын

Literally!!

@peopledisappointme18 2 жыл бұрын

It's absolutely disgusting, many men and women in powerful positions do so everyday. We just don't hear about it because it's covered up. Plenty of human trafficking survivors have talked about all the lawyers, politicians, doctors, cops and so on that they saw come in to be with different children.

@ummesaima_18 2 жыл бұрын

...I wouldn’t want to know that’s terrifying and disgusting

@punxie89 2 жыл бұрын

It's terrifying

@sophiehyde2995 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t help but wonder if she “liked” being pregnant because he wasn’t abusing her while she was pregnant. It was probably the only peace she ever got in life

@teyagould5823 2 жыл бұрын

Thats what i thought. Lisa’s story of abuse made me cry my eyes out because my own story was so similar (minus the kids)

@sophiehyde2995 2 жыл бұрын

@@teyagould5823 hearing her story was absolutely heart wrenching. Her family and the system failed her so horribly. It’s so sad that it lead to her ruining so many other lives. Her family should be held accountable for what she endured and her victim.

@caitiecatcreates 2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Whiskin87 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Is was the only time she was actually taken care of and treated nicely, rather than being abused.

@LeilaVividSounds 2 жыл бұрын

@@teyagould5823 I’m so sorry you endured anything remotely like that. I hope you have a supportive network x

@elizabethlacoss1350 2 жыл бұрын

One of Lisa’s daughters Kayla lives in the same town with me and her son goes to school with my younger brother! It’s a crazy case

@HappyBirddi Жыл бұрын

The saddest thing to me is that, if I did the math right, Victoria should be around 18 to 19 as of now, maybe 20? Victoria never got to meet her mom and Bobby Jo never got to be a mother to her.

@jamangel Жыл бұрын

Just sick

@NefariousEvildoer Жыл бұрын

I wonder how she's come to terms with what happened to her mom. I wonder what she was told as a child and at what age she found out the truth?

@laurenkhate2001 Жыл бұрын

@@NefariousEvildoer her dad started a foundation, there's an inside edition interview where he speaks. Its s heartbreaking to watch.

@kailynrisher 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not a cop but I am a first responder, yes they do offer us therapy. There are so many resources!!!! Peer support groups, firefighters support teams, we also have a chaplaincy to respond to scenes for family members!

@asmrwishes 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear

@asvir9110 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!! My husbands work also provides support and help to their families as well! Thanks for all you do! ♥️

@kailynrisher 2 жыл бұрын

@@asvir9110 ❤️

@Sophiasidae 2 жыл бұрын

that is so relieving 😭

@iEatBigTitss 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for mentioning peer support specialists :) we are rarely spoken of also thank you for the work you do

@shannonmaree4724 2 жыл бұрын

I have worked in the Police Dept for 24 years, we are offered counseling for these types of calls. They sometimes take over your entire thoughts... it's never easy. Thanks for your videos Bailey, love this channel! I was thinking of doing a makeup channel and discussing the police and emergency calls that I have handled for all these years.

@karlannharms 2 жыл бұрын

don’t think about it just do it already.

@leilahni9499 2 жыл бұрын

this would be something I would subscribe to! also, I spy another one of those middle names 😂❤️

@faithk13 2 жыл бұрын

Do it!!

@dameirramorgan2664 2 жыл бұрын

Do it !!!!!

@vanessaferroa5341 2 жыл бұрын

That sounds interesting! Let me know if you do! I would LOVE to subscribe!!

@myodetosleep 2 жыл бұрын

when bailey said “who’s middle name isn’t marie” i felt personally attacked

@babyphatpenut 2 жыл бұрын

This tho 🤣🤣🤣

@Dizzyray822 Жыл бұрын

Me too!! 🤣🤣🤣

@alexwiley1996 9 ай бұрын

My middle name is Catherine lol 😂

@PyroWolfofEarth 9 ай бұрын

My sister's middle name is Marie, which I laughed at, but mine is Celestia.

@elkegerlach7060 7 ай бұрын

Really you need to chill...listen to what's happening out there in the world!!!! Don't sweat the small stuff. Don't be so insecure, oh boy!

@tylerrochelleart5707 Жыл бұрын

I am a Mr Ballen fan and saw a pic of you guys, had to know who you were. This is the first rando video I was blessed to click on, and as a small business owner, the relatabilitity of “my bad I missed the last 3 mondays, im a one man show” was SO appreciated 🤣😂💪🏽💜 The collaboration of your story telling and makeup skills kindles the fire in my soul to keep going on my path. Thank you. Best of luck to you in your endeavors, may you stay encouraged!!

@jessiestewart1991 2 жыл бұрын

I need a shirt that says “ if I go missing call Bailey Sarian”

@ViksonMonroe 2 жыл бұрын

Right?! 😂

@jamiemarchant8617 2 жыл бұрын

Yessss

@amberwarren5724 2 жыл бұрын

I looooovvvveeee this lol

@butterfly49712 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Lol

@MsMagicconchshell 2 жыл бұрын

I can make it

@ashleybryan956 2 жыл бұрын

you’re the reason I got into Criminology and now i’m about to graduate and I’m just so grateful for your videos. Thank you, Bailey!!

@serenatsukino5252 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's amazing! Congratulations!

@serryjeinfeld4864 2 жыл бұрын

Kudos to you. I could never get into crime. You’re literally fighting real life monsters😭😭😭

@onigireee 2 жыл бұрын

That sounds so great! All the best to you! 😊

@ayahnur27 2 жыл бұрын

Well done!! I hope you go on to have a successful career 🥳

@rachel1598 2 жыл бұрын

Job security for real. Congrats on the upcoming graduation!

@AWalleye 2 жыл бұрын

I was 6 months pregnant when you came out with this video.... I avoided watching this one until now just in case it would freak me out! I'm so glad I did! This story would've freaked me out!

@angorem6498 2 жыл бұрын

When you don’t condemn monsters for their abuse and evil they create evil in their victims. I can only imagine how hard it would be to understand morality when you are raised in such an abusive, twisted environment

@invisiblue3212 2 жыл бұрын

Never apologize for having empathy, Bailey. There is a seriously appalling lack of it currently. 💖💝

@trailsofsunshine4347 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@TheAdrift 2 жыл бұрын

There is also another argument I’ve seen about why we should humanize bad people: if you go around thinking that bad people are monsters rather than humans, then you don’t believe that you or any of your friends/family/acquaintances etc. can be “monsters” or do the sort of bad things that “monsters” do. So like, anyone who thought like that could’ve seen Lisa Montgomery and been like “no way, I know Lisa, she’s not a MONSTER, she would never do something like that” and people inadvertently DO wind up excusing bad behavior because they don’t believe their friend is a monster. I guess Bailey gets a lot of hate for trying to explain where these horrible people come from, but honestly, I think she has the right idea. These people don’t just come out of the ground, or fall from the sky-they’re PEOPLE, who came to be people in the standard way. By othering people like this, we close off the ability to maybe solve future problems of why people are like this, after we make more advancements in neuroscience, psychology etc. and can really start nipping these things in the bud.

@annamassey396 2 жыл бұрын

I wish you would do one on the storie about Hailey Cummings. The Five year old girl from Satsuma Florida. I lived there at the time and my youngest daughter was in her Kindergarten class. It ripped my heart out to be honest. I knew this child. I helped look for her. And to this day, I still think about Hailey. Wondering what really happened.

@theghostofyou1316 2 жыл бұрын

it’s so weird to hear her mention the names of those places that i’ve been around all my life & my grandparents were around all their lives & my dad & his brothers too. i was just a baby when this happened. it’s just weird to be able to know the places she’s talking about on a personal level 💀💀

@lindseybanana 2 жыл бұрын

You should do the Andrea Yates story. She drowned all of her kids in the bathtub and tucked them into their beds. It was a huge story in Texas when I was growing up and I would love to hear your perspective on the whole thing.

@rimjhimdhusiya699 2 жыл бұрын

* gasp * La Llorona

@jillk9112 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking of. That happened about 20 minutes away from my childhood home. There are so many similarities, although I don't know if Andrea's catatonic schizophrenia was caused by trauma in her life or if it was something she inherited.

@Laurencita 2 жыл бұрын

@@jillk9112 wasn’t she pressured to have all of those babies by her husband? Like I thought he was ultra-religious and controlling. Maybe that’s what pushed her over the edge. I know that pregnancy has a huge effect on the brain. You can develop post-partum psychosis.

@khops9045 2 жыл бұрын

Bailey- if you do this story- please give a warning that kids are killed - cause that is one thing I can’t listen too! Even though I love you: I’m a regular. I just can’t handle that kind of story.

@sandrawilliams8883 2 жыл бұрын

@@Laurencita i believe in a documentary I heard that he wasn’t supportive either and moved them from a nice house to a small trailer. I watched him in his interview it was so scary how non chalant he was everything though

@aliciawills4924 2 жыл бұрын

Certified EMT here and I can confirm that we are indeed offered counseling after traumatic incidents as well as any time we feel it's needed. Can't do the job without it.

@renn8827 2 жыл бұрын

I almost skipped this at the beginning because I recognized the case but I’m happy I didn’t skip it because it seemed like it showed a lot more from the killers view than others that just kind of glossed over some details of her fake pregnancies her ex trying to take her kids and that she was abused as a child vs this one that actually went into the detail of her abuse and traumatic life

@savannahralston8877 2 жыл бұрын

When I was pregnant, I constantly feared this happening to me just because of this case alone. I would find myself wearing many baggy clothes so people would not be attracted to my stomach, especially toward my third trimester. She wasn't mentally there, but dear lord, this is always the worst-case anyone could ever read

@thebabblingbudgeter8936 Жыл бұрын

Me too.. I always made my grandfather, husband, friends, etc go with me places because I was so scared of going out alone while pregnant.

@Laurenjoinsyoutube 2 жыл бұрын

I’m always surprised that parents traffic their kids but also that there are so many willing adults wanting to abuse and buy kids

@erinmarie27 2 жыл бұрын

So many twisted people out there 😭😣

@AcaciaBieberLove 2 жыл бұрын

literally.. like how do you even find that out? that people are doing that, or your friend is doing that family is doing that? how do you tell someone hey you can do whatever you want w my child if you do this for me? if that were me i’d be like calling the cops asap, how did no one ever find out?!?! it’s insane

@smurfylee 2 жыл бұрын

I watched a doco yesterday about child trafficking and it was the most disturbing disgusting video on it I have EVER seen!! It's called the eyes of the devil by a polish journo interviewing a mother that wants to sell her unborn baby and a man who buys kids and goes into detail about the process, how they get them, who buys them and what they do with the children...it is absolutely horrific..

@virgie4715 2 жыл бұрын

@@AcaciaBieberLove because people who are sick like that or weak and easy to manipulate and use like that they’ll gravitate toward each other. Chances are these types of people are the type of people they’ve always been around and known. It’s usually part of a vicious cycle that started before them.

@MENDOZA1ful 2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking. How did everyone agree? There was not one single person that contact the authorities to report the abuse. They just went with it. It’s so disgusting. It just goes to show how many sick people are out there!

@bitterswt845 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that there are that many sick men that would pay to sleep with an 11 year old ...sick 🤢🤮

@chaldeokpai 2 жыл бұрын

Its a sick world we live in

@crystalc6812 2 жыл бұрын

and parents that would rent the daughter out..sick, disturbing and awful!!

@chelseaw2086 2 жыл бұрын

The same thing happened to my half-sister when she was 12. The fact that anyone could do that to their kid is disgusting.

@carbine090909 2 жыл бұрын

@TheLovelyRose sadly, this isn't a recent trend.

@jennSalvate 2 жыл бұрын

There are men out there that pay to sleep with kids even younger than 11 years old...😳😥🤬

@chelseebarber3903 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve watched this video a few times, but this is the first time I’m thinking - though she most likely wasn’t in pain due to extreme adrenaline, when she had regained consciousness I bet she had realized her baby had been cut out of her body and she knew exactly what was going on. And she truly couldn’t do anything about it. Imagine that.

@krissteen 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bailey for discussing Lisa’s past. Understanding her past is not to validate what she did but to realize that she is human....this is just such a sad story....

@katriinanevanpera8673 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine that kid hearing how she was born, must be awful 😩

@ambrianaamarieee 2 жыл бұрын

i was thinking the same thing🥺 didn’t even get to meet or have her real mom cause bc of something horrible like that it’s sickening

@dagnydo2472 2 жыл бұрын

TRUE!

@louisegross3886 2 жыл бұрын

Sad

@604events 2 жыл бұрын

Baily and Arnold Faks are my 2 favorite true crime channels

@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 2 жыл бұрын

i think the lisa's childhood was way more awful

@ashleytyraisaacs 2 жыл бұрын

I like hearing the back stories because it’s where you realize how much the state, judges, and police also failed. Like yes, the criminal did something awful but there’s always hundreds of ways that authority figures also did awful things. These true crime are the outliers but imagine how many other people are going through something similar

@caitlinlawrence1867 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! All these stories usually start with childhood abuse and it is really sad. Doesn't make it right, but things could have been different if just one person had done the right thing you know?

@Tiffrs92 2 жыл бұрын

💯

@necromantic318 2 жыл бұрын

Typically counseling is in fact offered but it depends on a lot of things: the region, the crime scene context and severity, and funding in the department. So sadly it’s not always as available as it should be.

@laurenrose8183 Жыл бұрын

we just learnt about this in my ethics class like 2 weeks ago, so when i saw this i knew i NEEDED to hear baileys take on this

@Thalia_Rueli 2 жыл бұрын

Bailey telling us to get our attackers DNA under our nails gave me chills. like the sincerity in her voice and the care and passion she has on top of imagining it got me in my feels and feeling chilly mane

@cristinadecisneros3987 2 жыл бұрын

basically just do any kind of damage to them as you can.....

@nini.paninii 2 жыл бұрын

RIGHTTTT

@robinkohl9827 2 жыл бұрын

So true! Spread the word!

@sandrabaulch 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Practical but totally chilling.

@ireneangelucci3733 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@achohelelwhy 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly dude, you're doing the work of like 4 people- research, writing, filming, and editing-- you take your time. We got you, boo. 🥰

@jasin1462 2 жыл бұрын

🎯

@brittanydonohoo2492 2 жыл бұрын

Does she still have an employee? I wanna say...Christine? Lindsay? I hope so ! She deserves all the help she can get

@mariahreynolds3003 2 жыл бұрын

This happened like 20 miles from where I grew up and my best friend's mom was friends with Bobbie Jo's dad. You should do a video over the Skidmore town bully. There's a movie based on it called "In Broad Daylight"

@vonb4050 2 жыл бұрын

Love these videos, especially because of the deep dives into the perpetrators background. My middle name is also Marie so more evidence towards the Marie middle name trend.

@ArigeS 2 жыл бұрын

so u mean to tell me that after ALL OF THIS...lisa's mom and stepdad get to walk FREE?? Literal monsters continue to live their everyday lives??? tf??

@LostStarzOfTheSky 2 жыл бұрын

Lets not forget her first husband

@sailoranders4022 2 жыл бұрын

Her mom and stepdad are long dead

@samorachannel2093 2 жыл бұрын

An Lisa's serving all of their sentences smh

@bspeducation5438 2 жыл бұрын

It's unjust

@sapphicsolace3605 2 жыл бұрын

More common than one would think. The man who assaulted me still walks free even, and I cant do a thing

@rondamatney9633 2 жыл бұрын

I can have compassion for the little girl Lisa used to be, but I do NOT have compassion for the actions of the adult.

@zionl7283 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. She did not deserve to go through such a tragic childhood, but it is also our responsibility as adults to heal our traumas.

@butterflyfam2522 2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@chandlerbond6308 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@evy4366 2 жыл бұрын

I think that was exactly bailey's point too. She feels bad for the little girl Lisa who bad to enure such childhood. However, she cannot and will not condone her actions as an adult.

@noodlesauce2553 2 жыл бұрын

Well said! You can have compassion for someone, but that doesn't excuse their adult choices

@brittanyparker-vaughan2881 2 жыл бұрын

I would imagine that the amount of blood at this crime scene was significantly worse because when a person is pregnant, their body produces more to keep the baby healthy. What a horrible thing to have happen and to witness…

@ThroughItAll54 2 жыл бұрын

“Naturally you want to see Lisa as the victim.” No lol. Absolutely not. I think it’s awful she went through what she did. And she may have brain damage, but she KNEW what she was doing. She contacted this woman KNOWING she was pregnant. It was premeditated. As someone else said, she was not THE victim in this case. Bobby Jo, Zeb, and Victoria Jo (baby) were. I will not say she didn’t deserve the death penalty. She did. And so did her abusers 🤷🏼‍♀️ sick people abuse children.

@tammyw1873 2 жыл бұрын

Bailey, this story hits home something fierce. In 2009 my cousin Heather Snively was killed for her unborn son. She was also 8 months pregnant. Thank you for covering this story. Just FYI if you are pregnant and find like free clothes, please take someone with you, DON'T go alone.

@daisymae6 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope her son is okay and that the people who did that to her got what they deserved.

@tammyw1873 2 жыл бұрын

@@daisymae6 Thank you, unfortunately no we lost him as well. She got time, but most of us feel that she deserved more.

@TX2girl2 2 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing about this happening to Heather. Such an absolute sad and terrible thing. I live in West Virginia which is why I heard about it. Continued prayers for you and your family.

@ivychapman7601 2 жыл бұрын

my cousin, Michelle Wilkins had the same thing happen to her in 2015. thankfully she’s still alive today. i’m so sorry about your cousin, i don’t understand how someone could do that.

@tammyw1873 2 жыл бұрын

@@ivychapman7601 I am sorry to hear that your family had to go through this as well. No one should have to go through this. I am happy to hear that your cousin made it. Thank you. Prayers for your family.

@lorettataylor5006 2 жыл бұрын

For those leaving Bailey nasty comments, please leave. She has a life outside of all this and deserves respect not nastiness. Sure, we miss her when she's away but c'mon people give the girl a break!

@isren 2 жыл бұрын

We all missed her, it’s ok to be disappointed there isn’t an update on a video. It’s NOT ok to demand content from a creator. Some of her Instagram comments infuriated me with people demanding videos and rudeness.

@Katelyst 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed fully. Plus, she talks about true crime which can weigh on someone mentally and life can just happen sometimes. I'm glad when she uploads, but I'm not gonna go after her if she skips a Monday or three. If she needs a break, she needs a break. Period.

@kathleenregan4756 2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you!

@tentinybees 2 жыл бұрын

WHO IS BEING MEAN TO HER 👿

@mamabear676 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I miss seeing her videos but I also know she has a life and I don't expect her to constantly be glued to KZfaq. It's nice to see her back but don't be rude because she takes a break. And it wasn't a break she was working. Some people just like to be rude.

@benjisebastian84 2 жыл бұрын

It makes such sense she became hooked on pregnancy and what it did for her. Imagine horrific abuse you’re entire life and then all the sudden people are approaching you with congratulations, and handling you gentility and other women are relating to you. It’s probably the first and only time she felt relatable to other women and essentially normal and ultimately “safe”. But as Bailey said, this does not make anything she did okay or understandable.

@tatertot9118 2 жыл бұрын

Also, coming from a police family and my boyfriend is an officer, yes they do provide therapy for officers if they need It after going to some of these crazy calls. Just wanted to throw It out there lol love your videos

@jessicahernandez4836 2 жыл бұрын

As a social worker I can’t help but be angry at her sister being removed by social services but not her. Where I work we say, if one kid isn’t safe-they’re all not safe. If Lisa would have been removed with her sister all of this could have been avoided. ✨deep breath✨

@SeanGilbertson Жыл бұрын

Yeah I hated that too. And I’m sure the other sister felt/feels guilty. These situations can be so maddening. It’s so hard to see a kid in an awful situation and not be able to do anything because they don’t have visible bruises, etc.

@charruz Жыл бұрын

Yup

@Rinnymoon Жыл бұрын

This happened to my husband & his siblings when they were younger. Only 2/3 were taken from the home. It baffles me that they wouldn't take all.

@ditacortez 6 ай бұрын

😢

@alexaynguyen 2 жыл бұрын

Bailey: “but you know, it’s still...” Me: “suspish!” Bailey: “questionable.” Me: 😐

@DarkLight6Tv 2 жыл бұрын

This the one! 🤣🤣🤣💀

@whitneylewis4998 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@juliajohnsson317 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣👌🏼

@jchambers0710 2 жыл бұрын

🤣💀 that was me too! Since when is anything questionable and NOT suspish!??

@kaylamar1288 2 жыл бұрын

💀😂 Same.

@HelenaVanCity 2 жыл бұрын

I know this case, but in the couple documentaries covering it, they hardly mentioned what a horrible, unthinkable 'childhood' Lisa had. Like, "She was a monster. Boom. Period. Case closed." In fact, everyone failed her: her so-called mother, father, step father, child protective services.... It is a case where I feel compelled to sympathize with the perpetrator, to a certain degree. This case shows how evil lives on in generations, like a hereditary disease, like cancer. Honestly, so many people are just not parent material. They should never have children, or if they do, give them up for adoption.

@FlameEnchantress 2 жыл бұрын

Here because I’m digging for episodes I haven’t seen

@avachriss681 2 жыл бұрын

you’re living my dream

@Brianalikespie 2 жыл бұрын

I'm an EMT, after bad calls we are required to talk to someone trained in debriefing and we have multiple staff trained and on call to talk to at all times

@erikatelles610 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear it! I hope all responders and all people that have the guts to deal with what society can't handle (confronting death) are given access to some kind of therapy.

@JessiekaIsANerd 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, my state doesn't require experts for debriefings. At my station, we typically talk to our partner or, if it was really bad, our boss. I really wish we had professionals, because sometimes it's nice to just have an outsider to talk to

@michellejasso3930 2 жыл бұрын

I never once was offered debriefing. Im a South TX paramedic.

@oliviablackburn3907 2 жыл бұрын

I feel for you guys. People forget that you guys have to deal with scary stuff first. I know a firefighter who's team got to the house fire too late and they didn't know that. He pulled out a family. They were all dead😭 he had to have therapy for years.

@sashalainejordan5756 2 жыл бұрын

Did the baby go back with the original dad

@jinettebright2741 2 жыл бұрын

My dad just retired from the police department after 31 years of service and they do offer therapy for the police officer and their entire family for free. We all got therapy to help cope with whatever we were dealing with including with what my dad did for a living(we had to deal with it too because he come home from work) Which was fatal accident so he saw a lot of gross scenes and bodies daily. So his department did take them and their families. Super grateful for that

@christinefink7760 2 жыл бұрын

They offer for certain military personnel too

@elizabethgwenrogers76 2 жыл бұрын

So glad I found you Bailey I soooo look forward to your shows. Honestly I DO NOT usually follow/subscribe to anyone but I wouldn’t miss you for nothing or no one. Your a one woman wonder, GREAT JOB! Thanks so much I love you!

@reaganalice6207 2 жыл бұрын

As awful and sad as this is, I'm happy that Victoria (the baby) survived, and I just hope that she grows up okay after this.

@StephanieMRM 2 жыл бұрын

the fact that she watched videos on how to do a C-section... she not only planned, she prepared

@Sunshineonmymind714 2 жыл бұрын

This. I don’t care how mentally incompetent someone claims to be, if someone can research how to do something heinous, then they are perfectly competent to stand trial and be sentenced accordingly.

@amandageyer795 2 жыл бұрын

Not only that she even preplanned the route the day before so she was READY to 💩 things up

@catspjs6229 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! 0 empathy

@86crud 2 жыл бұрын

That’s not in dispute.

@merdy111 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, if she was smart enough to research, learn & plan out how to do a c-section, herself ....she was mentally capable enough to know what a disgusting & horrific crime she was committing!!! Unfortunately she got, exactly what she deserved....

@Niknik2006 2 жыл бұрын

I like that you give the “bad guys background”. It humanizes them and it does explain a lot. Like most of them didn’t just wake up one day and decide to do bad things and be a bad person.

@loriwagner7900 2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Im always wanting to know the why like to get inside their head ya know

@KnottyPitMomma 2 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly! I watch allot of prison stuff crime stuff but the ones that get to the why and the how could you? Like how does your brain work!?

@urspookyate 2 жыл бұрын

that's true - it helps us understand them better. while whatever their background is and what they've been through doesn't excuse their actions, at least u can kind of ... know why they did what they did ?

@susanhuffstutler9576 2 жыл бұрын

The head injuries seem to be pretty consistent with these killers.

@haileyquinnmodel 2 жыл бұрын

I think its the ones who just woke up one day and choose crazy are the ones who scare me the most tbh. Because there is no reasoning or cause if that makes sense.

@Lisa4910 Жыл бұрын

I would die to protect my kids and can't fathom that she did that to her daughter.

@IMRONALDMCDONALD 2 жыл бұрын

I live in St.Louis and I’ve heard this about 5 time, it makes me uncomfortable and scared at the same time. I’m sending this to my friend so he can know about it 🙃

@kalishajnz 2 жыл бұрын

I always find interesting when you realize the moment that people like this could’ve had a totally different life. Like with Lisa the moment was when the sister was removed and she wasn’t, like had she been removed as well her life could’ve been totally different. It’s the moment that possibly determined her path in life.

@amandariley8 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! And how that decision affected so many other people's lives too!

@Vicky-bn7jt 2 жыл бұрын

I love how the social think leaving one child behind is acceptable but the others to be taken away... did they think because she was 3 all of a sudden the beatings and abuse would stop?! Her life could’ve been so different. I mean... There’s so many people to blame for this woman’s awful life. However, I do not condone anything she did but she absolutely needed help and support and wasn’t given any. 😔

@kalishajnz 2 жыл бұрын

@@Vicky-bn7jt Totally agree.

@kalishajnz 2 жыл бұрын

@@amandariley8 Right, it's mind boggling.

@elliejohnson7029 2 жыл бұрын

yeah exactly, the butterfly effect is wild

@nani8907 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's about time we got a new makeup brand called "Suspish"

@vanessaaguilar3742 2 жыл бұрын

I kind of like “BS cosmetics” 😂.

@rrp1996 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@dreamcatcher75418 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that her nail polish line?

@LarissaFay 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with two comments here... 'Suspish by BS Cosmetics'. I love this idea SO much. 🖤

@WaiiitWhhhat 2 жыл бұрын

And all the products are named after Bailey phrases and her topics. That’s genius somebody tell Bailey to do this!!!!

@andrewwalsh4719 Жыл бұрын

I have been loving her makeup

@Hippieskippie 2 жыл бұрын

Bailey is truly everything ❤️

@milo_the_queer8037 2 жыл бұрын

side note: Bailey tells true crime stories like your gossiping hair dresser from jersey

@laurend7816 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who's mostly had hairdressers from New Jersey, I can confirm this.

@TheBellvue94 2 жыл бұрын

This is why she's my favorite some of the others sound so monotone. I understand for the seriousness of the stories but this is why I look for Bailey every Monday. N

@mollyfoxxx 2 жыл бұрын

I’m from Connecticut born and raised (I live in LA now) but YES. She gives me ~tri-state gossip with your hairdresser~ vibes all the time as she spills all the tea about murderers.

@laurend7816 2 жыл бұрын

@@mollyfoxxx I've lived in Jersey my whole life and the gossiping is my favorite part of getting my hair done. Which reminds me, I need to text my stylist.

@stacywhaley9957 2 жыл бұрын

Nailed It!!!