Making custom suspension arms for a classic Lotus chassis | timelapse restoration

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Soup Classic Motoring

Soup Classic Motoring

Жыл бұрын

Maybe stainless steel isn't a suitable metal for suspension arms on a classic Lotus Esprit, who knows, but I'm going to find out.
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@saltpeter500
@saltpeter500 Жыл бұрын
Now that's an Irish jig 😉
@user-qn6yt3zx3w
@user-qn6yt3zx3w Жыл бұрын
My wife is as interested in cars as I am in different brands of nail polish. But I showed her these videos and she was amazed.
@dan725
@dan725 Жыл бұрын
This Lotus will be unrivaled. It’ll be better than any other Esprit in the world. All the incredible fab work with the chassis pretty much IMPROVED upon the original in every single way. This is awesome.
@Nigel999
@Nigel999 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful content, excellent music and fantastic editing and commentary. My new favourite channel alongside M539 Restorations. Binged on all previous episodes and sit patiently waiting for the latest update. Hi from New Zealand.
@adogmcdizzle
@adogmcdizzle Жыл бұрын
Also my two favourites 😊
@bobfrankish8883
@bobfrankish8883 Жыл бұрын
Yes, mine too! Amazing work and attention yo detail.
@dan725
@dan725 Жыл бұрын
YES when I discovered this channel a few years back, I HAD to binge it all. I still occasionally go back to view the epic Range Rover episode!
@Nigel999
@Nigel999 Жыл бұрын
@@dan725 funny you should say that, I was just thinking that I might re-watch that episode too - 1 and half hours of delightful relaxation.😊
@marcusott2973
@marcusott2973 Жыл бұрын
If you like the two, watch Jethro Bronner repair 105 series Alfa Romeos. I think you'll like it, he doesn't put out that much, that's why the algorithm tends to ignore his stuff, but it's excellent.
@martinhogan5970
@martinhogan5970 Жыл бұрын
DUDE. I could have watched you do this all afternoon…. Very smooth. Excited for the reconstruction!
@TofuAutoWorks
@TofuAutoWorks Жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite build series on KZfaq right now, including my own.
@nikcodling
@nikcodling Жыл бұрын
Soup AND a new Ronald Finger video both in one evening, that’s living!
@stuartd9741
@stuartd9741 Жыл бұрын
I was impressed with Ronald's restoration of the Fiero & the GPZ. considering he isn't an automotive channel.. ... Quite an inventive problem solver like George .
@noobFab
@noobFab Жыл бұрын
Love the old rotary telephone reference at 8:04. Class in a glass, as always. Thank you sir!
@georgiosxirouchakis439
@georgiosxirouchakis439 2 ай бұрын
Excellent work George ,I watched your videos many many Years back..I hope you finish your project to see how it goes before I leave this world. Cheers mate.
@conrodcarclub8518
@conrodcarclub8518 Жыл бұрын
Good work George 👍
@wesleycardinal8869
@wesleycardinal8869 Жыл бұрын
This is just a thankyou for the video production work, which is engaging and very high quality. Even filming a computer screen without the flicker is a trick👍🇦🇺
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
🍻
@steverichards1025
@steverichards1025 Жыл бұрын
Best auto film maker on YT, in fact getting better...
@Marie579
@Marie579 Жыл бұрын
Oooohhh sooo there! That's telling us 😂😂😂 we only have your best interests at heart as your such a lovable guy! 😂
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
😊
@jn8092
@jn8092 Жыл бұрын
Jeez George! That’s taking the channel to a whole new level. I can only be impressed by your levels of dedication to the cause and willingness to learn new skills and not give up. A great inspiration for sure and quality YT content. Thanks
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
🍻
@arealsourapple
@arealsourapple Жыл бұрын
This shit simply frickin rocks 11 ways to Sunday
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen Жыл бұрын
According to Al from The Skid Factory (aka Turbo Yoda) purge welding stainless is absolutely essential when you're doing food grade stuff, but a waste of time for automotive applications. He does do it from time to time purely for aesthetics. That being said.... this is THE Lotus build on the internet and doing everything 10% better than "by the book" is satisfying to watch, so I'm of the conviction that there's no kill like overkill and if it's worth doing it's worth overdoing! This car is going to be your pride and joy much more than any of your more utilitarian project cars. This is the special one. The "second missus" if there was a first one. This is the car that, when done, will have challenged you to go from "a practical mechanic" to "a car restauration master". Can't wait to follow the process. Hope to see you soon.
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
I was shown around some non purged food grade stuff by the guys at Delvo, I couldn’t believe the finish. Another commenter said they’d run a suite of analysis and tests and found that purged gained no more than 15% strength over no purged. It’s all very intriguing. I’m still looking for FEA help, but like you mean, I’d rather have the 15% than not ;)
@TheLRider
@TheLRider 10 ай бұрын
​@@soupclassicmotoringAbsolutely impressed with your skills development.. Teach yourself FEA and you'll get an honorary degree from your local college. Rusty mild steel was still strong enough so shiny brand new stainless will be more than adequate. Original trailing arms would have been put through strenuous rig testing and track testing on finished vehicles way more strenuous than you'll ever put it through. All power to your elbow ignore the nay sayers.
@BenHur872
@BenHur872 Жыл бұрын
Great music in this episode!
@garethbird4259
@garethbird4259 Жыл бұрын
That car never had parts that accurately made when it was new!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Dunno, I’m appreciating the efficiency of design the more I work on it
@viking7256
@viking7256 Жыл бұрын
Stainless is prone to fatigue / stress cracking. So you will have to keep a close eye on it. Also, you will need to get the stainless welds de-hydrogen embrittled. This will help with the cracking. Talk to your local hot rod club as when we do this for suspension control arms, etc, we have to do this. Awsome videos and keep up the good work. NB. 304 stainless is for structural use. 316 more for architectural use.
@bobolulu7615
@bobolulu7615 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The only good thing about using stainless steel for this purpose is that it sounds good to say it. Otherwise it's not a good idea.
@ALINUED
@ALINUED Жыл бұрын
@@bobolulu7615 so its better to not use stainless in order to want something more stronger right?
@bobolulu7615
@bobolulu7615 Жыл бұрын
@@ALINUED Stainless Steel is not the "be all to end all" of metals. It has its place and automotive suspension systems is not that place. If you noticed, the original part is made of mild steel and is perfectly fine and has driven a few million miles on the vehicles without issue. When you talk about 'strength' , what is the strength that is needed? When it's in use on the vehicle, it does not twist, so torsional strength is not required. What forces are acting on it? Compression and tension. Over the length of the part, even these will have very few issues, there will be almost zero deformation of the part in compression or tension. Mild steel is very forgiving in this situation and the small deformations will be easily absorbed. Stainless Steel on the other hand does not like being changed and will be fatigued from this. If you want to strengthen the part, the only one I have ever seen or heard of fail, is the chassis mounting bolt at the front of the strut. It's about 5/8" necked down to about 3/8". There have been failures at that point. The original suspension link is more than adequate for its purpose here and the perceived idea that it will be stronger and make the vehicle handle better or whatever, is nonsense. Not one automotive manufacturer on the planet uses stainless steel for suspension components because it simply is not a suitable material for it.
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
@V iking: Your statement: "316 more for architectural use" is at the very least questionable. Without getting into detailed specifics, mild steel has a yield strength of 240-250MPa. Grade 316 Stainless Steel has a similar yield strength (circa 250MPa), so it would be my choice if I was replacing the trailing arms in question without any accompanying engineering analysis. Grade 316 L (low carbon type that is commonly used for the construction of boilers/pressure vessels that contain high temperature 'acidic contents') has an improved fatigue strength at a modest expense to its yield strength - so is also a good option - but more expensive than 316. Grade 304 Stainless Steel has a yield strength of circa 205MPa - so if used to create an exact dimensional copy of the mild steel version, the trailing arm would be "weaker" and less durable due to its reduced fatigue strength when compared to mild steel. However, if the appropriate 'engineering analysis' is conducted - then SS 304 could be adopted by using a modest increase in material thickness or a change to the trailing arm's shape or construction. Needless to say, an engineering analysis (i.e. load analysis and mathematical modelling, using Finite Element models) would be expensive to perform and would be overkill for 'this Lotus project'.
@ShaunHensley
@ShaunHensley Жыл бұрын
@@ALINUED stainless is brittle, mild steel is flexible
@xxerggher2667
@xxerggher2667 Жыл бұрын
Wow, unbelievable fabrication!
@bandidol200
@bandidol200 Жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful piece of engineering you've created. If I had a cap, I would doff it to you sir. 😎
@AntBangBang
@AntBangBang Жыл бұрын
Love the care you’re taking over this. It’s a pleasure to watch.
@schrodingerscat8621
@schrodingerscat8621 Жыл бұрын
Interesting solutions to a part that needs to be pretty much perfect!
@JJ-pf7qo
@JJ-pf7qo Жыл бұрын
damn.. welp this will be long journey to finish this Lotus lol. More contents to watch in future.
@AlteredCarbons
@AlteredCarbons Жыл бұрын
i swear to god, these videos are to short hah. i could watch this for HOURS dude... i mean, i never get so excited to see a video pop into my feed like a soup classic. its just so entreating to see what you are going to tackle next and what your solution to that issue is. that jig is amazing btw
@MrT_RainMan
@MrT_RainMan Жыл бұрын
Have to say thank you for the wonderful wonderful videos. Right now drink my loose leaf tea with a smile on your progress. Your videos are a great way to start my day and brings a smile to my face. Thank your sharing and great work
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
That’s proper tea! Thanks
@morgananderson9647
@morgananderson9647 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Your craftsmanship and ability to come up with solutions to insure components meet exacting tolerances is so impressive! Making the suspension arms out of SS is inspired, you'll never have to worry about them rusting out! I like it! I feel like such an idiot attempting to locate a simple 8' x 5/8' replacement axle for my f'ing wheelbarrow, (they want $25 for one with shipping...) especially after getting to witness your skills on YT. Since I've discovered your channel, I've gone back and viewed your past videos, (Along with hitting the like...) because it's such a great, (& humbling) education. Thank you so much for the outstanding content. You're creativity is superb! It's as fun as those Blokes from Shropshire building that toy, 4x4 Mini rally car! All the best, Mo-
@Vinttro
@Vinttro Жыл бұрын
Incredible engineering and the media is top quality. Great work 🙌🏼
@aaronjudt1487
@aaronjudt1487 Жыл бұрын
George my friend, that was absolutely fantastic to watch! who'd have thought that building a jig like that would be so engrossing to watch. Can't wait to see them in the car ;) Cheers pal
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
…and all made possible by welding 😉❤️ thanks dude
@rivenmotors7981
@rivenmotors7981 Жыл бұрын
The jig is up! With all the chatter about pros and cons of material use perhaps it would be prudent to "knock out" some arms in regular mild steel as you've already got your mind wrapped around the approach at this stage. Lovin' it brother!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Yeah I might well end up going back to standard, we’ll find some answers eventually
@mickthemonkey
@mickthemonkey Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't cost much to galvanise them.
@herme99
@herme99 Жыл бұрын
Great bit of fabrication
@mceajc
@mceajc Жыл бұрын
All the jigs you've done for this project - superb thinking ahead.
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 Жыл бұрын
As someone who got an A in Metalwork at school I'm very impressed!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
😆
@johnpartridge7623
@johnpartridge7623 5 ай бұрын
Great job George.
@justinkerr3033
@justinkerr3033 Жыл бұрын
Make your own Lotus radius arms in the shed??? blown away mate! Another awesome video, thanks! 👍
@adogmcdizzle
@adogmcdizzle Жыл бұрын
Probably no different to the originals 😆
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Woah woah, easy there horse! 😅
@andrewgrace4410
@andrewgrace4410 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work 😊
@grahamrobson9292
@grahamrobson9292 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous work.. my favourite car
@MrMontychops
@MrMontychops Жыл бұрын
A fab bit of fab fab. Fab 👍
@btimec5290
@btimec5290 Жыл бұрын
Rotary phone dialing :)
@Penultimate_P
@Penultimate_P Жыл бұрын
That sync with the music @9:47 *chef's kiss!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
🤣
@JoaoPereira-xy9qx
@JoaoPereira-xy9qx Жыл бұрын
I really, really, really love your videos. Congrats from the north of Portugal.
@jeremiahjohnson3018
@jeremiahjohnson3018 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work!
@PWL104
@PWL104 Жыл бұрын
Mesmerising!
@jonathanohagan1349
@jonathanohagan1349 Жыл бұрын
I like the way you think
@getnotesonlife
@getnotesonlife Жыл бұрын
Sir, you are amazing. One of the most enjoyable builds on KZfaq. Bravo
@davybrown1329
@davybrown1329 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! Stunning work George! Can’t wait for next time!
@62Wattie
@62Wattie Жыл бұрын
Extremely impressive George, your ingenuity is broadening by the day. Well done
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Love that user pic! See you soon
@michaelskinner896
@michaelskinner896 Жыл бұрын
Wow, classic Soup Motoring content and film style! So beautifully done George!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Cheers Michael
@ruslanniftullaev5908
@ruslanniftullaev5908 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely insane
@craig_ramjet990
@craig_ramjet990 Жыл бұрын
Number 231. been waiting to see the next step!
@philipB31
@philipB31 Жыл бұрын
Clearly an artist and a b****y genius! Thank you, as always, for sharing.
@Stu_2112
@Stu_2112 Жыл бұрын
Still not entirely sure about making them in stainless.....but good progress and they'll look great either way 😁
@tednruth453
@tednruth453 Жыл бұрын
No one under 30 will get the tele-dial reference 😄
@belledetector
@belledetector Жыл бұрын
Slowburn but addictive. Look forward to the next phase ;-)
@ne2i
@ne2i Жыл бұрын
Soups on!
@jim5alive
@jim5alive Жыл бұрын
I LEARN SO MUCH HERE!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
10/10 🤣
@kenneththomas3558
@kenneththomas3558 Жыл бұрын
The Lotus build is next level. Great work !
@TheNorthernmunky
@TheNorthernmunky Жыл бұрын
Wow Awesome
@GT1900garage
@GT1900garage Жыл бұрын
Again, enjoyed every frame of this...
@jamesmcgee7723
@jamesmcgee7723 Жыл бұрын
A discussion about the suitability of stainless steel would be interesting. Great work as usual George.
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
The trick is finding someone with reliable definitive knowledge to have the conversation with 🤷🏻‍♂️
@snoosebaum995
@snoosebaum995 Жыл бұрын
weld a couple of pieces together , then get a big hammer or a pry bar and spend a few hours trying to get them apart. That will tell you about '' hydrogen embrittlement'' !
@anthonycamillos3719
@anthonycamillos3719 Жыл бұрын
Go to the engineering section of your local university and ask... internet experts are just that. Most engineers can't be shut up about their specialist topics 🙃
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Good shout. So much learned already, especially about ‘forum knowledge’ and it’s pitfalls
@ALH1415
@ALH1415 Жыл бұрын
Impressive as always!
@certifiedtricky
@certifiedtricky Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@pauld3638
@pauld3638 Жыл бұрын
This is my dream car , your vlogs are awesome and your skills.
@Rallymen007
@Rallymen007 Жыл бұрын
tje jig itself is absolute art such impressive attention to detail
@OpticalMan
@OpticalMan Жыл бұрын
Another wonderful piece of video art. The effort you go to to make a perfect piece of metal work for the Lotus is matched by the effort that must go in to making this video.
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew 🙂
@steveo5020
@steveo5020 Жыл бұрын
Loving the new arms so far 👍👍
@alaskanrockvodka9622
@alaskanrockvodka9622 Жыл бұрын
Bender! Another great vid, mate. 🥂
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
His shiny metal ass keeps showing up
@DPro
@DPro 9 ай бұрын
Loving it, but only problem is Now got to step up my game on my 88...... Keep the videos coming bud.
@Whateverpoopiepants
@Whateverpoopiepants Жыл бұрын
Another amazing video. If you’re looking to improve your welding knowledge I’d strongly recommend Jody “welding tips and tricks”- he’s an absolute master of the craft. Thanks again. ❤
@CanadianClassicCarNut
@CanadianClassicCarNut Жыл бұрын
I never miss an episode. Outstanding work!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Cheers, CCCN
@kevinfowler2761
@kevinfowler2761 9 ай бұрын
nice work. ive been a welder fabricator for 40 years. wish i had a project like that.
@Sirisa40
@Sirisa40 Жыл бұрын
Without doubt my favourite you tube channel ❤
@JohnHonda101
@JohnHonda101 Жыл бұрын
You're doing a fantastic job.
@kdoran709
@kdoran709 Жыл бұрын
Unreal.
@simonhodgetts6530
@simonhodgetts6530 Жыл бұрын
Every video a work of art……..
@TheMambo81
@TheMambo81 Жыл бұрын
Artist
@CORRIGEEN71
@CORRIGEEN71 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how you keep motivated given your he length of time yrs in this case that this project has been lying around I would have to get a few people around just to get me through it’s only a car!
@Sharpened_Spoon
@Sharpened_Spoon Жыл бұрын
But it’s not just about the car. It’s about the process. The gratification comes from taking the time to do it right and learn on the way.
@stuartd9741
@stuartd9741 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Joshua...
@kjeldlarsen912
@kjeldlarsen912 Жыл бұрын
I eat your videos like candy , thank you very much great work
@TheGreatSnafoo
@TheGreatSnafoo Жыл бұрын
Always liked the Lotus Espirit, I think DeLorean did too the car he designed looks a lot like it.
@danbrown4517
@danbrown4517 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, as always George - both the video production and the parts!
@FhVW
@FhVW Жыл бұрын
I know you don't see it that way, but you are living the dream, being able to restore something in a (working)space. I can't even find a proper living space, let alone work on my cars or store them. I've been on the hunt for an affordable space now for 3 years. I really enjoy the videos and all the luck with the rest of the build :)
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
I check myself every no an again when the situation gets on my nerves… I’m thankful to be able to keep working. Good luck with the search, it’ll work out eventually 🤞🏼
@Leconte101
@Leconte101 Жыл бұрын
Impressive, such a joy to watch. Thanks George
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, thanks for being here
@vitex9980
@vitex9980 Жыл бұрын
The channel where you like the video before watching it.
@NemoConsequentae
@NemoConsequentae Жыл бұрын
Impressive fabrication there, George! Knowing someone who can give you access, (& the odd pointer!), to the right equipment is a boon. Progress is being made, and although few people will see those parts, *_you_* will know they are there & know you did the best you could to restore it to better than new.
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
I’m more worried about whether to paint the uprights black now in stead of silver, to compliment the SS arms, than the SS arms themselves, Mykl 🤣
@NemoConsequentae
@NemoConsequentae Жыл бұрын
@@soupclassicmotoring That is the true conundrum! 😆
@m3talistic
@m3talistic Жыл бұрын
Nice music and nice video (y)
@1055Richard
@1055Richard Жыл бұрын
That is stunning engineering and even more stunning editing and video content - put together superbly, big fan..!
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
🍻
@christasker1277
@christasker1277 Жыл бұрын
Excellent jig 👌🏻
@1BCamden
@1BCamden Жыл бұрын
So glad you brought up the materials issue, its been on my mind since the last episode. For what its worth, the condition of the original CS radius arms, and noting the absence of any fatiguestress cracking around the mounting points, I would say SS is not the solution, like for like is a better solution plus a great powder coat job if need be. Or, just don't throw out the CS units, just saying 😎 Half the viewers wouldnt get 08:14mins, love it, love the jig, very smart. Great work regardless George, best wishes from South Oz
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, nothing is binned! It’s all just experimentation and learning. May we’ll go back to CS. Thanks a mill 🤘🏼
@snoosebaum995
@snoosebaum995 Жыл бұрын
weld a couple of pieces together , then get a big hammer or a pry bar and spend a few hours trying to get them apart. That will tell you about '' hydrogen embrittlement'' !
@muzzthegreat
@muzzthegreat Жыл бұрын
2cents : As someone mentioned the weakness of the original semi-trailing arms is the front pivot; they said was a 3/8" bolt - yeah bit light; And my view is that the Box-section sheetmetal around the Through-Block [don't know the right term] would be under some nasty stresses. My view is : increase the bolt to say 1/2" - it doesn't sound much, but terms of cross-sectional area and fretting-wear that is a huge step-up; Then [must] increase the diameter of the through-block say 3/4" becomes 1", And put Lap-plates on the outside of the Box-section, second-weld to the through-block, and plug or perimeter-weld the lap-plates to the box thus effectively doubling the wall-thickness in the stressed area. As I see it a truly incredible performance is being expected of the thin sheetmetal around that through-block: those Two [only] bolts transmit virtually all the acceleration from the wheels to the chassis - wheres the Hub-End looks well designed: Width, Lap and Taper - but there are very diverse forces there also.
@dutchglobetrotter6464
@dutchglobetrotter6464 Жыл бұрын
It's art!
@martyhandley4456
@martyhandley4456 Жыл бұрын
Your voice and actually look a little bit like the trumpet player in the movie the commitments , and this is a damn fine build, thanks for sharing.
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Two week ban 😤😆
@philcryer5773
@philcryer5773 Жыл бұрын
great stuff ,
@jonnyabba25
@jonnyabba25 Жыл бұрын
Stunningly beautiful work. The skills you’ve acquired over the last few years are coming to their fore now. This Esprit will be outstanding. Looking forward to the finished product.
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jonny
@TheLRider
@TheLRider 10 ай бұрын
Superb end of. You're a very clever young man.
@claudiolebandit9408
@claudiolebandit9408 Жыл бұрын
As always classy, sharp n fun
@mathewjones5520
@mathewjones5520 Жыл бұрын
Fair play Georgie, lovely work, can't fault you on the effort
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Cheers, Mathew
@Sirisa40
@Sirisa40 Жыл бұрын
Omg that tune!!!
@jeffkempkes185
@jeffkempkes185 Жыл бұрын
Not sure why you are using SS, but you are doing an excellent job. Been watching you for years and the content and your skills improve each video. Keep up the good work.
@soupclassicmotoring
@soupclassicmotoring Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sticking around, Jeff
@thehalfwittedlayabout
@thehalfwittedlayabout Жыл бұрын
Fantastic 👍
@fg.vieira
@fg.vieira Жыл бұрын
Superb work man, the amount of passion and skills is beyond this world! This is a master class!
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