"Making it up as they go along, it's a farce" | Back Pages Tonight on Everton's points deduction

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The Telegraph's Jason Burt and The Independent's Miguel Delaney share their strong views on Everton's two-point deduction for another breach of the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR).
Before the points deduction was announced, Everton sat 15th in the Premier League table, four points above the bottom three. They now drop below Brentford into 16th place on 27 points, two points and two places above 18th-placed Luton.
According to the written reasons published by the independent commission handling the case, Everton breached their allowed spending of a £105m loss over three seasons by £16.6m. The Premier League and the commission initially wanted to impose a five-point deduction on the club, but it was reduced to two on mitigating factors.
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@TheUltimatewomble Ай бұрын

Taking the piss... And I don't support everton

@simondalzell5635 Ай бұрын

I agree, and I wish I didn't

@miketurner1608 Ай бұрын

Don’t agree then

@timgill2003 Ай бұрын

As a Newcastle supporter, I stand stand up for Everton and Forest.

@garymcburnie8323 Ай бұрын

Forest yes. Everton no

@TheDavewatts Ай бұрын

@@garymcburnie8323shut up Robin

@user-os7ec4dm8x Ай бұрын

@@garymcburnie8323 Everton yes Forest no

@CTJ893 Ай бұрын

Newcastle are nothing

@Haakonisak Ай бұрын

PL are after Everton, every fan who follow the club are aware of that. Their behaviour does not just affect the points, it affect players, managers, sponsors and possible new owmers interest in the club. It affect the fanbase and are throwing the whole club farther down the drain.

@alistairmonro Ай бұрын

You mean the people that love Liverpool, that made rules to keep teams from investing and improving, are going after Everton. No way!

@josephkibble4379 Ай бұрын

It’s strange they want Burnley in the league not being funny all of them clubs at the bottom apart from Luton have sacked their manager not even one word about how kompany isn’t good enough as a prem manager I mean he was at the best club in Belgium and was shite it’s very strange but the league has been fixed all the VAR decisions football has been corrupted they are coming for Everton hard very strange

@CCkhT21o681 Ай бұрын

I'm not an everton fan, but this FFP situation is getting ridiculous. The way the EPL has not reviewed the $105m allowable lost figure for 10+ years yet is now arbitrarily deducting points from clubs breaching them is so amateurish LMAO. Just do your job properly and adjust the $105m by inflation. And the points deduction at random times during the season is affecting the integrity of the competition as Everton simply gains extra incentive to perform each time they get a deduction. WTF is the EPL doing??? All EPL fans should come together to protest and threaten a boycott on the Premier League brand.

@ItsAv3rageGamer Ай бұрын

As long as good old City remain protected.

@komujimaru Ай бұрын

they have paid fa billions to not get points deducted

@alistairmonro Ай бұрын

The only reason FFP was brought in was to protect United Liverpool and Arsenal. To stop another Chelsea. The top clubs have all the money. If someone wants to invest to improve you gets point deduction.

@CollideWithTheSlope Ай бұрын

@@alistairmonro tf is this bullcrap

@alistairmonro Ай бұрын

@@CollideWithTheSlope tell me how FFP protects anyone but the 'big clubs' who were already raking in at least 5 times that of a team placed outside top 6 of the prem? It's just a punishment for trying to break the status quo.

@jamm8284 Ай бұрын

@@alistairmonrobecause as you said they have the money. 😂 If there wasn't ffp rules and Luton can spend what they want, that also means that Liverpool and arsenal can spend what they want and, again, as you say, they have the money 🤦🏻‍♂️ Ffp is basically based on fan and sponsorship revenue, not which billionaire has the most money.

@gnargnarpogo Ай бұрын

By this time next year the PL wont even have these financial rules. Shambles

@Dooguk Ай бұрын

Remember when certain rich clubs tried to destroy the Premier League? What did they get as punishment? A £2m fine each. Tell me, which is the worst offence?

@gburns671 Ай бұрын

Totally spot on, these clubs should've have been relegated to League Two.

@mechalovessquirrels18 Ай бұрын

Premier League deducts points from Everton and Forest threatening relegation while City is pampered to chase their 4th title in a row. Everton and Forest deserve justice.

@dalestanley9177 Ай бұрын

City situation has no connection to Everton & Forest

@sebastiangjerde8128 Ай бұрын

@@dalestanley9177 But they have 115 charges against them and the investigation has been going for over a year. Everton and Forest deserves justice more than any other club. Not to forget Chelsea who also have breached the PSR rules. Nothing is happening to the so called "big 6".

@victormuchori4042 Ай бұрын

City's case is different do your research well sir.. Anyway cry more 😂Cmon city

@marty1459 Ай бұрын

The regulations that Everton are struggling to comply with came in after the rules changed. The City charges relate to a time when there was no time limit on proceedings, which is why they have been able to kick the can down the road. There are also potential criminal aspects to the City charges relating to financial fraud so it's very complicated. Add to that the owners of City are some of the richest people in the world therefore have elite lawyers making it harder and harder for the league to punish them. Let's put it this way though, if the regime that owns City can murder journalists without consequences then getting rid of these charges using every trick in the book will be a walk in the park for them.

@ryansmith240992 Ай бұрын

@@marty1459city regime didn’t murder the journalist, that was the Newcastle owner

@cmdrmarz8625 Ай бұрын

Corrupt to the core.

@seanrandles3416 Ай бұрын

Corruption is the wrong message. There is no evidence of corruption. Incompetent administration and inconsistent sanction yes, corruption no.

@derekcummins9088 Ай бұрын

remember the Premier wanted to deduct 17 points, so the£20million overspend wich is means it's twice as bad as administration.

@alistairmonro Ай бұрын

Can't have you being competitive. Get back in your place.

@user-os7ec4dm8x Ай бұрын

Surely Marsters should be sued here? blatant corruption.

@terrencechristopher7031 Ай бұрын

I told u all long ago, corrution is rife in all areas of life, Sports ain,t no different, the PL is nothing but a S,,,t show, 2 leagues in 1😮

@evanmurphey Ай бұрын

damn straight

@Luke86811 Ай бұрын

Where is Man City’s punishment what an absolute farce

@Harrycrashy Ай бұрын

It’s different case 😊

@grahamh1234 Ай бұрын

@@Harrycrashyand?

@victormuchori4042 Ай бұрын

It's a different case bro.. If you know anything about law different cases are treated differently. Anyway cry more 😂😂😂Ole Ole man city

@S_Dunne Ай бұрын

@@Harrycrashyyea, what Man City did is worse!

@alistairmonro Ай бұрын

@@S_Dunnewhat did they do?

@patkelly931 Ай бұрын

If City broke the rules, when in effect, they have to be penalised. You can’t change the rules to let them off.

@alistairmonro Ай бұрын

They changed the rules to stop anyone 'doing a chelsea' so why not?

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

The thing is though, it is an "if". They haven't been found guilty of anything as of now, so they haven't been "let off". They haven't even had their trial yet.

@alistairmonro Ай бұрын

@@handsolo1209 none of it will matter anyway. They've won the titles. You can take it away on paper, but the fans and the players still lived the highs of it, they can't take that away.

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

@@alistairmonro I don't think they could take anything away either. This is all for stuff from 2009-2014, most of it accusing Etihad of not actually paying any money and Sheikh Mansour actually paying the sponsorship. The thing is, it was all passed by accountants and auditors at the time, and they have zero ability to see Etihad's books anyway. They literally can have zero evidence for any of it. All they have are doctored emails from Der Spiegel.

@andym.6141 Ай бұрын

It’s an utter farce.

@cutlerlon8468 Ай бұрын

Why? They broke the rules.

@johnobrien4318 Ай бұрын

@@cutlerlon8468 You think its normal in sport that participants don't know where they stand? The End of the season may not finish on the pitch. This isnt sport!

@cutlerlon8468 Ай бұрын

@@johnobrien4318 Every club that didn't break the rules isn't worried.

@ewankenney183 Ай бұрын

@@cutlerlon8468 they quite simply are, look at the embarrassment that was the January transfer window

@Bats1234 Ай бұрын

@@cutlerlon8468That goes without saying you simpleton, the reason Everton are in this situation is they had their major shareholder annexed due to geopolitical reasons. Losing £200m for no reason of their own then having points taken due to funding a stadium which in their own words isn't a deductible factor... Seems fair doesn't it.

@harrydwinduono5520 Ай бұрын

Thats Everton !! and than Where is 115 ?

@Shaneb89 Ай бұрын

Where's city's punishment??

@Sadviolinsound Ай бұрын

Because there's 115 charges it takes time, it's not like only 10 charges

@cygnus3632 Ай бұрын

Well they seem to be doing Evertons and Forrests one at a time so that argument doesn't hold water

@komujimaru Ай бұрын

@@Sadviolinsound idc

@keithwatkinson4892 Ай бұрын

@@cygnus3632correct pal

@gazmo71 Ай бұрын

In Everton's first charge there was 26,000 documents for a charge that Everton put their hands up to. City is disputing their multiple charges so there will be at least 100x that much. The Premier Leagues biggest mistake is not charging City on one or 2 charges then going on once completed

@danh4859 Ай бұрын

Has the premier league ever been this shambolic? VAR decisions which defy belief, the way the PSR rules have been dealt with for Everton and Forest, certain other clubs having multiple charges unheard and unpunished for years but allowed to keep winning…

@leehaslam5751 Ай бұрын

What is this crap efl clubs have been charged for years and we dont have the luxury of 100 odd million my club got 9 points deducted for 1 breach everton now have 8 for 2

@foundation6867 Ай бұрын

They are punishing Everton what about Manchester City 115 rules breached city deserve a punishment it’s totally ridiculous 😡

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

No Man City has 115 accusations, not "rules breached". These "breaches" have to be proven by the PL first before any punishment can be handed out. Man City are innocent until proven guilty.

@ianreddish1878 Ай бұрын

Exactly right, two decades of issues trying to be solved in a season and now football is deeply divided with animosity among supporters reaching very unsavoury levels. The PL surely didn't want this did they? Sack Richard Masters and bring in an Independent Regulator.

@colinbenwell166 Ай бұрын

Is this the post office scenario all over again. What a bunch of 🤡🤡🤡

@lucaschapman2188 Ай бұрын

So come the end of the season we can have a scenario where Luton, Everton, Forest or even Brentford. Won’t really know if they are relegated or not. Pending appeals or further point reductions. So none of these teams can plan for next season. What a farce.

@charlesapana9935 Ай бұрын

Why always Everton

@evanmurphey Ай бұрын

someone in the FA really wants them relegated, is probably a Liverpool supporter

@Lovethecjeslea1 Ай бұрын

Everton get deducted Man City have 115 charges and doing nothing if Everton had 115 charges they would have got rid of the club while with city doing nothing

@leehaslam5751 Ай бұрын

Stop talking nonsense man citys are charges while everton are guilty pls try and understand what ur talking about

@Lovethecjeslea1 Ай бұрын

@@leehaslam5751 Man City fan hate that team cheats

@leehaslam5751 Ай бұрын

@@Lovethecjeslea1 couldnt care less what man city fans hate

@foundation6867 Ай бұрын

Why hasn’t Manchester City not been giving point deduction

@davecalderdalelufc8173 Ай бұрын

I'm sick of premier league and EFL different organisations. Forest and Everton have messed up and got points deducted this season. Why has EFL not done it to Leicester this season? Leeds said no to Harry Winks, but he's on £90.000 a week at Leicester for an average player. There is so much corruption in politics and football. They are as bad as each other. I apologise if you disagree! Messing with England flag as well is so disrespectful. Now GB Olympic Games team for our flag. I'm really had enough. We can't leave this rubbish country because of bexit. I apologise just had enough of our values brussed off as a brit.

@lilbaz8073 Ай бұрын

Maybe do some research. The efl did try to punish leicester. But leicester took them t court and argued they weren't in the efl so didn't have to show their accounts for that time period. They won.

@NankerPhelge65 Ай бұрын

IM DONE WITH THE CORRUPT ABU DHABI PREMIER LEAGUE !

@robincadle3403 Ай бұрын

Why are they picking on Everton? A total farce!

@TheRobconnor Ай бұрын

Funny how jason change his tune. We said the punishment and findings did not match the crime after 1st points deduction. Now he starting to see our point of view.

@kayceee6770 Ай бұрын

What I find funny is if Everton are only 16m over the budget, which could be attested to their summer signings, why not just give them a transfer ban if a single player could have been what pushed them over. The Prem just want to punish someone to be seen as in control. How can these even be getting handed out mid season, and multiple times at that. Imagine if the first punishment still stood at 10 points, they'd still have added more on.

@TheRobconnor Ай бұрын

@kayceee6770 because its not about player trading. We have the lowest net spend on trading in last 3 years, and been in profit from trading. We would've been better too if prem hadn't forced us to sell Ritchie and Gordon for preferable rates.

@shadow_realm47 Ай бұрын

@@TheRobconnor losing Richi and Gordon has been the biggest miss. Brighton were selling worse players for more moeny when we were forced to sell.

@TheRobconnor Ай бұрын

@@shadow_realm47 but you get leas points and more money for holding onto your players

@jeffccan4464 Ай бұрын

Where in the he!! Is the point reduction for Man City. They broke the rules multiple times more than Everton ever did, and they had to know what they were doing. On top of it all they were one of the clubs that would have torn the PL apart. Justice, right. 💰💰💰

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Seeing as you are part of the PL's legal team, can you tell us which rules they broke? Us mere members of the public just want to know. Nobody will say. You can finally clear it all up. Thank you!

@ianphillips9455 Ай бұрын

What about Man115 City? first charge is from 2009.

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Yes, 2009, 3 years before FFP even existed...

@ianclarke3627 Ай бұрын

Crazy , more than double the points for administration, more points than forest who spent over more than everton . Personal vendetta

@MegaPedro1975 Ай бұрын

We need a vote of no confidence against the PL. This cannot carry on into the future. I’m a blue, hands up and we have. But the league are taking the piss out of the fans and the playing staff. A 3rd charge would ruin us and the top 6 teams don’t intervene.

@Sutty0151 Ай бұрын

We won’t get a 3rd charge this season we’ll get it in the new season and if where relegated we won’t get it at all since we won’t be in the pl to receive it

@Harrycrashy Ай бұрын

@@Sutty0151you will still get it whatever league you’re in

@Sutty0151 Ай бұрын

@@Harrycrashy the premier league can’t deduct if your in the efl hence Leicester they could only apply it if we returned to pl and if we do get deducted again it will be a tiny amount like this one

@tomwebster5348 Ай бұрын

@@Sutty0151there is actually precedent for punishments being dealt in different leagues, both up and down - I can’t remember the clubs it happened to, but it has happened, was a story about it the other day stating that’s why Leicester could still be punished. Would give you more detail but can’t remember it for the life of me 😅

@Sutty0151 Ай бұрын

@@tomwebster5348 it’s not really worth worrying about mate if we breach again it will be less than this one so probably only a point at best

@grumpyoldman9805 Ай бұрын

How does this affect city when by the time the pl has he them up for there sins it’ll be 3 years after the charges

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Well, first of all you actually have to prove guilt to punish them, which hasn't happened yet, then if you do find them guilty, you have accused them of fraud, so they will take it to a real court for a real trial, and then, if found guilty by an actual court, it will be far more than points. It will be arrests, bans, liquidations, etc. If a real court rules in their favour though, man will there be some lawsuits!

@jonathankennedy1715 Ай бұрын

ManCheaty 115+ should be suspended from all activity until investigation is completed.

@gjh997 Ай бұрын

Excellent interviews. How can anyone disagree with these comments? From an Everton fan.

@sjolson68 Ай бұрын

Seems clear all the ambiguity has been designed into the system to allow for less real scrutiny. I'm sure everyone remembers the bribery around awarding Qatar 2022 and how the criminals there weren't ever really punished. Money is the only arbiter of high level sport and politics.

@kevinbrookes6550 Ай бұрын

Fast track only applies to some clubs. Others dawdle along like a snail.

@MrClanCularius Ай бұрын

I think Everton are being used to solve ManCity issue. I don't think majority of the supporters would like to see Everton going down like this but relegated (and soon to be relegated) teams are (understandably) furious. This discussion will come to the boiling point and it will be obvious that heavy punishments like drastic point deductions and relegation are not the solution. And only then (miraculously) that untangled mess of 100 charges will be solved.

@slaz1966 Ай бұрын

Great point - Everton and Forest are being used as test cases so they can define guidelines to assess City - in other words they are buying time to put together a framework as they are absolutely lost on how to deal with City - so the alternative will be to change all the rules to favour the Scum Six !!!!

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

@@slaz1966 Yes, or...they are separate cases (you know, like if you went to court, not all cases are anything to do with each other) and the Everton and Forest things are open and shut cases, but the Man City one is far more complex, and rushing in could end very badly for a lot of people at PL HQ.

@bombaybadboy187 Ай бұрын

story about everton ends up back to talking about newcastle... brilliant journalist

@kevparkin4846 Ай бұрын

Why is there not a clear set of guidelines that were released in advance of them being implemented, first breach, severity ranking and punishment, subsequent breaches and totting up etc, the same way the points / ban system works for speeding or drink driving. A judge will be required to assess the specifics and determine if how sever something is, for example, but the punishment should be based on guidelines.

@xhowitisx Ай бұрын

If they can do one at a time for Everton, why cant we see the same happen for Man city?

@patrickthomas8101 29 күн бұрын

I really wish the EPL uses the NFL system where there is a Salery cap for teams and all the TV revenue are Equally redistributed between the teams. As well as a draft system where the lower position teams get best youth prospects from the FA while the top teams get the last picks, keep things competitive. Not sure it would work with promotion relegation, but other sports do have systems where revenue don't go down within lower leagues like French Rugby Union in France.

@daleblanchard1768 Ай бұрын

In Australia, the Australian Football League (AFL) has a salary cap - every club has the same total 'pot' ($) to pay their players with each season. Is this impossible to implement in the EPL?

@RobertJones-ku4fg Ай бұрын

Imagine getting relegated by a deduction this year, for the rules to be scrapped in July 😂

@Sutty0151 17 күн бұрын

Good job Everton need not worry then isn’t it 😂

@EveHenleySpread Ай бұрын

Oh here go.. see how it takes Miguel Delooney to mention City, all of 20 seconds!!

@pencilpauli9442 Ай бұрын

It gets even worse when you consider the Championship. Leicester could be docked some points...but because the offence occurred in the premiership, they won't be deducted until they return back to the Prem. This is due to the deadlines of Championship and Premiership are different. Why were the deadlines not synchronised?

@peteward6301 Ай бұрын

Premier League are an embarrassment. Anyone who knows football understands that other teams have breached rules to a far greater extent yet their cases are being differed until the rules have changed!!! Don’t bother banging on about who has “admitted” charges and who hasnt- everyone knows certain teams have spend obscene amounts to get the success on the pitch and building revenue in the process. Let’s not forget that 6 teams tried to walk away from the Premier League because of financial greed - they each got a small fine and it got swept under the carpet. Either punish “big teams” (as their cases happened first) and then do other clubs afterwards- or if you’re too frightened to punish the wealthy teams - scrap these punishments entirely. Premier League is a farce and has been for a very long time.

@GWJUK Ай бұрын

It’s amazing how they are “making up” against Everton but City are guilty without trial - talk about arguing each end of an argument

@areyoutriggered_ Ай бұрын

city owners must be laughing their faces off..straight up getting away with murder..115 charges not even a single point deduction or any kind of verdict? money truly talks

@glenwhelan9866 Ай бұрын

Ruined the EPL, absolute ridiculous rules for points deduction, and laughable…EFC should have anticipated a War, meanwhile the rules are made up to fit the charges. Let’s get rid of their ability to be judge and jury. Smacks of the post office scandal

@yozzsongs Ай бұрын

It’s protectionism for the champs league cartel. Simples UTFT!

@philipboyd7692 Ай бұрын

Sky Sports go hand in hand with Richie Masters and Premier League To Protect the SLY SIX who wanted to Leave for the Super League.. They av gone after Everton due too Corrupting Officials in both camps including the Referees👍

@jonhunter8737 Ай бұрын

The first set of charges should have been dealt with last season, so this is why we have double jeapordy this season. Then the procedure has never been outlined, so there is no framework of punishments. Thus, every comission has it's own idea of what punishment is needed. At the end of the day, no club should be getting points deductions for financial overspends. Simply fine or give a transfer ban.

@Lkelly_92 Ай бұрын

Who are these two? Because they are the only people I’ve heard speak any sense on this farce. Finally Sky Sports News interviewing people that actually know what they are talking about instead of “influencers”

@gazmo71 Ай бұрын

Delaney cant help himself having a pop at Newcastle for the umpteenth time. Every interview he shoe horns us into the conversation

@SoylentGreenIsPeople68 Ай бұрын

To all the armchair lawyers commenting about why Manchester City and their 115 charges havent been heard, the rule of law states INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY in the UK. Everton ADMITTED THEIR GUILT.

@MattMajcan Ай бұрын

kinda hard to prove man city's guilty when no one will hear the charges

@user-li2me1wy4l Ай бұрын

Fans Against Negative Sanctions......(We all need to stand together and show these pen pushers who are in charge ......THE FANS

@garybestman5485 Ай бұрын

From a liverppol fan Y.N.W.A

@johndlawlor Ай бұрын

So if Everton had just accepted the points deductions and not appealled we'd be talking about 17 points for a 21 million over spend with mitigating circumstances when Coventry got 10 for going into liquidation. Its bonkers.. doing it mid season is also totally wrong, the players and the clubs don't know where they stand. Could you imagine if Everton go down by a point while waiting on the appeal then get a point back. Then the Premierleague would have to turn around to another club and tell them they are relegated.

@stevencurran7656 Ай бұрын

How the hell if man city have so far been charged on 115 counts,they have been charged so why have they not been sentenced why , cannot the touch the glamour club

@evfour3335 Ай бұрын

why cant they do something like a transfer window block? or something that would hinder these big money teams like chelsea and man city from spending anything. I.e. their players can leave, but they cant spend more on new players? that would screw the big money teams over

@robertpantor4366 Ай бұрын

No integrity until the PL addresses 115 charges. Everything else is just ole talk.

@user-mt4tf6zx7c Ай бұрын

Man City. Nuff said.

@papapa9106 Ай бұрын

What about the charges against city? How can you deduct points next season for 10yrs+ of charges will city if guilty be expelled from the champions league? Will they be relegated ?

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Won't be expelled from Champions League because CAS dismissed UEFA's accusations for the same things. The PL think they can go back further in time (to before FFP even existed) for some reason. They are going to need a lot of evidence to prove any of what they are accusing Man City of doing.

@hansfyhrqvist7734 Ай бұрын

If the Premier League and its commissions are not following up with coming verdicts against Chelsea and Manchester City along the lines which they have taken against Nottingham Forest and especially Everton, they will lose all respectability and credibility all over the world. The best league on the playing field, but the worst in "court rooms"!

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Weird isn't it! Open and shut cases dealt with quickly, really complex cases take longer. Crazy!

@killerrabitofcaerbannog Ай бұрын

Feels like they're looking for a reason to justify this independent football regulatory board.

@flashgordon3350 Ай бұрын

i dont support Everton either but this is obviously unfair treatment on all levels. the premier league have just used everton to try to scare all the other clubs and flex their muscle to the independent regulator threat, and done it with an amateuristic, sketchy evaluation system that is not transparent. its all backfired on the premier league though, and fans of all clubs have lost alot of respect for them.

@um931 Ай бұрын

Jist wait until city get off without any points deductions.

@prodreamer8836 Ай бұрын

The financial implications for all of the "smaller clubs" when the big six tried to break away would have been catastrophic , what did they get....£2 million fine. Something needs to be done,i for one am not happy with a biased none competitive league.

@michaels8638 Ай бұрын

Imagine Arsenal and Liverpool losing a game but City are deducted 4 points it would tarnish the title results so for this reason they are delaying City points deduction. But Forest and Everton are bottom of the league so discussion is well they broke the rules, lets have it right Chelsea have broken the rules for years and even self reported when the new owners got their hands on the books and still we see no deductions.

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

No, they are not "for this reason delaying a City points deduction". They have to actually prove City's guilt before they can actually punish them. It's not hard to understand. Everton and Forest are proven and open and shut. City's is much, much more complex and risky.

@gabrielchunguchitoshi2243 7 күн бұрын

I think this kind of penalties against some teams is not good. This is spoiling the image of football in the EPL.

@RobertJones-ku4fg Ай бұрын

Convenient that the punishments change just before city's case

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

I know right. At court last week, how convenient that they held trials before starting new ones this week, Crazy!

@RobertJones-ku4fg Ай бұрын

@@handsolo1209 what?

@timgill2003 Ай бұрын

Can the premier league please give the public exact figures of profit and loss for all PL clubs and explain to football fans exactly how everything works. I would like to know why Chelsea and Man City have not been punished. If they keep this information from the public then the fans will assume that there is corruption and.bias towards certain clubs. I have a simple system which would be fair to all.clubs. Irrespective of income. CL clubs (top 4) can spend 200 million Europa League/ Conference 150 million Newly promoted clubs 130 million Everyone else 100 million

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

This is a simple one. Everton and Forest have been found guilty of breaching rules for the last 2 seasons. Chelsea's new owner said he found things in the previous regimes accounts that looks suspect, so that is a bit more complex, and Man City have passed the PL's PSR easily for the last 5 seasons. The PL are looking at things from before FFP even existed, and are basically accusing City and their sponsors of fraud. It is going to take mountains of evidence for the PL to prove their case, whereas Forest and Everton's case is simple spreadsheets and profit and loss.

@user-tf2zt8jw9n Ай бұрын

This rules , are killing the beautiful game, how on earth would one be punished for handling of there finances , poor or well who does it concern and why, at the end they wil deduct points from all the premier League clubs , guess what . It's not fair too much rules in EPL

@Psalm11950 Ай бұрын

Forest to get at least 2 points back

@russky68 Ай бұрын

Transparently corrupt.. No shame… They will feel the wrath of the people of Liverpool if relegated as they want…

@EMAD-zk9rb Ай бұрын

Brown envelopes keeping city safe at the minute.

@gozitan5 Ай бұрын

See the Ref’s favourites Man City still unresolved…they’ll let them Win the premiership the next season have a gander.

@vapeymcvape5000 Ай бұрын

There isn't enough security in the world to protect any premier league executive in the city of Liverpool.

@glynwhite6168 Ай бұрын

The City charges, over several seasons, with the potential somewhere down the line of them being stripped of league position and titles, would cause yet another headache for the league. Each season would see teams lower than them jump up one position, each of those positions is about £2 million in prize money difference and teams would be within their rights to sue for the money. Who they'd sue would be another question but if it was the Premier League having to find say £72 million a season for 10 seasons and then add on lawsuits from teams who were relegated by being 3rd bottom, this could kill the league's finances. So either the commission finds for the PL and loses £1 billion roughly or finds for City and then even more counter cases begin from teams that have sat of their hands to satisfy FFP.

@stuartrobinson2456 Ай бұрын

I totally agree ITS REALLY EASY,,,there was a vote by PL clubs,,,, dont lose £40 million a year for 3 years and you wont be punished. it should be simplified if you break the £120 million loss you get relegated. Any other punishment is pointless.

@user-mt4tf6zx7c Ай бұрын

Just like any authority they go after the easy target when there are far more serious rule breakers to tackle. Pathetic.

@tdlamzang2419 Ай бұрын

They just need a better lawyer like Man city

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

They just need to not break rules, admit it, and then complain afterwards.

@macjakedom Ай бұрын

Ohhh look, he mentions Nufc again. He’s terrified that another club should challenge the red cartel. 😂

@bleb87 Ай бұрын

I get they city have 115 charges. But it's not a pie. You don't need to eat it in a single bite. There is no reason one charge couldn't have been addressed by now. One deduction one issue except.... the title race is good for busuness. Everton doesn't matter, so ya hit us twice and maybe a third while saying "115 charges it a lot is Going to take a long time"

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Man City do not have 115 charges. They have 5, some of which they keep repeating over and over again to make it look worse. All of the charges imply fraud, which is a big deal. If the PL make one mistake with this, they are sued to oblivion. They bit off more than they can chew here and are now in a pickle.

@tulyar57 Ай бұрын

As an aside, the claim that the EPL is a very open and competitive league is a myth. Yes, there is a three horse race this year but it is the same three teams. To put it into context, the EPL since its inception has been won by only 7 clubs, and that includes Liverpool, Leicester and Blackburn who have only won it once each. In contrast, its predecessor during the same time frame between 1952-80 was won by 15 different clubs. Competetive, my arse!

@sunnyD301 Ай бұрын

Makes no sense, if they are dealing with each charge 1 by 1 then something should of been mentioned about man City by now... joke

@user-ml2kg6jm8q Ай бұрын

And Manchester City goes free ... mmm Money Can Buy all the Old men , and Money Doesn't smell

@lordJUDE10 Ай бұрын

115

@Ianthompsonuk Ай бұрын

Take the PL to court with a top lawyer and sue the bastards, as well as refuse to play any more matches till they give back All the points they have stolen. It’s time to play hardball.

@lilbaz8073 Ай бұрын

Can see how that would go. - so you helped write the rules. - you then voted to bring in the rules. - you then didn't want a set punishment but to leave it to the commission. - you then broke the rules and pleaded guilty. - what are you suing for again?

@samuelloification2749 Ай бұрын

Sue someone for upholding the rules of the competition that was voted in by the clubs and signed up to by the clubs. Yeah that will work.

@shadow_realm47 Ай бұрын

I'm not in favour of not playing games that's childish. We have 3-4 winnable 6 point double header games If we can win those these deductions wont matter. If we can get 9-12 points from those we deserve to be in the PL cus every team around us will drop points. We need to Draw with Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal. This favors City and the Abudhabi Premier League , oh well.

@TheGolfer29 Ай бұрын

Get ready for a rule change to suit the likes of City & Chelsea. The whole thing is a disgrace.

@alcurtis7882 Ай бұрын

Next season it all changes the white paper will definitely go for another regulator the premier league are corrupt the are taking the PSR?

@alcurtis7882 Ай бұрын

Don’t forget Chelsea Newcastle and of course Man City who should be playing in the vanerrama league so currier it time to have an independent regulator kick the premier league out especially Richard Masters a embarrassment

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Weird, Man City were the only club who voted for an independent regulator though...

@billyf5591 Ай бұрын

Perfect scenario is for Everton to escape relegation before last game of season. What a dire mess this club is in!!.

@Davo594 Ай бұрын

I said that on a podcast weeks ago sky I want a job I swear by almighty god bill gates owes me doe “make it up as they go along”

@stephenjerome4135 Ай бұрын

Here we go again. This is taking the p*** now, and I don't support Everton. How is any of this fair? While Man City are still constantly protected with their 115 charges the premier league are picking on the smaller clubs and it's becoming a bloody joke now. That's 2 points deductions for Everton already, seems to me like they are really trying their utmost to relegate Everton from the premier league, they really couldn't make it more obvious if they tried. And they are now going to give them further points deduction next season. How is that fair? The premier league is a bloody circus run by 🤡🤡🤡🤡

@handsolo1209 Ай бұрын

Seems like a little refresher course in law is needed for you. Charges = accusations. Not proven, not guilty, and guilt must be proven by the accuser. Punishment = you were found guilty and are paying a penance for your guilt. Are you keeping up so far? Good. Man City = accused, not had their day in court, so MUST be treated as innocent until PROVEN guilty. Everton ADMITTED their guilt. You CANNOT punish UNTIL guilt is proven.

@craigshackleton1652 Ай бұрын

This is a form of terrorism by the Premier League against Everton football Club. And we must remember a Football Club is not a faceless entity. It's fans, it's people working for the club who have so much stress wondering if or when they might be let go. It's the local community who the Club do a lot of vital work for. It's businesses who supply the club whether it's food contracts or otherwise that may be let go. The Premier league are threatening all those livelihoods simply to stop the Government looking into their affairs. If the Government has any sense and moral compass they must regulate the Premier League. Masters and his people have illustrated they couldn't run a Sunday League never mind the biggest in the world.

@rickybradley7605 Ай бұрын

When are Man City getting there points deduction or getting dropped out of the league as the Premier league is taking the piss out of Everton and Nottingham come on sort Man City out Premier league !!!!@!@🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

@malcolmscott8588 Ай бұрын

It's always somebody else's fault but when spending the massive money I didn't hear any fans complaining It's just you bought rubbish players

@setuyakuchannel. Ай бұрын

The promotion and relegation system is garbage and has no benefit. Rather, it is a loss. And even if there is a promotion and relegation system, the same team always wins. And if you go to the second division, you actually don't invest more. The value of the club is lowered due to the risk of relegation.