I'd love for them to reclassify this as a primary and make it a meme unlock in a future warbond, similarly to the bolt action rifle in the first game.

And if we got it as a proper support weapon then I could have THREE SHOTGUNS!

I like this idea a lot. I really just want this to be a special support weapon that you unlock by physically carrying it back from a mission. Gimme this, the Senator, and some lever action primary or something and I’ll be the rootinist-tootinist Helldiver.

It used to be a real primary. It was called the Double Freedom. And it kicked ass.

can't wait for AH to drop a plus 30% reload armor passive

No need to remove the existing options, just add it to one of the other 3 slots that are avaliable on the menu

leaving aside the issue of if arrowhead is willing/able to add the code supporting multiple ammo types with different behaviors, I think that it might make more sense to use the scroll wheel controls for both barrels, with the scroll up changing the top barrel and scroll down changing the bottom barrel, and that way the single shot/burst fire can stay and keep using the right click controls if arrowhead aren't going to add support for multiple ammo types on a single gun, my idea on how to at least make it less of a joke "haha, a double barrel, I'm doomguy now" pick-up, would be to give it medium penetration flechettes instead of its current buckshot, so there would be an actual reason to carry it around if, for example, your support weapon was still on cooldown I also think it'd be cool if we could unlock something like a joke booster that lets you drop with the break action and like 10 rounds of ammo by successfully extracting some number of times while carrying the break action

The thing about the BAS it that is has a very tight spread and packs a huge punch while also have burst fire, it's not a bad weapons tbh

This Shotgun has 40 shots so it should be. 1 find it on a mission. 2 kill 40 enemies to unlock. Otherwise it would be too easy.

actually genius

The break-action is surprisingly handy. Its damage, spread, knockback, and reload speed are surprisingly all in the goldilocks zone.

4:30 - you could use the top and bottom menus to select each barrel's ammunition, corresponding to the top and bottom barrels. Then you'd only need to use the scroll wheel to control both ammo types.

The fact that the Double Barrel isn't a Strategem is still surprising to me.

I actually LOVE this idea for a support weapon shotgun.

It doesn't have burst fire anymore, it now has both barrels fired at the same time

An incendiary option would also be fun! Could be made to mimic dragons breath bullets from real life, where it doesn't do as much straight damage as the incendiary breaker, but it does much more fire damage over time

Funnily enough, this IS my Tertiary weapon most times. I usually run 3 Destructive Stratagems and a Drone. So, finding this, or any other support weapon, is usually how I roll. I call it OSP, which I learned from MGS back in the day. On-Site Procurement. It also, in theory, makes my Divers less expensive to send out.

I like the idea of where this is going. But think it could be promoted in three different ways. 1. Make it so you select ammo for both barrels, barrel 1 and barrel 2, and double barrel or single barrel firing options. Radial menu up, down and right. My issue with this is, ammo quantity and value. When one type of ammo is more dominant than another and if loading "status" effect rounds deplete more ammo per shot than another etc. 2. Make it into a supplimentary support weapon on drop via unlock by extracting with it once. Extracting with the shotgun, gives you the chance to equip it before a dive like a 3rd weapon (however it stays in the current form it's in) that's meant to be replaced with a full support weapon 3. Extracting with the shotgun on a helldive difficulty unlocks a new hellpod modifier, named something along the lines of "trench warfare", "super shotgun" or "doom guys" and it gives all divers the shotgun out of the hellpod. Would like to see the shotgun get more love than it does now

Honestly this would make this the funniest weapon in game and it would be perfect. Im all for it tho :3

I remember when I was new and randomly used this gun because i didn't have any strategems unlocked and got kicked lmao

Break Action Shotgun (Support weapon) new stats: Medium Penetration (3) Damage 45 (Total 360 if all pellets hit same part) Pellets: 8 Durability Damage: 15 (Total 120 if all pellets hit same part) Large downsides are 2 rounds before needing to reload, and the rapid damage falloff (beyond 10m) Would make for a great up close annihilator weapon when found.

Achievement: *Grandpappy's Gun*/*Tools of the Fallen* Successfully extract a mission with the Break-Action Shotgun equipped. (Will unlock the Break-Action Shotgun Stratagem)

00/00 would shoot again. This is a pretty great idea all jokes aside i would love to use his shotgun more and the ammo types are pretty great for it as well. I want to propose a lil addon to this idea. Having the shells you bring with you swappable. What you proposed is great if they want to limit the ammo types to just a few, but shotguns have A LOT of ammo types i think being able to swap the 3 additional shell types would be quite nice *if* they decide to add more then just the 3 additonal types such as -Dragons Breath (incendiary), -Birdshot (more pellets, less dmg, better light enemy clearing), -FRAG-12 (Explosive, can take down small barriers such as fences and pierce more then buck would be strong against armored groups/devestators), -Sabot Slug (basically long range Heavy armor penning arrow wouldnt do a crazy amount of dmg to heavys though would be better at sniping medium armored targets like shooting a bile spewer some 100m out).

This is a Super idea sadly 😥 I don't think the devs have the time or budget to do this. And they like to nerfs more than buffs so they probably won't do this

I hope they will add Hammergewehr from Wolfenstein as support weapon. Breaker isn't enough anymore

If the "Flechette" is meant to be capable of dealing with Hulk's in a meaningful time frame, then what's the point of the Slug or other ammo types? You effectively created a scopeless double barrel AMR. Also, for a Stun Round to have a meaningful impact, it'd have to last longer than 1/10th the time of a Stun Grenade, in which case you've recreated the Stun Grenade spam bug. Not to mention it might be a bit fiddly to design a gun to remember two separate ammo types at once as well as what order they were loaded.

Incendiary spread rounds, low damage and wide spread fire damage rounds would be a nice addition, or gas rounds, mini mine/detonation rounds.b

I'd make it an achievement unlock. You then buy it like a regular support weapon. It would have no call down, it'd be the ONLY support weapon you drop with already equipped and loaded.

individual menus for each chamber is the way to go, with third menu to control "default shell on reload" behavior. We have 4 menus, why not use them. Very nice shotgun idea, i'd love to run it.

Absolutely love this idea! As you said, there's little reason to engage with the weapon menus (although, I do find swapping between burst and automatic fire on the Tenderizer to be occasionally useful), and something like this would make weapons much more interesting. Like if they had only one punisher that could swap between buckshot and slugs (make more use of those dual magazines), or if the breaker could swap between it's three different ammo types as opposed to having variants of the same gun. Obviously, they're not going to get rid of those weapon variants, but more reason to engage with the menu is something I've wanted for a while.

It's very likely incendiary grenade launcher is coming in the next warbond. With this, I would conclude they are unlikely to include changable ammunition type in the weapon system. cool idea though..

That would be a really cool niche for it to fill as a support weapon!

I'd love it if the Break Action was actually something you could call down with you and not have to rely on finding in the field, that's for sure

Cracking idea!

I agree with this, I’ve been waiting for customization for a while. It would make half the guns usable again. I just want a drum mag on my AR’s or some type of higher capacity mags maybe 45-50 rounds

My number one gun request is a break action single shot primary m79 style grenade launcher - under this system, it would be interesting to add stun/frag/gas grenades to something like that.

It should be unlocked as a stratagem when you reach level 150

I think there should be explosive ammo and fire ammo too

I like to pick this gun up and use it time to time, its a nice gun, I dont know if it woulf be worth have it be a stratagem instead of just being a primary

could make up change the first shell and down replace the second while keeping the right option for shooting one or both barrels

regarding the special ammo type reloading mechanic... that's a little over complicated. you can get every function you wanted if you just reloaded both barrels at the same time with the ammo type you've selected

If this weapon was lying about on the ground as they do, I still wouldn't fancy the chances of it getting picked up over any other support weapon. It would be a great primary weapon though. That said, I don't like how weapon categories have been pigeonholed in their capabilities, but it is what it is.

Actual 🔥idea

why not give the reload screen 2 bars that way you could pick what rounds you want there instead of having to go through reload animations over and over? i think it would be nice to be able to select which barrel is dedicated to each shot.

Just put 2 ammo selectors, 1 for each barrel (I really need to stop posting comments before I finish the video)

Sorry to say but Break Action Shotgun is the best Devastator headshotter there is.

I just finished a mission and the place where u buy stratagems has had a design change for me, it's like deeper into the wall, a separate room

I hope someone would ask about this weapon as a support weapon on the developers.

the only problem i see with the find it in mission to unlock it would be that players would teamkill for it for some time

Alternatively, have a reload menu options on the up and down arrows that allow you to select which ammo you put in each individual barrel, and shells are swapped (if different) on the closing of the reload menu.

I still think burstfire should stay I just think it should be buffed almost no games outside of Boomer shooters make firing both barrels as powerful as it should be. The new ammo types would combine with that well. You get the option to load different combinations of shells to fire at once Reminds me of drg's boltshark

It’s not an original weapon from Helldivers 1, it had a super shotgun the barrels were side by side not one on top of another

Since when was there a Destroy Transmission Network??

I think it should get frag shells

Seems a little complex… but I’m sure the devs could find a way.

Make it a primary, give it ridiculously tight spread + higher velocity (on account of the long barrels) and give it lots of ammo. That being said what I want is a lot more tube fed guns (rounds reload function), I think we should get something like a Mare's Leg and a Super Shorty, an incendiary version of the pump shotgun, and an automatic tube fed shotgun. I slept on all the shotguns besides the Blitzer until I was in the 40s level wise. After trying the Pump shotgun I'm a massive rounds reload fan. Going into combat with a full magazine cannot be understated. Sure you can drop a mag that is less than full, but you don't get those rounds back, nor can you combine two half filled magazines to make one full one, you just drop it in the dirt like trash. I really want a Rounds Reload Secondary

man Helldivers keeps looking better and better but that anti cheat... keeps me from trying it

just make it high risk reward weapon, if you barrel stuff a hulks mail slot or a charger butt you can one shot it, down side is you have to be in point blank range make it an anti heavy shotgun.

Dis cool

Are you playing with lossless scaling

1:20 " the guns are all good against everything". Realized right there this guy doesn't know what hes talking about and going forward wouldn't be a good use of time

all your ideas are great but sadly Arrowhead don't have a great track record on hearing player feedback and ideas.

Upvote to support the channel, but HD2 is ded game

Just have 2 menus, 1 for each barrel

If they made a 4 barrel and a primary that would slap this game needs weapon upgrades to return but then again the devs seems really awful

Human thinking is slow. Weapons usage is fast. Any time you give players a fiddly tool like that, they metagame all its complexity down to 1-2 optimal tricks, and use only that. While crying on forums, like, 'having to repop a emp+fle from the menu after every shot is atrocious, who the fuck made this shit, refunded and uninstalled'.