Praying for you🙏🏻💕

Omg Payden are you okay now how are you ??? I’m also stuck living with an abusive older sibling feel like I’m Dying I’m trying to escape this year but it’s just a lot involved before I can even leave 😔

I feel for you I am in situation and feel trapped

Great job in figuring him out while in the marriage! That's not easy [ I had no idea - was made to believe I have all kinds of faults]. I am certain you will do whatever it takes to ensure your safety. I wish I had my money out of the joint account [ earned more than him- he took all] and important papers. When out - keep the idea of Restraining order from him as an option if he acts up [mine did -to bring me back to him]. You may also know who your true friends are. Be careful and safe. There is challenge for a life in a new direction - but there is safety from weekly trauma. My prayers surround you. You will be safe and with a much firmer footing in life.

Praying for you Love!

This describes it perfectly.

Truth!

Yes, great description of them. You are an object to be used for what they want. And they want everything.

Ah, I know that stare.

@@pandoraw259 They all have that "dead gaze." To see it is very unsettling.

Yep

Yes, Jekyll and Hide. That's how I describe my ex. Charming to everyone else, but abusive to me behind closed doors. He was like two different people.

You're not crazy. My father is like this.

I'm sorry. I wish they did a better job instilling the sense of honor in us. You can jump on a grenade but if you enjoy hurting the person you are supposed to protect you have 0 honor..

That's my dad. He was charming and no one can believe nor do they want to hear how bad he was

@@free_software_channelRight on… that is 110% the truth!!!✨

You are absolutely right! It is a VERY SPECIAL AGENDA. They are so calculating. They are very dangerous. If they can DESTROY their own children and families and feel nothing, they must be capable of anything. Better duck.

Real talk i really needed to see your comment today thanks!👏👏👏

@@colette2612 Yes, you are right thanks!

Colette Ogata YES! Then blame the children for being ungrateful and act like they are the victim-being punished for trying to “do the right thing”. They are competent delusional.

They are still soulless as ever.

Yeah that's right

This is what my ex husband did

My husband of 30 yrs has always been this way, but he’s a combination of the different kinds of narcissists. We have lived in another country since 2008, but with covid we came back to USA as soon as flights were open because of better online schools for my then 13 yr old. But since being in US with him, everything we did was wrong. She had too much homework, she didn’t spend time with the family “ in his presence “ . Which was mostly because of his constant fighting with everyone. Then, with 1 simple ?… he started the silent treatment. He asked us where did we want to live. Our response was , here in America. Nope wrong answer. So, we didn’t know if we were staying or leaving. Then it was you can stay just because I want you to. But he was saying some pretty threatening things to our daughter when no one could hear. She finally told me. And this one time I heard him, (pre I now know not to engage with you) I asked him why he says things like that, tears included. And he says “your moms crying again “… my daughter said because you always say crap like that. OMG he started jumping around… went to my daughter took her glasses off her face.. had her by the wrists.. terrior on her face. He brought her to the bext room where i was. I immediately got up and told him” you not going to hurt her” over snd over… he says to her do you want to call the police on me? He said it like 2-3 times… her response was if you want me to. He lost his mind… started screaming thats it you’re going back overseas.. and you’re never coming back to thus country, your mom can come back to visit her family but not you… just screaming so I called my 25 yr old son… told him to come home. My husband said “did you call the police “? When my son got home the story of the events were not even close to what happened.. his version. After my daughter CALLED HIM CRAP , she came up to him with glaring eyes in an aggressive manner and it was my fault because my tone made her react that way, and everything he said and did was in joke not serious. We were terrified, but he was only joking. And had gone silent again. We are “visiting “ my family in another state until its time to travel. Which he and his brother are going as well but only for two weeks. I’m comfortable with my bro n law going.. that means husband will be in his Im a great person mode. I dont have the option of leaving and going no contact. He would not EVER let that happen. So staying with this man and going as grey rock as possible is our only option, having both my kids do the same. Thanks for listening…

Lived this.. living hell

Yes, it is shocking what a long game they can play

But be smart when you run. They are most dangerous if they know you're getting ready to leave. These are the people who are capable of killing a partner.

And still be prepared to have your life wrecked. My narc (used to be the best friend) got my drinks tampered so that she could sleep with me. When I did not, she told everyone that I was the culprit. Ended up losing my job and career...But now back on track after 4 years.

Sorry you’ve been through that. Very destructive. glad you rebuilt what’s important to you. 👏🏽👏🏽

So true! It’s like they literally go to pieces if someone is happy and feeling a smidgen of confidence. It’s almost unreal how ticked off they get about someone else’s happiness. Malignant narcissists are truly malignantly miserable demons.

@@LoweringMyProfile yep 100%

Keep a great distance from. Be polite but not social, they will use everything you say & do against you. She is more than likely, Jealous of you therefore she does not an will not ever like you or love you. I have a mother that is that way. I’m fortunate enough to not have to deal with her. But I dealt with her craziness for 40 yrs. I cut all ties.

Grey rock, give her compliments, keep your room spotless, stay quiet, don't bring friends home, can you get a babysitting job where they'll want you to sleep over, don't under estimate her craziness because you're just entering your beautiful stage and she'll become jealous of that too! Keep your cool, you've got more behind you than ahead, good luck, keep your health up!

There are people there that can help you if you are feeling at risk - children’s aid societies, the police, or when school comes back then ask to talk to a counselor or your teacher. As well, your doctor might be someone who can help you. If your safety is at risk or you are feeling mentally abused then don’t hesitate to ask for help. I wish you a safe journey as you grow up - remember this is not you.

You should probably find a trusted adult outside of the house (and family) to befriend, for not only your own mental health going forward, but as a safety net and confidante. Any friend's moms, dads, or adult siblings you think are cool that your mom doesn't know? It's for your safety and trust that she doesn't know them, not for hiding anything from her.

blessing to you!

Maria Roehe yup that’s mine 27 years I changed the locks this past dec ur spot on

I was married to one, but was lucky to escape quickly, so he didn’t cause much damage to me. No contact for 4 years!!!!

I lived with one for 17 years. My mother.

Snap! I am still trying to break free from this angry controlling erratic man

obsessed with money. i was oncein his car in the puoring rain and he didnt switch on the wippers to save them. my mouth fell open to this never have i ever witnessed this. this was my x bf.

Bless you for being so brave for yourself, your husband and your daughter. May you have sunshine every day.

May you and yours be protected all the days of your life. Amen

Oh man, this sounds like exactly like my mother! Once she continued to try and manipulate my children and repay people for things they did against her, which was all in her head obviously, that’s when I cut all contact. It’s been such a difficult journey and my mom was an absolute horror when my husband had stage IV cancer and she made sure she had no way to take care of me and my kids if husband passed(sole breadwinner). She sold my childhood home and emptied out my dads 401K all in the attempt to make sure she wouldn’t have to be responsible for us. So thankful that I’m making sure that my children do not have to endure her sadistic nature and constant manipulation. The Lord makes a way when there seems to be no way. ❤️

Because of the Asian culture, malignant narcissism of parents are prevalent but they have no name for it. A lot of children fall victim and lead very dysfunctional lives too and the cycle continues. "Saving face" is the rule so families does not discuss their dysfunctions. Not a lot of Asian children will dare to question much more confront their dysfunctional parents. It's really sad and dangerous to their psychological make up.

I could write a lot about my experiences, but let me tell you; I know exactly how you feel and why. I was lucky to have an opportunity to see through it when I was young enough to decide to not have any children and to break the vicious circle.

That careful listening is how they become an expert on you, and make it easier to exploit you.

Truth be told

Exactly! Just watch Meghan Markle with Harry....total facade!!

So true.. I started feeling his dead eyes staring at me..... They should not be part of this world. You can sense them smiling even sitting 1000 miles away at your pain and miserable life.

All serial killers, fraudsters, molesters, rapists... are malignant. Your ex likely had fantasies of doing evil things you can't even imagine. He likely did evil things you don't even know about. He was likely constantly on the edge, 1 second from putting your head through the drywall of your home.

They only live in their delusions.

They don't feel remorse, so it's easy for them to live with themselves. They also feel they have a right to these behaviors so they don't feel it's wrong to begin with.

It's MORE unsettling that so many people gave one access to the gd NUCLEAR CODES.

my dad too. Its really a nightmare beyond compare. We're lucky to be alive.

Yes, the Control. I'm 56, and he's 41---- yet he wanted to control Me and tell me how to behave.... ▶😀😳😳😁

I’ll be 32 in a few months... I just found out today my dad fits covert narcissist (I thought he wasn’t) and so far sounds like my mom fits malignant... (I thought she was covert)

Let it die alone.

Don’t know how you did it he must had your self esteem low, gaslighted & you scared

Right behind you at 14 years thank God you got out!

Prove that he was one and you Not labeling an a hole

Was!!!😉 So happy for you, keep healing and you did it be proud!

lucky you survived

These people live like their lives are a freaking movie 🎥. At the beginning, their dramatic existence is alluring and exciting, but beware, this is a warning ⚠️ sign.

omg

The goat: you aint a psycopath my friend. Psychopaths dont know they are disordered because they are emotionally arrested amongst other reasons. Tired of fake , attention seeking people claiming to be psychopaths. Please know these claims are fradulent or delusional.

Omg I’m so glad you’re okay

True, overlapping traits

Well done for finding a therapist who saw him for who imhe is. Most therapists are fooled by narcs.

@Gordon Fornow The low level idiot psychopath can get diagnosed in prison, the type that has an IQ of 95, and no impulse control, usually they are repeat offenders and end up getting diagnosed in prison with Anti social PD, how ever a diagnosis of Primary psychopathy is much harder to achieve, likely this woman's ex was given an ASPD diagnosis, but that doesn't guarantee he is psychopathic primarily, you can be a secondary psychopath for example, but not have the brain wiring for primary psychopathy, and you would still be given the ASPD label.

Omg, I thought it was only me who had my (now-ex) get Dx as antisocial; but by the time he admitted he'd been in therapy, and that was his Dx, he knew I was primed to not believe it. Five years out and still healing.

I’m sorry to here you had to go through that. I believe you because I dodged a bullet about 5 years ago. Met a woman who turned out to be cruel and narcissistic. The damage she did in a month to my brain with her bs affected me a lot. I dodged a bullet because fortunately for me she discarded me as soon as I questioned her lies.

I've been on parole for almost 4years now.i did my time of 18 years with a malignant Narcissist with ASPD. I have went full No Contact. You have to with these types ..I cant tell you how many times I have almost died by his hands. Diagnosed PTSD. MDD.GAD.and PD..I still watch my back and keep my guard up .he will always hate me.the one that got away!

How did you leave ?? I’m Stuck with an older brother who is this and he is so abusive I need help 😔

Report thier acts to the police, get a no contact order, even tho it will not stop them from stalking you, triangualiting you, get it on record, of you have to shoot them, you want this in the system, cover your ass! If you don't have a gun, get one from a son or your sons friend, trust me, someone will bring you a pistol when you tell them what he's doing, use it if you have to!

@@SharlenesJourney Hi BadAszShar, tell an adult authoritive figure that you trust and/or reach out to youth groups in your area and ask for leads to other resources if they cant help you.

I did no contact day 3 now he was sitting in my area by my home when I went to work I kept walking it's creepy I work grave yard so I'm very cautious going home early in the am he's sick 🤢 mentally psychopathic narcissist

and women ..

Amen girl!!

I am very happy for you! Stay strong and have healthy life!

The malignant narc I know is a pastor too. He preaches the Gospel while doing pretty much the opposite of whatever is said in the Bible. He's a pathological liar who is extremely arrogant & entitled, but knows how to play the humble pastor when it suits him. The level of duplicity is astounding.

Sounds like a Jonestown situation in the making. Fascinating how many narcissists find their hold on people in religion.

The False prophet narrative😅 reminds me of the Nation of Islam which Malcolm X left.

@@ldoe8731 I think to be aware of wolves in sheep's clothing that teach man has a part in salvation. Anything other than Jesus is from the devil

@@holyspark5438 two great descriptive words for MN! Especially “ominous.” That feeling of looming imminent danger that they use to intimidate those who can see through their faux faces and faux words and behaviors. When a person, no matter who they are, can steal your joy like that, you must get them out of your life.

Truly!!

@@kaylakramer7413 you have been to hell and back. Somehow your exhusband knew how to use the system and he played it well. You are lucky to be alive. I know you love your children and have fought so hard, but sometimes you have to make the choice to just leave. It sounds like your life is in danger. By fighting back with your ex, you are giving him oxygen that he thrives on. Pease consider going NO CONTACT with the NARCISSIST. Sending prayers from NY

@@kaylakramer7413 it's been 7 years for me and I still have "bad days". You have been through a lot. Try to document and record phone calls. If possible get a nanny cam. If he hurts you, call 911 and have him arrested. And give yourself time to grieve. You have been through a lot and SURVIVED!!!! It's okay to have a bad day. There will be many wonderful tomorrows. Try to take baby steps for now. Sending positivity from NY

Good for you to get out.

@@kaylakramer7413 I am praying for you Kayla. Jesus loves you so much. You are saved by his death, burial, and resurrection.

@@kaylakramer7413 Jesus came to save those broken things Kayla. My heart goes out to you.

Same here, my narc neighbor turned everyone just about in my community against me. I have no one to talk to about his narc behavior, because they have sided with him. I feel so alone, and I am tired. Interestingly, the neighbors that sided with the narc had problems with him also, and we would talk about it. Well, that all changed when the narc neighbors got them on his side

Went through the same thing! As extra as this sounds, try to restore these relationships if tou can. Print out articles on maglignant narcissist and triangulation and share it with people who sided with him. Or if you have their numbers, share this video or a video on narcissist triangulation. I know you probably don't want to appear "guilty"...but maybe some of these peiple will realize that you were the victim. His goal was to hurt and isolate you and you don't want to give him that power.

😎 is right. These evil little megalomaniac bullies need to be exposed for who and what they are: a danger to civil society.

Im going through that too and it hurts alot more than the realising he is a narc.

I'm currently going through the same situation, they're demons from the pit of hell.

My younger sibling did this.

Yes! Sibling abuse is a very real problem that is very much under recognized. It begins at a young age and becomes the habit or pattern for the affected relationship. It also serves in part to create then affirm the narrative for the individuals involved. The abuse develops over the years to become a multipurpose tool for the abuser. The abuser first deceived themselves into thinking that they are in the right because the abused must deserve the abuse or they wouldn’t have been abused..... and then the abused is made to feel guilty..... and then right becomes wrong and wrong becomes right and it’s a huge mess. Moral of the story: no one HAS to have a relationship with a family member when it is doing damage to one’s self. Go your own way and forge a life for yourself. Be your own best person that you can be with God’s help. Leave those bad dynamics alone requiring everyone to respect boundaries including one’s self.

I hear you Delisa, all of it. I too am still affected by it and reshaping my life and mind and health from it. I'm about to cut out my 73 year old step dad, he's the last of them. It's a frigging tornado isnt it. I hope you're doing well, and keeping God close to you. It's all ok. Keep well. Jack

Oh boy, this guy should be behind bars!

I thought my daughter in law of 3 years was covert until I saw this. She is here, and everything described is on point. Everything. Sometimes I pray that my son might actually wake up over the next couple of years and get out alive with his son. I am already No Contact and a 1000 miles away, because she has him thinking her unfounded lies might have some teeth to them. All she had to do was ask, but she would never. She'd rather believe her own projections as truth on others instead of herself.

@@jackgoodings Praying on it does work. You have to be willing to help yourself and keep the faith. The light cancels the dark and they are dark entities.

Pegasus 514 Amen Pegasus! In these situations a person must stay in prayer because God will deliver us and set us free from these demonic beings.

Yes neither did mine but let me try to talk to her about her feelings and thoughts and such! But in the end I was worthless lol she was talking about herself!

You have to think how absolutely tragic it is to walk in their shoes! It must be like living in a constant train wreck!!

We're a community here, you're not alone anymore. ♥

You're not alone

A thousand times over! This, unfortunately, is my father.

Sending you lots of love during your recovery from narcissistic abuse ❤

It sure is a long lonely road to recovery, but I'm determined.

This is my evil stepdad too. It is a nightmare and im sorry you are going through this

Sorry to both of you. ❤

These relationships do slowly kill. I wish you strength and support.

Leave!! Please, for your own mental and physical safety, you MUST leave!

Absolutely dangerous. One night we had a chat, and I was feeling she was talking a little bit strange, like acting. At the end i found out she was actually recording me, and tried to provoke me just to record it.

she stole my son, I don't think he will ever get out, she is evil.

My sister, EXACTLY.

My sister. ALL three traits plus sadism. I was her target due to taking away from her the "baby of the family" throne. Afterwards I dared entering adulthood thin whereas she was fat. I can't even begin to explain what I've been through and how much my rest family let me down in protecting me.

@@xrc7445 ABSOLUTELY! My little sister, same. She abused my folks to death.

@@xrc7445 this really hits for me. The family doesn't seem to see it no matter how obvious it is, they just think you're being too sensitive because the abuse is so crafty and subtle. I rarely come across other people who have also suffered from having a narc sister.

@@xrc7445 this sounds interesting- I wonder if it was like my experience

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Never watched it but always felt like it was a mysogynistic film endorsing emotional violence and pathology.

Who watches that crap? 😳

Good point...

Oh yes I saw a little of the first but never till end, it disgusted me, not because of the sex but I dont like Mr. Grey

…This! ❤️👏

My heart hurts upon reading that! Evil people will be done away with. Especially when the victims are disadvantaged. Hope you heal😔

Would love that. That is my dad and he has an advanced degree in psychology. He’s 82 now. I’m about to turn 50. I’m a psychiatrist. You’d think he’d be proud...nope...”you have always been in competition with me”. Long history of emotionally and verbally abusing me and my wife (not to mention my mom...his long term enabler) and then threatening my wife. He is not allowed in our home and only allowed to see my daughter in a public place.

Make a plan. Find a supportive person such as a therapist. Go live your life in peace.

That book, is a perfect example.

My mom has some traits in common with the Beldam too.

Get out as soon as you can...your life is very precious!! Namaste ❤

Get away hon, she'll worsen!

My God. Is there some legal help that you can get? This is more than horrible.

Marie Rose I filed a suitcase for theft at the local police station. They investigated with him and he was out of jail the next day for the absence of evidence that he attacked me and stole my belongings. I also filed for divorce and the patriarchal judge rejected my request for divorce even with a report from the hospital and police station where he admitted to the domestic violence. The judge said all that beating I endured while pregnant was “disciplinary” for a wife!!!! Are we living in the medieval period or the 21st century? So you can imagine where he gets all his power from. The law itself is against women here.

@@Pittsa86 Do you live in the USA?

The so called justice system enables these people!

I feel the exact same way as you! It is like a lightbulb. I never heard of this type but this is exactly what my ex is like and so scary. I am asking the judge for a lifetime OFP after our children grow up...not exaggerating. He harasses me so badly with a court case coming in July. Imagine what it will be like after, and he knows every text is submitted to court!

me too. ex husband. takes years to get over it.

Same here, this video was finally a bingo for me.

I’m sorry you had to experience that kind of mind fuck. I wish you the best in your recovery. You deserved better.

I’m sorry you had to experience that kind of mind fuck. I wish you the best in your recovery. You deserved better.

Exactly. People watch reality shows where the biggest narc is rewarded along with social media influencers who get rich being shallow and self centered.

If you really believe he might harm or kill you when he gets out, start taking protective measures now. These are the kind of men who are capable of killing a former partner. If you're reading his letters, you are NOT actually no contact, and he knows where you live. Move if you can. I'm serious. Protect yourself. Please.

@@genevalawrence801 Good advice. These people are demons!

Yikes.

I would suggest you move and do not let him have access to your address. He will return.

Did he attack you out of the blue? My ex has never been violent towards me but I'm beginning to wonder if it's possible that he could harm me in retaliation to me leaving him. I'm refusing to come home but I worry that once he realises I'm definitely not coming back (because I give him the divorce papers) that he will really lash out

You might want to watch Dr. Ramani's commentary about the movie "The Invisible Man" - she talks about this type of behavior and how the movie tracks with the real life experience with some of us. And then either watch the movie, which you will understand on a whole different level than most folks, or avoid it because it would be triggering as hell.

proper weirdo, it’s horrendous, I would shower in the pitch black darkness incase of cameras, he once came up the stairs and went berserk that I was doing this,,, which confirmed it for me. My family and friends thought I was going mad too, you feel so alone

Geneva Lawrence, i will catch Dr Ramani’s video on this, but watching the Invisible man would freak me out, I watched a soap opera with a narc doing these things and I started having a panic attack, I have some ptsd now that won’t let me face the full horror properly.

Wow. That is some extra messed up shenanigans. Just wow.

Geneva Lawrence this is the thing, i get anxious about watching videos about covert spying, i'm not sure i'm ready to face that yet

Jolly 100% agreed. I am the child of one such person, and I really really wish that these people won't produce more children like me who just get broken over and over and suffer throughout their entire lives.

@@nyar2352 My heart goes out to you. I hope you will find healing very soon and that it will last forever.

Poor kids

@@nyar2352 I'm sorry to hear of the abuse you've been subjected to. I'm glad you found this channel, and I hope you find others that can assist you in your healing. Agreed. I know some nasty folks who refuse to have children. "That's fantastic!" I think to myself. We don't want such folks to harm helpless children.

​@@zbeh4495 Seriously. Fortunately, the healthy spouse was foresighted enough to intervene and mitigate much of the narcissist's toxic, radioactive energy.

Nope!!

shilpa patil I think, it's up to us, the ones, who know about it, to find solutions, protect each other and to ask politions to discuss and find solutions how to protect the society of them and to give a high compensation pension to the victims...

Antarctica is probably mostly good

Might be BUT if you’re unlucky you’ll be stuck in Close proximity, with no escape for 12 months. SCARY

good decision on your part. super proud.

I think narcs in general, are chameleons when going from one extreme to the next in some cases. However, maligs have extreme anger and control issues than other narcs. They can become very combative and vicious

@@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807 One thing is sure that they will cause drama and fighting with a partner involving other people and not feel any real remorse. They can start a real shitstorm with real damage and act like they didn't do anything. And the crazy thing is the trauma bonded partner will overlook all of it and allow it. That's why if you want to survive and heal from this abuse you have to go no contact to be able to get your head straight.

@@abby2943 Yes i really had to dig deep down and find the strength to get away. I was trauma bonded and allowing the narc to abuse me and i was allowing it. It just finally got bad enough that all i thought about was how i was going to get away from her. Narcissists are not to be played with, they will find your weaknesses and destroy you.

My ex (who is 21 years older) would push for marriage and the more he talked about it( everyday), the more financially, verbally, physically, mentally, and emotionally abusive he would get..

I hope you are OK❤

@Elizabeth Collier I can have utmost respect for their knowledge, however that isnt the basis of my respect. My respect is based on how they use the knowledge.

A part of me is like this and it is the definition of demonic

They are

My mom was abused by my malignant narcissist father. I remember she used to call him evil and she wasn't wrong.

They truly are.

They are. They also seem to have a demonic look about them. Especially when they smile.

Looks like much of your your life, as you describe it, was poisoned by numerous, maybe different kind of narcs... which makes me ask: why so many of them lined up to get you? Why did you let the second, third, etc. Narc in your life? Wasnt one enough? If I were you, I would ask myself that question before I dial tel. # of a good therapist.

Poor you sugar, I hope you never ever get abused again. Just incredible crap spewers.

You have to go to a therapist and heal your self before you ever again engage in any kind of relationships. Because you are like a magnet for a narcissist, maybe because you are an empath, maybe because the first narc lowered your self esteem. Either way you need professional help - believe me, I know what I'm talking about! God bless you!

@@riverdance8623 Thank you for your concern. Yes, I am an empath. I attended therapy for 2 years after Relationship #2. But, I didn't know what a narcissist was at that time. The treaty helped me out of severe depression. I am much stronger now, but still suffer anxiety.

@@riverdance8623 I agree. But, I would extend this to another level: this should apply not only to victims of an abusive, for example narcissistic relationship .... I believe this principle should apply to the situation when someone ends a failed relationship. One should re-evaluate this relationship, his/her emotional wellbeing, his/her goals in life, particularly those in building another relationship .... sometimes, healing is necessary.... for that, a friend can help to a certain degree, but, also, nowadays, therapy and counseling might be more effective ... One has to wrap up, in order to start from anew ....

I believe that is the only way we survive a narc family and not turn out like them. We are empaths, and from a very early age our narcissist parent’s behavior is very off to us. We learn to love them and comply but never respect. We live in confusion of why they cannot love us how our friends parents love them. And I strongly agree with “My spirit will always override” because we know it is wrong and somehow we believe in love and normal healthy relationships still exist.

Nailed it.

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Yes our issue is projecting (seeing ourselves in them) onto them that which is in us and is absolutely nothing that they contain. We are only reflected back what they can mock, not truly feel.