Very good review again! However 13°c Inside temperature is unacceptable. I think the company will receive many complaints about that and rightly so 😂.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
It’s really cold on board. Can’t wait for summer. Then it’s probably too hot 😂😂
@axeljonsson1515 ай бұрын
It's one of the ways they are trying to save up enough electric range
@Uliio5 ай бұрын
@@axeljonsson151 I understand that, but the work environment for the driver is important as well. Can't expect someone to sit in the cold for 8 hours a day.
@MainCamp_Norway5 ай бұрын
@@UliioThe temperature inside the cab can get really hot if the driver wants it, however the passenger section will often be cold.
@Uliio5 ай бұрын
Ah that's good. I thought the compartment for the driver was also colder :).@@MainCamp_Norway
@Frallan1658 күн бұрын
Here in Gothenburg, Sweden we have a couple lines with this bus. It's a little shorter with three doors and less screns. We also have up to 100% electric in the city but the rest of the lines are either volvo buses or trams. The only scenarios where there are diesel buses are the lines that travel a long way between cities or if we run out of electric buses (Malfunctioning, many of them have problems with the doors not closing or opening). Great video!
@jokka835 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it is a bad idea to have 13c in the busses. Who wants to take the bus then? I also think it goes the other way in the summer when they are not running the A/C
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Really horrible with that temperature
@My_viev5 ай бұрын
I love❤ this bus very much!!! Waiting for Lions intercity LE 14 review.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! The 14LE would have been very interesting to test 😁
@endorsemorse33915 ай бұрын
13 degrees is stupid. For example you could have webasto diesel heater, 0,3 liters of HVO100 per hour. Totally carbon neutral.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Yep! But, this destroys the earth! (At least, what Norwegian politicians believe 😂😂😂)
@billmcdonald02565 ай бұрын
Hi 👋 Magne & Tom Nice MAN bus .. I like you to revist these Buses one year from now & see how they are getting along.. Other transit properties Will be watching there progress 😬 to see how they fair in the day to day.. Thankyou Tom & Magne 🚎
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea! Thanks for a great feedback
@marvalbrankoturk18695 ай бұрын
Great video of a great bus!
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Thanks for great response 😁
@mistaspliff5 ай бұрын
The box Tom is complaining about contains one of the electric motors. They are not out in the wheel hubs.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Good to know!
@TomTerjesen5 ай бұрын
Yes, I know that now. When we did the video I was convinced that it was the 2xZF engine in-hub axel. But got new information after. My mistake.
@autocracy-state-hater3 ай бұрын
760v 640kwh battery🔋+2*160kW double electric motors drive two axles+pure 🇪🇺European brand=very powerful bus🚌👍
@bussmagasinet13 ай бұрын
It really is 😁😁
@derekantill37215 ай бұрын
An excellent bus. 18 meters arti driving 2 axles must be hard on the power supply in the dark during the winter months.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
It’s a really great vehicle! (When infrastructure is working and can provide power to the buses)
@chuayx75725 ай бұрын
That is a surprise - didn't know the 18e is driven by the two rear axles.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
MAN makes those vehicles! Just brilliant 😁
@chuayx75725 ай бұрын
@@bussmagasinet1 you guys saw the right hand drive unit for #electrifyingSG on social media? It's our turn 😁
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
@@chuayx7572nice 😁😁😁
@lawrencefan69335 ай бұрын
Great video, love the channel! Would love to see you review the Hess buses from Switzerland.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Would absolutely LOVE to make a Hess video!
@kebabaluba5 ай бұрын
In Stavanger electric busses from Volvo use diesel powered webasto to keep the heat up. They are supposed to use heating rods but that consumes battery, thus shorter range. But Oslo`s stupid politicians have phobia against diesel so i`m not surprised these new MAN busses have no webasto to keep the heat up.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
True! Why let people that know buses make the bus orders. No. Make politicians make that order… hahaha
@user-vs3mb4dw8g3 ай бұрын
AND NEW MAN LIONS CAOCH ELETRIC THIS YEAR THANKS YOU
@bussmagasinet13 ай бұрын
You have contact MAN for this
@UHarshanBlackBoy19955 ай бұрын
Nice bus! But only the articulated version of the MAN electric buses of the new generation is more cute than other versions. Because the other versions of these generation are hot.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
These are beautiful buses!
@UHarshanBlackBoy19955 ай бұрын
@@bussmagasinet1 Yes, thank you very much and you are welcome! 🙂
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Welcome 😁
@SebastianD3345 ай бұрын
I love these busses, but why did they enter service with all 76 at the same time, instead of staggering them, it seems like if you have unforeseen problems they would affect the whole fleet.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
That’s the tender system… All buses starts at the same time. Not good for anyone. But, that’s how it is…
@Joukkoliikenteenkuvaaja5 ай бұрын
im waiting for those for hsl
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Hope they will come
@Boterberg5 ай бұрын
Nice Magne and Tom. Havent seen one in real life, and very nice we get the info we want. When is your next visit to Belgium?
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Glad to hear! Actually! Me (Magne) will probably have a visit already in the beginning of April! 😁
@Boterberg5 ай бұрын
@@bussmagasinet1 let me know if you need a ride Magne!
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
@@Boterberg find us on Instagram, and let’s see if we can meet up!
@jaakkoiswatching64375 ай бұрын
Drivers tend to leave the retarder/regen lever in wrong position. That's why city busses don't usually have the lever. Retarding/regeneration still does happen, by using the brake pedal or lifting the accelerator
@axeljonsson1515 ай бұрын
MAN has an electronic retarder lever, it goes automatically to 0 when the gas is pushed. It doesn't have physical notches like ex. Scania
@TomTerjesen5 ай бұрын
I still prefer the physical handle and that is exactly what we are talking about. I don't want it on the pedal, because most of the time you can have a longer range on an electric bus if it can roll out. The rest is about training, learning the driver to drive correctly.
@jaakkoiswatching64375 ай бұрын
@@axeljonsson151Hopefully to A, not 0.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Very true! And, this is also the case for this bus. But, no retarder from the lever
@axeljonsson1515 ай бұрын
@@jaakkoiswatching6437 If you mean "A" as in automatic retarder with the brake pedal, then yes
@tipi49235 ай бұрын
How about the articulation mechanism. I dislike if it makes a lot creak and squeaking. Was it silent enough?
@jaakkoiswatching64375 ай бұрын
Completely silent in the MAN I've driven elsewhere.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Very quiet
@crabbymilton3905 ай бұрын
Looks sharp. I still don’t trust EV’s Granted in this application it may work just fine. Snow and road salt doesn’t play well with complex electronics and electrical components. Still very interesting and informative.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Thanks for a good comment! I agree 😉
@koolmusiks1735Ай бұрын
Does this bus really have electric ramps? Because they just look like normal ramps😅
@bussmagasinet1Ай бұрын
Just normal ramps. Easy, and cheap.
@iamthouth5 ай бұрын
Magne; lightning=lyn, lighting=lys
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Did I say wrong? Hahahaha 😂😂😂
@xqqrnzx13_v5 ай бұрын
Because of MAN's advanced technology, the owner of those red buses and people of Oslo feel better to be kind to Earth. Until they are launched, Norwegian vehicle users had to use petrol/diesel fuel for use.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
A perfect example of political brilliance 🚌
@OleksiySamar4 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@bussmagasinet14 ай бұрын
😁😁
@norwegianpromos87505 ай бұрын
Hva er rekkevidden?
@jannorgaard5615 ай бұрын
200-300 km er beregnet rekkevidde en buss kan kjøre på én ladning.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Som skrevet under 😁
@norwegianpromos87505 ай бұрын
@@jannorgaard561I overkant av hva Solaris-bussene kan kjøre altså. Litt spent på hvor mye 4x4 spiser opp av rekkevidden, egentlig.
@svenskenh6445 ай бұрын
I disagree with you: 13 degrees is enough. As a passenger you have your outdoor clothing on. The big problem with electric city busses is that all heat disappears through the doors at every stop. Most electric busses maintain their heat with an extra diesel heater which has no cleaning what so ever of the exhausts. The result is an electric bus that is worse to the local environment than the diesel or biogas bus it replaced.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
You’re the first I ever hear that is okay with the 13 degrees 😁😂 Then the buses will have at least one happy passenger 😂 Hahahaha! That’s great!
@espenlia76575 ай бұрын
Det tullet med att det ikke skal være mer enn 13 grader inne må de slutte med bare..Huttetu.
@norwegianpromos87505 ай бұрын
Det har de også gjort. Det er vel rundt 18 grader på bussene nå, tror jeg. Bærer riktignok ikke termostat, men litt kjøligere enn innetemperatur, men godt over 13 grader.
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Ganske grusomt, ja!
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
Det er da enda godt!
@furkanpusal425 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video. It made my day a little better. Man Lion's City E is a truly magnificent vehicle. If I go to Oslo one day, I would definitely like to ride it. Man Lion's City CNG EfficentHybrid model is used in Konya Turkey and everyone likes it very much. I hope one day the electric version will also be purchased. If you come to Turkey, I will wait a day. There are many buses to be videoed here. 😊 A little video from the delivery day:kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndaPktWbt6vIo58.htmlfeature=shared
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
So glad to make your day 😁 That’s so nice to hear! We are coming to BusWorld Turkey in May. We are really excited 😁😁 I’ll check out the video!
@nose106205 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@bussmagasinet15 ай бұрын
😁😁
@koolmusiks1735Ай бұрын
13 degrees is totally unacceptable... MAN just is to late with there electric buses. Just look at Solaris oder Ebusco, they can reach longer distances without 13 degrees... Such a shame...
@bussmagasinet1Ай бұрын
This is not MAN's decision. This is Ruter, the PTA in Oslo