Manchester 2022 - John Cleese’s speech to the SDP Conference - with an Introduction by Rod Liddle.

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Social Democratic Party (SDP)

Social Democratic Party (SDP)

Жыл бұрын

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@georgemather9082
@georgemather9082 Жыл бұрын
It’s fantastic to see the SDP getting bigger and stronger by the day. We need a radical alternative both culturally and economically and so far I haven’t seen a plan better than the SDPs. Keep up the good work.
@nowherepeople3431
@nowherepeople3431 Жыл бұрын
100 percent agree.
@helensmith2411
@helensmith2411 Жыл бұрын
First I’ve heard of them and I’m sold, but the sdp does sound similar to snp, first I see on gb news thought it was a Scottish branch off, 😂 John Cleese=legend
@marissashantez6051
@marissashantez6051 Жыл бұрын
just make sure to have election pacts with all other conservative parties, or. they will divide and conquer you all like in Canada.
@kieran5191
@kieran5191 Жыл бұрын
@@helensmith2411 snp are completely woke.
@helensmith2411
@helensmith2411 Жыл бұрын
@@kieran5191 sdp-snp sounds alike, not politically
@1LordBudge
@1LordBudge Жыл бұрын
I had no idea SDP existed. Anything is better than conservatives or labour at this point
@davidbettney785
@davidbettney785 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see one of Britain's legends, supporting the SDP.
@georgeallen7101
@georgeallen7101 Жыл бұрын
The real John Clease ! What a great and knowledgeable man he is . A national treasure!
@Red__Law
@Red__Law Жыл бұрын
Great speech from one of our very best national treasures.
@sbor2020
@sbor2020 Жыл бұрын
Rod Liddle? Oh ... you mean John Cleese!!
@repentbeforeitstoolate..8239
@repentbeforeitstoolate..8239 Жыл бұрын
@@nickvandermeer .NO. national disgrace. 😑 not seen the blasphemer for decades .old man now. 😠
@clivefrear1784
@clivefrear1784 Жыл бұрын
Very succinctly put by John Cleese. We, the electorate, must vote for who we wish to see in power - not either Tory or Labour in a desperate attempt to stop the worst of the pair winning! I would like to see the SDP form an alliance with Reform as I feel there is much needed talent and great ideas within both parties
@TheTeethgrinder
@TheTeethgrinder Жыл бұрын
Political nomad here. An excellent speech by John Cleese, plus a great preamble from Rod Liddle 👍 Until we have PR, I hope SDP can be part of a "Custodian's Coalition" with other small parties to usurp Cons/Labour and bring about sensible (slightly silly) change...
@bertphillips8930
@bertphillips8930 Жыл бұрын
These guys need more exposure. I have always voted conservative but I cant do that anymore and Labour will never be an option. And even though I don't go along with all the views, I can certainly relate and get behind most. Says it all about the media when this conference was not even mentioned on the news as far as I can tell.
@NK-vd8xi
@NK-vd8xi Жыл бұрын
I'd agree, but next election I'd vote against the Tories to make sure Proportional Representation gets in, and then I can always vote SDP as first choice.
@musiqueetmontagne
@musiqueetmontagne Жыл бұрын
Thank you John, what a great advocate for the party. Well done!
@AngusTuttle
@AngusTuttle Жыл бұрын
A good listen, with a few good gags, and a good few points, well made. A quarter of an hour well spent.
@JWNOSNHOJ
@JWNOSNHOJ Жыл бұрын
When Rod Liddle mentioned in an article that he had joined the SDP I decided to investigate this party who I thought were extinct. I was a member of the Labour party many years ago but now wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. I voted Tory at the 2019 election to get Brexit done and immigration sorted.The policies of the SDP are in my opinion about right, that is non woke social conservatism allied with sensible centrist economic policies or the mixed economy as I believe Roy Jenkins once described it.
@robbiegerard7857
@robbiegerard7857 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for answering my question before i typed it, for a moment I thought it was bringing Jo Swinson back with her undemocratic 2nd referendum etc. Reform party has been my only choice until today, but, we cant be sure every constituency will have a candidate, this helps.
@Hartley_Hare
@Hartley_Hare Жыл бұрын
'Get Brexit done'. Good heavens.
@JWNOSNHOJ
@JWNOSNHOJ Жыл бұрын
@@Hartley_Hare Yes it was rather optimistic of me!
@bingolittle8725
@bingolittle8725 Жыл бұрын
John Cleese is a fine chap.
@repentbeforeitstoolate..8239
@repentbeforeitstoolate..8239 Жыл бұрын
No he certainly is not!. He's disgusting.
@roberthudson3386
@roberthudson3386 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the SDP plan to stand candidates in the next general election?
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez Ай бұрын
Yes they do, but I haven't heard anyone standing in my seat yet for SDP wh in socks because I want to vote for them.
@Horizon344
@Horizon344 Жыл бұрын
England increasingly requires a REFERENDUM on Foreign Migration...
@nickbrown9757
@nickbrown9757 7 күн бұрын
"Bumping into an old friend you thought was dead" My thoughts exactly. I thought the SDP had disappeared with the formation of the LibDems. Glad to see they're still about and, even better, are fielding a candidate in my constituency 🙂 #VoteSDP
@MrGraemeb2022
@MrGraemeb2022 Жыл бұрын
SDP - The Thinking Person's Party
@aineomalley6431
@aineomalley6431 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. As a human species to grow and move forward we need criticism and be able for it too. He is so right. All these young so called woke people who sue,cancel and silence people for hurting their feelings need to grow up and get ready for the real world. Everyone born pre 2000 grew up with the slogan 'sticks and stones break my bones but names will never hurt me'.
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 Жыл бұрын
Or was it
@harri2626
@harri2626 Жыл бұрын
Good heavens. I was a founder member back in those giddy days when the SDP were going to sweep the board pre-Falklands. We still need an SDP, and I seriously hope it can become a credible force for change again. I lost faith in the SDP when David Owen broke away from the Alliance with the Liberals - ruining the opportunity of a credible third party to this very day. I will research more about the SDP and, if I like it, I may rejoin.
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 Жыл бұрын
Quite similar here. Back then I was recruited into the original SDP, and it did encourage many of us to become involved in elections etc. Dropped out when it merged with the Liberal Party, though. Can you remember that there was (briefly) a “real SDP” organised by those who didn’t like the alliance/merger? Perhaps the new one should be called the “Resurrected SDP”!. Of course, the snag in the UK is the FPTP election system, within which internal reformation is more likely to succeed. That is to say, neither the Tory nor Labour Parties are as they were a few decades ago. They are surreptitious partys, in effect.
@Daniel-deMerrivale
@Daniel-deMerrivale Жыл бұрын
I have just joined the SDP. Whilst in favour of a (sensible) co-operative with smaller parties, should the SDP become allied again with the Liberals I will move elsewhere. My view is there is no difference between tory, labour or liberal policies. I have to also disagree with Mr Cleese that the call me Dave / Clegg axis was free of corruption. I recall a newly appointed (liberal) minister at that time resigning almost as he was appointed for (as usual) expenses “oversights”.
@JasonCunliffe
@JasonCunliffe Жыл бұрын
0:00 Intro 4:44 John Cleese
@DK-ee6qt
@DK-ee6qt Жыл бұрын
Hope you guys can get more support
@2ShadesOfGray
@2ShadesOfGray Жыл бұрын
A legend
@randomroses1494
@randomroses1494 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there have been several referendums on Proportional Representation and the electorate voted against introducing it. The last one was on May 5th 2011.
@johnallen-xi8rx
@johnallen-xi8rx Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@JosipRadnik1
@JosipRadnik1 Жыл бұрын
I am Swiss so I usually do the swiss thing which is neutrality towards foreign political affairs. Nevertheless I dare to intervene for once and say that John Cleese made a good point about proportional representation. In my opinion, this is really a thing that prevents other parties but the biggest two from growing and therefor keeps an unhealthy large proportion of the population without propper representation. Very much like the US, where the only "choice" you have on the ballot is between "horrible" and "even worse".
@bibsteenson
@bibsteenson Жыл бұрын
I had no idea the party was still going. Do they have candidates?
@GrilloTheFlightless
@GrilloTheFlightless Жыл бұрын
“That rather gobby lady with a dead fox on her head”. I’m sorry, but this is what’s wrong with politics in the world today. Don’t get me wrong - I really don’t like Angela Rayner at all. In fact, I find her to be a symptom of the same problem I see here. You see, politics should be about each party telling us what they can do for the country, and to opposition has a role to ‘call out’ whoever is in power and hold them to account for their mistakes. But personal insults for the sake of making people laugh is cheap and tawdry. I remember seeing a billboard poster from the Labour Party many years ago with Margaret Thatcher’s hair superimposed onto William Hague’s bald head. Not long before that was the infamous ‘Bambi’ poster with Blaire’s head superimposed onto a deers body, courtesy of the Tories. We had it with Angela Rayner’s rather unprofessional ‘Tory Scum’ remarks not that long ago. And we have it here. It has absolutely nothing to do with politics and I despise it. I thought the SDP were better than that, but clearly I was wrong.
@c.philipmckenzie
@c.philipmckenzie Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, sadly. John, you forgot the reformation of the upper house in your closing statement. 2 elected reps per county on six year terms?
@pipster1891
@pipster1891 Жыл бұрын
Hands up who thought the SDP still existed? Introduced by Liddle Rod, it looks like they're up for a rematch wih the Monster Raving Loonies.
@davidpalk5010
@davidpalk5010 Жыл бұрын
Just looked at their website. Still can't make out what they stand for or what real change they could offer.
@jakatta69
@jakatta69 Жыл бұрын
Cranks
@LibertyActionMovement
@LibertyActionMovement Жыл бұрын
Liberty Action Movement. Universal Basic income, Repeal drugs law, Police accountability board, Scrap the bankrupt NHS, Peoples Bank. Time for big changes
@robdegoyim4023
@robdegoyim4023 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Mr Cleese passed through Moss Side on his way in?
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge Жыл бұрын
Very good. Would the SDP like to discuss our process and plan for equality? Ie, the plan for Co-operative Socialism.
@markriding1267
@markriding1267 Жыл бұрын
nSDaP the difference a couple of letters make.....or do they? 🤔😉
@decibel_tastic2869
@decibel_tastic2869 Жыл бұрын
NB: France uses First-past-the-post with 2 rounds for its parliamentary and presidential elections.
@publius1252
@publius1252 Жыл бұрын
Ditch the keys from the pocket. Very distracting. Otherwise, not bad.
@mrmojosrisen7514
@mrmojosrisen7514 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to his new stint on GB news.
@lionsmane7669
@lionsmane7669 Жыл бұрын
MR Cleese's comments about the press would have made more sense if he'd been talking about the BBC and any other state finded outlet. But he was talking about the press generally. To which the obvious answer is if you don't like what it's saying don't buy it. Market forces and all that.
@indricotherium4802
@indricotherium4802 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why everyone thinks of the British media as set in stone. If the centre and the left don't have enough media on their side, they must bring into being more outlets that will be.
@edmund184
@edmund184 11 ай бұрын
8:56 if first past the post would elect an SDP government John would be against PR
@edmund184
@edmund184 11 ай бұрын
it's great that John wants PR to clamp down on extremists. If PR were with us in 2015 UKIP would have had 81 MPs
@richjones4956
@richjones4956 Жыл бұрын
Free Speech ..Referendum on Immigration.
@richjones4956
@richjones4956 Жыл бұрын
Referendum on Immigration.
@JckSwan
@JckSwan Жыл бұрын
Oh goody, another lefty option.
@Jake_5693
@Jake_5693 Жыл бұрын
They’re culturally to the right and economically to the left. Funnily enough that’s usually the way the vast majority of people in this country like to vote and would do if they had the option.
@BenQotsa
@BenQotsa Жыл бұрын
i thought the sdp dissovled
@jeffbridges666
@jeffbridges666 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Io-Io-Io
@Io-Io-Io Жыл бұрын
What you mean 'Cleese' - it's 'Cheese' 😁
@NuYiDao
@NuYiDao Жыл бұрын
Crooked players are not in need of capabilty coaching. PR ensures argument-losers & stick-in-the-muds form into government. And pundits are like lighthouses to avoid catastrophe not to say, 'told you so' after the wreck.
@roberthudson3386
@roberthudson3386 Жыл бұрын
The thing about PR is that a small party has to join government with larger parties and make comrpomises on its policies too, and isn't generally a true kingmaker in every election, unless there are only three parties. Of course we can just carry on with the status quo where a political elite basically decides we have mass migration (not supported by a majority), cultural brainwashing (not supported by a majority), privatisation/commercialisation of everything (not supported by a majority) and the transformation of Britain into the 51st state (not supported by a majority and also completely treasonous!)
@trevorstanding6462
@trevorstanding6462 Жыл бұрын
Check out Volt UK a new political party.
@888ssss
@888ssss Жыл бұрын
he is an odd man. hounded out of the uk by woke left wing press, he come back and speaks at their conference ?
@kieran5191
@kieran5191 Жыл бұрын
Their motto is “family, community, nation”. That’s not woke.
@johnweir9639
@johnweir9639 Жыл бұрын
Just couldn't ever vote for a party with the word 'social' in its name. It's 3 letters separated from the worst and most deadly word in the human vocabulary. Voting for them would be far too close to comfort for me.
@timfallon8226
@timfallon8226 Жыл бұрын
Std ?
@thomridgeway1438
@thomridgeway1438 Жыл бұрын
Dose the SDP support working class people, and the families of working class people, because I know darn' well The Labour Party doesn't.
@GrenvilleP710
@GrenvilleP710 Жыл бұрын
I can't support anything with the word Social or socialist in the title.
@ThisIsJamesL
@ThisIsJamesL Жыл бұрын
Pointless
@Steve-yx1xj
@Steve-yx1xj Жыл бұрын
I'd regard my politics as social democrat. I'm a 64 year old Python fan. BUT couldn't get past Liddle's dreadful introduction. Sorry.
@LibertyActionMovement
@LibertyActionMovement Жыл бұрын
Liberty Action Movement. Universal Basic income, Repeal drugs law, Police accountability board, Scrap the bankrupt NHS, Peoples Bank. Time for big changes
@venusflytrap909
@venusflytrap909 Жыл бұрын
I agree a lot with Rod and Johns views, however I do feel the word 'Social' in the party title is equated to 'Socilaism' by many who may pugeon hole you as communists.. ...unfortunately I will never be onboard with any party that wants to commit ecoomic suicide and join the unelected clowns in the EU......explain the economic sense of getting less out than you invest !
@FiveLiver
@FiveLiver Жыл бұрын
I rather think John feels the enemy is 'the Tories'; it's not, it's 'woke' and whoever wants to be wokest.
@venusflytrap909
@venusflytrap909 Жыл бұрын
I feel people got bored with 'political correctness' so they morphed the concept into 'Woke'....
@FiveLiver
@FiveLiver Жыл бұрын
@@venusflytrap909 Yes, politically correct or cultural Marxism (some call it liberalism but that confuses issues), served up with globalist control. The Tories are meant to be a defence against this, but are happy not just to tag along, but - since Cameron - trail blaze for the cause. Ultimately it is antiwhitism.
@Pensivata
@Pensivata Жыл бұрын
I hate the main 3 parties - like Rod Liddle (think he talks a lot of sense). Would even consider voting SDP - only drawback is - it's socialism, isn't it? The ideology which brought us 100m dead last century. Free market capitalism - as opposed to crony capitalism, or corporatism (which FMC is often confused with) - has got to be the fairest system around. In other words, capitalism good, socialism evil. (I mean - who put the Z in Nazi eh?). Just saying.
@RMT192
@RMT192 Жыл бұрын
Look you. Social democrats are still free market capitalists they just believe in sensible robust taxation to achieve what the markets can't. Saying capitalism is good, socialism is evil is as dumb as saying socialism has no capital and capitalism has no taxation. In other words things aren't black and white - capitalism and socialism have a huge amount of overlap and to not see that is idiotic. Ps: democratic Socialism didn't result in any atrocities and the happiest countries in the world are the Scandinavian all of which are called democratic socialists even though they are still capitalist societies (as all capitalist societies must have a social sector in order to function). It's a matter of the policies and not labelling as no doubt the country you live in could easily be defined as either socialist or capitalist unless you live in North Korea.
@Jj-ff9vq
@Jj-ff9vq Жыл бұрын
You need to read their manifesto mate....they are not socialists because "social" is in the name.
@Pensivata
@Pensivata Жыл бұрын
@@RMT192 Thanks for your input. You raise some fair points. It's just the "democratic Socialism didn't result in any atrocities" I find a bit hard to swallow. Hitler was a democratically elected socialist.. so that axiom doesn't seem like much of a safeguard against atrocities..
@Jj-ff9vq
@Jj-ff9vq Жыл бұрын
@@Pensivata what can you see in their policies / manifesto that suggests national socialism? I suppose their official Buy British policy you could say is? Lowering basic and higher rate tax and increasing the very top tax band? If that's national socialism then i'm all for it.
@Pensivata
@Pensivata Жыл бұрын
@@Jj-ff9vq Yes, indeed. There is a popular misconception that national socialism = the Nazis. Expansionist socialism - ultimately leading to international socialism - is arguably a far worse phenomenon - George Orwell warned about this in 1984 - a socialist himself, he became reviled by the left for this very view. Whereas socialism within national limits - indeed, it doesn't necessarily mean Himmler type figures will come to the fore. Indeed, the irony of Hitler's national socialism was that it ended up metastasising beyond its borders into a 'Reich' - aka an empire - of which he saw himself the holy roman emperor.
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