Manual Torpedo Targeting with Sonar (SH4), part 2

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HalfjackHJ

HalfjackHJ

13 жыл бұрын

I finally get to the meat of the tracking and attacking. Using sonar pings we find the range and bearing of the unidentified vessel, then using some simple equations we track him, get his speed and course, then blow his ass out of the water.
The equation used to determine speed is as follows:
d / t * 60 ---- Distance over Time multiplied by sixty.
Each Nautical mile is 2025 yards.The enemy vessel traveled 2550 yards in 15 minutes.
2550 / 15 = 170
170 * 60 = 10200
10200 / 2025 = 5.03 or ~5

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@Jrande2003
@Jrande2003 2 жыл бұрын
For the most part this was very accurate, also typically 3 minutes is used as a rule of thumb rather than 5
@american_cosmic
@american_cosmic Жыл бұрын
Why 3 instead of 5? Any particular practical reason?
@Pancke
@Pancke 8 жыл бұрын
Better late than never but great vid! Have played SH3 in the past, tried SH5 (didn't like it too much) and now jumped into SH4. Learning all the things again as i go and your tutorial has been really helpful! thanks for that ;)
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 8 жыл бұрын
+Yuri Janssen I'm glad to hear that, and thank you for the comment.
@RamblinRick_
@RamblinRick_ 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing this video. I'm just getting back into SH4 after a three year hiatus. So, instructional videos like yours are great. I would not have thought of attacking without a periscope. Yet, the proof is in the video. Also, I suggest that instead of 5-minute intervals, use 3 minutes or multiples thereof. Then, measure the distance between the points (in yards) and divide by 100. That provides the target's speed in knots. If you use 6-minute intervals, then divide by 100, then divide by 2.
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind comment and advice. If you look at some of my later SHIV videos, I have indeed adopted that method. Another helpful commenter here taught it to me, and it has made my world a lot easier. For example, check out the longest shot I've ever made, and ignore that I'm shamelessly advertising myself. Silent Hunter IV, Dick O'Kane Method (8,600 yard attack), Part 1
@RamblinRick_
@RamblinRick_ 10 жыл бұрын
***** That was impressive. Incredible.
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 12 жыл бұрын
You are live on Subsim! Thanks for your permission. This is a valuable tutorial.
@Tyrog
@Tyrog 12 жыл бұрын
I'm quite impressed! When I'm playing I always go to periscope depth and track everything without any instrument/markers on the map with trial and error. Sonar targeting has to be effective for a single target but with a three ships convoy it wouldn't work :P I've found myself in this weather a few times without being able to do something good... Thanks for the tips!
@hansgruber6358
@hansgruber6358 4 жыл бұрын
I do not know if you are still around HalfjackHJ. But your videos have been a massive help to me with SH4..cheers
@aureliomarsili3902
@aureliomarsili3902 9 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial ... thanks for the effort ... it seems difficult !!!
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 9 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind comment. It's actually not as difficult as it may seem, and the distance/time measurements can be made a lot easier as well. For example, plot a point, wait 3 minutes, then plot the target's second point. Divide the yards between the two points by 100, and the result is the target's speed in knots.
@229leatherface
@229leatherface 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. I'll let you know.
@simba28420
@simba28420 12 жыл бұрын
Hey great video... would like to add that to move the hydrophones you gotta hit home/end ... i was clicking like mad til i figured that out. Also you quite hilarious and so is your cat. Your like that Gene Hackman, except you got a cat instead of the terrior
@antuan734
@antuan734 8 жыл бұрын
If I may, I use the 3 minute distance speed formula. Mark first contact. time 3 minutes. mark 2nd contact. 3 minutes = 100 yards, so if the contact goes 1200 yards (an example) then it's speed is 12 knots.
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 8 жыл бұрын
+antuan734 I adopted this method a few years ago, and love it as well.
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 12 жыл бұрын
A fine attack! Just a couple of pointers that might help. First, I noticed that you did not open the torpedo tube doors. This made for a several second delay in opening the tube and that resulted in hitting the aft portion of the target instead of where you were aiming. Second, an easier way to calculate target speed is that the number of hundred yards he moves in three minutes is his speed in knots. This guy moved 500 yards in three minutes so his speed was 5 knots. Look Ma! No calculator!
@TortugaPower
@TortugaPower 8 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I'm reading it correctly, but on the sonar instrument, is it reporting a range that is different from what is being sent to the TDC? E.g. at 2:50 the indicator stops around 2900, but the TDC was sent information of 3160. Maybe the instrument is not supposed to give raw range, and there is a calculation which has to be made to get the 3160? Or is this the same as when your hydrophone operator isn't accurate with his reports, so the instrument report (of 2900) is actually better than the TDC report (of 3160)?
@mortenstrm203
@mortenstrm203 7 жыл бұрын
It is just converted from meters to yards. 2900m = 3171yd
@unocualqu1era
@unocualqu1era 12 жыл бұрын
Are you using graphic mods? Because the rain and the explosion looks pretty nice
@229leatherface
@229leatherface 10 жыл бұрын
Tight video. Can you do more. I've watched all of effing controller and picked up a lot of info. But I would like to try your way. Now one of your vids won't play. Can you do a step by step vids?
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 10 жыл бұрын
Which video won't play? And, I'm not sure what more you want me to do. I kind of thought the videos were fairly step-by-step already.
@Cryton12345
@Cryton12345 11 жыл бұрын
Hey are you going to finish this video? let us know I find it really good
@jeffpuha8187
@jeffpuha8187 9 жыл бұрын
Would you please tell me how you can zoom so close to the target? I don't know how to do that. When I'm in "Free Camera" mode, I can only pan left and right or up and down, not in and out. I have seen other videos where the players are able to zoom very closely to ships, and even their own sub. I would like to do that as well. I'm currently playing SH4 version 1.3. I haven't downloaded version 1.5 yet. Thanks.
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 9 жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly, it's with the w and s keys. The a and d keys control side to side movement as well.
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 12 жыл бұрын
With your permission, I'm linking to this video in my Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks thread at Subsim.com. Great job with a technique that too few have put into video.
@ZoeSummers1701A
@ZoeSummers1701A 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this tutorial. How come the merchant doesn't know it's been pinged and change course and speed? Can you use this on warships too or will they know they've been pinged? Thanks again.
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you for the comments on my videos. I appreciate you taking the time. Now, to answer your question, if I recall correctly, no, you cannot use this against military vessels (Unless you're so close, and firing so immediately that their reactions won't have any real effect, but at that point, why even bother with the ping?). Further more, I believe if you even use it -around- military vessels they'll start searching for you. Why the merchant vessel doesn't react, I can't say. I imagine it's just a gameplay conceit.
@229leatherface
@229leatherface 10 жыл бұрын
I got the vid to play. But in the beginning of the vide. You used the compass to make a circle. What's the distance or how Manu Nm should I make it.
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 10 жыл бұрын
So, at first, when I set up the compass to make a circle, it didn't have a particular distance I was putting it out to. I just was getting the circle ready while I waited. After I got a sonar ping off of him, I adjusted the circle's size so its radius (With my boat at the middle) was the distance away from me. Then, I used my protractor to determine the angle away from me the ship was, and I was able to plot a more or less accurate location for where he was when I pinged him. It was shown in part 1 Manual Torpedo Targeting with Sonar (SH4) I hope that helped. If not, I'd be happy to try and help more.
@russoft
@russoft 11 ай бұрын
what version of the game is this? I reinstalled this year and the map shows everything in tenths of a nautical mile which generally isn't a problem, but if I wanted to do this, my error would be 200 yards rather than 50 yards!
@riesmewd
@riesmewd 12 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial. Do you have any suggestions for sonar only targeting when escorts are present? As you probably know, you can't ping for range when escorts are around or they come screaming directly for you with a bone in their teeth.
@229leatherface
@229leatherface 10 жыл бұрын
What version are you running. My tools(compass,etc) read differently
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 10 жыл бұрын
If you also get the u-boats missions expansion, it patches the game from 1.4 to 1.5, I think. The tools themselves, however, should still work exactly the same. I have no mods on this. It might be that weird little green thing (I think that's a magnetic compass) above the other tools. It gives a 360 degree bearing around the tool's cursor. If that's not it, and you have the same version of the game as me, I'm afraid I have no idea what else there is.
@martinposavec5255
@martinposavec5255 10 жыл бұрын
Hey are the equations same for metric system?
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 10 жыл бұрын
No. You could of course look up the conversion rates, but the easy little numbers will not be the same.
@jaycyberatt
@jaycyberatt 9 жыл бұрын
Good hit but for some reason I kept hearing Herman Munster doing the commentary.
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 9 жыл бұрын
John Ratcliffe It's what I look like to. Probably would blow your mind.
@jaycyberatt
@jaycyberatt 9 жыл бұрын
Actually I was quite fond of the character, but just wondering if it is a regional accent I may have not heard much of? :)
@HalfjackHJ
@HalfjackHJ 9 жыл бұрын
John Ratcliffe Well, I always assumed I had that generic sort of newscaster accent. I guess I don't, though. I'm from Colorado, but I can't tell if I have an accent. Sorry, man. I can't help any more than that.
@Cryton12345
@Cryton12345 11 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a issue with your video :( not letting me watch the whole thing sadly
@karlshaner2453
@karlshaner2453 Жыл бұрын
In reality you could not do this. The ship would be aware the moment you ping him.
@Cryton12345
@Cryton12345 11 жыл бұрын
disregard last mesg about your video for some reason it alloud me to watch your video now
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