Manual VS Automatic Transmissions Off Road

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7 жыл бұрын

Off road driving presents it's own set of unique challenges, some of which are handled better or more easily with a manual transmission, when an automatic might be more appropriate for others. For this video, we take a pair of identical jeep XJ cherokees out to compare the auto VS manual in several common off-roading situations.
For street driving, overlanding, and some light off-roading, the automatic offers several advantages. The auto allows basic ease of operation, simple and highly effective left foot braking, and generally smooth driving. It also allows the driver to focus completely on the obstacles ahead, line selection, and take the energy otherwise spent operating a manual transmission and redirect that into other things.
Most hardcore off-roaders and overland enthusiasts prefer a manual transmission for their robust design and simple mechanics. A manual transmission also gives the driver more activity behind the wheel, which many enthusiasts and weekend off-roaders appreciate. There are also advantages traveling down steep hills to locking a manual in gear and using more effective engine braking.
Join us in this video to see all of the differences between manual and automatic transmissions off road, and please add any questions or comments directly in the comment section of the video.
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@Teamoneilrally 6 жыл бұрын

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@frederickneill7965 6 жыл бұрын

Team O'Neil Rally School Where are you guys located at? It would be awesome if there was a rally school where I live.

@chaoyu6126 5 жыл бұрын

In the uphill portion (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e5tdfMiZp86peqM.html) the instructor says he's heavy on the brakes. What does braking accomplish when you're going uphill?

@JoelBalcioni12421 3 жыл бұрын

What the setup ok those xj’s? Lift and tire size?

@akmaverick8808 6 жыл бұрын

Love how you 2 compared exact. Same model and everything. Roll cages and all. Exact same vehicle just different drivetrain. Good work guys.

@lscstudios4637 Жыл бұрын

* transmission

@calebosterman3075 Жыл бұрын

@@lscstudios4637 thank you, I was just about to say that

@14bqdonk Жыл бұрын

That's true! Fair and square comparison

@InCountry6970 5 жыл бұрын

I am in the manual camp for sure. Something not mentioned in your video is that a manual can be started if you battery is low or dead. This is not that uncommon when you are off roading and using a winch or other electrical sources when in the back country. Easier to repair Lighter weight Doesn't over heat light automatics

@V8AmericanMuscleCar 4 жыл бұрын

And if it breaks, in most cases you are still mobile. Been there few times. LOL

@mann_idonotreadreplies 2 жыл бұрын

If u misshift or get injured you won't be enjoying it especially remote locations.

@oscarbear7498 Жыл бұрын

If you injure a leg or an arm your screwed. I broke my arm and had to drive stick. It was AWFUL!!!! something doing things that only require 1 hand and 1 arm is an advantage

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

Rock crawling in a manual and stalling is a big problem

@cautarepvp2079 7 ай бұрын

missshift? What does that even mean lol@@mann_idonotreadreplies

@alecmatteson692 7 жыл бұрын

My truck is 2wd wtf am I watching this for lol

@ianhenderson3491 6 жыл бұрын

entertainment

@ianhenderson3491 6 жыл бұрын

and knowledge

@gabrielcornejo238 6 жыл бұрын

Dreaming is valid

@eric.riddle 6 жыл бұрын

Because your truck wants to be a 4x4 when it grows up

@mitchellhalvorson9719 6 жыл бұрын

So you know what to do when you get a 4wd

@wsantalitz7785 7 жыл бұрын

I like my manual truck. Speeding while keeping at low rpm to save gas or speed up with high rpm (downshift) to easily overtake. Will stop on a middle of steep climb (plains, rocks, snow, you name it) and resume without backing (by pedal combination) or intentionally back up a little to scare the car behind(it's fun every time) and keep them from sniffing your ars. You can also play the throttle just to hear her prrrrrr. etc. etc. you can also keep it from borrowers cause most people doesn't really know how to drive it. Manual trans=100% control and it needs SKILLS to optimize performance even beyond the limit. Not because you're older means you know better. Skill is like a talent not everyone have it.

@Cherokee93 4 жыл бұрын

I'm 15 and getting a jeep cherokee 5 speed for my first vehicle there arent many kids my age driving stick

@toadfullya3558 4 жыл бұрын

Cherokee93 literally everyone I know drive manuals, I’m 16 and good for you my friend hope you will enjoy it

@Cherokee93 4 жыл бұрын

@@toadfullya3558 i got an auto but i will get a manual i still know how drive stick tho

@V8AmericanMuscleCar 4 жыл бұрын

@@Cherokee93 my XJ is 5 speed but turbo diesel. 😁 I had both but I have much more fun with manual.

@Cherokee93 4 жыл бұрын

@@V8AmericanMuscleCar what country are you from ive never seen a turbo diesel Cherokee in America

@V8AmericanMuscleCar 5 жыл бұрын

I had both and I prefer manual, more fun for me. 😁

@johnNYgoesLA 2 жыл бұрын

Wow thank you so much! I recently bought a manual XJ and was not sure if it was the right choice. This cleared it up. Thank you so much.

@07BLUESTI 3 жыл бұрын

I don't even have a truck just enjoyed watching this lol Thanks for comparing the exact models as well.

@Ben-lo7cy 6 жыл бұрын

Automatic is definitely better for rock crawling. People always hate on me but when’s the last time you seen a pro using a manual. Auto with shift kit would me cool though

@Dexter_Solid 6 жыл бұрын

no need for shift kit anymore, autos are all electric

@Nitro187 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dexter_Solid You can get a proper 4x4 manual with a crawler gear. Gives you more control of your speed and wheel torque than an automatic.

@Lu-e 3 жыл бұрын

The classic rock crawlers with this Hilux’s were all manual and they did one hell of a job

@gurjindersingh199 3 жыл бұрын

Bro with a Toyota Hilux and dual transfer case I'm sure manual would be just as good if not better

@Vazquez12able 6 жыл бұрын

2:10 You can use low gears and stay in 1st gear. You can go REALLY slow without touching the clutch.

@raymondbrammer1072 6 жыл бұрын

Trump!

@druzzyaka 4 жыл бұрын

The majority of automatic transmissions in off road cars have 1, 2 or 3 modes, in order not to shift gears in unappropriate situations

@DMX-PAT 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this!!

@wildbill23c 6 жыл бұрын

I don't mind 4 wheeling with either. Choosing the right gear is the key, waiting till you are flying down a hill with the wheels locked up is a bit too late to worry about shifting LOL.

@user-po8no1xp6e 3 жыл бұрын

How about the modern automatic gear boxes that allow you shift gear any time you want? Won't that eliminate the drawback in the automatic transmission you mentioned?

@4x4adventure_pl 11 ай бұрын

XJ is great car. We just have bought one and starting our drives with it!

@TheJared1445 6 жыл бұрын

My grandfather had a '71 D100 2wd longbed with a 318 and the torque flight automatic. He was able to get into a lot of places he shouldn't have been trying to get to with that truck and proper tires. Compared to his buddies with 4wd manuals. I can see the advantages of a manual. But I prefer the automatic for ease of use (I do know how to drive manual and love rowing through gears), because I'm not as experienced.

@user-oc1jn3hj6y 6 жыл бұрын

It sounds like the best solution is a paddle shift, manual shift automatic and an easily accessible emergence brake lever, or perhaps dedicated emergency brake pedal where the clutch peddle would be, since most "engine braking" would involve the rear wheels. Or, why not just ride the brake down? It's not like there's a danger of overheating them in those conditions.

@elmerllamas3792 2 жыл бұрын

Really informative thanks!

@completefemboyr.n.g1308 4 жыл бұрын

Love my 5-speed Cherokee. They're so hard to find because not many people but standards in the 90s.

@nicklanfear4303 Жыл бұрын

Yep, I found a 99, love it

@jhk768234dfg 7 жыл бұрын

Two things not talked about in this video that are benefits of having an autobox while are offroad are that the automatic is much kinder mechanically to the drivetrain components when wheels are slipping and gripping. All that slip-and-grip action tends to get absorbed by the torque converter and not transferred into the iron. The second item is that the torque converter can act as a secondary gear reduction box in a way that slipping the clutch on a manual can, only without damaging or burning out the clutch. Yes, you have to watch your trans oil temps, but it can be danged handy when you're in 1st low crawling uphill.

@mitchellhalvorson9719 6 жыл бұрын

jhk768234dfg thats why you get dual transfer cases and differential gearing. You lose a lot of power and traction through the torque converter in am autobox.

@Dexter_Solid 6 жыл бұрын

autos give more torque than a manual, why do you think 1st gear is like 3.5 to 1 on autos and 5.5 to 1 on a manual, the torque converter can give you as much as 3 to 1 torque multiplication giving an auto with 3.5 to 1 first 10.5 to 1 gear ratio, the numbers may be different on different vehicles, but the point is all torque converters give multiplication

@kevinramierz5820 6 жыл бұрын

Mitchell Halvorson hurts to get proven wrong huh?

@mitchellhalvorson9719 6 жыл бұрын

samus989 well what car are you talking about. Its true they do hold up better in new cars, but in older cars like these the autos are total. Garbage that's why everyone swaps them out for manuals

@juliansanchez1817 6 жыл бұрын

The problem with autos is the are boring as hell to drive. Lmao

@jeeper426 6 жыл бұрын

there are some small tweaks you can do that make up for the problems you mentioned, and there is a company that makes a shift controller that allows you to lock the auto transmission into 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc, good video though, and decent information for new buyers

@RickHavok 4 жыл бұрын

1978 Called and asked what hill descent control, ABS, locking torque converters, and computers were.

@MosOneFPV 5 жыл бұрын

Very helpful !!

@onefastcyclist 7 жыл бұрын

A good presentation with very similar Cherokees over the same trails to minimize other variables. Thanks! It should be noted that the 5-speed manual gives you a taller cruising gear on the paved road that takes you to the trail-head - not a small advantage!

@onefastcyclist 7 жыл бұрын

BTW, rather then 20+ year old designs, how about pitting one of Toyota's TRD trucks against each other as one can still order a manual transmission for one and order the other with their more modern automatic? They have a select-a-gear holding feature that allows down-shifting for descents or holding in a selected gear for other off-road needs. Though I prefer manuals, I've driven newer Toy's with this transmission and found little to fault.

@jhunt6943 7 жыл бұрын

I drive a manual FJ as a daily and weekend toy. My buddy drives an auto and at almost every obstacle he will have a much smoother time going through it. A modern auto will beat a manual everyday offroad and with new designs on a drag, But i will always say that a manual is a lot more fun to ride. Just something about connecting with your vehicle.

@aurasushii3676 10 ай бұрын

@@onefastcyclist I know this is an old comment but... here's a video of a manual and automatic Modern Toyotas trucks off roading :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oN9hndKqvMm2c5c.html

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

@@jhunt6943 agreed... I had a manual Wrangler and loved the connection, but hated stalling while crawling. My Xterra has hill climb assist (only available in automatic) which is quite helpful

@tubbed68cuda 6 жыл бұрын

I love my manual 99 XJ!

@Mhmed_205 5 жыл бұрын

team o neil, i am from sudan and thanks for all this (continuo)👍🇸🇩

@sunson5317 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@aliassmithandjones9453 Жыл бұрын

you can go slower on descents with a auto trans if you shift the TC into low range

@TRICORDIANO 6 жыл бұрын

thank you for your video congratulations

@fishinfreak4374 5 жыл бұрын

That 4 litre in that manual Cherokee sounds so cool lol

@thunderbear0 3 жыл бұрын

I love manual but only thing with this is rock climbing and uphill rock climbing its super hard and tricky before that you need to master the clutch control and it also wear your clutch alot faster you need to mod it up with a heavy duty clutch and you foot and knee will also hurt like hell if you're doing it for whole day for long time

@mw3gamer23 3 жыл бұрын

It all comes down to personal preference if you like going fast (manual), if you like put-put around (automatic)

@jeremypaluck4246 2 жыл бұрын

My 88 five speed Cherokee with the 4.0L was awesome, when you manually turned the 4x4 on My 96 Cherokee 4.0L HO automatic was very capable tho, but less easy to control.

@paranbaruah9355 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Manual for life , Cheers!

@dustinshadle732 5 жыл бұрын

automatic, add proper shift kit, gearing can help, as can upgrading the transfer case used. ive had both jeeps in auto and manual, and a commanche and an amc eagle, and a ford hi boy in automatic, swapped 360 for fresh 390, built stroker inline 6 engines for most of the jeeps. the additional power made it better down hill either transmission used, more powerful engines do make the torque converter work more efficiently. the 4.5 liter stroker was cheap to build, and parts were everywhere. more powerful, feels sorta like a small block. worth the time.

@BigBoiBalu Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Common sense but it helps to Visualize

@stewiegriffin3549 6 жыл бұрын

I use a Bicyicle throttle on my shifter to keep from rolling back

@FirstnameLastname-ni9uh 3 жыл бұрын

The manuals for uphill and downhill is so good especially in 4lo

@MidnightMadness4x4 7 жыл бұрын

any more Cherokee manual vs automatic videos on the way by any chance? I've been debating switching from an automatic to a manual for what I do because I have to run low range and it bangs off the rev limiter before shifting with automatic.

@mrantihippie 6 жыл бұрын

MidnightMadness4x4 use the gates on the auto and shift it before banging it off... idk how you even do that lol. Must be raising hell because ixve never had a shortage of power with the 4.0 and the low af low range..

@mrantihippie 6 жыл бұрын

MidnightMadness4x4 and i own both setups.

@josephgodin2260 6 жыл бұрын

I been wheeling for a few years (30) always had manuals. Tried a few auto from buddys and just can't seem to like them. Nice demo guys

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

You probably prefer a 1911 too

@blam7 7 жыл бұрын

In down hill in automatic I use 4L 1 gear in a very down hill slope or I can use my "Hill Decent " button..

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

When rock-crawling in a manual, if you stall out, you are screwed.

@metagore 6 жыл бұрын

I've owned a '98 Wrangler Sport (manual) and currently an '06 Xterra Offroad (automatic). I'll gladly take the performance of the automatic transmission and accompanying technology (slip control, lockers, brake lock) over a manual Jeep. The X does have "descent control" but I've only used it a couple times, just to see what it did... and I prefer just dropping it into 4L and/or downshifting for heading downhill. I've driven both offroad in the mountains in Colorado and hands-down the Xterra does better. But the automatic Xterra has much better technology (in my opinion) than the Jeep XJs or '98 TJ Sport so it's not really a fair comparison. There is, however, a testosterone fueled machismo associated with this discussion and you can see it throughout the comments. "Real men drive standards"... and here we are... making videos to identify the shortcomings of an automatic transmission over a standard. My response to that is... real men drive what they want and don't need to "size" each other up.

@Kens789 5 жыл бұрын

Alpha Male Comment 👍

@mrducky5 5 жыл бұрын

So what if you had a manual Xterra, that was exactly the same as your automatic. Would it be a closer battle for you?

@steventure7939 4 жыл бұрын

But, which one puts a bigger smile on your face when you drive it? I'm willing to bet the Jeep ;)

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

I agree. I drove a manual Jeep and mow have an automatic Xterra with hill descent and hill climb assist. It's helpful while climbing steep objects

@rougebeaster 6 жыл бұрын

Auto all the way I've off-roaded both and auto is just so much easier. The biggest thing by far is with a manual when you are in first gear and trying to crawl up hill you need to feather the gas and the clutch so you don't stall and also feather the breaks on dips and rocks which is almost impossible unless you can heal toe like a rally driver. In an auto all you have to worry about is giving it gas when you want to and breaking when you want to. You don't have to worry about stalling you don't have to worry about over Reving and spinning your tires and getting stuck you don't have to worry about bogging down in a higher gear when slowing down. What a lot of people don't realize is their is a lot of control and effort that goes into serious off-roading and theirs a lot to do at one time. So if theirs anything you can do to lower the amount of activities you have to do all at once it's always for the better

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

Especially if you have a radio in one hand

@Snarge22 3 жыл бұрын

I think the bolder climbers prefer the automatic, but as for me I much prefer a manual as I am more engaged with the car. I think in many circumstances an automatic may do better, and I know I'll make some mistakes driving the manual. But they're my mistakes and that's part of the deal being more involved with the vehicle.

@luckgil 6 жыл бұрын

Is there any way i can get the plans for the role cage that you have in your car? Thank you

@aztronomy7457 Жыл бұрын

Luckily hill descent control fixes some of the problems with automatics/cvts

@johnkemple 6 жыл бұрын

I am with the auto...Were you in 4 low? going down that hill. I believe 1st gear on a 4 or 5 speed is lower than 1st gear on an 3 or 4 speed auto..the best part of an automatic is when i am going up a hill, all i have to do is let off the brake, no feathering and 3 toed or heel toe clutching, to get going, though I am good at it. I have had two identical rigs at the same time. both scouts. both 4x4's had positrac rear ends. one a stick the other an auto.The stick was always at a disadvantage. I never found any time where the stick shift offered any advantage in extreme off road conditions. like rocking your self out of a hole. The auto was way better in snow, on the highway in snow it is superior hands down. My dad had jeeps it had a 3 speed. We changed that clutch ever summer after visiting the dunes. The simple answer to the question, which is better? is simple. what do you like. My dad liked shifting, he was a truck driver. I am not; I used to like shifting when My 400 4 speed camaro drove me to high school. now I prefer to hold my coffee cup while I idle along the Cat trails after the first snow instead of the shifter knob.

@philiplubduck6107 6 жыл бұрын

for going downhill would a automatic with gear select be as good as a manual? I can select (manual mode) on my automatic and stay in first unless I hit rev limiter which is probably 20-30mph. it even has a snow mode and starts in second while in snow mode.

@TheMagnumChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video, as a student of history, I would say the boys in WWII only had one choice, so that’s what I want! 🙃

@clutchitup8565 5 жыл бұрын

any tips on not burning the clutch in a manual when im in deep snow or mud ? should i rev it up and dump the clutch? because when i ease into it i start burning the clutch any tips would be great thanks !

@jacoley 7 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know what the gear ration was in the rear end on each jeep or the # of splines?

@HealthSupercharger 4 жыл бұрын

What about new automatic transmissions that you can put into specific gears? Ford has a 10 speed auto now that does a lot of engine breaking. does the new jeep automatic transmission not slow you down and stay in specific gear?

@md_randoms2429 4 жыл бұрын

The auto in the xj cherokees are really good too

@Dexter_Solid 6 жыл бұрын

Range selection and hill descent control on newer autos eliminate the two issues you guys were talking about

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

My Xterra also has hill climb assist which can be helpful

@admiralrob777 6 жыл бұрын

Good video and what's that white stuff on the ground lol

@manny6584 5 жыл бұрын

Looks like both those trucks went down that hill at the same rate of speed to me.

@jeremycokeley735 4 жыл бұрын

I watched this when I was thinking about getting a new Wrangler and here I am just bought a manual xj instead lol

@ChillOutDude00 4 жыл бұрын

Observations so far?

@jeremycokeley735 4 жыл бұрын

Well I've owned 3 xjs were automatic and there automatics are really good but xjs don't like hills but the manual makes it better,. It's more fun off road and coming down a mtn it's nice to engine break instead of roasting the breaks. Haven't tested the dunes yet hopefully in a week or so have some work to do to it.

@alexgeo80ag 6 жыл бұрын

When going downhill with conventional auto in 4 low mode you need to bring it to a rev in low gear only then the engine bracking comes in. If you just let the in low gear while going downhill the engine bracking will only comes with the speed.

@xXSUPREMEOMEGAXx 7 жыл бұрын

Did I hear that Automatics can be better than Manuals? Watch out here come the testosterone fueled 14 year old key board warriors

@rene.grondzi 7 жыл бұрын

14 year old keyboard warriors lol ?!?! they can't even drive until they 18 maybe in USA they can.

@xXSUPREMEOMEGAXx 7 жыл бұрын

Rene Grondzi since when did not being able to drive stop them?.....

@TraceyAllen 7 жыл бұрын

xXSUPREMEOMEGAXx I started to legally drive at 14. loved my 78 scout ii. 345 v8 factory diff lockers. and an auto. they should have also touched on whether it was in hi or low range. having had 4x4's with both trans, gear range makes them act differently. also engine displacement has an effect on engine braking.

@jaygib9 7 жыл бұрын

Rene, they could if it has an automatic transmission.

@Skandish 6 жыл бұрын

I drive up a steep and slippery and rough hill every time going home. With automatic transmission it was very easy to control speed during ascend (down to zero) which helps a lot in negotiating obstacles with a car staying in one piece. But after my wife rolled over going downhill (disadvantage of automatic) we bought manual which is much much harder to bring up: I either need to drive fast over all the holes not to let engine stall or burn a clutch (which I did the first day) trying to keep speed slow enough.

@OffroadTreks 5 жыл бұрын

This must be an XJ owner thing. I can put both of my automatics in any gear I want.

@richardcarr6493 7 жыл бұрын

well in the army l driven both and predictability of a manual wins me over every time but the automatic wins on easy of use for the average driver first time off road BUT the experienced off road driver will pick the manual for complete control of said 4x4 ing not to mention more robust powertrain afford by a manual .

@TRDTercelen 7 жыл бұрын

A lot of rock crawlers and snow wheelers choose the automatic. I can see where mudding or higher speed travel would be better with a 5 speed.

@richardcarr6493 7 жыл бұрын

well l will add if one prefers auto box l recommend and older one that s mechanical vs electronic ,generally older C6 turbo 400 or 727 torque flight are pretty stout old school autos l m not as familiar with anything newer as of yet but l hear 700R from GM are pretty good from what l ve read BUT there s any you know of please share

@gumundurbjarnason521 6 жыл бұрын

richard carr well in iceland experienced off road drivers choose automatic in our super jeeps

@1800chriswoods 6 жыл бұрын

Automatic transmissions can handle much more power and torque. Also, less wear and tear with no constantly slipping clutch.

@SkylineFinesse 6 жыл бұрын

Chris Woods autos handle more power? tell that to mercedes

@WILLAXXX 6 жыл бұрын

1st 2nd and 3rd are usually offered on the driving panel of automatics so automatics win really.

@Tinari1020 5 жыл бұрын

Not exactly. The XJ autos have a low gear that’s 1-2 which keeps you locked out of 3. The low range will still have the trans shift between 1 and 2

@MrChucknorrisaurus 5 жыл бұрын

The thing is even if you lock the transmission into a low gear it's still not going to engine brake as much as a manual at lower rpm's because the torque converter isn't close to locking up and is still slipping a lot.

@Nigriff 8 ай бұрын

One point you missed is having an extra hand available with an automatic for navigation, communication, or drinking a beverage.

@AlexN2022 5 жыл бұрын

what about the newer boxes with Manual mode and paddles? They should hold the selected gear fairly reliably

@jeremycokeley735 4 жыл бұрын

My work truck is a Ford F-350 and drive on dirt roads and mtns all the time tow mode and has gear select buttons on the column shifter works great for engine braking

@jakethequadrunnersnake642 6 жыл бұрын

I say manual the only thing that sucks about a manual is that if u start on a hill u can get roll back but other then that it's better. I have a 1996 f150 300 i6 it's a 5 speed I haul a lot with it and some off road cuz I fish and hunt but a lot of my off-road is done on my atv it's a Honda rincon 680 so i use it usually

@carls.6746 6 жыл бұрын

still haven't found anyone who put a military surplus Allison transmission in a jeep or other 4x4 of similar size.

@williammelear2906 2 жыл бұрын

How do the auto transmissions hold up in bad mud. Looking at buying a 1999 for our hunting camp.

@jlsgarage872 6 жыл бұрын

All set aside jeeps are great off-road

@2wildtravlers 2 жыл бұрын

That's weird in my 1995 automatic, when going down hill! I put it in gear 1 an put it in 4 wheel low it acts the same as the manual an doesn't fall down the hill it catches the whole way... Are you also in low or high?

@StarAZ 7 жыл бұрын

What about automatic (or dual clutch) with paddle shifters?

@kingjeremysircornwell7847 6 жыл бұрын

i like a #torque #multiplying #slush #box.

@cautarepvp2079 7 ай бұрын

3:39 i have been using the L gear and 1,2 gear ⚙ even on my tractor, it's a good trick, byt what if Engine brakes fail? And then Engine breaks? And you are going down hill... is it good to throttle it a bit when going down hill right?

@loschekell 5 жыл бұрын

This is in snow. Some say their automatic will over heat if you go off road in the summer.

@m60hog1 3 жыл бұрын

Keep my 97 automatic Jeep XJ. Mostly drive hwy an am not very good with a stick. Especially on hills in the city.

@beltsandedman 3 жыл бұрын

Practice makes perfect!

@michpo1445 6 жыл бұрын

I feel like it's the same difference between a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke dirtbike, you dont have to pin an automatic uphill which is a huge bonus

@CopeManMTNDEW 6 жыл бұрын

I would agree automatics are far more easier to drive than a standard off road. For me it's no challenge with an auto. I like a challenge. I've had a lot of Cherokees and the last few I've built plus my current build I 5 speed swapped. Driving a manual off-road is an awesome experience and that's all I'll ever want. I love to have complete control of the gears, rpm range, speed, braking, all that. I drove manuals since I was 16. I'm so used to it that I gag when driving an auto. My love for having a standard off road began with owning a yj. Everything I drive is manual almost lol. My car is a manual, my Jeep is a manual, and my truck is currently getting 5 speed swapped once I get enough money for a clutch and flywheel.

@jew0182 2 жыл бұрын

What’s it like to swap a XJ auto to a 5 speed? I’ve missed my 95 2 door sport from high school. (Got rear ended totaled) been looking an dang there just isn’t any 5 speed manuals out there.

@allseeingI5 4 жыл бұрын

You get the most control out of a geared dual transfer case and you don't even have to use the clutch cause it's so low geared

@jamoliverj 7 жыл бұрын

Like that the XJs that you use at the school are basically stock with roll cages. That's cool. As a relatively new XJ owner I'd love to do some off-road training with the rally school and these XJs. In your opinion what is the advantages and disadvantages of the roll cages you use in these XJs? Do you think that the XJ needs this level of reinforcement? Or is it more for insurance/safety considerations for use with the rally school?

@Calcapwn300 7 жыл бұрын

XJs don't have a frame like 98% of other vehicles. the roll cage will stiffen up the unibody and act like a pseudo-frame. that said, i don't have a cage in mine...yet.

@mrantihippie 6 жыл бұрын

Jason Argonauts cus unibody

@mrantihippie 6 жыл бұрын

Wonder how many here commenting have actually taken a 4x4 manual AND auto offroad and are not just backing what they own

@brandonbouchez7195 6 жыл бұрын

Only driven a manual tj and I love it! Can be a bit tricky sometimes but that's the fun part!

@jitteryloki 6 жыл бұрын

I wonder the same thing... honestly i own a manual f-150 that i love off roading very much but i think its mostly a preference thing, both can work well in offroad situations

@stonewp 6 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a manual and auto TJ. The manual is more fun for the street but loses in every situation to the automatic off-road. Manual is less forgiving to the rest of the drivetrain. Mechanical connection between the crank and axles bounces you around while driving over trails with lots of baby-head sized rocks. The vent at the bottom of the bell-housing allows grit and muddy water to get between the surfaces of the clutch and accelerate wear. My auto had 4:1 gearing in the t-case so engine braking was never an issue. Auto also allows you to seamlessly shift through all of the gears if you find yourself half way up a slick climb and need some more wheel speed.

@skeetorkiftwon 6 жыл бұрын

Taylor Mallory I own both. Both are fun. Do you want to focus and play hard impressing the boys? Do it in the manual. Do you want to take a pair of tits out on the trail and not embarrass yourself stalling or missing a gear/pedal? Use the auto. Once you're really good, neither is significantly better. It's an xj. Anything the other can't get up is really suited for the tube frame anyway.

@mrantihippie 6 жыл бұрын

skeetorkiftwon i had both at one point but my first XJ was a 5 speed. Second was a automatic. The automatic was much easier lol. Unfortunately that one caught fire. Still offroading the 5 speed, not trying to " impress the bois " just prefer that for the better mpg overall..

@jeffkoch4708 6 жыл бұрын

We're can I get inner roll cage like that and what's the cost???????

@RedneckRickem 7 жыл бұрын

I've off-roaded all my life and have always found autoboxes to be the best. It's all about throttle/brake control. Try going from snow to sand to rocks in a manual, stuck every time. 1. Have you ever tried shifting gears on sand, buried first shift!!! 2. Have you ever tried crawling up a rock without rolling back, double pedaling brake and throttle with left foot clutch almost impossible. 3. Have you ever tried climbing a snowy hill from the base and get into second gear without spinning out. The autobox can be manually shifted from first to second to gain your momentum. Call me a 14 year old keyboard warrior all you want but with 30 years experience guess I'm just someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Cheers and don't take this as a rant but a little more insight of actually thinking about all the different terrain advantages of an autobox.

@wsantalitz7785 7 жыл бұрын

Lol

@myvids4329 7 жыл бұрын

Learn how to drive. You don't need to use all three pedals in 1st-low regardless of slope. Hold clutch lightly at friction with the left, then transition from brake to gas with the right foot. Zero movement of the truck even at stupid angles. Perfect control. I do enjoy people who do not have much manual experience claiming they do though. That's shit I learned when I was 16

@RyanWithAviators 7 жыл бұрын

While respectful of your 30 years experience, I disagree with you regarding snow and sand. I've driven in predominantly sand, snow, and mud when I offroad, and it's really not that bad. You just have to be a quick shifter. Rocks, I must admit, are very difficult in a manual without really low gearing. If you have something like 5.13's with 33's or smaller tires, you're not going to have any issues on rocks, but with anything else, you're going to have a little harder time not rolling back. Concerning the snow, I disagree because you can start out nice and slow in 2nd gear in a manual, whereas you can't start out in an automatic in second gear. Although you can baby an automatic easier because of the torque converter slippage, I've been driving a manual the entire time I've had a driver's license and have never had any issues in snow. It's all about finesse and knowing your vehicle's clutch engaging point well.

@jimmyschmidt14 6 жыл бұрын

Never had issues shifting in the sand. just shift quick. i've got an NV3500 so it's easy to do. if u have an NV4500 or other slower shifting trans then maybe you could have more issues.

@vulcanraven87 6 жыл бұрын

RedneckRickem or maybe you just don't know how to drive standar

@kneeknockers1712 3 жыл бұрын

What size lift and tires are on these XJs?

@16driver16 6 жыл бұрын

I think there's something wrong with your auto jeep, my aw4 works awesome keeping my jeep under control when stuck in first gear low range downhill, also I use high range to keep wheelspin down sometimes

@Jamisonarts 4 жыл бұрын

You can put a manual xj in first be off the clutch let of the gas and it will creep slowly without stalling

@danhambrick6331 5 жыл бұрын

Why does the green XJ have ford bronco2 wheels?

@paradiseroad6405 5 жыл бұрын

...Caterpillar put torque converter power shift transmissions in their bulldozers back in the 1950s...and never looked back...

@bmurphy0296 7 жыл бұрын

in ireland it's rare to see an automatic except for the new cars nowadays I'm 14 and ive only driven Manuel

@andrewcheatle4691 4 жыл бұрын

In the UK & Ireland Autos are generally seen as Old or Disabled/Ill people's cars...I tick both those boxes so that's fairly accurate 😖

@bobaudette79 2 жыл бұрын

When looking at what you did.. The other in the automatic didnt use the brake. I guess it would become predictible with the brakes.. same as manual! ;)

@SuperJetlife 6 жыл бұрын

what is the lift size on those?

@omgcheeter 2 жыл бұрын

In the automatic how does it not keep it in 1st gear if you leave it in first gear ? In my auto land cruiser in steep hills going down I leave it in first and it stays in first and doesn’t want to run away

@Starlesslemon 6 жыл бұрын

They have magical things called brakes

@justinharris6763 6 жыл бұрын

I use an th350 auto with a manual valve body designed with engine braking in all gears. Most extreme 4x4s and rock crawlers use the same. I love manuals when towing or street driving. But in the woods the auto wins

@WILSON.1 6 жыл бұрын

Was he hitting the brake and the throttle at the same time or did I interpret that incorrectly?

@coopercox5270 3 жыл бұрын

So on trails you use the brake as your throttle in a way. You hold the brake and rev the engine. Slowly let off your brake while holding that rev. It's called trail braking. It prevents you slamming on the gas on a bump.

@WILSON.1 3 жыл бұрын

@@coopercox5270 Interesting. Thanks.

@barefooboy17 7 жыл бұрын

I have a Nissan Xterra 4 wheel drive 6 speed manual and I do a lot of off-roading and I would not have it any other way. Yes you do have to work the clutch a little more but you have a lot more control and a lot more torque than a lousy automatic for off roading

@dustinmckinney8863 6 жыл бұрын

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@dustinmckinney8863 6 жыл бұрын

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@wrxgereboost 7 жыл бұрын

I've done lots of xj offroading, and all though I love standard trans for a lot of things, auto seems to be the best fit for put it In drive and just go, anywhere, plus you have a free hand for your off road soda

@rileyjohnson2663 6 жыл бұрын

lgboost "offroad soda" always need one of those

@SulCoCrazy 6 жыл бұрын

When going downhill in the auto, why was the t case not in 4-Lo?

@Teamoneilrally 6 жыл бұрын

That is in 4 Low, we use Advance Adapters transfer case levers + linkage which are much beefier than stock, but yeah it looks different than the normal one.

@LloydLynx 3 жыл бұрын

A torque converter is just a work around for not having low range.

@1SIK335 Жыл бұрын

I drive a 700awhp BMW and I have a manual 1998 Cherokee 4x4 and I will never drive a vehicle with an auto... I want to be able to control every aspect of the vehicle. I love my Jeep manual in snowy, and all actually, conditions...