Floatwheel ADV Pro Review | A Budget One Wheel with a VESC

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This video covers my impressions of the Floatwheel ADV Pro, however the regular Floatwheel ADV should be more or less the same for all major considerations. It is a decent board, but one that has some flaws that need real attention. Currently, it can be seen as competition to the recent Future Motion flagship, the Onewheel GT S-Series (or GT-S).
Thank you to Tony at Floatwheel for sending this unit out, it is much appreciated.
Thank you to Maclak at www.av-wheel.com/ for helping with the photos for the BMS.
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00:00 - Intro
00:49 - T.L.D.R. Summary
01:29 - What Is The Floatwheel ADV?
03:51 - Positives
07:30 - Needed Improvements
12:18 - Conclusion

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@floatwheel 6 ай бұрын

Hi Mario, thanks a lot for your review! one thing to mention is that LCM idle consumption is solved after order #2200+ now it takes 190 days to drain a full battery when sitting idle, and yep, we are working on solving all those issues mentioned and we will be replacing V1 customer's bms+esc combo at manufacturing cost(within 200$), we are also developing kits to allow people to reuse their v1 controller inside onewheel GT XR PINT PintX, as we speaking, the V2 bms is now being tested on my bench, all code side work is done, now the battery cell information displays on the vesc tool app as well, looking forward to another exciting year for this community!

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

Get out of the way batman, Tony's my New hero !!! :) regarding the idle drain, could you not just put a n.o. relay in the circuit feeding the led ? Like am arduino style one that closes on activation of the power switch.

@SyniSTAR100 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the response @floatwheel. I am on track to getting a Float wheel and love what you guys have been doing to disrupt and support the market!!! Keep it up TONY, your the best

@vdzrussell 6 ай бұрын

I can vouch for the idle consumption, #2680 was ~60% after taking almost 3 months to be delivered.

@Frea2b 5 ай бұрын

Long live FW.

@azndemonlord54 6 ай бұрын

It's one thing to provide a technical review to us, but to also provide an artistic/aesthetic review is amazing and welcome.

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

That’s very kind, thank you. Good to hear from you sir.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Mario! I was just working on our Floatwheel review video when I saw your video. I don't think I have anything else to add. Excellent work, as always!

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

Thank you! That means a lot. 🙏

@smoxesk 6 ай бұрын

lol u guys are every were i commented on your video earlier i upgraded too a 55mph e scooter last week still wanting too test it more but there is nothing but ice here in the UK and rain , so makes it worse

@chrisc790 6 ай бұрын

Jimmy where is your review? Would love to see it!

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

@@chrisc790 it is in the editing phase. Coming soon to a KZfaq app near you!

@trey1531 6 ай бұрын

I love my ADV, done hundreds of miles on it!

@hackjealousy 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I’m on the second set of plastics - I’m trying to baby them for now.

@Eryktion 6 ай бұрын

@@hackjealousy I destroyed my first set of plastics. Now I have the updated plastics and I'm not going easy on them. But they're holding up without any problems.

@Zetler 6 ай бұрын

@@dezh2544 Getting dumped is what happens when you ride a Onewheel. This board from China is ironically the safest I've ever ridden. Life-saving duty cycle monitor, god like torque that carries you over anything paired with VESC tuning that rejects all user error nose dives. Its incredible.

@theinvisiblechurch3180 2 ай бұрын

How did you order it! When I go to order the ADV I am unable to. It won't allow me to choose a color. Thus not allowing me to put it in the cart.

@monyx1101 6 ай бұрын

Good to mention non-US customers - main reason why I sold my GT for an ADVPro as well as the massive torque / hill climbing improvement as I reside in Australia.

@Joeyboi74832 6 ай бұрын

What’s the shipping and payment process like to Australia… I’m Australian and also looking at the ADVPro

@monyx1101 6 ай бұрын

Paid with Coinbase, was 2 month wait back when I ordered Aug '23. Shipping then was only $130 but has gone up now to AUS.@@Joeyboi74832

@monyx1101 5 ай бұрын

@@Joeyboi74832 i used Coinbase, took 2 months to arrive, shipping last year was usd130 but is more now.

@user-sf3ui8sf6o 5 ай бұрын

sure..because we don't have hills in the USA.

@monyx1101 4 ай бұрын

I wrote it badly Australia referring to no service-centres outside of CA. @@user-sf3ui8sf6o

@SMASHINGblargharghar 6 ай бұрын

Fair review. This should be the one everyone shares

@jaefrmbk2k 6 ай бұрын

great video & presentation. thx for all the honest info. planning to Vesc my GT via FW's V2 controller this year 🤙🏾

@sandorszabolcsi 6 ай бұрын

Amazing review as always! Not a fan of the rails on this, prefer the ADV with extended battery. I'm going to wait until the newer version comes out, not willing to pay to beta test at this point but admire the people who are blazing the path for more choices, and competition.

@laughingskeleton 6 ай бұрын

Great video! Thank you for making videos for grownups about one wheeled boards !

@DrewElia 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic review and I the very small Time I had ridding ( your GT ) I agree with how it feels under foot line a thick log. Coming from a pint with that curved wheel and smaller ….everything… the pint felt light and lively. I’d love to be able to try a VESC based onewheel for comparisons sake and being able to see how the difference feels! Again fantastic review as always. Love seeing you pop up on my screen! 🎉

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Some day soon, I’m sure you’ll be able to try a range of these kinds of boards. Some are very impressive.

@andrewwilson983 6 ай бұрын

Another great video Mario!

@Owmobshop 6 ай бұрын

Great review!!

@iBenCruz 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks Mario.

@BillyShredder 6 ай бұрын

Awesome video, well done 👏🏼

@hornz5 6 ай бұрын

Very informative! Thank you

@bookmark2846 6 ай бұрын

Excellent, professional review. Holding out for the V2 with Smart BMS. Meanwhile enjoying riding the 2swift board while I impatiently wait.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

Have you tried the 2 swift off road ? I've seen one or 2 In the city but never seen them off road. 2swift claims they are off road capable.

@bookmark2846 6 ай бұрын

@@MrDmadness Yes. It isn't really a great experience off road. There is no suspension and the slower you go, the less balance you have so it is more a road wheel with the ability to handle mild off roading. It is relatively low to the ground so even going over some speed bumps will scrape the bottom.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

@@bookmark2846 that was my take on it, i ride primarily off road on mtb trails and such but I'd absolutely rip one if those around on some pavement :)

@bleedsblue05esk8 6 ай бұрын

Love this review. Still waiting for mine to arrive. Any chance you’ll do an initial setup video. Putting it together and initial programming and your preferred setup.

@lucasgonzales4260 6 ай бұрын

He's already done that "VESC One Wheel Full Setup"

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

I have indeed done one, at least for the Hypercore and Little FOCer setup. I do have one I need to reupload for the Floatwheel, but it needed some corrections. That will be up shortly.

@bleedsblue05esk8 6 ай бұрын

@@TheBoardGarage awesome! I did see you had some for the other vesc boards you’ve had on your channel. Wasn’t sure if it would be the same for the FloatWheel

@deanaoxo 6 ай бұрын

While I also, don't care for the 'thicker' feel of the GT style platform, there is a lot to like here. As for longevity for the early adopters, well, you can get parts. Currently I have two perfectly fine (FM)boards that need BMS's, and that pretty much bums me out every single time I think about it. I'll probably end up VESCing those boards, but it's a ridiculous situation. Thanks Mario, this was an excellent review, I rode my first one last week, and was delighted, though it is not my style of board. XR for the win~!~(with more power, and WTF rails)

@SyniSTAR100 6 ай бұрын

great job with the video!!!

@DoctorBendOver 6 ай бұрын

Thanks. Gonna wait a few years before I buy one.

@reidhartford6915 5 ай бұрын

I also have an adv pro by floatwheel and it's actually much quieter than any future motion board I've owned including my gt.

@dogbog99 6 ай бұрын

Great video. I’m looking forward to the V2 electronics, I will probably buy the updated floatwheel and sell my GT and XR. FFM, R2R ❤

@D0m1n1c6 6 ай бұрын

best floatwheel review, full agree

@stereothrilla8374 6 ай бұрын

I’m just stoked to see another company making one of these things. Future Motion is notoriously a shitty company know for practices like bricking the product and forcing you to ship it back to them in California if you do something as simple as disconnect the battery.

@dioscarreyescabreja2102 5 күн бұрын

I totally agree with you, am really tired of that things

@ilrisotter 6 ай бұрын

I love my adv, the only thing that keeps me from riding it more, is the lack of custom rails. I like more clearance in the tail than straight rails allow, and it's probably going to be a long time before custom rails come to the adv.

@gergosnoo 6 ай бұрын

great video!

@EthanNoble 6 ай бұрын

Ooooo I like that dubstep sound

@brahamyoung1951 6 ай бұрын

Having coffee & watching Suns out so I’m off 8-15 downunder

@Nuketownkid_ 5 ай бұрын

Where can I buy this? I don’t even see it anywhere on the Internet.

@ChristopheGUIVANT 6 ай бұрын

You said several times that you did not like the GT ride but have you tested it with the Katana rails of Tech-rails and the performance tire from FM? Like you I really found that the original GT was difficult to handle but by making some changes my opinion has completely changed ... Thank you for this review on the Floatwheel that I have not yet had the opportunity to try and I hope that in the future of new rails will also be available for this big board.

@smokeyBJJ 6 ай бұрын

My GT had WTF Low Riders, and an Enduro tire. Still prefer the ADV!

@ChristopheGUIVANT 6 ай бұрын

@@smokeyBJJ ADV is undeniably a good board too... I can't wait to test its power!

@smokeyBJJ 6 ай бұрын

@@ChristopheGUIVANT I’ve already logged 6800w, it’s unstoppable power! If you know how to ride you’ll never carry it up a hill again lol

@chrisc790 6 ай бұрын

@smokeyBJJ that is good to hear, my exact GT setup, adv should be here any day now.

@hackjealousy 6 ай бұрын

I got the light-saber sound to go away except when the board warms up.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

Was that via the adjustments that Tony suggested sone time ago?? Glad to ( not ) hear it :)

@east905skims5 6 ай бұрын

When you talked about floatwheel pricing you mentioned + taxs/duties. From what I see floatwheels are being shipped as gifts and your not being charged that. I would love your opinion on what a Chinese market take over means for the evolution of onewheeling as a sport. 🤙

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

Tbh, onewheels are also effectively made in china, they are assembled in America but the pcb and such look like custom orders from pcb way.

@CodedGames 6 ай бұрын

Oof I wasn't aware of the lack of individual cell overcharge protection. That's a real fire hazard

@tyyuuuihycyctct 5 ай бұрын

I'm new.. is this the only production line made one wheel after the onewheel? After watching Ross video I'll never buy the OG one. Thanks

@H1tman47 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, some of the decisions Tony made about BMSes are questionable. He mentioned that he has a charge-only BMS on its way for GT conversion kits which will turn a blown power FET into an uncontrollable battery fire. I have a Pint control board with a blown FET sitting on my bench so that's a big yikes in my book.

@floatwheel 6 ай бұрын

we added a 100A fuse for the charge only bms in gt kit

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

@@floatwheelthe bms. respectfully intended but this needs to be a high priority because if a battery fire occurs and burns down somebody's house it will tarnish your good reputation, and you know those cun*s over at Fm are looking for any ammo they can get against you... don't give them any

@byomann 3 ай бұрын

Do you use loctite on plastics ? I juste received my board and i dont know if i do use loctite on plastics. I read on reddit, loctite eats plastics. Thanks you

@monowheeling 6 ай бұрын

3:41 What is bold about a splitting battery pack?

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

The connections between them are a bottleneck and potentially weak point, if the cells are close together the resistance between all the cells ( wire connections ) are uniform distance ( uniform resistance ) , by splitting the pack tge resistance between the last cell in 1 pack and the first cell in the 2nd is greater than all other wire connections. Im not a pcb level electrician so I'll wait for and be interested to hear Mario's take on it though as he's more an expert for sure in this component field than I am.

@monowheeling 6 ай бұрын

Why not having some sort of Fang wheels off the shelf? Are they not effective?

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

Not really, fangs are best used for street tricks imo

@bluegizmo1983 6 ай бұрын

Yikes! That battery drain when powered off is insane! I've left my PintX off for well over a month and when I finally came back to it, it was still pretty much the same charge, it maybe lost 2%. And having cell undervoltage protection dump a rider because one cell fell below the limit isn't good either. It should just give a very noticeable warning to stop riding immediately!

@freedomcaller 6 ай бұрын

I thought the idle drain was fixed months ago.

@smokeyBJJ 6 ай бұрын

There is an easy solution if you don’t mind soldiering. The problem will be fixed with V2 electronics. Altho my friends second ADV does hold the charge much better than his first one so I’m sure Tony has made changes to the current v1 electronics. The parasitic draw is still there, but far less than before. V2 will solve this!

@devrim1134 6 ай бұрын

Friend of mine has an adv and i don’t mind soldering. What is the solution? :)

@freedomcaller 6 ай бұрын

@@devrim1134 its swapping a 0608 size resistor for a higher value one. Something like 1k for 100k, but i don't recall which one and what values exactly. Tony left is as a comment on a video somewhere not sure if it was one of his or a reply to dado. 😅

@smokeyBJJ 6 ай бұрын

@@devrim1134 I’ll take a look for it

@smokeyBJJ 6 ай бұрын

@@devrim1134 replacing the LCM bottom R6 resistor to 1206 200K resistor. I’ll continue looking for pics. I got that from my notes

@jngai 6 ай бұрын

Wow. Didn't know the Floatwheel will also throw you if the battery is undervoltage. I figure it would be possible but was hoping that is not the case (considering how Tony mentioned it is more powerful than even a GT-S in a recent video). Oh well, I switched over to an electric longboard as my go to. Not as nimble as a OneWheel but a lot safer (no throwing me off without notice), lighter (less than 20 pounds, even my Pint is heavier than that), easier to carry (I bought skateboard straps that allow me to carry it on my back, < 20 pounds is easily manageable across both shoulders compare to an inbalanced one sided lug), faster (max speed at 29 mph, although I don't dare to hit that), cheaper ($400 Meepo V3S + $180 for 110mm cloudwheel rovers) and no mount of shame (in fact, very easy to hop on/off by holding down the brake, which locks the board in place). Don't get me wrong. I truly hope the VESC community succeeds in creating a PEV that is safe for commutes. I will still ride my Pint in a park or a bike path as it is fun, but that's about it.

@mwiz100 6 ай бұрын

If you think ya can't be thrown off an eskate I have bad news for you... If it suddenly looses power in the same manner it's going to rapidly slow down and unless you react very fast with your body position you're going off the front. If you have a fet failure or a few other things the wheel(s) can lock up creating a really severe case of this. NOTHING driven by electronics is fault-less.

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@c.daubz.5386 6 ай бұрын

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@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 3 ай бұрын

$1600-$1800 depending if you get the Pro.

@Tatad3 6 ай бұрын

Don't rely on the strap of your Skydio 2 case.

@ulyssesmelendres504 6 ай бұрын

How much?

@ulyssesmelendres504 6 ай бұрын

Never mind. Said $1800. Too much.

@darkknight097 26 күн бұрын

@ulyssesmelendres504 The GTS it compares to is like 3000 😂

@jeremyneworleans 6 ай бұрын

Mine doesn't make that much noise.

@nekkrokvlt 6 ай бұрын

Mine either. Per feedback heard adjusting zero vector frequencu should solve this

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

It actually does sit WAY above a onewheel gts... this has been tested extensively

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

Not really. Different people have said and shown different things in different videos. There’s been no transparent testing methodology shown by an independent source, with attempts at limiting variables. Hence, it depends on who you ask.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

@TheBoardGarage that's fair, it does undeniably have more power and a faster top speed. As you know more volts does /= more power to motor just a greater "pressure" to overcome resistance ( which could be a heavier rider ) I'd be curious to see a bench test of the static voltage, the freewheel amp flow and the in rush voltage. the static voltage and the amp flow alone are enough to know its potential work. Thanks for everything you do Mario, always a pleasure to chat and watch your videos.

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

I appreciate the kind words. I have a colleague who is designing a purpose built dynamometer to measure these boards. I’m hoping it will help add some more information to the conversations.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

@@TheBoardGarage correct me if I'm wrong, but you are a systems electrician? If so then you know how to calculate work load based on output, so without even spinning the wheel you can absolutely know the potential usable energy in a system through calculation. If you are not a systems electrician then you're damn skilled at it, but in that case I prepose you and tfl get together and do a more controlled test, would make a great video. :) as always, respectfully intended.

@milesonewheelwinter 5 ай бұрын

No good

@telace1 6 ай бұрын

So you have to buy the parts and build this ADV???

@hackjealousy 6 ай бұрын

You buy a kit essentially. It’s fairly easy to put together.

@Instabiliti 6 ай бұрын

No. it's just two pieces. the board itself, and the hub/motor/tire itself. assembly is just putting the two pieces together with 4 hub bolts and 4 additional block screws, and carefully plugging in the motor plug. it's a ~15min job.

@telace1 6 ай бұрын

@@hackjealousy where do you get the kit

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

@@telace1Google floatwheel, their site is currently in russia ( future motion lawyers have been effective at shutting down their us based site ) and you just pay with crypto, which put off many people but is not as hard as people think. :)

@monowheeling 6 ай бұрын

1V drain per two days is pretty terrible.

@dogbog99 6 ай бұрын

These boards are far far superior to future motions boards. The only choice in a one wheeled electric board right now should be the floatwheel.

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

I disagree. Custom built boards are still a large step above anything else.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

I agree with both comments, if you're looking for an out of the box ride ( with some assembly ) the fl8atwheel is a no Brainer. Custom rides are what will push things to new levels though .

@dogbog99 6 ай бұрын

@@MrDmadness yes the DIY approach will be better for people willing to source parts, gather knowledge and tinker etc. but the best out the box experience (with a little software configuration) is the floatwheel.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

@@dogbog99 can't argue with that :)

@jasonmelo9379 6 күн бұрын

This is way too complicated to order and assemble

@robertnelson3585 6 ай бұрын

Day 1 of asking for a adv or a onewheel

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

Adv.. future motion is shady as f. I say this with thousands of km ridden on onewheels, I would no longer support future motion which 7s sad cause I was a backer on kickstarter when they first came out... id love to love the company but they are anti fonts er and don't listen to their customer base at all.. proprietary components all over.