Mark & Carrie: Morally Flexible, Politically Bendy

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Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs

Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs

Күн бұрын

Mark Blyth, political economist at Brown University's Watson Institute, and Carrie Nordlund, political scientist and associate director of Brown's Master of Public Affairs program, share their take on the news.
On this episode: the politics of 'Megxit'; Impeachment and Trump's optimistic 'State of the Union'; hope vs. cynicism in the Democratic primaries; Mark and Carrie's casserole cultural exchange; Coronavirus and globalization; Mark and Carrie's holiday trips to...Australia and Russia.
To hear more: / markandcarrie

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@kyledrums
@kyledrums 4 жыл бұрын
"I grew up in the midwest". Now I understand Carrie.
@MatthiasVargas
@MatthiasVargas 4 жыл бұрын
Yes give me Mark's hot takes I've been withdrawing
@amyjones2490
@amyjones2490 4 жыл бұрын
I love how economists say theres no inflation...except for anything a human needs.
@jibbilies
@jibbilies 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with Mark. Midwestern Casseroles are a culinary warcrime. :-D
@lord6617
@lord6617 4 жыл бұрын
Only when produced by incompetents.
@JoaoSantos-lv4rc
@JoaoSantos-lv4rc 4 жыл бұрын
in terms of actually listening to lengthy political procedures, a recent yt suggestion made me realize that with a lofi background it is possible.
@sietuuba
@sietuuba 4 жыл бұрын
That submarine film Mark talked about is "Le Chant du loup" and yes it is fantastic. Translated in English: "The Wolf's Call". It came out last year and it's probably still on Netflix.
@mmmhorsesteaks
@mmmhorsesteaks 4 жыл бұрын
That casserole sounds profoundly regrettable.
@billguerra1304
@billguerra1304 4 жыл бұрын
Carrie seemed reasonable until she said she supports Bloomberg because he lobs insults back at Trump *head shake*, why vote on substance?!
@tottifan6979
@tottifan6979 4 жыл бұрын
don't worry no-one is tuning in to hear what she has to say
@vladimirzaitsev5085
@vladimirzaitsev5085 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say I almost turned off the podcast when she said that. But after their next exchange I got the vibe that she was being quite sarcastic. I could be wrong but I don't think Carrie was being serious.
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae 4 жыл бұрын
hahah i feel like it was a joke. :)
@paulhignett378
@paulhignett378 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure it was not a joke unfortunately, but you could sense Marks surprise.
@JoaoSantos-lv4rc
@JoaoSantos-lv4rc 4 жыл бұрын
She's playing the average person - "i want someone who punches back" leading him to his argument about cutting up the preferences of the electorate. > her then saying that Trump and Bloomberg are the same i think proves this. She plays that role well i think, it's why they work well together.
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I never know if Carrie is serious or not but she cracks me up.
@Byronik
@Byronik 4 жыл бұрын
Please tell me the title of the French movie with the submarine.
@MichaeldeSousaCruz
@MichaeldeSousaCruz 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Mark explaining how money works now! LearnMMT!! Modern Money Theory. Nothing to be afraid of
@edgewiseass
@edgewiseass 4 жыл бұрын
You can find on here some lectures he gave over the summer at an economics workshop where he goes into some of his criticisms of MMT. I know a lot of MMT folks like to claim him as a supporter because he agrees with a few of their points, but he's not.
@MichaeldeSousaCruz
@MichaeldeSousaCruz 4 жыл бұрын
edgewiseass yes I know. His issue is that he wants to tax the hell out of the rich to take away their wealth and spending power, lessen the inequality gap. MMT economists do talk about doing that but their strategy is first to make the rich irrelevant, by offering the Federal Job Guarantee (aka Federal Transition Job) to establish a wage floor, create full employment and price stability, offer benefits like healthcare, education, paid parental leave, etc.... And once you’ve done that for the working people, stabilized their lives and the economy, then we can deal with taxing the rich, if we want to... which they do propose. But let’s take care of the working people first.
@Dave004
@Dave004 4 жыл бұрын
been missing these! and big fan of Mark's youtube lectures
@scriptguru4669
@scriptguru4669 4 жыл бұрын
170 billion is sounding pretty low ball looking back.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath 4 жыл бұрын
"The allies built a bridge across the Rhine in two days under heavy fire" Yes, it actually took them only one day less than it took the Romans to do the same thing, 2000 years ago.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath 4 жыл бұрын
@@coreyander286 not firearms, but the Germanic tribes had some sort of artillery, I believe (I'm not trying to dismiss the allies, of course!)
@samuelglover7685
@samuelglover7685 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChannelMath Not to mention that the Romans did it with nothing more than human and animal muscle power.
@jhoxha
@jhoxha 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the bridge built by trajans troops over the danube during the invasion of dacia
@konormccracken
@konormccracken 4 жыл бұрын
"[Maybe Iowa should give someone else the honor]." February 3rd Mark & Carrie - you have NO idea
@Cy5208
@Cy5208 4 жыл бұрын
They are both coming off as establishment academics stuck in establishment groupthink.
@jonrolfson1686
@jonrolfson1686 4 жыл бұрын
Just had a vision of Iowans snickering while slapping 'Kick Me' signs on the backs of dozens of condescending journalists.
@paulpeterson4216
@paulpeterson4216 4 жыл бұрын
And guess who is wearing the "Kick Me" signs now?
@vanessaszczepanski3932
@vanessaszczepanski3932 4 жыл бұрын
More Mark and Carrie. Yes!!! Thank you much love
@zzRider
@zzRider 4 жыл бұрын
8:24 I wish he would go on the Jimmy Dore show and say that; I’m curious how they would react to this.
@satyricon451
@satyricon451 4 жыл бұрын
You'd think there'd be more gravity surrounding an impeachment, but I suspect most would see it for what it is: political theater.
@joehiker8114
@joehiker8114 4 жыл бұрын
So I had to google "Midwest Casserole" they look fantastic.
@hrmIwonder
@hrmIwonder 4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anyone use "casserole" like Carrie did, it's an interesting geographical variation. In my neck of the woods (Montana), a casserole is not just one thing. "Casserole" is just a generic term for various types of meals cooked in a flat rectangular glass dish, green bean casserole, tater tot casserole, etc.. You'd say "Could you bring a casserole to the potluck?" and never just "could you bring casserole". I've never heard anyone say it without an article in front of it. Fun stuff, I love little dialectal variations.
@ericdaniel323
@ericdaniel323 4 жыл бұрын
An old friend of mine from Minnesota used casserole to describe the actual rectangular dish, like Mark did. She called the food itself a "hot dish."
@hrmIwonder
@hrmIwonder 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Daniel yup, that's consistent with our usage too. We also call the glass dish itself a casserole... But I think "hot dish" is a broader category of foods.. Food terms are always fun, there's huge variations between geographic areas, sometimes even between families in the same town.
@ericdaniel323
@ericdaniel323 4 жыл бұрын
@@hrmIwonder thanks for the response! I grew up in the south, and the "casserole" is the food, while the vessel is a "casserole dish."
@hrmIwonder
@hrmIwonder 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericdaniel323 so does casserole refer to a specific food? Or are there various types of casserole?
@ericdaniel323
@ericdaniel323 4 жыл бұрын
@@hrmIwonder I love how far removed this is from the topic of the video 🤣 Yeah, I grew up calling any sort of mixture of meat/cheese/veg/noodle, etc. that goes in a casserole dish a casserole.
@Herkkkules
@Herkkkules 4 жыл бұрын
Gosh oh golly, what a searing insight into Russian affairs from Carrie there.
@userasdf1546
@userasdf1546 4 жыл бұрын
I was litterly searching for this podcast an hour ago
@macgonzo
@macgonzo 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was hoping someone could pass this on to Mark - I think he'd find a recent book (fiction) by Kim Stanley Robinson "New York 2140" very interesting.
@rcmrcm3370
@rcmrcm3370 4 жыл бұрын
Google is hidding comments, or someone running this vblog is, since count and visible comments do not add up.
@petenztube
@petenztube 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, what? Mark came to NZ but didn't do a talk for the fans?
@OrinThomas
@OrinThomas 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to "revolt against technocracy?"
@imavileone7360
@imavileone7360 4 жыл бұрын
Did you not notice how the establishment is just openly fucking Bernie over in Iowa? Technocracy isn't going anywhere.
@davidwilkie9551
@davidwilkie9551 4 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the rule, that it's better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and prove it. (US being the exception that proves this rule)
@spitezor
@spitezor 4 жыл бұрын
OK can we be blunt here? Casserole talk?
@aleaiactaest8354
@aleaiactaest8354 4 жыл бұрын
So its Bernie vs Bloomberg from now on. Interesting to see what democrats pick.
@lkuzmanov
@lkuzmanov 4 жыл бұрын
Democrats just do not seem to get it... A billionaire is your candidate against Trump. Seriously? Whose party are you supposed to be?!
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 4 жыл бұрын
The liberal wing of the business party.
@thepeopleshistoryofus
@thepeopleshistoryofus 4 жыл бұрын
What was relevant in this podcast? I must have missed it.
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor 4 жыл бұрын
Bernie is going to be stabbed in the back by the DNC; the risk of Coronavirus developing into a pandemic; Trump benefitting from Democrat infighting and polarisation of electorate.
@thepeopleshistoryofus
@thepeopleshistoryofus 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, all old news that has been hashed and rehashed. Some of those topics have been dissected from every possible angle for at least 6mo.
@listener523
@listener523 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thank god when you started re-broadcasting Glen I thought the internet had lost its greatest comedy duo. I came here to laugh not to think. I thoroughly enjoyed the offhand assumption that the polity is divided between die hard Trump fans and yourselves. 13% of Americans have postgraduate degrees you might want to consider that when assessing the popularity of your peer groups ideas. Consider someone who didn't vote for him in '16 but does not believe he is a facist (oh look there he is in my mirror). Such a person might find him odd or even obnoxious at times. To perhaps hope that the DNC might step away from identity politics and socialism. Fast forward three years and we've had a nonstop identity politics tantrum and their frontrunner never met a communist he didn't love. Meanwhile the job market is so tight that every time I look at Indeed I feel like the prettiest girl at the prom. My 401K appears to be hurtling towards an asymptote. We've passed energy independence and are net exporters.
@joyg2526
@joyg2526 4 жыл бұрын
Carrie likes a candidate that isn't about substance but will sling mud like the other doofus. Even is she's just making a super crappy joke, this tone deafness is indicative of the out-of-touch, neoliberal, academic, elitist. Trump just brought all these type of people out from their exclusive, gated strongholds and made them shake with anger in their leather penny loafers. These people show everyday they don't give a damn about anyone else's problems outside of their own circle.
@SuperSpidey313
@SuperSpidey313 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah....wow. She's so consistently off the mark. I couldn't tell if she was being sarcastic or what.
@peteconroy1348
@peteconroy1348 4 жыл бұрын
Love the show you two! But Mark i think youve got the Mexit bit wrong here. Yes racists didnt like her but not everyone that got sick of the new royal couple were racists. They were the exact same people who applauded Gervais telling celebrities to stop lecturing the public.
@peteconroy1348
@peteconroy1348 4 жыл бұрын
P.s. i think you're dead on about the mail though!
@buzoff4642
@buzoff4642 4 жыл бұрын
Racist paper, Mark presumes, equals racist country. Worse, in US, presumed the reason for Mexit. Similar junk extrapolation when Brexit vote came in. Google search for the term "Brexit", post the vote, presumed to be searched by the UK voters. Junk opining, by commitment to narrative to perpetuate/project.
@peteconroy1348
@peteconroy1348 4 жыл бұрын
@@coreyander286 thank god people like you exist to tell others whats really in their hearts. How else would they learn that they're really bad racist scumbags. Pat yourself on the back, have a rest, and get back out there for more judgemental judgyness! Go you!
@joelwhite665
@joelwhite665 4 жыл бұрын
Jfc, Carrie obviously lives in some weird bubble where she just regurgitates a slightly edgier version of what CNN and MSNBC are trotting out on the regular. Love Blyth but will no longer be subjecting myself to his co-hosts political amateurism. Sorries!
@jackwalters742
@jackwalters742 4 жыл бұрын
Please, lie to us about trump and say he doesn't have a chance!
@aliasoma
@aliasoma 4 жыл бұрын
Carrie?! Mike Bloomberg has a similar background as Trump?! Are you friggin' kidding me? Geez, do some stinking research before making comments like that.
@aliasoma
@aliasoma 4 жыл бұрын
@James D Robertson She was referring to how they grew up. Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth; Bloomberg wasn't. Bloomberg's father wasn't a criminal either.
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