"Not evilly wrong. Just incompetence wrong." Hahahaha I love him.

Many here are saying this is the best MES interview they've ever heard. Yes, it is great. The reason for that is obviously due to the interviewer. MES knew the interviewer was genuine so Smith was all in. And, yes, I know who the interviewer is -- it is Tim Sommer and this is from New York University's radio station. Tim Sommer was a fantastic DJ. He played the greatest music and his interview show was must listen. I don't know where you can find it, but his interview with The Violent Femmes was absolutely fantastic. Informative and funny as hell. It's from nearly 40 years ago and I still remember it, that's how great it was. Glad to see that people here are enjoying the fantastic work of Tim Sommer. He loved music and it shows in all he did. (He was a massive Chameleons fan, I do recall.)

One of the best interviews with MES I've ever heard. Brilliant. Thanks for posting this.

"You play music like you invented it" Probably the biggest acclaim one person can bestow upon another in terms of musical genius!

There really will NEVER be anything like M.E.S. and THE FALL. Amazing live band !!! Except those "rare" off-nights.

Very good interviewer , and he and Mark seem to be on the same wavelength !

when you are it, you don't have to affect it

I met and had a brief conversation with M.E.S at a signing of their then new album, The infotainment scam .I asked him about the inspiration behind "Wings", wondering if Gabriel Garcia Marquez's " a very old man with enormous wings"(which has an almost identical tale to tell), was an influence.He said no, it was just a sci-fi thing.I found him smart and interesting, and I wish I had the nerve to talk to him a while longer!

miss ya , cheers for the years

6:58 *_”well, when you ARE it you don’t have to affect it”_*

Ooh, Timmy Sommer! He used to write the America Underground column in Trouser Press and hosted Noise The Show on WNYU Radio. I like how Mark said he was tired of just playing England because it was too "safe" to play where The Fall remain popular. I hope Mark brings The Fall back to NYC someday soon. We miss them here.

And they blew away USA as well :) I have a couple of tape recordings of gigs played on 'A Part Of America Tour' and every each one is brilliant..

Oh, hah. The intro is from "I Dig You" from Cult Hero. A hobby side project from the Cure. Mark E. Smith's a cult hero too!

Genius

Fascinating interview, although it sounds like Mark's swallowed the mic.

Shame it's only 25 minutes wish it was 3or4 times longer, MES and the interviewer both sharp as a tack... 👍

Mark was a unique guy. Fall fans, i created a video to go with their song No Bulbs, its in my recent uploads Septemeber 2018, or simply just type in The Fall No Bulbs and youll see it there under my username.

I wonder what happened to all his writings and notebooks after his death? If he'd been an author of a similar standing it would have ended up in a library or archive.

Have to agree with percy blakeney, this is the best most enlightening M.E.S. interview i've heard

Mark sounds so posh in this interview. What was the 100 word Christmas message he wrote for the NME, mentioned at 22:24 as the best thing ever written?

12:25 sums it up.

V/good.

He believed that what he had to say was right.

Anyone know the song at the start? X

Goodness, remember when Americans were eloquent? Seems like a life time away. What on earth happened to you guys?

So, he COULD speak English early on...very hard to understand years later.

I love how he always sounded like he had false teeth, even before he did. One of the last times I saw the Fall his dentures wouldn't stay in and he sang half the set crouched behind the drum kit.