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Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne - Retro PC Time Capsule vs PS2 - Can Consoles Cope?

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The Retro PC Time Capsule is back - this time taking us all the way back to 2003, the year of the Radeon 9800 Pro... and Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne! In this video, Alex plays the Remedy classic on period appropriate PC hardware, while John attempts to keep up on the PlayStation 2 rendition of the game. The PC's inordinately more powerful, so can the console keep up?
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@Zly-Porucznik
@Zly-Porucznik 7 ай бұрын
RIP Mr. James McCaffrey, I didn’t know he passed away! Such an iconic voice. 🙏🏻
@ThatZenkiS14
@ThatZenkiS14 7 ай бұрын
i been mad no ones was talking about it.
@davidt3563
@davidt3563 7 ай бұрын
Holy crap really?!?
@paulino58
@paulino58 7 ай бұрын
When?
@zedfragg4134
@zedfragg4134 7 ай бұрын
@@paulino58 Late in 2023 just after Alan Wake 2 was released. Sad times man... Dude voiced some of my fave characters. Honestly when I heard his voice in Control I knew IMMEDIATELY who it was. I was like "FACKING YES, McCaffrey!" He worked on some fan Max Payne stuff in the background over the years and it's just an iconic voice.
@paulino58
@paulino58 7 ай бұрын
@@zedfragg4134 ): max payne is one of my fav games
@MrMobista
@MrMobista 7 ай бұрын
I recently replayed this on PC. I was really impressed at how well it works on a modern system. RIP James McCaffrey, I've been hearing his voice since I was a kid. He'll be sorely missed.
@Extreme96PL
@Extreme96PL 7 ай бұрын
Compared to first game that needs entire fixpack it works much better but you still need widescreen fix without it game is awful stretched in widescreen.
@MalikATL
@MalikATL 7 ай бұрын
Same I'm playing through every single rockstar game right now and I'm on max payne 3 and I can't lie I like 1,2 a little bit better
@LostUkraineGirl
@LostUkraineGirl 7 ай бұрын
I heard there are Max Payne remakes coming. Is it true?
@borjagarcia7871
@borjagarcia7871 7 ай бұрын
Yes@@LostUkraineGirl
@aladdin8623
@aladdin8623 7 ай бұрын
And why is Alex playing it on Win XP if it run so well on modern PCs? Microsoft is not quote renowned for caring about game conservation. Even now some Win10 games don't run on Win11. And with drm dependencies like ms "gaming services" it gets just worse and worse.
@zaq_d
@zaq_d 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the acknowledgment of James. I recently came across recordings I made of my pal and I playing MP1 from 2001. Such great memories.
@CVoYager
@CVoYager 7 ай бұрын
It is hard to think about Remedy will move forward without James, he had such an iconic voice and he was such a talented person.
@thequinlanshow3326
@thequinlanshow3326 7 ай бұрын
​@@CVoYagerespecially since they're still working on the Max Payne remakes, I hope they got all of the voice work done before he passed
@milklordnomadic
@milklordnomadic 7 ай бұрын
Upload that!
@jimmyv3170
@jimmyv3170 7 ай бұрын
​@@thequinlanshow3326I hope they're still making it since Rockstar is currently suing them for having the letter R in their logo.
@jawknee4088
@jawknee4088 7 ай бұрын
Upload em! ❤
@-polarisinparis9110
@-polarisinparis9110 7 ай бұрын
On Steam Deck compatibility, I fully completed this for the first time a month ago and can confirm it runs like a dream.
@znubionek
@znubionek 7 ай бұрын
did you play with sticks or with touchpads?
@Nomad-qm3zf
@Nomad-qm3zf 7 ай бұрын
What controller profile did you use?
@jinx20001
@jinx20001 7 ай бұрын
@@znubionek I’ve played it on deck too, sticks were used with stock controller profile, you just need to turn sensitivity all the way down in the game settings or it’s too sensitive to movement. Game runs excellent on my oled deck, runs 90fps max settings even with 8x AA and at 4w even so battery life is through the roof.
@charno_zhyem
@charno_zhyem 7 ай бұрын
You need to apply the wide-screen fix though. I replayed it too. Great gameplay and graphics but story wise the game is significantly weaker than the first one
@-polarisinparis9110
@-polarisinparis9110 7 ай бұрын
@@znubionekI’m team trackpad all the way, have a custom trackpad+gyro setup I use for nearly all PC shooters. It’s immaculate for aiming, and feels super smooth in MP 1+2 at 90 FPS on Deck.
@Archangel96
@Archangel96 7 ай бұрын
Rest in Peace Max Payne
@pirazel7858
@pirazel7858 7 ай бұрын
I love the fact that the game has bullets with geometry. Also the guns have slides moving with each shot
@greatdelusion7654
@greatdelusion7654 5 ай бұрын
Most devs back then actually cared about the little details in games.
@TheDeadfast
@TheDeadfast 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget about bullet casings permanently sticking around too. I remember Mafia 1 had the same feature. Not something you see nowadays. It think that's a shame because it made every firefight feel more impactful, even when it was over.
@SpeciiA
@SpeciiA 7 ай бұрын
Top 5 best games i've ever played. This is my childhood right here. James passing was such a shock. It hit me like a train. RIP legend. I dont know how the remakes will feel now without him. Max Payne's iconic quotes will stay with me until i draw my last breath.
@arjanbunt86
@arjanbunt86 6 ай бұрын
Same here
@pimbech
@pimbech 7 ай бұрын
Playing Max Payne 3 right now, wow it still amazes me... the gunplay is so cool
@phalxor
@phalxor 7 ай бұрын
max payne 3 is really bad
@user-xf5ej5od8f
@user-xf5ej5od8f 7 ай бұрын
Max Payne 3 is a great game
@williamdriver1959
@williamdriver1959 7 ай бұрын
@@phalxoryour crazy as hell
@averageyoutuber1058
@averageyoutuber1058 6 ай бұрын
Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter ever made
@TheShocker650
@TheShocker650 5 ай бұрын
@@averageyoutuber1058 Both Max Payne 1 and 2 are much better and more enjoyable in my opinion. I can replay those games any time, while I still dread to finish Max Payne 3, cause it's so boring.
@jjforcebreaker
@jjforcebreaker 7 ай бұрын
Great game, RIP James! Fantastic atmosphere and voice acting.
@spehrson
@spehrson 7 ай бұрын
I remember that beginning rain scene, I also had a 9800 Pro and an Audigy 2, EAX enabled and a 5.1 surround system. The rain sounded amazing.
@greatdelusion7654
@greatdelusion7654 5 ай бұрын
Audio quality (sound mixing) has really gone down the tube. Most audio in games from the Max Payne 1 & 2 era up until about 2010 was extremely crisp and a lot of painstaking effort went into it, like a fine art. Not so much anymore.
@shanthoshsomasunthar
@shanthoshsomasunthar 7 ай бұрын
Trivia about Warehouse guy who tricks Max. If Max shoots him earlier, he had a dialogue that actually describes how he deduced that something wasn't right about him. 😅
@ARIXANDRE
@ARIXANDRE 7 ай бұрын
With the passing of James McCaffrey, I'm wondering which VOs are being used for the the Remakes. RIP, Legend.
@pietrycranberry6621
@pietrycranberry6621 7 ай бұрын
The dirt bag route would be using an AI voice over or Remedy gets someone who sounds similar if they aren't going to recast Max's voice.
@zedsdeadbaby
@zedsdeadbaby 7 ай бұрын
it's possible they might end up using the same audio and lines from the originals. that's been a persistent rumor
@youtubeaccount7544
@youtubeaccount7544 7 ай бұрын
They will use the same audio from before.
@Deadeye012011
@Deadeye012011 7 ай бұрын
They will use the original lines and use AI to clean up the audio quality.
@balazsvasvari9688
@balazsvasvari9688 7 ай бұрын
A small correction: palettised textures are not monochrome, they store palette indices instead of direct color values.
@pfannkuchengesicht42
@pfannkuchengesicht42 7 ай бұрын
from a data perspective it's pretty much just a monochrome texture.
@fazares
@fazares 7 ай бұрын
@@pfannkuchengesicht42 exactly
@SuperXzm
@SuperXzm 7 ай бұрын
@@pfannkuchengesicht42 from a data perspective there are no colors. Why do mental hoops?
@balazsvasvari9688
@balazsvasvari9688 7 ай бұрын
@@pfannkuchengesicht42 No, it's a single channel texture. It's not the same thing. (And even then you'd mean grayscale, which is just one type of monochrome.)
@VanGtfogh
@VanGtfogh 7 ай бұрын
I remember how mind blowing the physics and graphics looked when you shoot that first enemy into the shelf at 4:50. I was floored by the physics at the time.
@greatdelusion7654
@greatdelusion7654 5 ай бұрын
I played the hell out of this game and remember being doubly amazed by the fact that no 2 gunfight scenarios are ever the same. The physics engine allow each scenario to play out differently with each encounter.
@MrSiloterio
@MrSiloterio 7 ай бұрын
Max Payne 2 is my favorite third person shooter of all time. I still remember stumbling upon it as a kid in an internet cafe back in 2006 and it was Max Payne's shadows that really shocked me. To me it look eerily real and looking at it now, they are actually simulating soft shadows that is far beyond the standard stencil shadows being used back then. When I was finally able to install the game at home, the physics just hooked me and it was the most addictive thing to tinker with. I would quicksave a lot and replay every combat encounter that has lots of objects around to see how cool I could get away with knocking their lifeless bodies. The cherry on top is the story and theme with just oozes and style. It also made Max Payne as my favorite game protagonist of all time.
@nBasterd
@nBasterd 7 ай бұрын
and the reflection in the mirrors is real. impressive for 2003. funny just yesterday I installed the pc version on the phone. both mp1+2 runs in real 4k resolution everything maxed settings. lol
@davidt3563
@davidt3563 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I used to reload the encounters too. It was so awesome watching everything fly around when hit. Both MP2 and FEAR had the coolest background interactions.
@reloadedspade176
@reloadedspade176 7 ай бұрын
@@nBasterdhow the heck did you do that
@nBasterd
@nBasterd 7 ай бұрын
@@reloadedspade176 i know it might be hard to believe, but yes. Emulating pc games on mobile devices running ARM chips is now a thing. just look up mobox or winlator emulator. i promise you its working 100%. im using a 2023 samsung tablet. I have 1 video on my channel emulating unreal tournament 2004. and yes I mean full 4K 2160p 60hz from phone/tablet to display. Max payne 1 gets well over 100fps atk 4k. max payne2 is around 60fps.
@Wrublos212
@Wrublos212 7 ай бұрын
@@nBasterd Winlator? MP2 could not start for me. PS2 ver. runs great on Android tho.
@LuksTriad47
@LuksTriad47 7 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Ms James, one of the very best (if not THE best) game voices of all time! Thanks for all the incredible memories of my youth and life in general!
@Chasm9
@Chasm9 7 ай бұрын
My favorite game when I was a kid, it's oozing with atmosphere.
@JackWse
@JackWse 7 ай бұрын
LOLI think this was the first game I got called out on at the Fred Meyer... I had to double back and get my sister to buy it for me.
@SomeRandomJork
@SomeRandomJork 7 ай бұрын
There needs to be a DF Lets Play Rule: Anytime you play an old 90's 2000's era game, assume that it doesn't have autosaves! Someone please sticky note that to the DF Crew's Monitors!
@Mephianse81
@Mephianse81 7 ай бұрын
We need a full on DF Retro Max Payne episode!!
@Sirmorphix
@Sirmorphix 7 ай бұрын
The 9800 Pro is a hall of fame video card. One of the absolute greats. I’d love to see the DF crew do a hall of fame video cards video.
@supabass4003
@supabass4003 7 ай бұрын
9700 Pro.
@jinx20001
@jinx20001 7 ай бұрын
works perfect on steam deck by the way. 90fps at 4w (5w for no dips) max settings (8x AA included). looks great.
@zakwojnar4714
@zakwojnar4714 7 ай бұрын
This is honestly the game I’ve been waiting DF to cover since the day I learned what DF was.
@protocetid
@protocetid 7 ай бұрын
we get too few DF Retro videos
@KnotenKurt
@KnotenKurt 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for revisiting this absolute masterpiece guys!
@mazziecat
@mazziecat 7 ай бұрын
I unrionically still think Max Payne 2 looks good. It's got that photo realistic vibe to it, kinda in the same vein as GTA V
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 7 ай бұрын
In some ways I agree. Not uncommon for 6th gen games to hold up in some manner
@old_liquid
@old_liquid 7 ай бұрын
Where tf gta5 realistic, its cartoony compared to 4
@DIMON13585
@DIMON13585 7 ай бұрын
Gta V is a Looney Tunes cartoon compared to IV or MaxPayne 2.
@mazziecat
@mazziecat 7 ай бұрын
@@DIMON13585 or you using an alt account why tf are you saying the same stupid thing?
@DIMON13585
@DIMON13585 7 ай бұрын
@@mazziecat are u drunk?
@LaRavachole
@LaRavachole 7 ай бұрын
What a perfect timing! I was playing this and MP1 just few days ago. Amazing classics that still hold up to this day, with incredible attention for details. R.I.P James McCaffrey, you will be missed as you will forever be Max Payne/Alex Casey/Thomas Zane/Zachariah Trench.
@ItsAllGoodGames
@ItsAllGoodGames 6 ай бұрын
More of these types of video! Exploring the different technological approaches to different games throughout history. Its pretty interesting!
@laurenalexander4438
@laurenalexander4438 7 ай бұрын
"Can Consoles cope"? The Xbox could. Ran it pretty well, in fact. The PS2 version wasn't even using the Max Payne 2 engine. It was basically remade in the Max Payne 1 engine... And had awful loading times. Xbox version in 03 on a CRT over s-video was pretty great. Wasn't a bad port at all.
@unsacro
@unsacro 6 ай бұрын
What can u expect from these ppl, they´re PS fanboys and it has been demonstrated many times before, any retro, current of whatever video is all about "glorious" PS version of anything vs PC, like xbox versions never existed
@coltontroxler934
@coltontroxler934 7 ай бұрын
Hearing John bring up the ford taurus SHO gave me a new found respect I didn’t know I needed always the best from DF
@SyncFPV
@SyncFPV 7 ай бұрын
Just binged every PC Time capsule video based on how entertaining this was, no regrets! keep them coming!
@DawidFreeman
@DawidFreeman 7 ай бұрын
I still have the 2003 PC box copy of this legendary game.
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 7 ай бұрын
I remember eagerly awaiting HL2 and getting to experience Havok in it and this comes out and I just no idea it had Havok physics. I was so enamored by all the objects flying around everywhere
@lukky6648
@lukky6648 7 ай бұрын
It's a shame James left us before the Remakes , I really wanted to see him play the games. Rest in peace 🙏
@Nolasco.
@Nolasco. 7 ай бұрын
I really love this kinds of videos my dudes, always give me a good laugh. Thanks a bunch ❤
@slippinjimmy5683
@slippinjimmy5683 7 ай бұрын
The sun went down with practiced bravado. Twilight crawled across the sky, laden with foreboding.
@agentsmith6161
@agentsmith6161 7 ай бұрын
"The way I see it there's two types of people, those who spend their lives trying to build a future and those who spend their lives trying to rebuild the past."
@rickysargulesh1053
@rickysargulesh1053 7 ай бұрын
Since Alan Wake 2 I have been diving deep into the Remedy extended universe. So perfect timing for this video. Sam Lake is a true genius. And James will be greatly missed in future Remedy games
@Zia_Ali.
@Zia_Ali. 7 ай бұрын
What a game! RIP James - you will be missed 😥
@WastedNixem
@WastedNixem 7 ай бұрын
Despite visual fidelity being a major downgrade on ps2, I am genuinely impressed by the fact how much of the original game is left intact. Especially so, in comparison with the first game's port which just turned the game into a collection of loading screens.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 7 ай бұрын
The first game eliminated many redundant spaces from the PC version.
@aolson1111
@aolson1111 7 ай бұрын
I honestly think the PS2 version looks better in some ways. The darker lighting and more monochromatic colors fit the noir tone and make it look a lot closer to the comics in the cutscenes.
@codybishop7526
@codybishop7526 7 ай бұрын
THIS is what i love waking up to on a rainy saturday morning. Thank you, you amazing geniuses
@eponymous7910
@eponymous7910 7 ай бұрын
We really need a df retro devoted to the 6th gen consoles and their wildly varying architectures. I find it so fascinating hearing about techniques devs used to overcome certain deficiencies
@ianchinsor9248
@ianchinsor9248 7 ай бұрын
Ah what a voice, glad we got a great performance one last time in Alan Wake 2
@earthmother4599
@earthmother4599 7 ай бұрын
first, RIP James McCaffrey; amazing actor and a VA with a strikingly distinct and memorable voice. I lost it at the double doors "I'mma big boi" Great content as usual. The Max Payne series has been in my all time faves bucket since experiencing MP1 on the OG Xbox. Edit: this has some of my favorite commentary, lol.
@feedingfrenzy123
@feedingfrenzy123 7 ай бұрын
I played these first two games on the PS2 as a kid so seeing the PC version now for the first time has blown me away. It's a warm feeling seeing you two play this title again. In terms of details, something as small and silly as turning on a tap just makes the world feel real and not just a collection of 3d models. The physics as well, just what a joy to see in action and something I miss in newer games (see GTA IV compared to GTA V).
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 7 ай бұрын
Heck yes, these are one of my favorite DF vid series. Alex n John getting down w/ the hardware and games of my youth.
@bryanaustin8362
@bryanaustin8362 7 ай бұрын
Classic. This was my jam back in the day. RIP James. We all owe it to him by replaying Max PAyne 3 .
@blazingluke
@blazingluke 7 ай бұрын
Just played this for the first time in December on PC! What a treat! Interesting comparison.
@dlang6487
@dlang6487 7 ай бұрын
@21:19 "Oh my Gosh, that poor woman! Those textures!" 😂
@kupokinzyt
@kupokinzyt 7 ай бұрын
Please do a DF Retro on DOOM 3 for OG Xbox. It's probably the most technically stunning port ever released and deserves its own video.
@NyeDaniel
@NyeDaniel 7 ай бұрын
they did
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 7 ай бұрын
Speaking of late-PS2 era third-person shooters, The Punisher (2005) would make an interesting episode.
@snarkmarc
@snarkmarc 7 ай бұрын
I didn't have the language for it as a kid, but Max Payne 2 on PS2 was when I first took notice of just how much unstable frame rates could impact gameplay. Diving into destructible props never got old.
@steveafanador6441
@steveafanador6441 7 ай бұрын
This game looked awesome on the pc back in the day.
@nevarran
@nevarran 7 ай бұрын
Oh, the memories! Pour one for James McCaffrey. He will live forever as Max Payne.
@RolfWrenWalsh
@RolfWrenWalsh 7 ай бұрын
Finally!!! THIS is exactly what I have been wanting ever since the very first episode of the "Console vs PC Time Capsule" series. Thank you so much guys!!! The PS2 version I first played back in mid 2004 and I thought it was pretty bad. Played through it again on Xbox a in 2005, and finally once again on PC in 2011. I decided to play it again on PS2 back in 2018, and it's actually not THAT bad of a port considering the hardware limitations. In fact, the PS2 port has actually become my preferred version to play due to the sheer fact the PS2 was able to pull it off as well as it did.
@pakee2352
@pakee2352 7 ай бұрын
Damn, RIP James. So many iconic voices: Max Payne, Tom Zane, Director Trench, Alex Casey...
@botonddeak
@botonddeak 7 ай бұрын
When i hear James McCaffrey, i always get goosebumps. Iconict voice for sure, but for me, as a kid always be Max Payne.. Rest in peace.
@Robert-hb9mo
@Robert-hb9mo 7 ай бұрын
Max Payne 2 is one of my favourite game of all time. I had so much fun watching you guys play it. Definitely do xbox version too.
@ludvig2733
@ludvig2733 7 ай бұрын
I just started Playing the Old Max payne’s for the first time, and now you make This video. What a coincidence
@HitPointX
@HitPointX 7 ай бұрын
These retro revisits are fucking awesome! Thanks Alex & John for these. Looking forward to more of this type of content :D
@gmanuk1986
@gmanuk1986 7 ай бұрын
I cannot wait to watch this, I love DF retro so much and the effort that goes into these videos is much appreciated
@CrispyChicken44
@CrispyChicken44 7 ай бұрын
Ayy! The Radeon 9800 Pro is the same card we had growing up! xD I just commented on PC Master Race's Instagram video that it was my first gpu as well. So interesting with the timing xD Wonderful video, gents! :3
@trostfoxy
@trostfoxy 7 ай бұрын
I have only played max payne 3, but his voice was so iconic, rest in peace :(
@nogarder
@nogarder 7 ай бұрын
i'm not sure how exactly max payne 2 did its shadows, but i remember how some other old games did: they make stand-alone flat models, (or just use flattened character models) attached to the characters' feet, meshed by a point of reference to change direction/shape, (to match the light source) shaded with different degree of 'black', (to create the 'fade out' effect) then rendered with transparent pass, (to blend with background) this method could be really fast, (like having a lot of shadows all responding to different light sources, which shadow map can't easily do) and could look quite good by simply tweaking colors of different part, (coloring 'feet part' darker and 'head part' lighter to do 'fade out') and could also do penumbra effect easily (sorta like cartoon-shading) down-side of this method is, the shadows don't really project onto anything, (they are actually models floating very slightly above ground), so they could look wrong on complex environment, (or just not-flat ground, like on stairs) or slide under some geometry and become invisible, or overlap each other then create a 'darker shadow'. also the 'light sources' can't get lower than the characters' head level, or the shadows would just break. (as the 'stretching range' becomes infinite)
@Sevent77
@Sevent77 7 ай бұрын
At the time I thought the ragdoll and items physics were revolutionary.
@CakeMelons
@CakeMelons 7 ай бұрын
Oh boi, this gem is blast from the past indeed. I loved this game. I do hope Remedy does right by it in their upcoming remake.
@camilocdv
@camilocdv 7 ай бұрын
This saga was my childhood and the game that got me hooked and made me want to learn english, mad respect for the team and brand❤
@camilocdv
@camilocdv 7 ай бұрын
Also I remember I olayed it on Compaq presario down here in Chile, my first pc, too.
@knightsolaire3404
@knightsolaire3404 7 ай бұрын
Now we need a Max Payne 3 time capsule ✨ that game looks incredible still. Also Rip to the greatest voice actor of all time
@methical__
@methical__ 7 ай бұрын
Incredible what they achieved with renderware engine on the console. Truly an engine that powered a whole generation
@drasticmart
@drasticmart 7 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for the remake! Rip James! Your voice will forever be be remembered
@shimec
@shimec 7 ай бұрын
Can't wait for remakes. i hope Remedy makes them with same atmosphere!
@zaq_d
@zaq_d 7 ай бұрын
I’ll also add. This game is the first game I played with physics, and it was on the ps2. Totally cool
@thegreatfulgamer5749
@thegreatfulgamer5749 7 ай бұрын
I recently downloaded this and am literally playing along with you guys..great physics, gameplay and story
@omarcomming722
@omarcomming722 7 ай бұрын
I desperately miss PC ports like this man. Completely transformed visuals and a massive difference that you don't need pixel peeping to see, 90% of PC ports today amount to literally nothing except for (maybe) improved RT, DLSS, and unlocked resolution/framerate.
@granixo
@granixo 7 ай бұрын
The thing is that this isn't a port. Max Payne was MADE for PC.
@DaveMate93
@DaveMate93 7 ай бұрын
Ah, Max Payne 2. The central game of my childhood. This game will always be one of my favorites.
@KNINESVIDS
@KNINESVIDS 7 ай бұрын
That 1st die and load... But then that 2nd one omg 😂😢😂😢❤ i love Alex just laughing it off
@mattlandry
@mattlandry 7 ай бұрын
I remember the PS2 version being so rough. I had a low-med spec PC for the time and it ran like a dream though!
@CrashMaul
@CrashMaul 7 ай бұрын
26:52 I always found it hilarious how one of the cops is clearly shooting the wall in front of him in that cutscene 😂 The fact that they inadvertently(?) fixed it on PS2 by removing said cop is pretty funny too.
@jameshenderson4089
@jameshenderson4089 7 ай бұрын
I ordered a copy of the Xbox port complete for $8 bucks while watching. Max payne is one series I never played. Can’t wait to try it out.
@frederikgoogel5611
@frederikgoogel5611 7 ай бұрын
Just wanted to add that his jacket is real geometry on his back, not a bump map.
@Lauren_C
@Lauren_C 7 ай бұрын
Despite the low clock speed, the Vector Units in the PS2 are pretty potent (certainly not enough to get close to a 3 GHz P4, but you can have physics). I imagine the physics are probably leaning greatly on a VU. The VUs are also used to handle Transform and Lighting, so having them pull double duty explains why the devs opted not to use reflections.
@will891410
@will891410 7 ай бұрын
King Kong on PS2 have one of the most fine and beautiful textures that i have seen on it, very impressive for the time.
@ISetYourFaceOnFire
@ISetYourFaceOnFire 7 ай бұрын
Max Payne 2 is top 3 greatest TPS of all time no contest.
@kieranda3718
@kieranda3718 6 ай бұрын
Great video and a nice trip back in time, such an incredible era of games. I had a similar setup to your retro PC, Alex, but with a 9600 XT (which I actually bought for Max Payne 2!) and I remember being absolutely blown away with the visuals in this game. The card came with a code for Half-Life 2, which didn't come out for nearly a year after I got the 9600. By that time I'd switched over to an Athlon 64 3500+, and stayed on an AMD/team Red combo until a series of absolutely craptacular, bugged-out drivers (I think I had a Radeon HD 2600 by that point... got it for Oblivion!) caused so many issues across a bunch of games that I gave up in disgust, and grabbed an 8800 GT. Now THAT was one hell of a card.
@theterrifier2670
@theterrifier2670 7 ай бұрын
4:45 is one of my favourite moments in gaming. I remember quick loading this moment over and over and seeing all the different ways I could get him to fly into the shelf.
@ElTequilla
@ElTequilla 7 ай бұрын
There a guy on a lift in chapter 7 that’s scripted to die by ANY projectile that touches him. All weapons must be tested on that encounter 😅
@asakjackson
@asakjackson 7 ай бұрын
This was a wonderful time capsule. Please, make a go with the xbox version to compare. This was such a timeless classic and is worth going into more detail. Keep up the good work you 2!!!
@ryan_lew9796
@ryan_lew9796 7 ай бұрын
I never played max Payne because it released years before I was born. I first heard James's voice in Alan Wake 2 and it's sad to see him pass. R.I.P James McCaffrey
@EHeroClayman
@EHeroClayman 7 ай бұрын
Max Payne 2 was the first PC game I got. I bought a controller but that didn't work so I played the entire game on a TouchPad. My hands still hurt thinking about that 20 years later. I replayed it years later on my desktop and outside of one or two drops, it still ran well. RIP to James. I loved his work and I'm curious to see how Remedy is going to handle the remake now in terms of voice work.
@jb2einziger
@jb2einziger 7 ай бұрын
Oh no I didn’t know that James Mccaffrey passed away !?! That’s so sad to hear, Max Payne 1 & 2 are some of my All time a favourite childhood games, it’s the series that made me realise how cinematic and gritty Videogames could be ! RIP to a true legend
@MarioTainaka
@MarioTainaka 7 ай бұрын
I owned the Xbox and PC version back in the day. The Xbox version is basically the PC version at about medium settings. There are actually 3 levels later on that were split in the console versions.
@mateusbarao1761
@mateusbarao1761 7 ай бұрын
Still the best third person shooter ever made. RIP James.
@rhymingbecktionary
@rhymingbecktionary 7 ай бұрын
Recently replayed Max Payne and this with the recent release of Alan Wake 2 and passing of James McCaffrey (RIP). Such an underrated game and such an iconic voice. It's a shame the rights were sold to Take-Two, I'm also replaying Max Payne 3 and Rockstar had no idea what made Max Payne so interesting and unique.
@erminioottone1344
@erminioottone1344 7 ай бұрын
Well Max Payne 1 when it came out was a huge hit, won tons of Game of the Year awards and became a massive phenomenon, basically created the story driven 3rd action games so popular nowadays. There is also a (horrible) Max Payne movie adaptation with Mark Wahlberg that was also quite successful at box office. Of course nowadays it isn't a popular name in gaming discussion, but it came out more than 20 years ago and the last game in the series is from 2012. I would say that Max Payne 2 is an underrated masterpiece, expecially if you loved Alan Wake 2. Totally agree with you on Max Payne 3.
@Trojance
@Trojance 7 ай бұрын
Rest in peace, thank you for being max.
@Nucleosynthese
@Nucleosynthese 7 ай бұрын
Another great video guys! Given the very weak specs of the PS2 I think the developer did a decent job on Max Payne 2. Please do more of these, they are so much fun to watch!
@joshanton2259
@joshanton2259 7 ай бұрын
I bought an original Xbox off a high school friend just to play this game back in the day, that and halo of course. Thanks for the nostalgia DF.
@TheOnlyTwitchR6
@TheOnlyTwitchR6 7 ай бұрын
MP2 was an immediate classic. I have always been a fan of max payne, The Fall of Max Payne was Definitely the Highest point in the series. It was seriously GORGEOUS when it came out, and ran flawlessly. I upgraded my pc right before this game launched to have a perfect experience. I think i used a 9800 Pro if im remembering correctly.
@mannduro
@mannduro 7 ай бұрын
Remember auto saving is a huge process killer. It takes a lot of resource's from the pour CPU to save while playing. Obviously they could have give an option to save every here and then . Specially at the start of a level
@FooMaster15
@FooMaster15 7 ай бұрын
James McCaffrey will sorely be missed. The remake won't be the same without him.
@BlakeRosss
@BlakeRosss 7 ай бұрын
John asked if it works well on the Steam Deck. I played through both Max Payne 1 and 2 on mine and it ran perfectly. I even set up some nice controls with a weapon wheel on the left touchpad and gyro aiming when you touch the right touchpad/joystick. Works with the default key bindings.
@alexanderson4497
@alexanderson4497 7 ай бұрын
RIP Director Trench, may the Oldest House in the ever after be everything you hoped it would be.
@SacilvioSantos
@SacilvioSantos 7 ай бұрын
I’m playing it on Steam now, what a coincidence lol. I still have my physical copy for PC, it’s a well done package.
@donhonk
@donhonk 7 ай бұрын
That shot at 10:20 really highlights just how far apart these are. Sheesh!
@Moshugaani
@Moshugaani 7 ай бұрын
Sad to hear of James McCaffrey passing away. May he rest in peace. 🙏🏻 I wonder who will voice Max Payne in the coming remakes? Mr McCaffrey did such an iconic role as Max, that it's hard to imagine anyone else in the role.
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